Cool! not going to add it to list, but i'm glad you found a distro that makes you happy ^.^
Also heres the WM ram comparison
Joseph Myers
careful with that devuan tho. it can and very likely will install libsystemd if you install some packages. i thought that systemd was completely removed from it but this distro is just a scam.
Blake Lewis
still beats the hell out of running systemd full time. Perhaps the packages you are referring to now have hard dependency on libsystemd. There's not much Devuan can do in that case.
Leo Richardson
Should be asking in the stupid questions thread, but what are gaps?
I keep seeing gaps mentioned when reading about i3 and such. I'm very new.
Connor Campbell
bloat.(wastes space that could be used to display something useful)
Ian Cooper
gaps are literally what it sounds like. They're little aesthetic gaps between your windows in a tiling WM. Without gaps, all your windows are literally right up against each other. pic related is some random rice I found that has gaps.
Jonathan Walker
and here's a pic with no gaps. It's really just up to personal preference. I think most WMs that support gaps allow you to toggle them on and off, so you can switch.
Also, if you want gaps on i3, you need to use the fork called i3-gaps
Leo Ramirez
Interesting, thanks.
I could definitely see myself having a little bit of gap between them. Having everything run up against each other would be hard on the eyes for me.
Noah Roberts
sounds good! oh and what do you think of my OP pic? uwu
Nathaniel Cox
what's a good number of packages to have? sitting at 901 right now
Christopher Garcia
not terribly important, because different distros package stuff in different ways, leading to big differences in the count between something like Debian vs something like Arch. Also, there are some people who use stuff like latex, video editing tools, or programming libraries for multiple languages, which always cause the package count to shoot way the hell up.
So in other words, don't worry about it too much.
Adam Brown
hello anons, I have troubles with my wlp8s0 connection, Can you give me some suggestion please,
Gavin Davis
what distro are you using?
Easton Hall
Why is ImageMagick consider the minimal solution for screenshots and wallpaper management?
Ethan Scott
under 999 desu.
Aaron Campbell
nah, its either feh or that suckless
Kevin Smith
feh or hsetroot is the best way to do it. Imagemagick uses like 10MB more ram consistently. It's not much, but why do it that way when feh and hsetroot work just as well?
Ethan Turner
Ubuntu 15
Jose Scott
wallpaper is NOT minimal
Levi Morgan
this t.bh. Does feh use memory when setting a wallpaper
Joshua Richardson
Speaking about ImageMagick, since I only use the "convert" part of this big chunck of software, is there any alternative to this ?
Noah Russell
Very nice setup even if I can't stand that web browser. I think I might also use that font.
>Also, if you want gaps on i3, you need to use the fork called i3-gaps Why aren't they merging it in i3?
Are anybody else having glitches on their wallpaper when they run an application through bumblebee (primusrun/optirun)? It fucks it up and then it stay broken until you reload it. I think it might be an hsetroot problem.
Wyatt Smith
>Why aren't they merging it in i3? Apparently is implemented badly as a hack and, because of how i3 is written, it can hardly be done otherwise. The maintainer of i3 and i3gaps is the same guy.
Isaiah Morris
Daily reminder to join #glmg on EFNet IRC is minimal
Lincoln Perez
it's the faggot debian fanboy op again, putting in devuan just to subtle suggest debian. Still did not explain how that shit is minimal, how apt handles packages minimal and how the netinst is not bloated as fuck, installing random packages you won't ever need even when you uncheck everything. Also every installer who do not allow you a sh shell to proceed on your own is bloat. Still, let's include debian in the list cause the op has a fetish for it.
Eli Hughes
I never used debian nor devuan, but if you have a point you can argue your opinion without being a little bitch. If it makes sense, he'll remove it. Archlinux had the shitty pastas for days; we discussed what was true (eg. no splitting packages) and what was bullshit (eg. vim brings X) to finally choose to remove it from the OP.
Henry Reyes
1. What is the fastest window manager? {Also i tested "bspwm vs i3" and i3 works muuuch faster than bspwm, but i don't think this is The Fastest, because it's bloat}
2. Why glmg-guys so love dwm? According to this it eats much more memory than 2bwm for example, and also it uses XLIB(which is (?)slower(?) than XLIB). And what's good about config.h?
Jack Rodriguez
>slower than XCB*
Mason Turner
That looks so cool. Gaps are shit
Cameron Miller
I agree Arch does not belong in the list with stuff like alpine, slack, void, etc. but imo same goes for debian/devuan. Systemd is the main point of course, and no systemd distro should be allowed in here. But, even without it debian (devuan) is still bloated. Debian splits packages more, and even so, is not entirely true and situational, for example in Arch meta packages are more modular and you can avoid the meta-package, picking single packages without breaking stuff, in debian you can't most of the time. Apt often pulls unecessary stuff as dependencies and the installer itself is bloated even without anything checked. Arch has an installing process the same as void (which isn't an arch fork, thank god, but inherited the good things, such as the installer) which gives you way more freedom than something like netinst, void adds up to that giving you (and not forcing you, like debian does) an installer script which keeps everything minimal, but in the end it's always: partition, mount, install base in /mnt, chroot and do what you want. In conclusion, I'd just remove debian and derivates as a whole from the OP. Even Arch has forks without systemd, even without it, it's still not minimal. Same goes with debian, for different reasons.There you have the non-bitching version.
Alexander Brooks
forgot to add that stuff like GNU GuixSD, afaik, does not support LUKS encryption yet and if anything, users should be aware of that when choosing it. No point in being minimal if you miss some critical security features. It's like choosing a distro which doesn't support ssl/tls at all.
Angel Mitchell
why does anyone actually run gentoo?
just seems like one of those waste-of-time distros like arch
Ryder Phillips
i3-gaps causes memory leaks on muh gentoo, it was installed through an ebuild from gpo though so maybe I had an outdated version
Angel King
>pulseaudio great music taste, tho.
Luke Diaz
was meant for this delete and repost reddit hero.
Carter Kelly
it's actually more time consuming than Arch to install and marginally more time consuming to maintain. I've been using it since November 2017 and it's been quite good fun but it's definitely for hobbyists.
Alexander Green
personally I think it makes more sense to use a WM that supports it by default, rather than some random fork. That's why I switched to using bspwm at one point.
Jaxson Clark
Damn, these dudes are cute
Brody Nelson
I know right!?! ^_^
Henry Cox
>got rid of dbus, pam, consolekit, and policykit Freedom never felt so free.
Daniel James
is there an slstatus date format string? i've tried looking but there is very little documentation surrounding slstatus
Ryan Hughes
>Why glmg-guys so love dwm? It's a genuinely brilliant piece of interface. Workspaces are tags, multiple tags can be applied to one window, and you can make unions with a key press. > it eats much more memory than 2bwm for example 2bwm doesn't do any of that though? To my knowledge the only other WMs that can are xmonad and awesome. > XLIB(which is (?)slower(?) than XCB) Makes no difference that I've ever been able to notice. > And what's good about config.h? I dunno if it's great, but I've seen a lot worse (((human readable))) config file formats.
Chase Thompson
gentoo is probably the only distro that has packaged dwm properly.
Benjamin Green
>getting dwm from a package manager ever
Angel Garcia
Good OP
Caleb Gray
yay u like it!
Luke Jenkins
theres nothing wrong with doing that on gentoo. just remember to enable the savedconfig useflag so you can edit the config
Joshua Martinez
>can't figure out how to patch st on gentoo
Luis Perry
Just occurred to me the CloverOS guys do Gentoo with presets, how minimal are they does somebody know?
Cameron Nguyen
>tfw patched st but I don't remember how
Henry Gomez
patches are bloat. st is perfect by default.
Sebastian Perry
i just want scrolling. otherwise it is perfect.
Aiden Russell
I am lazy AF. Is that any distro which is not arch but has something like AUR?
Zachary Watson
just git things
Isaiah Mitchell
>Is that any distro which is not arch but has something like AUR? Plenty >I am lazy AF. Void Linux?
Jordan Hughes
>one week has passed >still trying to use this shit distro called Crux
Anthony Roberts
You are teasing me into trying CRUX
Mason Russell
Most distros have some kind of automated build script. Fedora and Debian anyway. Of course windowed fullscreen support is only in git, and most distros just blindly ship the last point release instead.
Nathaniel Parker
never used that distro but it cant be harder to install than gentoo.
Robert Kelly
Nothing campares to AUR. I use arch btw
Evan Gomez
Crux is basically a sub-sub-niche version of Gentoo with extremely bad release testing.
Colton Nelson
I want to install Gentoo but I am afraid to ruin my dad's Ubuntu partition lmao
Jeremiah Barnes
CloverOS is minimal in that it doesn't have useless services or programs compiled with useless stuff. The ISO includes software though.
Christian Watson
Seriously, this distro is a mess!
Tyler Parker
I've been seeing a lot of people struggle with CRUX. are they brainlets, or should I take CRUX out of the list next time?
maybe the kernel is not configured properly if its like gentoo?
Luke Nelson
I like my vanilla dwm. Fuck off fag
Ethan Rogers
take out fucking crux
Ryan Gray
will do
Kevin Wood
>Fuck off fag
Carter Scott
Is TCC worth using? Is it still being worked on?
Angel Hernandez
Kernel is configured properly. All loaded driver and modules are included on config.
This distro is a fucking garbage bugged.
Nolan Roberts
How well would Devuan work on a Thinkpad X200s?
Jace Walker
why does the person that posts these threads always put little boys as pic related. We get it you like kids- this is not catholic church general, man. Quit it
Jordan Bell
Threadly reminder decimal kilobytes and bibibytes instead of proper binary kilobytes are bloat
Nolan Garcia
>not measuring in nibbles
Logan Gray
Devuan is a meme distro like crux.
Just use debian
Michael Watson
figured it out. >git clone git.suckless.org/st >cp *.diff st;cd st >git apply *.diff >make & make install *diff is the patch way easier than gentoo's guide
Christopher Harris
>fell GNU/Linux-systemd
Alexander Lewis
tfw enjoy installing distros and programs more than actually using them
Noah Ramirez
>version of Gentoo Wrong
David Butler
installed void today after a month in fedora, and arch before that. thanks
Noah Gonzalez
Dont rush to remove it before having a second opinion, not that I use or that I disagree in its remove
Works wonderful and I am now with Ascii (Debian Stretch) because cutting edge
Matthew Sullivan
I got rid of consolekit, policykit and avahi and is working great, feels good man
Henry Wright
I've got an idea: If 5 or more people can install Crux and set up a basic environment, you do not remove it. If fewer than 5 people can do that then you remove it.
The installation must be done ONLY in physical machine or Vmware (Player, Workstation, EXSi ...). Not worth installing in Virtualbox.
Nathaniel Edwards
Computers are bloat, goodbye.
Charles Foster
This is true But where will you go user? Let's be minimal in the mountains together
Joseph Reyes
>2018 >not using smoke signal or letter
Ian Rivera
t. Kaczynski
Robert Hernandez
computers are minimal. life is bloat.
Adam Bennett
Life is 0123456789 Computers are 0 and 1 Computers aren't bloat
Justin Sanders
If I did it once before from windows to a different os once before, Is there any reason not to dban nuke it again before installing another os like ubuntu?
Samuel Carter
My sides
Daniel Ross
Guys why the fuck is twitter so bloat
Leo White
PC is bloat. Laptops aren't. Laptops are /minimal/. If you own a PC, throw it away and get a decent laptop
John Morris
How is Xmonad? I recently taught myself Haskell and heard about Xmonad so I'm considering switching over from i3.
Levi White
dwm man
Daniel Brooks
>implying you need anything more than tty1
Chase Morris
How about you go do some integration testing on your piece of shit distro and do a little more meditation on the definition of "basically".
Isaiah Watson
It's pretty good. I don't have use for anything more complicated than dwm, but if I did it would be xmonad.
Justin Thompson
Is Plan9 bloat?
Sebastian Hernandez
>implying you need anything more than kernel
Dylan Garcia
No just retarded, except Harvey OS.
Jordan Sanders
using debian now should i switch back to gentoo?
Lincoln Gonzalez
yes
Ethan Morgan
>gentoo
INSTALL LFS
Carson Williams
Is midori a minimalist browser?
Jayden Green
Use what you're comfortable to use. Why have you choose to remove Gentoo and why you choose Debian as your new distro?
Sebastian Smith
Just installed void linux with herbstluftwm, what browser should I get? Something minimal that doesn't sacrifice too much usability. Im using gnu icecat right now, but for some reason its very slow to load pages
Asher Price
I like qutebrowser but get used to using the keyboard often.