Programs that used to be good but are now cancer

>the installer tries to install Google Chrome
>by default it installs a data mining and monitoring service

Basically it's a "crap cleaner" that actually installs crap itself.

Winner

I'd say Windows itself. As for Acronis, in my experience True Image was shit even before the metro facelift. I used to use TIH 2011 and it was buggy as shit. It's like they put more effort into designing trendy interfaces than fixing years-old bugs (including the much advertised but never working continuous backup mode).

Azureus

> try out this product
> Hurr let me run in background 4u hurr you should clean now
> let me attack myself to your trash can
Just do your job when called and stop hanging around like a homeless guy ccleaner

Attach*

>Microsoft Windows
>Microsoft Office
>Adobe Creative Suite
>GeForce Experience
These had their problems even in the past but their modern day versions really take the cake. Bloated data mining, software as a service pieces of shit.

>Daemon Tools
Bundling malware.

>µTorrent
Became nothing more than adware.

>CCleaner
It was kind of placebo to begin with but as said it's now crap itself.

>Skype
Ever since Microsoft got their hands on it, adware too.

Pic related

I hadn't updated it for months and when I recently went to update, it came up with this new privacy policy talking about how much data they collect. Needless to say I didn't install it. When did they start doing that shit?

what other program should we use then?

The old ccleaner

What's wrong with Clover?

Was about to buy Acronis. Why is it cancer now?

Quickpic.

ACRH linux

It youse to be frea but now usses systemd

>Programs that used to be good but are now cancer.

The standalone version of Acronis is still good.
The Windows version has been cancer for ages.

Fucking this.
Thankfully, you can still use an older version.

There was never any reason not to use the portable version of ccleaner, which doesn't install additional crap.

...

That was never good to begin with

What are you talking about? 7zip is free, open source and opens juste about every archive.

Just disable monitoring idiot.

New version looks like cancer.

Every single one

what's the newest version. I have v1.2.11 installed and have no problems

Get a new keyboard layout mate.

Firefox

>Windows XP
>2016

If you looked at the OP image and are still asking yourself this you need to apply a gun directly to your forehead and then uninstall yourself from this imageboard

Extremely comfy and POS updates until 2019.

KDE, GNOME

>shitty memes
>any year

cd, ls, cp, man, rm
these are all garbage nowadays

You can thank GANOO guys later

Use the BSD versions

Daemon Tools

I only use it now for installing Japanese porn games

1. install WinCdEmu
2. install gentoo
3. uninstall yourself from Cred Forums

7zip > WinRAR

>BU MUH MUH DESIGN
>B-BUT FLAT IS SHIT
>MUH TRENDS

gtfo you consumer tier bullshit the program itself works just fine just because you can't bear the sight of sharp edges that are so new and for you because your dragon dildo has none of it, doesnt mean its cancer

>cancer the post

HoneyView

Was designed for reading manga files (.cbz?) but can open most image formats. Its last good version was HoneyView3 but was then bought by Bandisoft and turned into a REALLY shitty looking shitty performing bland image viewer. I actually bothered to save the HoneyView3 installer on my google drive and external HD because I like it so much more than anything else I've used.

I was proving that user I was quoting wrong.
In hindsight, it was just a shitpost

1/10 for making me reply
here is your
>(You)

>actually defending an unusable UI
If they made their font a few orders of magnitude smaller and actually labelled their fucking buttons instead of using stupid images I could maybe tell what they're supposed to do

Also, that screenshot's underlying functionality seems to terrible by design. Who the fuck wants to micromanage backups? They should be automatic and transparent.

I also have 1.2.11 installed. Apparently, google doesn't like Cred Forums, so they removed it from the play store.
It's still being actively developed, but according to the other user, the new versions are shit
1.2.11 masterrace

Like you.

Now now

Same here. If anyone else wants it the old website still exists somewhat.

honeyview.org/download/

It has pretty much everything I need, the only missing feature is an option to blacklist trap/fur/loli threads

Windows OS

You can just filter them, but it will also filter comments.

New version is great. The only bad thing is you have to compile it yourself in Android studio.

Firefox.

>tfw creator put my custom skins on the official webpage

With windows store apps it is basically 100% this. Sucks Microsoft are turning windows into android rather than make windows better.

nero

Master Race reporting in.

look mom, i posted it again

I just downloaded the apk from their github page, all releases are available from there and fdroid

Is there any actual good free backup software for Windows any more? EaseUS is sometimes acceptable but has all of their advert shit in it and has barely any features.

What you're really saying is that you prefer to click 600 jewzillion infinity times.

The one built in in Windows?

If you need to make snapshots of your OS, you can just go into recovery mode and use DISM\wimlib-imagex (I prefer the latter)
As for just documents and general files, use that file history thing that's in the system and security category in your control panel.

Skype

I thought f-droid stopped updating it since it still has the same version number.

It's more that Clover has not updated in forever.

Once upon a time it was THE browser for older hardware. Now it's more bloated than Chrome.

It used to be the biggest name in torrent clients. Then they stuck a btc miner in it.

And unfortunately not replaceable since NoScript is firefox only.

Tor has NoScript.

uMatrix is apparently really good and is on Chrome.

ayyyyyyyyy

Winrar KEK

Probably gonna try it out and make a switch to the botnet browser if it turns out to be good.
In that case the only use i'll have of Mozillashit in the future is on the phone, since Google jewry there doesn't allow extensions i.e. adblockers.

Anybody who stopped using uTorrent after 1.6 was a sucker. Anyway, now there are tons of better alternatives, and you can choose one as lightweight or bloated as you want.

It still is. Just use an older version because any sane person would know that the latest version of anything won't run well on old hardware.

>Google jewry there doesn't allow extensions i.e. adblockers
Just use hosts. System-level adblocking completely independent of any browser or program.

Sad! It's still miles ahead of Linux and Windows though

ScriptSafe seems to work fairly well.

andryou.com/scriptsafe/

chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/scriptsafe/oiigbmnaadbkfbmpbfijlflahbdbdgdf

Greatest fall from grace in the history of software.
Fortunately the last good version (from 1999 or so) still runs flawlessly on modern systems.

> use only free software
> it's actually being developed
> it gets better as time goes on
> if it changes in ways I don't like, I can just run an old version
> or fork it and change the things I dislike

What does Cred Forums nowadays use to mount images?

OS X's built in image mounting software

Right click -> mount

On windows? Some ancient version of daemon tools lite.

WinCDEmu

People still do that?

windows 8.1 doesn't have this problem

My favorite version of acronis

Except it has shit graphics card drivers and a even shittier opengl implementation than open sores mesa Linux.

>proving the rule wrong by mentioning the very exception of it
this proves the rule right you dummy

then why is it still used a lot in video and sometimes 3d production?

hdiutil

>thinks all free projects are actively maintained
Jesus Christ are Cred Forums freetards the dumbest fuckers on the planet.

Because people have it in their heads that Macs are superior for any art related work. It's a brand marketing thing. Also a ton of people prefer Final Cut Pro over Premier.

If it isn't, it's either perfect, a better alternative exists, or you maintain it yourself.

PowerISO on Windows. Never needed it on Linux.

Just leave.

I have no idea. Any metric of performance on the same hardware is the worst on OS X.

Most people are using Adobe cloudshit on their Windows machines anyway since Apple killed it's pro market with the new FCP.

Virtual clonedrive

7z x filename.iso C:\temp && subst E: C:\temp

powerISO

I used to use the built in windows tool but one time it couldn't open some obscure iso-like format so i just use powerISO

>i'm too retarded to uncheck boxes on an installer

>I condone user-hostile behaviors.

It's because it used to be true.

>proving the rule wrong, proves it right
You gotta explain this in more detail

Yeah, like 20 years ago.

>extracting a thing that's supposed to be mounted
>writing data 2 times if the image is installer
to be fair i don't understand the hate on new FCP, it's not that bad, especially with later updates

10

I can count the number of times I had to access something on an ISO this year on a single hand. Not worth installing a driver for it. Extracting a gigabyte or two only takes a minute at most anyways.

windows can mount isos without any tools for like five years now

ImDisk Toolkit

>open command line
>type 'mount...'

Windows 7 can't.

# losetup /dev/loopn image.iso
# mount /dev/loopn /media/username/whatever

Yes it can. I think it was the first to do so, actually

portablewincdemu

Gee, look a settings button. Maybe you can switch back to the old/classic interface. Ever think of that, fucktard?

>using outdated software

Windows' builtin for iso's
Virtual Clonedrive for everything else image

I think he's talking about Windows in general.

Nope, W8 was the first

>not using the best version of windows to date

neowin.net/news/microsoft-releases-tool-to-mount-isos-for-windows-xp-vista-and-7

I'm pretty sure it wasn't. They introduced that in 8.

"Outdated" is not the same as "unsupported", or automatically inferior. If anything, you could argue that it's stabler because it's been on the market for a longer period, therefore it's tried and tested.

There's a limit to that though.
Else you could argue that w3.1 is best, since it's been out for 22 years.
While W7 isn't outdated, the moment MS stops supporting it, it should be considered as such

I'm still using 2012
Why fuck should I need to update software that fucking works

Why do you people even need this?
>Wow my computer is so fast after CCleaner deleted my download history.
Said noone ever.

>While W7 isn't outdated
Any OS that doesn't support ISO mounting in 2016 is outdated.

I would argue XP is better in many ways than any of the releases following it. The only two reasons I wouldn't use it are the lack of desktop compositing and compatibility with recent hardware/software. How good something is objectively, how recent it is, and how fit it is for contemporary usage are all completely separate things.

Windows 8 isn't automatically better than 7 in every possible way just because it's newer. Same with 10. I'll begrudgingly use them once most devs (not MS) stop supporting 7 and I have to, not because I WANT to or because they're better. 10 has a few minor improvements I don't really care about, all the existing flaws of 7, and a whole heap of new flaws introduced by the new business model and the whole "app" bullshit. It's inferior as a product, even if common sense might lead you to believe it's newer and therefore better.

you mean Vista?

Oh you did not just.

Nope. Floens has actually implemented some things like that search button. You just need to compile it yourself and keep checking the github in case he adds stuff.

>mobile app design paradigms

get the fuck off of my desktop with that garbage

Disagreed. Because XP doesn't have compatability with recent hardware it already makes it worse than newer releases.
Even Vista has 64bit support (I know XP has too, but it had it's issues AFAIK)

Win 8 brought changes the masses weren't ready for yet. Mainly the start menu changes and the feeling W8 was catered to tablet users.

I've been using 10 for maybe 8 months now. Wouldn't want to turn back to W7 simply because it works better for me. But that's a personal opinion.
The real point is when MS stops supporting 7, you need to get accustomed to 10, while the rest of the world already knows everything.
And while newer doesn't mean better necessarily, technology never sits still. Else we would still be using floppydisks. Clamping on to dated software isn't good either.

Objectively Vista is better than 7.

"Worse" is a weird thing to define. Windows 10 is more bloated, resource hungry, anti-consumer and buggy than any of the previous few releases, excluding maybe Vista. Whenever people argue for using it, it's usually with statements like "it's not worse than the thing I was using previously also some people on the internet said it has some new things that are possibly good". The control panel is worse, the start menu is worse (and crashes constantly/outright stops working with the app runtime), the direction it's heading in is worse, and on top of that it's not really better in any meaningful way.

It boots slightly faster because it uses hibernation instead of cold booting. Which comes at the price of several of the boot options no longer working, chkdsk no longer displaying its output because the bootloader is dumbed down, and a whole bunch of minor shit nobody ever bothers to mention that tend to add up. The memory management is slightly better in arcane ways that aren't even properly documented, in turn it comes with twice as many services which you can't disable without a secondary OS and manually deleting files. It has improved multi-window multi-monitor features which you could already get with third party tools, at the cost of no customization, window transparency, none of your previous themes working, and the default one looking like ass.

Also, MS not supporting something doesn't mean jack shit. Security updates and obscure bugfixes are largely pointless, which is all their "support" entails. An actual reason to change your OS would be something like Chrome or Photoshop literally refusing to run on XP because of API/technology changes and the devs not bothering, or your motherboard/GPU not supporting it. Your existing setup won't magically stop working the moment Microsoft announces that they'll stop releasing patches. It will stop 5-10 years down the line when most pieces of software and the new hardware you use no longer work with it.

Also
>technology never sits still. Else we would still be using floppydisks.
You are the reason text editors written in Javascript exist.

TIL I'm running an outdated version of Clover.

>Just use an older version because any sane person would know that the latest version of anything won't run well on old hardware.
What about security updates?

mutorrent - I wish a billionaire would buy the source and set it free

It's old meme rhetoric. If there are exceptions it proves that the rule exists or some shit like that. Really useless crap.

iso/cue/bin - wincdemu
raw images and everything else - imdisk

It's a compromise, Either you upgrade to new hardware or get stuck with old outdated software.

Not sure if this a compliment or not.

I haven't looked into W10 that deeply. Neither have I seen anything happen what you just explained. Although I do agree with the control panel in previous versions being way better.

Let's agree to disagree.

This same conversation applies to web browsers, programming languages, systemd, etc. Someone makes something new and runs a PR campaign to fill their wallet or gain mindshare. All the naive users switch over. Then the developers have to decide between maintaining a project very few people use for no money or recognition or switching to develop the newest thing. Once the original project is dead, the hardcore users have to switch over and in a few years the cycle repeats. The new thing can either be a brand new program or a series of updates.

Acronis is fine. You have options besides "entire pc"

We can agree on , I suppose.

Photoshop and all the fucking software that have social media integrated

Firefox

They need to optimize for speed/efficiency right now. Badly.

Yep

What kind of ancient OS are you using that you need such tools?

they'll get on that as soon they figure out how to fix the memory leaks from 90 versions ago.

What's wrong with Photoshop?

i used to use magiciso until i discovered it throws a hissy fit and breaks if you want to mount something with gook runes in the file path.

>Office
It's objectively better in every way besides privacy now compared to 2007 or whatever you've chosen to be "the last good office". And before you say it, I mostly use FOSS on a Linux machine but I can tell when software is objectively superior to what I use or have used in the past.

The newer versions are rented (something like $69.99.99 a month) instead of a onetime deal. Adobe's way of sucking more money from your wallet. CS6 master race.

But they already did, user-kun.
aosabook.org/en/posa/memshrink.html

I just pirated it. There is literally no reason to buy phtotoshop except if you use it professionally.

i have imgburn a while ago. i also used unetbootin recently

I use photoshop CS2. it came out in 2005. it works well for me and it installs on win 7. Office, i use 2007 pro. Yes it is old but so what, long as it works. I still use dvd shrink,dvd decrypter, and Utorrent ver 2.21 (2011) All these programs work fine so no need to go and screw up something that works.

I used to use Macrium Reflect v4 but I finally upgraded to V6 edition due to GPT drive support. V6 works just fine for backups of large data collections.

i hope some smart boy takes kipplers code and makes something great, i really hope

me again, really only programs I keep current are my web browser/flash plugins/java, and AntiVirus software. Windows updates, nah, just SP1 and a handful of core hot fixes for specific things.

>manga files (.cbz?)

cbz files are literally just renamed rar files.

Would switch. Old PS version don't even use dual cores and shit. It's terrible.

>file history thing
It was removed in Win8

WinCDEmu or built in Win8 thing

irfanviewer

You sure about that? Because it's here in Windows 10. Hidden away behind many clicks because Microsoft wants you to use OneDrive and their Microsoft Account synching bullshit instead.

Do yourself a favor and at least try out Pale Moon.

You really don't have anything to lose.

It's basically old Firefox with no phoning home and much better default security settings.

2003 was the last good Office, friend.
I actually switched to 2016 recently though since my uni was giving me crap.

ZoneAlarm. Literal necessity during the winxp, 2k years or you would literally be hacked by turning your computer on. Now irrelevant even on Windows boxes.

Virtual Clonedrive is literally the only answer everything else is shit

hello sanneh

if it's not compatible with the library of extensions that Firefox had access to it's just another ultra lite browser, there's a million of them and there all useless, so light they forgot to put any useful features in them.

Does it matter? People have been using the old versions predominately for years, a lot of trackers won't even support newest version so your pretty much forced to stick to old versions.

how do you know to old is to old when it comes to running software just because it isn't bloated? if your just looking to run stuff ideally you could get in the mindset going for old stuff instead of up to date, everything would go bizarro.

I just use Google docs now. I don't need all the advance features Microsoft office offers so it's perfect.

Also I like Google doc's interface better. I never understood why some older people complained about office adapting the ribbon ui but after using google docs for a while, I now see why.

hey

I wish it was easier to look up the best version of a piece of software that's been around for a while instead of everything just automatically referring you to latest build

>Trusting pirated photoshops

They almost always have malware

Got any proof of that? I'd like to see the malware in my photoshop download from Adobe itself activated with my keygen in a VM.

What's the best free cloud storage site?
I want to store a ton of music, movies and games since I'm moving

When someone pushes the botnet meme this much you just know he has CP on his drive.

Fuck off, NSA

minesweeper

Anyone? I almost got quads

given adobe's security track record I wouldn't be surprised if you could do RCE by passing a specially constructed key to the validation algorithm

speaking of, solitaire is also such a shitshow nowadays

In the original context "prove" meant test, like a mathematical proof or the term proving ground.

So the saying really means: It's the exception which tests/challenges the rule.

Basically just corrupting an old saying by applying the modern usage of the word 'prove'.

Windows Defrag.
Used to show your data locations as whole chunks relative to their sizes, then they just showed you a bunch of colored blocks.

Now it tells you nothing. Black box.

i'm still on 5.0 myself. the new ones look like bloated ass and they are trying to get me to upgrade.

is version 2 still supported definition updates wise? that was the best