Okay but seriously, how is this country different from Spain?

Okay but seriously, how is this country different from Spain?

spain is a bunch of regions different among each other
of course portugal will look like ONLY ONE of those regions
like not all USA looks like Mexico but only a part

English influence and I'm not kidding, Spain was closely linked to the old Italian nations, but Portugal is more linked to UK. This made the relations between the two countries were very few as trade and cultural exchange, Spain performed it with Italy and Portugal with United Kingdom.

Basically this, Spain is Castille cucking everybody else in the peninsula, except for Portugal.

habla guarani

That's not true, Aragon and Castile voluntarily joined the balance of power was quite similar; Moreover, whenever Castilla attempt to unify the institutions of both kingdoms Aragon entered civil war with Castile, today is a national holiday in Catalonia one of those absurd wars. And what's left? Oh, yes, Navarra, but they were cucked by the Aragonese.

Why? Did they need british help to remain independent?

t. Castillian

sí pero qué tiene que ver

Not really, because there was no relevant mixing of both countries since the separation (which only makes us similar because we started from the same pool of people). Although you guys have Galicia, to which we're similar in a few ways.

Portugal (+ Galicia) is the rain/wind shield to the peninsula, and we have a higher percentage of people who live close to the sea. Out weather is also rainier and we are isolated from the rest of the peninsula/continent. Weirdly enough, we're more open to foreign influence in regards to language and tourists. Mostly because we get it in smaller numbers and there's a novelty to it.

We ended up more conservative, more quiet and introverted, more depressed and autistic, whereas Spain has more Chads. In a southern-Europe scale, of course, we still hold no candle to the Finns, for example. We're less showy, and you can tell it in our architecture and mentality, where we like being discrete and quiet, until our Jimmies are rustled.

We drink more wine, eat more fish, party a bit less and are more judgemental of new things. It's also a greener country, with more varied food (per unit of area anyway) since we had a lot of spices.

We're still each other's closest country culturally though, for obvious reason.

Multiple times. Portugal and England have been allies since the inception of the country, almost, by trading crusaders (although only officially since 1385). We made up for it by never taking the French side and denying their requests to cuck Britain out.

Port wine was invested in by the brits (we didn't really like it much at first), tea was introduced in England by a Portuguese Queen, and such.

Couple of bumps here and there (pink map and all), but historically we've been cool.

in case you didn't know, Spain "sided" with Napoleon and he was blown off by the brits
that's also the explanation for Gibraltar

That bigger block of text after the first line was for .

You're mixing things up.

1. Spain ping-ponged between allying with France and Britain during the Wars of the Convention because both countries posed a threat to the power projection capabilities (and to an extent the very survival) of Spain. Not to mention being a threat to one another.

2. Gibraltar changed hands during the War of Spanish Succession, a completely different and unrelated event, about 100 years prior.

ah ok

>weather difference
you can draw a rectangle on the green corner of the peninsula and that's Portugal. why is Spain so desertic?

Portugal AND Galicia. Or rather, Galicia and Southern Galicia. It's pretty much Spain's windshield. Accidented terrain and relative proximity to Africa could be some reasons for the dry, dull look of the Peninsula. In fact, greenery looks mostly like a West-East gradient.

>greentugal

>Okay but seriously, how is this country different from Spain?

Poortugal still has unemployment below fucking 20% and an intact basic government services.

I found Poortuguese to be the more miserable people for some reason. They seem to be melancholic and nostalgic by nature.

High mountains in East Portugal break the clouds into rain.

The peninsula gets 2 main winds: Atlantic and African.

Portugal(+ Galicia + Northern Spanish shore) get both, but most of Spain never gets the Atlantic Wind because the mountains break it. Portugal mostly gets the African wind in the southern part where it is more desert-y, but not to the extent of Spain.

If you look at a map you see that Spain is basically two mesas divided somewhat diagonally by the Tejo.

I don't know East Spain's weather too well, though.

>Saudadetugal
Yeah, we are. Perpetually worried/homesick/sad.

A lot of people cross that line into depression, but even the happier ones are still very stoic.

The unemployment shit is tough, but Spain does have higher salaries.

>Perpetually worried/homesick/sad.
Sounds like a country I would fit in.

Would a spoiled German survive there? Are you on the verge of collapse, or simply poor in a peaceful way?

who cares about shitugal..spanish colonies have better HDI than them

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Fuck off, they're our brothers.

>Are you on the verge of collapse, or simply poor in a peaceful way?
Both? We're not sure, and it's worrying us further. I don't think we will fall, because we weren't slacking off nearly as much as Greece, we just have corrupt and inefficient politicians, so I assume it'll just get to the point where they'll stop calling the shots and divert to Europe or something. I don't know, though.

Coming here with foreign money for investment would certainly help. Opening an engineering firm is probably your best best, since we have really good engineers with cheap salaries, so if you pay above average you get a great crop.

Taxes are a bitch, though, and would probably drive you away.

>reggaeton
>no reggaeton

>Taxes are a bitch, though
You too? Eee, what's wrong with Iberia in this respect? I have several times been told by accountants to stay illegal whenever I've wanted to actually start paying taxes, due to the fact that it's simply not possible to honestly follow the law and be gainfully self-employed. It's disgusting.

i also dont get how spaniards and portuguese hate each other

you iberians are unique and lonely in this crisis-ridden, germany-dominated europe, why turn on each other?

we don't hate Portugal, we hate you,germany

>Spaniards and portuguese hate each other
Probably just a stupid adolescent internet banter thing. Then again, most other Spaniards take the piss out of us in the South too, anyway!

Irl nobody gives a flying fuck.

We are all tsundere

>You too? Eee, what's wrong with Iberia in this respect?
I don't really know, actually. Socialism?

Although Portugal has had historically high taxes since the beginning. People used to have to pay a fifth of their earnings to the King.

It's great when a good king can put it to good use - Discoveries and all - but we haven't had a good leader since forever.

Fucking sucks. We need to bring companies here.

Portugal generally distrusts Spain because historic invasions, Spain pretty much doesn't care about Portugal anymore (France/Germany is the big meanie, and we're not worth the effort).

It's just a history thing. Think Germany/Netherlands, I presume, knowing very little of the countries' relationships.

There's no real violence anymore, but Spain likes Portugal a little bit more than the other way around, I'd say. We have nobody else to complain about is the problem, really.

>I don't really know, actually. Socialism?

It mainly works to keep DOWN the working man with drive and talent, as far as I can see, but that sort of thing would suit our "socialists" here just as much as it would our older elites, given how they seem to prefer ruling over slavish dependent peons rather than actually lifting the people up.

Portugal is the knockoff version of Galicia which is a province of Spain

How reductive.

You'd be right 800 years ago. Galicia has been Spain'd a fair bit, especially last century.

I'd say we're closer to what Galicia started as than current Galicia is. I'm basing this mostly on language.

Also, at some point in the XIV century most noblemen in Galicia were killed and/or replaced for supporting Portugal (they were ours for like 3 months).

The Kingdom of Leon had two sons, Portugal and Castilla.
Portugal became independent and Castilla ate the father.

>Erasmus students coming to my town in the North expecting sunny weather and good beaches
>Erasmus students expecting bullfights and fado

Good Fado isn't very far, though.

Coimbra is an hour away from most of the North.

Yeah but we like to offer them European music, always better.

To be fair, outside of tuna gatherings and rehearsals, Fado is mostly just a Queima/Latada thing.

>literally the only thing we learned about portugal in swedish school was vasco da gama
I have no clue