The reason why Western leaded the industrial revolution and social develop is not because they're superior in that...

The reason why Western leaded the industrial revolution and social develop is not because they're superior in that ability

It's just because Mongolia didn't fuck that region making the place's progress 300 years back

and do you know why mongols didnt fuck up western europe?
because mongol horsefuckers cant conquer stone castles.
and we had stone castles because we are superior

In all fairness I'm pretty sure rationalism and an educated elite resulting from colonialism, as well as a tradition of British liberal thought, had something to do with it.

Also because the chinks decided to dump their superiour fleet because muh confucian values.

We all wuz something at some point befor X meanie came to fuck it up, we wuz at the right time with the right mindset.

I wish it was a real fact that you guys were superior.

But you ruined your land taking muslims in. Guess it's because your cucklording fetish feature. Too bad. franksausage

Also because conflict breeds technology and Europe was very war-like, plus the influx of riches from colonies

You do realize that much the same as us you just imported the industrial revolution from Great Britain don't you?

This,not our fault the jews took over our media and education system.

learn from our mistakes, yellow man
when the last of us died, you have to keep the memory of white man alive.
and dont let niggers and muslims in your country

>I wish it was a real fact that you guys were superior.
Na, we were lucky with the geography.

yes it must be the jews

>We all wuz something at some point
R-really? E-even us brazillians?

Pedro II and her Royal Highness the God-Empress Dilma first of her name

>Implying they couldn't

They threw plague infested bodies over the walls of castles.

First known use of biological warfare, and it worked too.

Explain what the mongols did please.

We wuz kangs until the jews came along and cucked us.

Really? Savage.

>It's just because Mongolia didn't fuck that region making the place's progress 300 years back
No, it's because we had the Jews, and you didn't.

>Explain what the mongols did please.

Mongols literally exterminated China, Arab world achievements which were bretty nice culture and technology

jajaja koreans are mongol rape babies jaja

why tho? sounds stupid to get rid of other people's technology instead of implementing them.

Mongols were barbarians, much like Vikangkz

>Mongolia never invaded Europe

Yez Brazilla, even yous used tuh be KANG

>muh mongolian boogeyman

>and do you know why mongols didnt fuck up western europe?
>because mongol horsefuckers cant conquer stone castles.
Where did you learn history? Yahoo Answers?

According to historians, it it weren't for the Vikings constantly pillaging and raping the UK north east, we'd have been able to reach the Industrial Age a hundred years earlier

Any kind of "if it weren't for ______, we'd be ______ right now" prediction is absolute rubbish 90% of the time.

Even though mongols did manage to conquer heavily fortified cities in China, especially in song territory, they did struggle to conquer eastern european castles, especially hungary's defense web which was built to push them back.
Of course I'm talking about castles since they're a primarily western specificity.

That being said, had western europe stood closer from the mongols and other steppeniggers, we might have fallen as well. Just consider how far Europe is from mongolian homeland.

If you weren't culturally enriched by viking rape you would all be drunk irish italians

just read guns germs and steel and the bell curve and see the true redpill.............

According to historians, if OP wasn't a vauge faggot this thread would have ended 100 years earlier

but korea

yuo r mong

He's not wrong. The walled cities they conquered in China were a vastly different proposition to European castles. the mongols also never got European siege engineers like they did in the east.

It's just a major oversimplification, the Mongols failed in Europe for a lot of reasons, including the European agriculture being able to sustain prolonged fights against them, relative inferiority of Mongol horses to European ones in the environment they were fighting in, and infighting within the Mongol forces. All in all though nobody knows the true reason for the Mongol withdrawal.

They did have a rough time fighting against heavily fortified European defenses, though, which is curious because their heavy use of gunpowder in battle was similar to the Ottomans, who had a lot more success.

more like Gengis Khan't, lmao

>the mongols also never got European siege engineers like they did in the east.
they had chinese and iranian engineers which was good enough

Nah, there was a delay in invading Europe because of internal conflict, they didn't have the siege engineers when they got around to it.

But anyway, hundreds of castles each individually designed and located to maximise their defensive strength and requiring significant man power to siege are obviously going to be more difficult to conquer than cities that have just had walls thrown up around them

Castles are irrelevant against the Mongols though if their goal is to plunder and enslave. Castles are rather small, can garrison around 2000 soldiers at most (Krak des Chevaliers size) so its some big wigs and their little army. Unlike western kings and lords who don't kill peasants unnecessary the Mongols just don't give a fuck.

So you have a few thousand men and the faglords holed inside a impregnable fortress while they're free to plunder the land, cities and burn everything to the ground. That would still set you back centuries to repopulate alone if they did invade.

Why would the Mongols have needed to take the castles? They could just starve out the garrison and live off the (rich and fertile) land. Right?

This guy is right.

What the point in sitting in castles when mongols just burn your lands killing everything in sight?

There was only 3 castles in in Finland.

You lost, get over it

That's not true at all

and what do mongol armies eat after europeans have garrisoned themselves inside castles with all the nearby food stored for provisions that could last years?

They needed to keep moving or a standing army of pikeman and archers could fuck their shit up of they ever caught them
That's just my guess though

you're a complete moron, the land is only rich if harvested, and the first thing any lord would do once he knew a mongol horde was headed his way is store all the nearby food into the castle and prepare for a siege

RARE FLAG

Couldn't they just plant some fruit trees and import chickens n shit from somewhere else?

>implying Eastern Europe didn't have stone castles and knights like the west
Come on, Hans. There is probably a reason the Mongol empire didn't reach the west, but that's certainly not it.

lol, hope you're joking

It's true though, central Europe was a quagmire of fortifications and castles. Sure the east had it to, but it take Germany, it consisted of what? A hundred competing states that fortified their lands against each other.

Europeans have been competing against each other, which is the reason why the continent rose to preeminence later on, it was always kill or be killed, with so many different peoples and cultures so close to one another.

Also, the Europeans had fortification building down to a science.

they are responsible for the black plague that killed 1/3 of the european population

Fucking mongolia
How do you will response all of this degenerates you made in Asia

You've fucked it up more harsh than hitler

Nice propaganda. The mongol empire advanced technology and almost every Asian was Mongolified (which is good)

The Mongol Empire is the reason the Islamic world became shit

>because mongol horsefuckers cant conquer stone castles.
oh boy, lol
grab a book boy

They will burn and pillage everything, kill half of your peasant population and raze your cities and then they go back.

Mongols also liked to enslave specialists: masons, builders, blacksmiths, doctors etc.

Also, you're pretty naive if you think mongols were barbarians who couldn't siege/assault castles or use siege machines or carry certain amount of provision.

Try to restore your glory after that.

It happened in Rus' and set us back for like 200 years.

M8, mongols used horse archers en masse. And they turned that tactic into state of the art.

Those archers circled around enemy forces shooting them but not really starting real fight until they all die or start to run away. And if they try to run away that's when their main forces attack.

They also used false retreat tactic.

European armies and tactics were simply ineffective against mongols.

Read about how they attacked Poland, Hungary and Rus.

Britain is the reason though. You started the refugee crisis