HOW DOES THIS COUNTRY ALWAYS MANAGE TO BE THE BAD GUY ON THE WRONG SIDE OF EVERY CONFLICT

France had the right idea after WWI, they wanted Germany to be split up into a bunch of puppet states.

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>bombing your own plants

Yeahh sure, because we all dont know what comes after that....

Well it made sense after wwI, you were only united for 50 years, many germans alive knew life in a non united germany.

repaired

I can't read this you goofup.

see

>responsible for 30 years war and both world wars
>both world wars
>both

LMAO

and long years before the war...

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Only to maintain balance in europe to stop France from being too powerful.

>bad guys
>evil

They're just the evil ones because they lost.

>Hitler
Drug addict, had sexual relations with his niece

>Roehm
Fat, faggot

>Goring
Morbidly obese, owned a luxurious estate where he participated in obscene orgies

>Dirlewanger
Pedophile, led a batallion of gypsies, POWs, mental patients and convicted rapists who participated in monumental savagery

>Himmler
Wewuzian pagan occultist, muslim lover

>Heydrich
Absolute beta who was bullied in school, looked like a Jew to the point other kids called him a kike when he was a schoolboy

>Goebbels
Physically deformed and sickly, also a manlet

>Kaltenbrunner
Serial adulterer

>Wessel
Lived together with a literal brothel whore, was most likely her pimp

>Mengele
Creepy sociopathic fuck

>Rosenberg
Another wewuzian pagan occultist who preached ""Positive Christianity"" with Nordic Jesus, planned to eliminate Christianity altogether (including banning the Bible and replacing all crucifixes with swastikas)
Was probably like 1/4th German too.

>Keitel
"His sycophancy was well known in the army, and he acquired the nickname 'Lakeitel', a pun on his name (in German, the word 'Lakai' means 'lackey')."
"General Ludwig Beck complained that he was incapable of giving Hitler the reality of the situations and was an extremely poor tactician whose decisions were motivated more by ensuring his own survival rather than that of the troops. Marshal Paul Ludwig Ewald von Kleist labeled him as nothing more than a "stupid follower of Hitler", and most commanders went out of their way to ignore his orders"

>Rust
"Considered by many to be mentally unstable, Rust would spuriously create new regulations and then repeal them just as quickly."
Also believed non-Aryans couldn't do science properly and trashed the theory of relativity etc

>Ribbentrop
Quite probably the worst diplomat in modern history, literally hated by everyone but Hitler because he was a master asskisser like Keitel.

This. You just have to google all this shit to know is true.

Are you a spic?

Oh yes, of course things like these are exclusive to the german...
I'm not trying to defend what they did or accuse other people of being the "real evil" ones, but using maniqueism to understand history is just dumb.

we will never know
I have a theological theory that god is playing a simulation game and loves blobbing and expanding as germany, once he gets bored and has to start a new save he completely destroys germany to start over again, germans obsession with simulation games and npc personalities are actually a manifestation of god.

You're talking to a Polack on Cred Forums. What were you expecting?

Goering was a morphine addict as well iirc

they learnt from the best

This. Really, you all should be grateful for the Anglo.

What happens if France is too powerful

>Germany or even the concept of a German nation existing in Antiquity

That was all the Americans though, not the Anglos.

Daily reminder that everything good America does is due to Anglo influence, and everything bad America does is due to non-Anglo influence.

Europe gets put on a diet consisting wholly of soft cheeses.

Luckily, we have been spared from knowing such horrors due solely to the kindness of the Eternal Saviour, the Anglo. However, we can only guess that a Europe in which the French are dominant would be one of chaos and suffering.

nothing, europe was more stable and successful until the germans and anglos became more powerful.

If shit hits the fan on that day I just hope some fascist warmonger doesn't come to power.
I don't want to be drafted to go fight in Europe.

This. We don't know no betta

rights for peasants, an end to absolutism, and the rise of freedoms

>responsible for destroying roman empire
I don't get this maymay, Rome was already in decline, they just finished them off

>Protestantism
>bad

And only the western roman empire collapsed, Rome continued for another 1000 years in the east.

thats basically why i like them

Protestantism is bad

>responsible for protestantism

That would be us ťbh

You are a cool guy glorious nippon, i like you too :3

Depends on the kind. Anyway, breaking up the religious monopoly (and all other kinds of monopolies) the Catholic church had was a good thing.

>responsible for protestantism
So what? Protestantism is less destructive than Catholicism.

>Protestantism is less destructive than Catholicism.
Look what happened to Sweden and Germany.

Migrats go there not because it's protestant but because it's more wishful places to live. And they don't go to Poland because it's less wishful place.

I never mentioned Poland anywhere.

It's exactly protestant shit that makes Niggers and Arabs "feel welcome" there. Society is weak and raised in a leftist ideology of bending over like a whore, instead of fighting.

german is the most common ancestry of white americans. really makes you think.

god isnt doing that, you are.

>I never mentioned Poland anywhere.
You wanted to say "We are catholics, we are better", don't you?
>Society is weak and raised in a leftist ideology of bending over like a whore, instead of fighting.
There is nothing wrong with kind and decent society, my chauvinistic slav. The problem is that their subsidies help refugees to live parasitically and hedonist.

>responsible for destroying roman empire
That's fucking awesome.

Romans were shit packers.

>he thinks religion plays any part in civilized politics
The few people who try to argue anything with religion get laughed out of the building, protestantism doesn't have anything to do with arabs feeling welcome

lmfao this is quite true

>push for a monetary union and gain control of other countries currencies
>knowing it will surely destroy the manufacturing abilities of your neighbors
>other countries buy your shit and end up having money flown out of their country
>become poor due to it and have to take on debts
>get punished for not repaying debts

germans are very clever people imo, they play victim when talking about incompetent PIGS economies but they have never not profited off of them.

pls not hillary
pls not hillary
pls not hillary

what's wrong with protestantism

Europe?

Low iq subhuman monkey

holocaust was pretty evil t b h
inb4 edgelords

Nothing

t. Lutheran

no fire
Catholicism is the only christian religious that had any fight in it(mostly due to them saying 'fuck it, we're making our own laws') and it was taken over by socialists

Simple. Germans are actually very romantic as a nation, always getting inspired for some idea, ignoring all who tell them it's retarded. Prussian supremacy, racial purity, welfare, anti-nuclear, immigrants, if it's dumb and impossible, odds are Germans are gonna love it.

Germans are also stubborn and refuse to admit they are wrong until their ideology bites them in the ass.

>Germans are also stubborn and refuse to admit they are wrong until their ideology bites them in the ass.

Even then they won't admit it, case in point: Merkel.

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I still think she's playing high risks realpolitik.
By that I mean, she realized that immigration would destroy Europe if it kept as it was — drip, drip, drip. The villagers didn't care when they were slowly drowned.

So she did the only sensible thing of opening the flood gates to get a reaction.

When it comes to Germans

bite in the ass = country ruined, have to rebuild

But so was the atomic bombings, the relocation of "misplaced Germans", the forced labor for German soldiers for several years after the war, the executions without any real trials, etc.
The Brazilian makes a pretty good point.

>>But so was the atomic bombings
wrong
> the forced labor for German soldiers for several years after the war,
Never happened, they stayed of their own free will because they were treated kindly and their country was a pile of rubble.

>welfare
>anti-nuclear
>impossible
explain.
[spoiler] i would have asked for the immigrants part, but this would let to a pol tier answer so didnt bother [/spoiler]

Thats what they deserved

>But so was the atomic bombings,
Their fault for having stupid 'never surrender' policies.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

>still in denial

>The few people who try to argue anything with religion get laughed out of the building
You're talking about atheists. There's something fundamentally broken about a community that venerates science while fucking MLP figures.

Haha.

Catholics are massive cucks. The pope sucks refugee dick.

modern Catholicism is
it was usurped by socialists in the late 50s

I don't get you lot, we get called perfidious but the Germans are openly cunts to everyone and you love them.

Freedom (TM) , seriously they were liberating the shit out of people the last time they got too strong.

France is a European America?

nah thats still GB

hungary

Roman empire was corrupt and decrepit, they deserved to fall
Austria and Serbia were responsible for WW1, France, Poland, and Russia were responsible for WW2 (inb4 butthurt poles, Stalin helped Hitler rise to power because he knew someday someone would stand up to the french bullies and their treaty, and he wanted Germany to fight Britain and France so they would exhaust themselves in another war, thereby opening the way to invade Europe and overtake the entire continent, eventually the world, literally every piece of actual evidence supports this. Poles were just faggots who brought it all on themselves with their constant dickery in the interwar years, fighting off russia was literally the only good thing p*les have ever done)
Protestantism is eh
JEWS were responsible for communism
YOU were responsible for the cold war and everything after, INCLUDING the migrant invasions and doing everything to help this cancerous, perverted, self-indulgent tumor of a culture grow. Why? Because when Germans kicked all of them out you welcomed them with open arms. All this cuck shit started in America and spread because of america

fucking anglos man I swear to god fucking anglos FUCK

Germans will be destroyed, don't worry, we're working on it

daily reminder that europe would be a hyperpower if the only country in it was germany

Don't touch our submarine dispenser.

Forgot to add, in the late part of the war p*les joined forces with Russians who were all too eager to rape polish women just like German women and the polish "men" actually stood back and let them do it like actual legit cuckolds, while at the same time throwing their lives away to germans

sez a yank

wake me up when americans will be known for their intelligence instead of obesity

pls stop bullying ;_;

>yank
Did you pick up that word when you were scrubbing uribinal in the UK?

I thought polacks called us westerners or capitalist dogs.

We don't like the pope. The only pope that we respected was John Paul II. the rest were always are enemies

>Polish flag
>a yank thinks that I'm in UK
typical yank intelligence

okay, I will stop, except that one faggot

thank you

no problem. I actually like americans, I just dislike jews for some reason

stupid kebab stalin could destroy germany but had no balls to did that. he was good only at killing russians.

I'll take that as a yes.

Probably because a Jew emptied his nut in your mom and left.

>I'll take that as a yes.
of course you do, you're too dumb to think otherwise, or any-wise

Germans are gods

I understand why blacks in the USA call white americans "white devils", because the majority of white people in the USA are of german descent. It all makes sense now

Anglo-Saxons are the worst of the germanic tribes though, worse even than prussians.

The Germans are our greatest ally in western Europe.

>responsible for 30 years war and both world wars
2nd world war was started by america, britain and thesoviets
>responsible for communism
Soviet russia
>germany is inherently evil and should be destroyed
Meanwhile the american govermenmt is behind every conflict, every war and even the flooding of europe with muslims. America is inherently evil and should be destroyed

t. victim of perfidy

gods of cuckdom

The surviving Anglo-Saxon leaders fled to Scandinavia. The Anglo-Saxon peasants migrated to the New World or died in various wars the UK fought.

There aren't any Germanics left in Britain. Modern brits are Celto-Iberian proles with gene malfunctions.

>Meanwhile the american govermenmt is behind every conflict, every war and even the flooding of europe with muslims. America is inherently evil and should be destroyed

america is a german country.

>anti-nuclear

I think he means Stalin's useful idiots during the cold war. But closing down comparatively more ecological nuclear powerplants instead of starting with coal ones and moving towards full renewables without fixing the power lines also wasn't a smart move.

And when it comes to immigrants, have you noticed the rise of AfD and signs of political instability not only in the Germany but in the whole Europe lately caused by your country's very poor managment of these immigrants?

>There aren't any Germanics left in Britain. Modern brits are Celto-Iberian proles with gene malfunctions.

modern genetics begs to differ. the english are about 30% anglo saxon.

>2nd world war was started by america, britain and thesoviets

**side-eye intensifies**

No. Brits have unstable genes, that's why it's malfunctioning.

>powerplants
Closing "ecological powerplants" didnt do any harm so far. yes we need to expand the power line network in a short amount of time. but this is the fault of people who should have known better for decades. STILL it had worked so far and it will work in the future.

>instability+afd
yes i noticed and i acknowledge the problems. But this doesnt mean everything has failed and the EU will be a future caliphat. europe has suffered far more dangererous threats than a few immigrants or terrorists.
Faggots will vote a bit more right for a few years, the war will end sooner or later and thats it. Compared to the last century this is nothing.

dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3407267/The-English-one-Anglo-Saxon-Study-reveals-time-immigrants-mixed-British-population.html

Freedom

>dailymail
"Apparently, the editor of the Daily Mail, mr. Paul Dacre, has just received an asshole transplant."

"Ah, yeah, I heard that too, the asshole rejected him, I hear."

then you are not catholic

>But this doesnt mean everything has failed and the EU will be a future caliphat.

Just two or three more big issues (such as Deutsche Bank not beign saved, German army being send to fight Russian soldiers on vacation into Estonia or some shit) and AfD is in charge and then things will go downhill for you. There's not reason to endanger current peace (for Germany at least, we could theoreticaly gain a lot). It's not like anybody foresaw WWI.

Got to give it to the Germans. They always rebuild and cuck the nation's around them

They alsway get handouts from a superpower that wants a strong regional ally.

balance of power was the worst thing you guys thought up

everybody foresaw wwi. everybody wanted wwi. nobody expected what it would be like and nobody thought that they wouldnt win in the following few months.

>two or three more big issues
sure bro, germans will attack russia....
this is just another treepissing contest between usa and them. usa utilizes the fear from the ex soviet union states and they """"independence"""".

EU wont fail as long as germany and france exists.

Protestantism was a good thing. Protestant countries tend to be less bigot than Catholic ones, even very religious ones like the USA.
Example: heterologous fertilization was illegal in Italy until very recently.
I'm sure nuts like those guys from the Westboro Baptist Church are annoying as hell, but at least they don't have a real influence over politics like Catholics nuts do, or at least not as much. Fuck the Church.
t. former Catholic, now atheist

That aussie thinks he's some Anglo-Saxon warrior that worships Wotan. He has sheep shit on his knob.

>prostestantism was a good thing
>heterologous fertilization is a good thing
dumb fedoraposter

fuck off cuck

>letting your country be cucked by the Catholic Church doesn't make you a cuck
Pottery

>fedora blames the church for his nations corruption

>responsible for both world wars
Germany did not start WW1. WW1 was a reaction to growing European nationalism and a increasingly difficult geopolitical map leaders of the time were no apt to handle.

WW2 was a reaction to WW1. Hitler could only come into power because of the unfair treatment of Germany and its people in the Versailles treaty, where Germany had to assume responsibility for a war it did not start.

>responsible for communism and protestantism
>responsible for destroying roman empire
first of all, martin luther was born in the holy roman empire, so this would make germany the good guy for "destroying" the HRE, right?

Secondly, you can't make a country responsible for what a single citizen might do, even less so when all they did was philosophize on how things could be different.

>split in two during cold war and immediately made both sides evil
wow you should probably elaborate on this, but i don't expect much since all americans are idiots

>everybody foresaw wwi.
>nobody expected what it would be like

Are you like dumb and shit or do you preternd to misunderstand me?

>sure bro, germans will attack russia....

germany is kin dof obliged to help fellow NATO members out, it's unlikely that in case of Russian activity in Estonia, your goverment would not bow to the preassure of the USA and stay entirely out of it. Gewrmany woud most like send in some token force few dozens men strong. (and quite possibly secretly hoping for quick Russian victory)

>he thinks HRE was the roman empire

I'm not saying the Church is responsible for all, or even most of our problems, but any Italian, minus the bigots, is annoyed at the influence it has on our politics.
But I'm on Cred Forums, the site where atheists' opinions can be easily dismissed by posting pictures of fat men, regardless of what they said.

>any Italian, minus the bigots, is annoyed at the influence it has on our politics
w-what sort of influence and how

>only bigots disagree

i think you need to read my post again, little russian rape child

They also literally eat people.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:German_cannibals

i think you should educate your self snownigger,especially if you think Versailles treaty was unfair to the germans of all people

fuck off. im irish, arsehole.

I am a Greek.

I would tell you the same if I knew there were any serious educational institutions in Lithaunia

Do you even know about the cold war we had in the past? What we have now, is bullshit compared to that. "we are obliged to fight russia".
you can bet that nobody will go in a direct confrontation with russia over some minor state which is too small to even be called "independent".
Risking a hundredmillion lifes, just for a few rightwing faggots to protect they _unique_ culture which major characteristic is "hating russia"? yes sure believe in your eternal wardreams.
If russia wants to have it, they will have it. Even the fucking Estonians knows it.

But here is the important part: Its not fucking worth it. Get shit on by russia or not. europe wont bother.

It was the only country of importance in Europe back then, Britain, Spain and France were going around the world.

This assumes all the players on both sides are perfectly rational (which is bullshit).

Also, even a rational player might take a calculated risk, Russia wouldn't risk a proper war either, but they might just take a chance that NATO won't react.

Besied, the moment NATO doens't protect Estonia is the moment all NATO treaties are only good for wiping ass. With NATO gone, huge chung of American influence over europe is gone, so naturally they wouldn't back out instantly.

Your end of history idealism is basicaly full of shit.

>unfair treatment of Germany and its people in the Versailles treaty
Are there still people that believe this meme?

>protestantism
>destroying roman empire
>WRONG SIDE

Ok.

>Absolute beta who was bullied in school, looked like a Jew to the point other kids called him a kike when he was a schoolboy
That's why you shouldn't bully anyone in school.

>Germany did not start WW1. WW1 was a reaction to growing European nationalism and a increasingly difficult geopolitical map leaders of the time were no apt to handle.
>WW2 was a reaction to WW1. Hitler could only come into power because of the unfair treatment of Germany and its people in the Versailles treaty, where Germany had to assume responsibility for a war it did not start.
Cred Forums could not contain the sheer volume of >>>>>>>>>>>> your post would require

>bbut nato isnt worthless
>it will protect me from the evil russians
first, they is a difference between rational thinking and jumping from a bridge in an explosing building. your inability to understand that, despite having the cold war with decades of delicate political movements speaks for itself.

just for you: Russia wont attack estonia. its not fucking worth it.
But IF it does, it will be over in a few days (thats by the way, a prediction by nato) and no major power in europe will lift a finger.
nato is nice little cradle for russia to jump over, if they want to invade some worthless countries. but no one will risk a war over some minor loss of influence.

your understanding of politics and history is literally american tier. now please fuck off

Americans can't accept the fact that they can't buy a spot in heaven.

please, explain how it's fair that Germany would take responsibility for ww1

and don't say "because they started it", they didn't. If anyone started ww1, it was Russia because they refused to stop their mobilization.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. This is the way most serious historians looks at ww1. It is not the dumbed down version you'd get in middle-school.

>but no one will risk a war over some minor loss of influence.

Collapse of NATO isn't a minor loss of influence.

Also you still assume all the players on both sides are perfectly rational. If this was true, how come people in the past started wars they couldn't possibly win? Was it because our were retards?

we love you too, senpai

is good stuff

I am a Spaniard living in Germany.
The country is not in a worse state than the most "international" areas of Spain (Barcelona...).
With the difference that I feel bad for the poor Germans. I do no think that they deserve their inevitable fall. I really hope that they chimp out.

Spain is full of retards, and the country well deserves it's destiny.

its*

Not even afghans want to be in your catholic hellholes

I knew that if Russia invades Germany Germans won't even fight because they don't care

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Just tell the lefties that they are evil white homophobic imperialists and surely they will chimp out

Not true, we were froced into it by france, learn your history.

>German brainwashing