Let's say NSA data collection is starting again. You, and only you know. Not using phone is not an option...

Why do people on Cred Forums just keep blindly adding shit to the list of things that are botnets, not providing an atom of evidence and then it becomes fact?

This is exactly how paranoia works.

>they're fucking iphones you nig
Um what
>all the old android blackphones are manufacturer backdoored by samsung as well
Source?

you're both dumb as shit, apple stated they got a backdoor on iphones and all samsungs allow manufacturer remote code execution at processor level as stated by the Android Replicant devs who found it on several models

Desolder your microphones and cameras, use a wired headset when you need to make calls, don't use bluetooth, those are backdoored as hell too.

Remove battery and place in faraday cage when not in use. They can track your location even when the phone is off.

>you're both dumb as shit
At no point did I say I don't believe you. I simply asked for a source for your claims.

>apple stated they got a backdoor on iphones
Didn't they just state the exact opposite in their fight with the FBI? Source please

>all samsungs allow manufacturer remote code execution at processor level as stated by the Android Replicant devs who found it on several models
Getting there... Source?

Last but not least, I cannot find anything online to suggest that either Samsung or Apple have terribly much to do with the Blackphone, so a source for that too please.

>Let's say NSA data collection is starting again. You, and only you know. Not using phone is not an option, how do you NSA-proof your phone /gee/?
use an iphone.

bounty for an iphone 10 exploit is now at $1.5 million. that means that unless you're some terrorist or a high-value target, there's no fucking chance that they'll deploy it against some nobody or some crook or some drugdealer.

>how do you NSA-proof your phone

You don't.

You NSA-proof your use habits. Use your phone & other tech in ways that prove you are a normie. For any of your non-normie activites, you find methods that don't use tech directly traceable to you.

For the immediate future, you would keep & use burners and use wifi that you've found access to using burner laptops/devices. Avoid having identifiable images of yourself being captured that would put you in proximity of the locations any such devices are used. Develop habits that are as random as possible for the moments when you do require such devices. Never carry or be in proximity to any devices that are tied to you & your normie activities.

In the longer term, you're fukt. In ten years so much of the most useful space to be active in will be under surveillance that your available spots to conduct non-normie activities will draw attention to yourself just by being in & near them. And they will be fewer, by far. Try to imagine using an unsecured wifi spot, or hacking into a secured one come 2025, let alone 2030.

Hell, by 2030 if it is determined that you are walking around somewhere without a trackable cell phone device on your person, it will be considered legitimate suspicious activity for law enforcement to detain you.

>Citizen, our scanners indicate that you are not carrying your personal communications device.
> This is an official Intervention.
> Lay face-down on the ground and place both your hands on the small of your back.

>>
This is a very tangible visible form of mental disease.

I am so sick of this fucking board.

If you're worried about data snooping send no sensitive information over cellular networks.
If you're worried about tracking then leave the phone in your house.
Put tape over the cameras.
Worst the NSA can do is activate the mic covertly and listen in on your private life, but if you keep it in a container they won't be able to hear anything from it.

A phone is for phone calls. If you want a pocket computer for browsing the web then you're an internet addict, and that problem is easily solved. You don't need a web connection everywhere. Taking a smart phone apart and disconnecting the external antennas would give you all the processing power with none networking vulnerabilities, making essentially a modern PDA.

Better than trying to create the ultimate defense is to create a target the enemy gains nothing from attacking.
Cointel 101.

You don't fall for jewish schemes and buy things you don't need, duh.

Cred Forums Pass user since October 2016.

>Let's say NSA data collection is starting again.

Do you think it ever stopped?

Screencap it and re-read it in 2025.

You'll wish life was that easy in 10 years.

I already get people telling me I'm a mental case when I go somewhere for a few hours without carrying my phone with me. Seriously, I spent an afternoon fishing and left my phone in the car for about six hours, just wanted an afternoon with me, the Sun and some fish & quiet.

Get back to my phone and missed calls from girlfriend and mother ... call them back and they're freaking out, ready to call 911 because I hadn't returned their calls within 2 hours. Not joking, mother says she's worried I might have been abducted or a suicide.

I'm about done with the current GF anyways. She's obsessive about being in contact every 15 minutes to an hour or so.

Can't do anything about mom; she's on facepage 18 hours a day currently and freaks every morning when she gets up that shit was happening while she was asleep.

And they tell me I'm the one who needs to see a psychiatrist.

10 years, user. Law enforcement will have automated tools in place to map where you are all day. Mark my words, people will get pulled over for traffic stops and it will be Reasonable Cause for Search and Detention if they don't have their phones on them.

Screencap this. You'll cry when you re-read it in 10 years.

I'm not the guy you're replying to, nor do I endorse anything he said, but I can provide a source for the Samsung "backdoor" he's talking about:
fsf.org/blogs/community/replicant-developers-find-and-close-samsung-galaxy-backdoor
Since this article is by a free software advocate, I'd take it with a grain of salt; I believe there is an email interview with a "security expert" on arstechnica (so I suppose you should also take that with a grain of salt) which attempts to explain and dispel the concerns raised by replicant devs.

Maybe in big cities where's there's lots of niggers.

I think you're actually onto something. In the US a number of pretty innocuous things are considered cause for suspicion. If you have *any* amount of cash over $100 on your person the police can use it as justification to search your vehicle and even get a warrant to search your house. Thank the war on drugs for that one.
Carrying cash is now suspicious if its convenient for the state.
Being nervous when talking to a cop is also considered suspicious. If you're visibly uneasy over the prospect of getting a traffic ticket, or having your day ruined by an aggressive cop with a chip on their shoulder, then you're a suspicious person.

With the increasing prevalence of electronic touch and go payments cash is being used less and less. It was already on the decline with credit and debt cards.
Its not hard to imagine phones being used as a form of ID. If physical cards are phased out then you'll be obliged to carry one at all times.
An electronic tracking device that your entire life revolves around. It'd be really easy to see them becoming required by law in just a decade.

At first they'll probably bill it as helping the children, and every citizen will get issued a state subsized basic device.
>Every child deserves access to education
>computers are the best way to learn
>plus its convenient
>it makes live easier
Then everyone has one, everyone is used to having them, no one will question when it becomes law to always have them on your person.
Governments love taking power. They don't restore liberty once its been removed. The path is always to expand and infringe upon rights.

Thank you.

>If you have *any* amount of cash over $100 on your person the police can use it as justification to search your vehicle and even get a warrant to search your house.

God the US is fucked.

I'd get a Chinese phone. I doubt the Chinese want the NSA hacking into their phones and I don't care much if they track me.

I like how you're mixing together your shitty relationship with idiots with your paranoia about the big bad gubmint. That's a new special flavor of crazy I didn't see before.

>battery isn't removable
>"Secure" proprietary OS
>hardware with proprietary firmware
>advertised in The Girl in the Spider's Web
Really makes you think. I'm not even memeing lad, there is literally no chance it isn't backdoored.

t. Jack Lynch

Yea, but America is probably better off than whatever country you're from.

"Starting again?"

You're naive to think they've ever stopped. They've been continuously monitoring every American since before you were born.

On topic, you can not evade the NSA with the world's most powerful spying device in your pocket. The baseband firmware is a proprietary mystery blob which can't be touched by the OS and has complete control over your device.

>Let's say NSA data collection is starting again

It never stopped, Michael, but you already know that.

>new special flavor of crazy I didn't see before

Just discovered the Internet today, I see. Welcome, newfriend. It's a Really Big World outside your mommy's basement. You might want to have her hold your hand for the first few weeks until you learn a few things about Reality.

>starting again
did it stop at at point?

Who said that it ended? The surveillance state is still progressing at full force, with no regard to the constitution.

>3,000 government officials in 2025 monitoring the web activity of 400 million+ people, checking what porn they are watching and what they post on facebook. chill.

What did i just read?
Out of how many illegal activities do you think the NSA involves themselves in? i doubt 1 in 500,000 cyber crimes that are committed and arrested are because of the NSA. if u arent a terrorist, chill

>no noose
???

>How to NSA proof your phone.
Choose your weapon and you're good.

Ironic post right there

Congratulations! $0.07 has been deposited in your bank account!

NSA SHILL

Okay Google, what is a burner phone?

Its scouting knots, not executioner's knots.

Did you really buy a pass just so you can make this post? Dedication

still if you were standard being able to end it all would be a virtue

Its scouting knots, not executioner's knots.

>starting again
It never stopped.

Some time ago I say an article saying that the owner of McAfee buy a new dumb phone everyday to avoid spying. Is he doing good?

still if you were standard being able to end it all would be a virtue

I just don't tell the NSA it's starting again. Duh.

Because everything already is in the botnet. So there's no chance of being wrong if you accuse anything of being botnetted.

>targeted surveillance is defendable