anyone here actively develop software on OpenBSD? how do you fair?
Ryan Walker
i'm using it to learn C
pledge is neat i guess
sometimes when i'm not sure of how to do something i actually look through the openbsd source code
Hudson Carter
bump
Jordan Garcia
What's the difference between BSD and other distros?
That sets it aside?
Brayden Hill
Just switch to linux already
Evan Nguyen
BSD is not a Linux distro, if that's what you're implying.
Caleb Ross
You're a persistent little shit, aren't you?
Luis Murphy
/thread
Carter Reyes
Ok, i'm still a Windowsfag OP.
Convince me why i should run BSD and i don't give a shit about muh games, not the reason why i still use Windows
Christopher Allen
Thanks for the bump
Carson Garcia
I actually like FreeBSD tho. I think it has the potential to compete with Linux!
OpenBSD is garbage.
Alexander Gomez
>likes FreeBSD >shitposts in BSD threads kek, sure thing bud
Thomas White
You don't like it when you get the chance to bump your thread while debunking me? I thought we were friends ;_;
Ayden Cooper
I'd rather the thread die than have you show up.
Daniel Sanders
OpenBSD is well designed and contains great security features. It handles what 90% of Linux users need and provides extra benefit on top of that.
A nice full-featured base system with X, a couple window managers, the pf firewall, lots of nicely designed servers like the httpd webserver and OpenSMTPD mail server. System configuration files that are easy to read and modify.
Clear, comprehensive manpages and a great FAQ on the website. No need to google and trawl old forums and blogs to get something working, because the documentation is always up to date and actively maintained.
What you don't get in the base system, you can get from packages if you really need to. Base system programs use techniques like pledge, privilege separation, and fork+exec to be more secure. Other security features work both for the base system and installed packages: stack protector, ASLR, separate users for each daemon, W^X enforcement, actual random number generation, and so on.
Jack Miller
Playing hard to get, ay?
Cooper Wilson
>A nice full-featured base system with X, a couple window managers, the pf firewall, lots of nicely designed servers like the httpd webserver and OpenSMTPD mail server. System configuration files that are easy to read and modify. And basically a very limited software support
Nicholas Butler
will openbsd support wayland once it's matured?
Oliver Bennett
kek
Caleb Scott
Nice, will install freebsd later
Have a dess dess, good user
Christian James
Probably.
Freedesktop made it hard enough to support Xorg though. They switched to a GNU build system, hence why the OpenBSD people had to do Xenocara.
Parker Wilson
Probably at some point, but it might lag Linux a little. OpenBSD software tends to be up to date most of the time but not always. GNOME, XFCE, Firefox, Chrome, etc are all current, but KDE is an old version, for example.
Jose Gutierrez
SysVR4 >>>>> BSD
Cameron Gray
reminder that BSD introduced stuff like vi and more
Henry Garcia
Can ports look as good as portage?
Nathan Collins
OH wow! And now a SysV is giving you Dtrace and ZFS.
Jackson Fisher
>implying SysVR4, especially the one in Solaris, isn't pretty much BSD
Jaxson Perry
>SysVR4 is pretty much BSD retard alert. There's no reason to run BSD since Illumos exists.
Hudson Bell
there is one
illumos is even deader
Noah Russell
> REM > not RAM which is what you need
Aiden Peterson
>illumos dead na. Joyent even runs a pkgsrc repo with 17,000 binary packages.
Carter Turner
well ok then
OBSCURE maybe
there's nothing wrong with that either, i think every Unix and Unix-like have a right to exist as long as they bring something to the table
i still want to see a complete GNU operating system even if i know it would be fucking awful
Fuchsia sounds good but I doubt it will be in a state comparable to the BSDs anytime soon. If the things it does are actually decent then the BSD devs will probably incorporate parts of it into their OSes. I doubt the BSD devs would ever give up because another OS exists.
Hudson Ramirez
Yeah, you're right. Theo de Raadt's basement has way more development resources that fucking Alphabet, the world's largest corporation. Thank you for correcting the record.
Owen Wilson
How (where) do you access the source code from?
Andrew Taylor
Honestly what is it with the aggressive shilling of this? Is it parody?
Justin Gray
sndio is so much better than PulseAudio or most other APIs. Mainly because it's so much like OSS.
Isaiah Harris
i just clone the CVS tree
if you can't/don't want to do that, just google "cvsweb openbsd"
Parker Martinez
isn't that the point?
i think sndio even might have oss emulation
Alexander Wilson
BSD is a parody of UNIX.
Jackson Davis
>CVS
What year is it?
Landon Young
You'll never even be able to compete with *BSD, 40BMI manlet
Nolan Ward
i'm just as confused as you are on the choice of keeping CVS but hey it works
it's just slow and confusing to use
Michael Adams
oh and at least they don't use fucking svn
doesn't freebsd use that to this day?
Charles Butler
Thanks user. I've heard from more than one place that the sourcecode was actually a pleasure to read, which sounded funny at first.
Jose Long
I completed my first 24 hour fast today. I won't be a fatty for much longer.
Alphabet will crush BSD and Linux like bugs.
b-b-b-but muh git uses GPL Q_Q
Daniel Johnson
i think it's not just that
it's just that the idea of moving the entirety of the tree to git while preserving history is a pain in the fucking ass
Asher Rivera
hehehehe starving won't rid you of the pile of fat you grew in your body friendless kissless virgin lmfao.
Luis Thomas
I have friends and I'm not a virgin.
fasting > dieting
Fuchsia > BSD
Ryder Cook
>friends I know, 2 friends. You happen to call them "parents"
>not a virgin Hands wont count
lmao no wonder you are friendless virgin, considering how fat and smelly you are kek
BSD> pile of shit > fucksya BTFO manchild hehehe
Adam Ross
I have gained more friends actually, because I have been friendzoned by so many women. I have a normal number of friends now. Something like 5.
How exactly do you plan on competing with Alphabet?
Angel Hughes
When did Solaris become obscure?
>am I getting old?
Evan Nguyen
Doesn't being friendzoned mean you at least had a shit beforehand? Because you sure as hell didn't.
Nolan Bell
>competing with Alphabet? >competing It has to step inside the game, dumbshit manbaby
Samuel Ortiz
i think as weird as it sounds, there's probably more people who know about SPARC hardware than Solaris these days