>fucking around on my phone >accidentally open up G+ >never used it before in my life but I guess it's set up because I have a Google account >People You Might Want To Add ;) >shows old friends that I have never spoken to/searched for online, and haven't seen for over a year
How do they do it, Cred Forums? How is it that Google knows all there is about me? Even though I use fake names, fake addresses, and never shop online without a pre-paid card (and ship to a family post-box not under my name). Is there any hope or is privacy a fleeting dream of the past?
No social media ever accurately finds friends or has my real name or anything like that.
Are the people who claim they take good security measures and get found out just stupid?
Lucas Russell
nearly every site on the internet runs google scripts.
when you fill out a captcha or browse a page on Cred Forums for example it connects to google servers and they match the IP with the profile they've built on you from using youtube, google search, android or whatever.
Nolan Cooper
But like I said, the people they suggested were ones I've barely spoken to or even spoken about in well over a year, ones I've completely forgotten about. If Google filled out a profile of my online searches it'd sound like "Technology student who listens to lots of animu music and shitposts on Cred Forums", there should be nothing about my private life since I've never searched for family/friends online (No social media, if I have an account somewhere I've put no info on it) or even spoken about them, and yet they somehow have this all this information and know all these people they should have no way of getting fuck
Isaac Peterson
your friends have probably spoken about you when using an android phone or something.
they can also match your profile with the area you live, age of people in the area etc.
Lucas King
get an iphone 5s or se or
Xavier Russell
>using google on your phone >nut running Copperhead OS on a Nexus Device Fucking pathetic
Landon Powell
they also use cookies, browser fingerprinting and probably other methods to track users.
it's not just the IP address.
Nathaniel Cruz
>it's not just the IP address. especially in his case they used his phone number, other people's phonebooks and correlations between other people's phonebooks and friends on G+.
Logan Taylor
How much of my information does google get from my Android phone? Do they have my contacts? My messages? Conversations on the phone or through apps like LINE?
Carter Cooper
Do you have phone numbers of those friends? Have you emailed your friends or have them as contacts on some email account? Do you have some social media with an old school, hobbies or work attached?
Hudson Torres
>How much of my information does google get from my Android phone? Position, contacts, photos (metadata only if you disabled backups), calendar dates, they are able to remotely unlock a turned on (but locked) phone on a police request etc. Using GAPPS is fucking retarded.
Jaxon Collins
>there should be nothing about my private life since I've never searched for family/friends online There's so much more that google analyses, google searches are just one of the ways they gather information.
A lot of websites use google API's or other google services indirectly, which pretty much gives this data to google as well.
Pretty much everything if you are logged into your google account. "Google Play Services" is the OS-based service that does it, if you feel that you want something that respects your privacy you can look into "no google" project OS'es on XDA.
Isaac Anderson
>I have a Google account
>pull pants down >surprised to find dicks in your anus
Isaiah Flores
Even the porn I'm watching on my phone?
Matthew Cook
especially the porn you're watching on your phone
Dominic Miller
Especially the porn you're watching on your phone!
Wyatt Parker
I'd say companies aren't doing enough with the data they've collected. They should work with government law enforcement agencies to begin Minority Report style investigations, they can track down possible criminals before they do anything. If they can match ads and people with you surely they can tell if you're depressed or involved in any criminal activities.
I want my dystopian world damn you.
Matthew Morris
>Google knows how often I jack off >Google knows my sexual habits. This is strangely arousing, does this count as exhibitionism?
Josiah Mitchell
yeah
if you've used your real name, address whatever along the youtube-gmail-android chain then google can connect all that to your browsing history anywhere you've been that uses google scripts.
Evan Adams
>if you've used your real name, other people already connected your real name with your phone number in their contact books, there is no escape unless you don't use Google at all on your phone.
Juan Thomas
Cred Forums people are generally complete retards when it comes to "muh privacy".
the retarded fearmongering over windows 10 and muh open sores etc.
people here think open source = silver bullet, what they don't understand is they're carrying around the real botnet in their pocket.
Austin Kelly
this, they have not only all the info you've inadvertedly given them, but they also have the info your friends are giving them about you.
Honestly, at this point, is it even possible not to be tracked like that? Can you live your life without google? Serious question.
Hudson King
> carrying around > implying
Cooper Torres
I know just explaining it for people that don't understand that their Cred Forums/internet browsing is connected to their gmail, youtube, google etc accounts.
Justin Peterson
Its the other people, not you. They have your Name and phone number in their Android contact list, which oft course they sync to their Google account.
No matter how careful you yourself behave, Google will always know nearly everything about you as long as you have a phone number that other people know.
Same goes for Facebook really. Why do you think they wanted WhatsApp so bad?
Cameron Parker
>Google will always know nearly everything about you as long as you have a phone number that other people know. What they know is your name and your number. The rest you have to give to them by using PlayServices or associating your number to a G+ account. They don't have what they don't get.
Lucas Richardson
The simple fact that Google doesn't know shit about you is enough for them to infer a shitload of interesting things.
Josiah Hill
YOU have to give them nothing. One other person putting your address or birthday in the details of your contact on his phone is enough. But all of that is besides the point, since you can be identified by metadata alone. Your number's appearance in other people's contact list is then used for determining your social network, and possibly to help identify others. All without anyone giving any further details on another.
Google cares about big data, not about any individual user. Nice conspiracy theory though.
>One other person putting your address or birthday in the details of your contact on his phone is enough Enough for what? What exactly do you think Google can find out about you when they have your date of birth? That's all just information to single you out from others with the same name, nothing they can sell to advertisement networks. >Your number's appearance in other people's contact list is then used for determining your social network, and possibly to help identify others. All without anyone giving any further details on another. That's exactly what I said, pal. But that's not valuable information in the sense that they can use it to "provide better services" (sell ads). I know Bruce Schneiders article and I know that he confirms what I just told you. Maybe we talked past each other. Just don't fall for some sort of tracking conspiracy where Google would go to great lengths (i.e. having individual people stalk you for data) just so they can sell you some stupid ads.
Jonathan Phillips
>date of birth >your social network >not valuable info they can use to sell ads you clearly don't know shit you're more likely to buy shit people your age buy you're more likely to buy shit your friends bought
they don't need to be actively targeting you to get this info but if they want to target you, they already have enough info to deduce everything you are
Asher Morales
If you ever did anything using your private info online, Google knows it's you and has added you to their base data to be used with algorithms
Jayden Gonzalez
Also, as soon as you open up google plus (if it hasn't been running already that is) its uploading all your locations, images and other identifying shit.
Bentley Williams
It doesn't have to be you, botnet affects everyone. They've probably given out enough info to connect you with them.
Andrew Hall
>date of birth >your social network >not valuable info they can use to sell ads Ok how? How are they going to sell me ads without me giving them an Android platform or even a Google account?
Matthew Rivera
They don't. It's just information they have, nothing they can effectively use.
Chase Thomas
pretty much this. but if information about you keeps trickling, they will have enough info to associate your IP to that mass of information.
and what I've been saying this whole time is that they don't need to be trying to sell YOU ads. they don't even need to be trying to get information about you. even if you hide everything you are, they simply can deduce their way into knowing if they want.
see this picture. can you guess what did I paint over with a black box?
Mason Sullivan
Also if you have a Facebook account, check the advert preferences for a list of things Facebook thinks you like.
Hudson Evans
>if you have a Facebook account kill yourself
Nicholas Price
>I guess it's set up because I have a Google account It's set up because you blindly click stuff. That's also how you leaked the info about your friends. It's not spying, it's people themselves giving their private info. No botnet compares to sheer human stupidity.
Ryder Baker
>falling for the kys meme You don't need to have a Facebook account for Facebook to track you. I just have it as a simple landing page for people looking for me, so I don't have to do the awkward "why don't you have a facebook? (oh my god are you a terrorist)" talk with my friends.
Kayden Hall
>with my friends kill yourself
Ryder Watson
now that's what I call edgy
Brayden Harris
How does having big companies collect data about me affect my life?
Joshua Nelson
>How does having big companies collect data about me affect my life? it gives them the option to affect your life. maybe they don't affect you right now, but it doesn't mean they won't when they want to do so.
Jackson Morris
Basically the same argument against gun control.
Connor Perry
That data is used to inform and shape business decisions. Stuff that may not affect you alone or directly, but we are all affected nonetheless.
Henry Anderson
i really like this image. thank you
Ryan Morgan
I don't get the relevance.
Even so, people who want to have guns aren't multi-billion corporations who have the congress eating money off of their hands and who have repeatedly proven that they would and could do literally anything to get more money.
Jason Young
Companies collecting your data could choose to affect your life with it. The Government having information about your firearm ownership means they could choose to affect your life with it.
The question would be how much you'd trust the company/government. /k/'s nightmare scenario is basically what happened to Australia.
Jason Bailey
>The Government having information about your firearm ownership means they could choose to affect your life with it. oh, I thought you meant the "let nobody have guns because guns kill people" one
>The question would be how much you'd trust the company/government. exactly. my point is corporations stand to gain profit from exploiting you, but a government should be regulating them to the point they can't exploit you. the USA is an obvious exception since the corporations are those who decide what is law.
I suggest we implement a strong AI as the world government.
Luke Thompson
Making AI government would be a terrible idea.
If you asked it to make the world a better place it would instantly reinstate slavery, bomb majority black cities and genocide half of Africa
Samuel Nelson
go ask all the retards on Cred Forums installing linux because they think open source gives them privacy and makes them safe.
Ayden Sanchez
Tay for president
Michael Garcia
>How do they do it, Cred Forums? How is it that Google knows all there is about me? Even though I use fake names, fake addresses, and never shop online without a pre-paid card (and ship to a family post-box not under my name). The contacts list on your phone which you are syncing to your account.
Anthony Butler
Let me explain something, OP. Whenever you login into your Google account, a cookie is placed on your browser. Now whenever a google script is ran, it searches your browser for that cookie and ties your activity to that account. That's why they know everything about you. And google scripts are common, just look at all the sites that use google-analytics.
Jackson Gomez
>it would be a terrible idea >only mentions good ideas
Thomas Cook
You think you know this board, Pa/g/eet?
Logan Hernandez
>If you asked it to make the world a better place it would instantly reinstate slavery, bomb majority black cities and genocide half of Africa it might do those, and if it would, that means doing those are the ethically right things to do, which would mean those things should be done anyway.