What MBT does you're country use? Are you happy with the decision?

Joshua Walker
Joshua Walker

tfw your country fell for the shitty Leopard 2 meme instead of the based Challenger II

What MBT does you're country use? Are you happy with the decision?

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Nathaniel Kelly
Nathaniel Kelly

I don't really know anything about tanks.

What makes the Leopard 2 a meme? Does it have White bottom text under it?

Angel Perez
Angel Perez

Held from May 10 to 12 and jointly hosted by the U.S. Army and the German Bundeswehr at the Grafenwoehr Training Area in Germany, the the Strong Europe Tank Challenge included challengers from six NATO countries: Denmark, Germany, Italy, Poland, and Slovenia—which sent tank platoons of four tanks each to compete— and the United States, which sent two platoons.

Germany wound up coming in first place, followed by Denmark and Poland.

Both top 3 spots had Leopard 2 modernized by their own armies :)))

youtube.com/watch?v=wvLpQiaKIYw

stay on your safe continent Canada, this is wolf country here and you'd be pray in no time

Justin Gray
Justin Gray

Which tank is your waifu?

Hudson Murphy
Hudson Murphy

Do you only use the Leopard?

Bentley Ramirez
Bentley Ramirez

Leopard is pretty good for European territories desu, maybe not perfect for the desert.
t. Leopard user

Sebastian Nelson
Sebastian Nelson

tfw your country use meme tanks

Samuel Long
Samuel Long

My cunt uses the merkava mk3
Specifically designed for the israeli environment. Uses trophy active protection system to blow up incoming anti tank shells before they hit. Has 6 passenger seats for non crew members inside the tank.

Aiden Martin
Aiden Martin

We sold our main battle tanks.

Noah Thompson
Noah Thompson

our tanks are fucking unrivaled

Noah Sullivan
Noah Sullivan

Merkava is a really interesting tank
Its engine is also on the front
It's designed to fight against infantry rather than tanks I guess

Zachary Nguyen
Zachary Nguyen

Which should be the MBT for the future Catalan Republic? Would the Leclerc be a good choice?

Nathaniel Ramirez
Nathaniel Ramirez

dont be so sure

Joshua Baker
Joshua Baker

No. We got over 1000 tanks in service(serviced, working, with ammo).

Thomas Gomez
Thomas Gomez

and shitty T72's mods

Eli Myers
Eli Myers

And PT-16 and PL-01(2018) in production soon.

Bentley Green
Bentley Green

The most important part of the tank is the crew.
Therefore the engine was placed in the front to add more protection.

Cooper Davis
Cooper Davis

I wonder if our government wants to buy those Polish tanks.

David Ross
David Ross

I think 2 years ago Netherlands sold it's Leopards to Finland. Is the Dutch goverment planning to buy new tanks?

Dominic Parker
Dominic Parker

There are talks about buying new tanks, but nothing is certain yet.

After MH17 all our political parties (literally all of them) have asked our government to reinvest in our military. They want to go from 1,1% spending to 1,5% spending over the course of a couple years.

Charles Diaz
Charles Diaz

do you liek ukrein?

Eli Wood
Eli Wood

We already voted about that. And the answer is no.

Bentley Thomas
Bentley Thomas

theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/06/dutch-voters-reject-closer-eu-links-to-ukraine-in-referendum

Carson Sanders
Carson Sanders

Good. PT-16 will be a main battle tank, PL-01 will be more of a mix of a apc./tank with high mobility and great camo:
youtube.com/watch?v=wlLqdFsMnCE

and yes it will be great despite the memes.

Hope Netherlands get the army spendings up, future dosn't look as bright as 10 years or so ago.

Ian Bell
Ian Bell

T-90

how fucked are we?

Noah Bailey
Noah Bailey

You should have it by the year 2050.

Juan White
Juan White

0/10 if you can turn on SHTORA
3/10 if you can't

Jason Allen
Jason Allen

Our military does like it's gadgets.

We have new patrol boats. Proper anti-missile boats that are part of the missile defense shield.
Our first Joint Strike Fighters are coming in.
And of course our good old apaches and patriot missiles.

Our military is purchasing some MQ-9 Reaper drones to play with.

Jacob Foster
Jacob Foster

We're pretty much an American base with American bread and butter equipment.

Adam Thompson
Adam Thompson

Your vipers are p sweet bruh

Logan Davis
Logan Davis

What does your average russian think of the pak fa shitshow?

Does the media even cover it?

Xavier Jenkins
Xavier Jenkins

does the russia media cover negative subjects about russia
think before you ask stupid questions

Dominic Lopez
Dominic Lopez

Forgive me, I'm a burger

Austin Torres
Austin Torres

pak fa shitshow
what habbened with it?

Blake Perry
Blake Perry

Well recently you guys lost India as a potential buyer, as India just purchased 36 Rafale and will most likely purchase more.

Wyatt Mitchell
Wyatt Mitchell

Nothing, which is really the issue.

You guys really need to stop building Su-34s and 35s and shit and throw everything into the PAK FA basket to get it moving.

Luke Bell
Luke Bell

recently? I thought it was like half year ago

Cooper Johnson
Cooper Johnson

I'm sorry for lashing out

Alexander Bennett
Alexander Bennett

India was always going to purchase the Rafale, it doesn't have much to do with the PAK FA purchase.

The issue is India reduced their investment on the project, which is making it harder to complete. They're still planning to buy it i'm pretty sure.

Joshua Evans
Joshua Evans

It was in talks. But the deal was actually signed this past Friday

Parker Ramirez
Parker Ramirez

I really don't even see why they're building more.

Syria?

Hudson Lee
Hudson Lee

Something to replace older aircraft.

Andrew Cook
Andrew Cook

We got our own, tho it's heavily based off a Russian one

Owen Jenkins
Owen Jenkins

Leopard is good. Especially when you can couple of them for peanuts :)

Brandon Butler
Brandon Butler

instead of the based Challenger II

It's not just you guys, no one likes buying British military stuff

Henry Foster
Henry Foster

No point in buying the Challenger unless it gets a smoothbore gun.

Kevin Jenkins
Kevin Jenkins

Merkava > Challenger > Leopard

prove me wrong faggot

Aaron Phillips
Aaron Phillips

Saudis love our shit

Gavin Rivera
Gavin Rivera

Merkava > Challenger > Leopard>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>M1 Abrams

Dont foget your domestic tank senpai

Nathaniel Sanchez
Nathaniel Sanchez

Yeah that's the best we can do, the Saudis. Depressing. Meanwhile our "traditional friends" like Canada and Australia avoid our stuff like the plague

tfw no one likes you anymore

Jackson Hill
Jackson Hill

Literally the best MBT though

Mason Wood
Mason Wood

hating on the abrams

m1a1 literally raised the bar for armored warfare. Most modern tanks are based on a similar chassis except for the eastern europe/warsaw pact ones

Jason Gutierrez
Jason Gutierrez

Pls do not bully the abrams

Julian Foster
Julian Foster

It just makes more sense to buy American for Canada and Australia. Canadian and American defense are integrated at pretty much every level, and America would be Australia main military ally if any shit went down. It only makes sense to share commonality on as many things as possible. It's not really a knock against British equipment.

Lincoln Myers
Lincoln Myers

The most battle tested modern MBT
Somehow the worst

???

Andrew Thomas
Andrew Thomas

Merkava is a piece of shit though.
still believing in sloped armour
TOP KEK

Connor Cook
Connor Cook

Trophy active protection system
Engine used as extra Layer or armor
Made in the capital shtetl
What's not to love?

Joshua Howard
Joshua Howard

jews

Asher Rivera
Asher Rivera

que?

Ryder Mitchell
Ryder Mitchell

OKAY GAYS ITS TIME FOR ANIME

Nicholas Rivera
Nicholas Rivera

Yfw Canada sells more military equipment to the Saudis than the UK

Lmao

Jace Jackson
Jace Jackson

merkava is 100% sex

Jace Nelson
Jace Nelson

YES

Elijah Sanchez
Elijah Sanchez

Yfw Canada sells more military equipment to the Saudis than the UK

No you don't. See

UK is the top exporter to Saudi, followed by the US. Then France is a distant 3rd. What does Canada sell to them?

Matthew Rodriguez
Matthew Rodriguez

Holy fuck worst korea loves our shit

Elijah Murphy
Elijah Murphy

They don't really have a choice. Countries like South Korea, Australia, Canada, Japan, who are ultra-dependent on the USA are politically forced into buying American gear

Cooper Howard
Cooper Howard

No bully

Charles Jackson
Charles Jackson

The Burke Swarm can't be stopped.

William Sanders
William Sanders

Not wanting German steel
Not wanting the successor of the Tiger and Panther tank

fucking niggers

Carter Evans
Carter Evans

Is it a tank or ifv?

Lincoln Peterson
Lincoln Peterson

I wouldn't say it's political. It's only practical to have complete interoperability with your main military ally.

Nathan Lewis
Nathan Lewis

Italy has good girls but bad tanks

Landon Jackson
Landon Jackson

Australia has 40 tanks max, I wouldn't give a damn about what the ADF (pretend army) buys

Adam Wright
Adam Wright

KATYUSHA BEST GIRL

Dylan Thompson
Dylan Thompson

It'd be hilarious if it was actually the greatest tank of all time and Italy just spent all this time making sure no one talked about it.

Justin Ramirez
Justin Ramirez

Bit rude

Why are the jews so rude?

Carter Sanchez
Carter Sanchez

Not even the best pravda

Sebastian Perry
Sebastian Perry

f-fuck off u stupid paki pedo!

Blake Phillips
Blake Phillips

I wouldn't say it's political. It's only practical to have complete interoperability with your main military ally.

It's not practical to be completely dependent on them though. An alliance with the USA is one isolationist President away from useless. It's a good alliance to invest in regardless, but it's stupid to put all your eggs in one basket. Don't fool yourself, these things are always political. The USA isn't a charity. In return for alliance you have to support US industry.

Hudson Adams
Hudson Adams

gives vital information to a nazi fetishist
best

Henry Fisher
Henry Fisher

postin best tank ever

Ian Rodriguez
Ian Rodriguez

Planes are cuter.

Oliver Gomez
Oliver Gomez

But they dont have big boobies. No boobies no life!

Brayden Gonzalez
Brayden Gonzalez

I am an Australian expat. I know how underwhelming your army is.

Michael Bailey
Michael Bailey

At least they aren't Canada

David Thompson
David Thompson

your
Yeah right Shlomo, you're just being rude

Kayden Wilson
Kayden Wilson

But they are not as fun to talk about because you assholes ended our jet program.

Justin Cook
Justin Cook

Australia is a big island so you should be looking at the navy and air force, not the army. The army is irrelevant.

Bentley Thompson
Bentley Thompson

?

Hudson Parker
Hudson Parker

Bruh, I used to live in brisbane, anstead. Postcode 4070. I went to high school in kenmore state high and went to primary school in Belmont state school (we moved house because the high school of the catchment area, whites hill, is shit) I can eben sing the first two lines of tje real Australian anthem(waltzing matilda)

Jack Miller
Jack Miller

The Pres doesn't have as much power as you think.

Plus Trump released his actual military spending points and he wants to up commitment not lessen it. Which goes against what he actually says because he's a lying sack of shit, but there you go.

Justin Howard
Justin Howard

All memes aside this tank is GOAT

Also stop hating on Leo

David Nelson
David Nelson

this is not healthy

Benjamin Stewart
Benjamin Stewart

Also this thing is great

Josiah Edwards
Josiah Edwards

Ah yes of course very convincing, none of this is readily accessible with a single google search

Stop being rude

Cameron Nelson
Cameron Nelson

shut up and go into gulag pidorashque

Lucas Hill
Lucas Hill

In foreign policy the President is quite powerful. I didn't base my post only on the possibility of Trump but also on the historical record, such as post WW1 when the US turned insular again.

The USA because of its size is one of the few powers that can *afford* to be isolationist. So whereas for the UK that would be suicide, for the US it's an actual option. If the President and the American people are thinking along the same lines, i.e. "tired of being policeman now", then the games up. That's it.

Ryder Peterson
Ryder Peterson

Your tea is a shit!

Kayden Parker
Kayden Parker

W-why, Russia?

Julian Jackson
Julian Jackson

Because indians piss into it in revenge for occupation

Logan Jenkins
Logan Jenkins

True, but I don't think a country should really base it's decisions off something which probably won't happen. If you can't base your decisions off of 60+ years of fairly consistent policy what can you base them off of?

Plus, at least for Canada, we can't really be isolationist with them anyways.

Brayden Lee
Brayden Lee

Seems what i am out of pics from that journal, but i also have some ww2 styled animu soviet tanks if some1interdasted.

Hudson Foster
Hudson Foster

Leopard 1A5BR.

Kinda useless for our lands.

Dylan Edwards
Dylan Edwards

You better be lying

Noah Campbell
Noah Campbell

What is interesting is that your APC Namer is probably the single most well armorued land vehicle in existence. It's a Merkava with the turret removed and extra armor added to it. A few years some were struck by multiple Kornet ATGM's and not only sustained no casualties but continued operating. Amazing, and I consider myself an anti semite.

Easton Cooper
Easton Cooper

forget about silly tanks
what is your cunt's main mechanized engineering equipment piece?

Levi Clark
Levi Clark

Here i am with my gf. Look into my eyes, how i can lie?

Adam Bailey
Adam Bailey

Catalan independence

Oh shush. I feel truly sorry for ethnic Catalans that against secession.

Jeremiah Brooks
Jeremiah Brooks

I don't think a country should really base it's decisions off something which probably won't happen.

Of course but you also shouldn't totally depend on the idea that it will never happen, because if it does happen you're screwed. Majority of the past 60 years was the Cold War which forced the US to be involved in a global ideological struggle. Nowadays things have changed

Plus, at least for Canada, we can't really be isolationist with them anyways.
Yeah that's true. Well they hardly have any sovereignty left at this point.

Ayden Baker
Ayden Baker

why is she so cute bros?

Connor Jackson
Connor Jackson

Well fuck it still tastes great though

Ryan Price
Ryan Price

The fact that Belmont ss headed by mr seawrighte in 2010. With sporting houses jilka, canara, nankin, arunta, all named after local aboriginal names of birds is not easily accessible on google. The fact that this year, the summit climb of mt tibrogargan in the glasshouse mountains was shut down because a 17 yeat old bitch fell down the mountain is not easily accessible by Google. The fact that the maroons are 100 times better than the blues is not easily accessible by google.
The Australian navy is an over glorified form of border control.

Blake Cruz
Blake Cruz

Chinar is ripping off the Stryker BCT concept, calling it 'big eight wheels' units

Ian King
Ian King

Chase Sanchez
Chase Sanchez

Too expensive probably.

Luis Edwards
Luis Edwards

You can see her soul screaming in her eyes

Christian Foster
Christian Foster

hahaha, can you imagine stupid gooks still drink green tea hahahaha

James Howard
James Howard

The Australian navy is an over glorified form of border control.

I suppose the same can be said of all navies without a decent SSN

William Collins
William Collins

Again this is all stuff easily ripped from google
not easily accessible by google
lel you must think I'm a foreigner as well
You're a dirty rude jew lad

Asher Jenkins
Asher Jenkins

It's honestly not that great of a vehicle. They're cutting down the numbers on it pretty hard. The 30mm is what will be giving them firepower in the future, it's a more solid concept.

The Australian navy is an over glorified form of border control.

They're getting mini-Burkes though.

Mason Collins
Mason Collins

Today I learned F-16 pilots and ground crew call it the "Viper" and not "Falcon"

Noice.

Easton Gutierrez
Easton Gutierrez

leopard 2A- is better than challenger desu
t.played wargame: red dragon

Juan Smith
Juan Smith

hahaha yeah stupid gooks
*hides green tea he's currently drinking*

Benjamin Sanchez
Benjamin Sanchez

B-but, muh CROWS

Isaac Russell
Isaac Russell

Why "challenger" never visit "challenges" anymore? I mean they bring it to tank challenge once, take last place and never cum back xD

Christian Gutierrez
Christian Gutierrez

wtf is wrong with you

Caleb Lee
Caleb Lee

this
T72BU superior Russian engineering
Challenger 2 dumb anglo monkey engineering

Andrew Martin
Andrew Martin

Find me one link online that says that jilka is the abo name for a rooster, arunta is the abo name for a cockatoo, canara is the abo name for a magpie (like the one cunt that swooped me everyday on my bike ride to school while i was in belmont, but you can't fight back because of retarded natural wildlife laws.)
Ps they are carindale abos, the name will obviously be different in whatever city you live in

John Hughes
John Hughes

alrighty my proxyhohol friends, i have to go sleep now 7:11 morning here hehehe ;( hope we all gonna die in nuclear blast soon enough!

James Lopez
James Lopez

grandpapencil.net/austral/abword/abplace.htm

Tyler Robinson
Tyler Robinson

I like the taste. Plus there's less caffeine so it's better for late night tea

Angel Kelly
Angel Kelly

To be honest, track back to the "original" 8 wheels can be a problem.

Blake Cooper
Blake Cooper

t-72bu is not exist irl. t-72 is cheap version of t-64, and t-64 is upgrade for t-62. t-62 and t-64 has been devoloped in kharkiv (ukraine). Russia steal ukranian tech! %%turret-throwers (aka t-62 -- t-90 series) is cheap shit to fight ungo-dungo africa tier rebels, nod real modern army%%

Dylan Fisher
Dylan Fisher

Sweet dreams russian anime poster

John Wright
John Wright

{postin frum phone} what do you guys think about this kind of tea? i really enjoy it but that little pieces which is always infiltrate throw my tea strainer make my butt hurt. Tastes kind of similar to black tea with lemon.
luv u 2 <3

Hunter Baker
Hunter Baker

Not a big fan of fruity teas desu

Xavier Diaz
Xavier Diaz

SU-34 and SU-35 are excellent aircraft.

Adam Butler
Adam Butler

That is rose. Flower, not fruit.

Henry Diaz
Henry Diaz

You had to have the word arunta to have that link.
Another point, I watched and read tomorrow when the war began(the movie not the even shittier abc3 show)
I have horrible memories of the block and scottys retarded fat face
Friendlyjordies doesn't do enough yilmaz
Lamingtons from woolies taste shit
Coles car insurance quote ads look retarded
That guy from the liberals ad was not a real tradies
Fuck you I lived in aus

Liam Baker
Liam Baker

They are but are they good enough for the future? I don't see them as being survivable against American and Chinese 5th gen aircraft or against advanced 4th gen like the Typhoon and Rafale that will be carrying weapons like Meteor. I get their need to have new airframes but the PAK FA is their chance to be competitive into the future, it should have priority for them.

Caleb Lee
Caleb Lee

we got leo 2a6 and leo 2a4,the a6 are obviously in the frontline and it is said they are good

youtube.com/watch?v=L-dX2KuUg58

Noah Collins
Noah Collins

K2 Black Panther

Elijah Martinez
Elijah Martinez

Anime about middle schoolers driving tanks? What the fuck is this shit?

Isaiah King
Isaiah King

What MBT does you're country use?
shitty soviet tier turret thrower aka T-72

John Allen
John Allen

It's not like you guys will ever have to use them.

I mean do you guys have any actual enemies?

And not just meme ones.

Connor Kelly
Connor Kelly

What did you expect? Chinese can't invent anything for themselves nowadays ironically.

Daniel Carter
Daniel Carter

t14 soon vatnik!

Carter Stewart
Carter Stewart

Prob the best tank in the world now desu

Juan Cox
Juan Cox

Venezuela is potential. Also Argentina been kinda a rival on influence in the area, they lost, but still a threat for that, we need to dickwave as much as possible.

But we also have our interests, like keep the amazon safe from any invasion and oil and resources on the sea.

People here do think like you, that's why it beame so underfunded over the years.

Charles Johnson
Charles Johnson

Poland modded T-72
It passed the trials at least.
And comes with some horses for some reason.

Carter Wright
Carter Wright

Abrams are useless in actual warfare that involves fighting another nation.

Compared to the Leo 2, the Abrams have half the operation time before mandatory service check has to be conducted, it's also much, MUCH heavier than the other MBT's.

When Norway bought their MBT's the choice was between Leo 2 and Abrams. The Abrams lost simply how much maintenance it requires compared to the Leo 2.

Every NATO wargame I've been to where the US army or the US marines are involved we've had to have a break for a full day because of the Abrams needing their maintenance check.

Joseph Allen
Joseph Allen

Intercontinental strategic turret laucher. That's why exactly Russia need thouthands of T-xy tanks with autoloaders.

Benjamin Adams
Benjamin Adams

T-90 are taking hits and surviving tho.

Oliver Russell
Oliver Russell

I guess that's why the Abrams performed so poorly in the Gulf war/ & Iraq War.

Oh wait..

Nolan Peterson
Nolan Peterson

90, compared to 72B have slightly different turret and exactly same hull. Its real name/designation is 72BU, which had changed by Yeltzing in 1990s.

Cooper Reyes
Cooper Reyes

Has the Leo taken part in tank wars against another nation?

I really don't know

The Abraham's have. Did pretty well.

David Parker
David Parker

but we have only 350 T-90 in service while having thousands of T-72

Landon Watson
Landon Watson

then why are there so few nations buying your superior tank then?
Only ones I can think of right now are South Korea, and they're only eating out of your ass because of North Korea and China.

Xavier Thompson
Xavier Thompson

Nope, they had bought US tanks for US bank loans :D

Zachary Butler
Zachary Butler

Did pretty well.
Yemen
Iraq
sure

Landon Clark
Landon Clark

Abrams are useless in actual warfare that involves fighting another nation.

This has to be bait. The Abrams is one the most battle-tested designs still in use, fighting in both conventional conflicts --ie Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom -- and asymmetric conflicts -- ie Afghanistan and the Iraqi insurgency.

Jacob Martin
Jacob Martin

Can't they just take the T-72 and update them to T-90MS? or Just T90. Or there is already a modernized version of the T-72?

Camden Smith
Camden Smith

Yeah, and ironically, the U.S. government invent nearly every war with these fancy weapons "for" the world since when, like 1980s? LOL, lovely narcissistic people.

Dylan Butler
Dylan Butler

I don't know.

But when the Leo performs like the Abraham's in 73 Easing then you'll have some kind of point.

Kevin Hill
Kevin Hill

Lost to ours tho.

Chase King
Chase King

Please elaborate on why it is inferior. And don't use maintenance as a point when we both know the US has the logistics to operate it en masse.

The Abrams is a very combat proven tank.

Jason Lee
Jason Lee

Just because military budgets are not limitless.
Speaking tanks, 90s seem to be discontinued shortly, as T14 arrive to service.

Cooper Thompson
Cooper Thompson

Easting

Logan Mitchell
Logan Mitchell

I know that, i mean like modernize part of it, nor entire regiments.

T-15 is pure sex though.

Asher Ramirez
Asher Ramirez

I will give it to you Hues, you can make sexy war machines when you put your mind to it.

Josiah Perez
Josiah Perez

MFW Stryker is just a AMV ripoff

Luis Flores
Luis Flores

T-Thanks...

Chase Myers
Chase Myers

Forgot to say - 90s have modified electronics.
These things are expensive to build and very easy to lose against "allah-babakhs" with RPG, shooting unprotected tank parts.
In fact, rear and side armor of 90MS are equal to base 72 (built 1974). Even with dynamic defence, tank still have its unprotected parts.
So, I think, ministry of defence just find it unneccessary.

Jace Martin
Jace Martin

because of China? Interesting, North Korea is dangerous, that's true. China? Gimme a reason that China would be a threat to South Korea.

James Evans
James Evans

ministry of defence just find it unneccessary.
sure burying guys is cheaper than making a proper protection

Josiah Bennett
Josiah Bennett

But Jordan bought some of them, so they're still gona be built.

Also why Shtora failed in Syria?

Nathan Young
Nathan Young

Not buying our Abrams
Hey remember that time you guys brunt down the white house? It's really starting to come back to me.

Leo Young
Leo Young

slav
talking shit about making bad tanks

Dylan Cox
Dylan Cox

korean
buying shitty murrican tanks and sucking murrican dicks

Owen Gomez
Owen Gomez

implying we dont have slav tanks too.
These are fucking deathtraps. in the korean army they send the lowest of the low to man these.

Leo Williams
Leo Williams

burying guys
lmao
AFAIR shtora useless against TOW-2A, and rebels have a lot of that snacks.

Mason Roberts
Mason Roberts

It's shitty but Vatnik cant explain why

Wyatt Torres
Wyatt Torres

Well, they have any plans to update the system?

youtube.com/watch?v=yYZBmneB5BY

Video is the same tank i posted first, survived, but the system failed.

Hunter Price
Hunter Price

In fact, 72, 80 and 90 have no deathraps, it's just turret active armor blocks forming such shape shape. Real turret armor looks like

Maybe, if Ass sad find money to buy these.

Nathaniel Ward
Nathaniel Ward

tfw your cunt once field tested these newer 60-70ton behemoths and the Challenger 2 came out on top
the M1A2 sunk in the mud and eats fuel like no other
the Leo2 that was brought here got its tracks derailed after humping the muddy countryside and sunk multiple times
the K1 never sunk but was kill when it was traversing knee deep water, they claimed it was just a """technical glitch"""
the T-84 sunk deep in the mud but breezed through the river like a boss
then the C2 just fucked off like nothing and even moved after being submerged into meme tropical flood water
then the reality sunk in that ships and planes are more needed than tanks
even used MRAPs from the Middle East are more viable
my gubmint paid millions of dollars to these countries for a dog and pony show

Christopher Walker
Christopher Walker

I don't believe Assad had the money to pay for the T90's, BTR and the Yakovlevs.

Brody Stewart
Brody Stewart

ever heard of something called korean war?
china is the very reason why the peninsular is divided today in the first place.

Asher Nguyen
Asher Nguyen

Main
Battle
Tank

Joshua Foster
Joshua Foster

They do not call it "war" at all.
And in addiction to billion of Chinese "volunteers", they had Soviet pilot Li Si Tzin with nuclear bomb at runway. That really could lead to a nuclear war, so everyone had shit his pants and returned both Koreas to pre-war state.

Jeremiah Long
Jeremiah Long

Actually we have 59 :^)

I don't get why everyone shits on our military and I'm not talking just internationally, it's the media's favourite punching bag too. We're constantly expanding it and have excellent integration with NATO and American military assets, it's not like we just have a few battalions of mounted emu cavalry anymore. We're never going to be a military superpower but it's more than adequate for Australia's needs, at least for the moment.

Oliver Mitchell
Oliver Mitchell

But everyone does this kind of tests before making a decision.
youtube.com/watch?v=W6KvCj7_bMk

Hudson Russell
Hudson Russell

Isn't China or Indonesia a threat?

Jacob Hughes
Jacob Hughes

yes, those are the main reasons for its existence

Cameron Anderson
Cameron Anderson

Honestly your mil isn't bad.

IF you really want to shit on some cunt's military, look at Canada.

Josiah Moore
Josiah Moore

2016
still using metal carriages

its better to invest in flying objects and fire arrows

Juan Sanders
Juan Sanders

Idk much about Indonesia's military, are they strong?

Carter Turner
Carter Turner

Why have a military when the Americas will defend you for free?

Jason Hernandez
Jason Hernandez

I don't know anything about Indonesia except that it's a nice place for a holiday, you could try comparing equipment on wikipedia though

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Defence_Force

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_National_Armed_Forces

Carter Wood
Carter Wood

Fug

Nathan Russell
Nathan Russell

Indonesia a threat
The distance to Melbourne/Sydney/Canberra is 10000km+ , they don't have the logistics to reach there while under air attack.
The SEA regional power in terms of equipment would be Thailand,Singapore and Vietnam.
Only Singapore and Thailand have network centric warfare at the moment.

Elijah Johnson
Elijah Johnson

They seem stronger in numbers, but equipment you guys have the advantage.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Indonesian_Army

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weaponry_of_the_Australian_Army

Nolan Cox
Nolan Cox

I don't know why people just excuse the Soviet Union for its part in any of this. Maybe because they don't exist anymore and Cred Forums is a bunch of Russiaboos. If you're country was in a similar position of power don't be fooled into thinking you would have acted much different. Every country makes mistakes.

Aiden Jenkins
Aiden Jenkins

I thought Australian-Indonesia war is more likely.

Connor Green
Connor Green

Yeah, let the Americans decide everything in Asia like they've tried in the 1940s and 1950s. "China is the very reason", haha, interesting.

Hunter Scott
Hunter Scott

Why would Chinese be a threat to Aussies? Is there any reason for them to invade that continent far away in the southern hemisphere?I mean, you guys really like to use the word "threat"

Gavin Nguyen
Gavin Nguyen

Doesn't China wants to expand like they're doing in the Sea?

China wants to expand it's influence a lot now,

Hudson Green
Hudson Green

Actually that's very unlikely, both countries are constantly flinging shit at each other but it's mostly about retarded Australian drug smugglers getting hanged and immigration policies. The closest we came to war was in 63-66 when Australian forces helped our Commonwealth bros out in Malaysia since the Indos were trying to annex them, and again when we invaded East Timor to stop a genocide

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia–Malaysia_confrontation

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_East_Timorese_crisis

Daniel Barnes
Daniel Barnes

I see. Something similar with Paraguay here, but they're weak as fuck.

Nice tho, but since they're muslims, there are no danger of a terror attack?

inb4 someone: but user #NotAllMuslims

Matthew Sullivan
Matthew Sullivan

There's always that danger with M*slims, they killed 88 Australians in Bali

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings

Brayden Lewis
Brayden Lewis

2 Brazilian died

Fuckers...

Kinda have to be careful when you're flinginf shit with a Muslim country. Shit like that can happen.

Ryan Thompson
Ryan Thompson

A country with the size like China surely expends, however, "crowded" as the Asia is, any kind of action, no matter significant or insignificant, could be seen as a "threat". I won't blame you for being too sensitive, but when the U.S. do something like sending their aircraft carriers and destroyers to South China Sea, you can't blame the Chinese for building up their own fleet to defend themselves against the "friendly non-threatening" western countries, right?

Logan Jenkins
Logan Jenkins

I can blame them for building artificial islands in international territory, and generally acting like cunts to every single other country in Asia

Nicholas Sanchez
Nicholas Sanchez

You're right. But still, China "expansion" is kinda seen as a threat to the west and asia as well.

Don't forget they also fling shit with India as well.

Daniel Robinson
Daniel Robinson

They already took care of that, hasn't been large scale attacks for a long time now.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detachment_88
Pretty much all the expert bombmakers dating back to Afghan war trained by CIA are already dead or in jail, nowdays its just small groups with illegal guns.

Aiden Kelly
Aiden Kelly

Noice. There aren't many ASEANs in ISIS now, right?

Angel Brown
Angel Brown

defend themselves against the "friendly non-threatening" western countries, right?

You know that Korea and Japan are affected by Chinese hegemony the most, right? America might be a bad boss sometimes but it's in your country's best interest to resist Chinese power as much as possible

Parker Butler
Parker Butler

Really? "Cunts"? Then tell me what did they do to you, dear. Wonder where your hatred comes from. Teach me with some facts, I will be glad to hear.

Aiden Howard
Aiden Howard

I'm glad that I could speak to someone calm and rational... You see, rather than "expansion", "return" would be a more appropriate term for this.
As far as the Indo-sino war thing, Nehru should be partly responsible for his judgement error that he could usurp some territory from the newly born PRC.

Cameron Brooks
Cameron Brooks

We don't get involved with middle east shitflinging so we don't get as much flak as Yurop althought there might be a few dozens at most in Syria or Iraq.
A few jobbers good enough for some keks.
ISIS makes call to arms
Literally 10 guys turn up
Guy called Jedi calls the special branch head from Syria to deliver death threats.
Special branch head rekts his entire cell a week later.
3 whole years of planning to get some expired Thai grenade, a handgun and 24 bullets.
Police didn't even kill anyone, just jumps them in their jungle shack and whacks everyone.
Mostly its just your average island bandits, pirates and kidnappers claiming to be ISIS to spook people into paying ransom but so long as crime pays these people will always be around anyway.

Mason Reed
Mason Reed

Yeah, I agree with you on Korea and Japan are affected by China, and I think resist only exists when you want to combat with someone, right? But the last thing we hope is another war in SEA like it once happened last century. Therefore, what I want to say is that Bosses have their matters, but please solve those peacefully, not with weapons and fleets and words like "threats" won't help much.

Nicholas Bailey
Nicholas Bailey

kek.

We had just one fighters and he wasn't actually muslim, just a angry edgy kid. Got killed in a barrel bomb

John Hill
John Hill

korea feels comfortable with chinese domination and hegemony after all, it's inseparable nature of their culture and ethnic value grown over two millennia

Liam Thompson
Liam Thompson

We modded the living shit out of every tank we have, even the Leos.

Jaxson Ortiz
Jaxson Ortiz

India's still buying it. They are just nagging about it.

Ethan Myers
Ethan Myers

Haven't we got really really good armour though that only we use?

Bentley Watson
Bentley Watson

France stole our tank industry.
These threads trigger me now.

Ian Lewis
Ian Lewis

this exists

youtube.com/watch?v=regl4vTld5E

Japs are off their heads.

Kevin Gonzalez
Kevin Gonzalez

Be indian
Buy rafales for over200000000 usd

Camden Rivera
Camden Rivera

Could be worse
theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/our-french-submarine-builder-in-massive-leak-scandal/news-story/3fe0d25b7733873c44aaa0a4d42db39e
Scorpene used by Brazil,India, Malaysia and Chile
Feels cucked man, there is also 6 stealth frigates ordered from the same company.
Buying French was a mistake.

Ryan Smith
Ryan Smith

Yeah, I bet there is a hidden technology transfer in the deal, like in the deal we almost made with Brazil.

Camden Kelly
Camden Kelly

What do you know about operating tanks? Do you command, maintain or drive a Leopard 2?

Hudson Perry
Hudson Perry

It's just diplomatic reason tbhdesu

Jose Roberts
Jose Roberts

You mean: you have been forced to leave the Renault factories after the war?

Grayson Lewis
Grayson Lewis

I like merkava, it look really cool.

Parker Rivera
Parker Rivera

b-but it's not real tank!

Brandon Howard
Brandon Howard

Do people in your country like the new tank T-14 Armata? it looks like a toy more than a tank ( still looking good though ) .

James Lee
James Lee

tr-85 M1 "the bison"

Oliver Brown
Oliver Brown

Leo 2 and recently we got some M1 decommissioned from Iraq.

Samuel Cruz
Samuel Cruz

Thank you nethercucks for cheap Leopards we will put them to good use

Dylan Sanchez
Dylan Sanchez

אני חושב שהוא בכוונה מנסה לעצבן אותך.

Andrew Cox
Andrew Cox

t-72b3 is on same lvl with t-90a
2k16
still making hitler mistakes
top kek
youtube.com/watch?v=fVg6gFmuRlE

Austin Long
Austin Long

file name
more like shooting gallery

Gabriel Perez
Gabriel Perez

Leopard 2A5

It seems like a pretty good tank, but I'm still not entirely happy about it. We could have gone with our own design with a 140mm gun and a coaxial Bofors 40mm autocannon, but someone who was clearly dead inside and never even had a soul to start with chose the Leopard 2 instead.

Connor Morales
Connor Morales

Engine does not add any protection in the real world. Any shot that penetrates the thin hull armor will slice through the engine with ease. It's not made of armor grade steel.
Having the engine on the front is a pretty bad decision altogether. It makes hull armor thinner by design, as you need it thin enough to be able to access the engine for maintenance.
The merkava isn't garbage though, there's good features.
Being able to carry infantry can be useful if you can create a doctrine that benefits from it
turret armor is strong, and overall HEAT protection is top of the line at the expense of KE protection
LAHAT
Trophy

It makes sense for Israel, as their main threat is infantry RPGs and ATGMs. It's not the optimal choice for spanking Arab armies in the field, but the immeasurably superior crew training and support assets should benefit it. Arabs still can't drive a tank to save their lives and most of their inventory is crap

Tl;dr It's a tank created for Israeli conditions, not for anywhere else

Josiah Wright
Josiah Wright

We have T-72, T-80 and T-90. Soon we will have T-14 (aka armata).

Brayden Martin
Brayden Martin

140mm

Nice nice

Camden Hernandez
Camden Hernandez

the americans forced us to sell it to them.

Ryder Nelson
Ryder Nelson

Yeah I see the Abrams uses it. Well I hope we got a good deal.

John Richardson
John Richardson

We really need to sort out our relationship with the US. Pisses me off. Just hope our economy keeps improving in the long run, that is the only real foundation of strength

Nicholas Powell
Nicholas Powell

little island!

Jaxson Diaz
Jaxson Diaz

For you.

Austin Price
Austin Price

w-we s-still use T72s...

Benjamin Cooper
Benjamin Cooper

Big shithole

Landon Hernandez
Landon Hernandez

haha butthurt!xD

Dylan Price
Dylan Price

Does Russian doctrine still dictate that tanks should be smaller and only shorter people should be tankers?

Kayden Martinez
Kayden Martinez

Oh, you!

Luis Nguyen
Luis Nguyen

All this gen tanks looks like a toys

James Ramirez
James Ramirez

Not a tank but posting anyway

Noah Torres
Noah Torres

Does Libya have an official military?

Nathan Flores
Nathan Flores

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_National_Army

Jace Turner
Jace Turner

gee i wonder how it looks like

Tyler Nelson
Tyler Nelson

muh 40mm telescoped cannon

Levi Hernandez
Levi Hernandez

google it yourself
it's not impressive but it managed to have ISIS beg for mercy

Levi Reyes
Levi Reyes

still using T34s

jesus Libya

Jack Morris
Jack Morris

the only vehicle I'd ever be interested in being a crew member in really is one of our LAV-25s, even though they're pretty thin
It's like 5th on my choice of infantry MOS's I'm going to try and get out of boot camp and ITB

Logan Wright
Logan Wright

Were you in it? And did you fight in the civil war?

Julian Hernandez
Julian Hernandez

Quite sexy I like it.

Carter Morgan
Carter Morgan

based south korea with their tanks of pure murder

Anthony Cox
Anthony Cox

Our Army doesn't even HAVE an 8x8 vehicle but we're going to order one soonish I believe.

Bentley Ortiz
Bentley Ortiz

isn't that bad
Cheap rounds
Cheap maintenance
Armor can handle 14.7 mm ap
very simple

Brandon Nguyen
Brandon Nguyen

not joining your Brit and Aussies mates for a ride in the Jackal

Tyler Parker
Tyler Parker


LEAVE MEEE ALONEEE *runs away crying*
my brother fought in the first and I served for a few months in the second
during the first I helped with the scouts package food for refugees and for the army
in the second i joined the LNA on the secularists side

Caleb Gutierrez
Caleb Gutierrez

Sorry for helping to destabilise your country

Jayden Stewart
Jayden Stewart

You can spot the Yank a mile off at the back there with his sunglasses.

Nicholas Lewis
Nicholas Lewis

as you should be

Xavier Watson
Xavier Watson

give me asylum then

Blake Smith
Blake Smith

Convert to anything that isnt muslim then

Sebastian King
Sebastian King

I c-can't do that

Nolan Richardson
Nolan Richardson

He just said he was fighting on the secularists side in the war

Isaiah Clark
Isaiah Clark

I'm not muslim but most of the secularists side in the war is muslim just saying..
it's a 99% muslim country
im an ex durka fedora if youre wondering

Mason Parker
Mason Parker

I'm not muslim but most of the secularists side in the war is muslim just saying..

Oh I c

Yeah I suppose secularists just want religion separated from the politics

Jason Wood
Jason Wood

Is that the one based on our Pizarro? It looks nice

James Wright
James Wright

Yes. Same chassis but very different on the inside.

Benjamin Mitchell
Benjamin Mitchell

that makes sense, our first pizarros were deployed in 2002

Joshua Davis
Joshua Davis

The Army must have really liked it, because it even beat off competition from BAE Systems (which usually wins because it's a British company)

Andrew Anderson
Andrew Anderson

Remember that in any modern tank battle between developed countries, it would all be down to the skill and training of the crew. The invention of smoothbore and high velocity weapons and ammunition have made any tank armour next to useless against dedicated anti-armour weaponry, so it would only be down to the accuracy and combat skill of the crew in any engagement.

The reason the iraqi tanks were so devastated by the Abrams in the iraq war was because:
-inexperienced mudslime army trained in the third world
-using literal cold war era tanks against modern armour

Isaac White
Isaac White

The Black Panther looks like it's going to be a meme.

That's ballistic eye protection.

Leo Bailey
Leo Bailey

Why do we always have to buy krautshit?

Jonathan Ramirez
Jonathan Ramirez

Which should be the MBT for the future Catalan Republic? Would the Leclerc be a good choice?

NATO or EU membership or all alone?

If all alone, get a few super-cheap T-55 as OPFOR tanks only to train the infantry against them.
If NATO or EU, ask the Americans for some in-storage M1A1 Abrams for nearly free. They have thousands. Replace the 80's electronics with military off-the-shelf equipment, add an APU, get German HE and American APFSDS ammo. Then don't even try and fancy operational manoeuvres, but go for tank-infantry teams with a platoon of tanks partnering with an infantry company. With 1 tank and 2 infantry battalions per brigade that would leave 1/3 of MBTs in reserve or taking in new ammo.

Charles Perez
Charles Perez

m1a1 literally raised the bar for armored warfare.

It was hardly an improvement over Leopard 2 versions that arrived years earlier...the original M1 Abrams was undergunned and all Abrams without APU are horrible fuel guzzlers.

Jordan Howard
Jordan Howard

Russian tanks may be shit but their helis are sex

Jeremiah Stewart
Jeremiah Stewart

Going to be replaced by ALTAY soon.

Thomas Lee
Thomas Lee

Russian tanks are sex
Russian helis are sex
Russian ships are sex
Russian planes are sex
Russian guns are sex

Liam King
Liam King

But Russians aren't sex :^)

Xavier Walker
Xavier Walker

When someone insults your wife son

Jaxon Long
Jaxon Long

Heeeyyy

Justin Flores
Justin Flores

I don't see anything here.

Wyatt Parker
Wyatt Parker

for
u

Brody Powell
Brody Powell

Did you just admit defeat there?

Leo Lopez
Leo Lopez

It used to be called the "lawn dart" too.

Anthony Martinez
Anthony Martinez

The PRC is less than 100 years old. It's just a giant, hungry baby. Copying tech is just it learning how to walk. Once it gets back up on its feet will we begin see it return to the superpower it once was in ancient history.

Jaxon Brown
Jaxon Brown

Get out of my country you Russkie cunt

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