Muslims on Cred Forums don't feel sorry for the things ISIS does

Of course only a moron would think Muslims as a whole are in any way resposible. A not insignificant number of Muslims do condone what ISIS is doing however, those are a problem.

>White people don't feel sorry for what our ancestors did.
Really makes me think.

Stop trying to make people apologize for shit they didn't do ya cunt.

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So these people aren't?

>Sins of the Father
You're a fucking idiot

Not an argument. Time has nothing to do with with it.
Do you feel responsible if some white sperglord shoots up a school?

>Yet christians admit the KKK is a christian hate group.
So what do you people want? Muslims to admit that ISIS has religious motivations behind their actions?
And when they do, then what? Chances are ISIS will still be around and muslims will still be muslims.
People don't stop being Christian just because the KKK exists.

The fact of the matter is that you want people who belong to a group to feel responsibility for the actions of a few.
If they don't condone ISIS' actions, they don't have any responsibility for what they do.

>lol flag is still at it
If you seriously think I'm "shilling for the muslims" then fuck off. I mentioned white shaming in the first place because this is in the same category as that.
If you had fuckall to do with what some bad people did, then you have no reason to feel responsible.

Sweden should apologize for that

In school there is not much made of the KKK being Christian. I always thought it was a secular group.

Well, Western world isn't really that religious anymore, most "Christians" in the West don't actually believe in God right? It's not like for example Christians in Angola who are radical Christians.
But there are plenty of white supremacists in the West. And I'm not talking about normal nationalists, I'm talking about the likes of Breivik or the Swedish Darth Vader guy. Terrorists. Should you feel sorry for what they have done? You're not responsible for own personal their actions.

The fact of the matter is that whilst a lot of Muslims condem isis they also condone their actions. see

M8, 73% of Danish Muslims believes the Qu'ran and the Hadiths should be followed fully.

>actions of the few
Yea, and the rest watch and praises those who take action

How are you so sure that the muzzies you talk to are even perpetuating that shit?
The only ones you talk to are on Cred Forums. If I went off of Cred Forums to learn about people I would assume my northern neighbors are a bunch of giant ass autistic cunts.

ISIS had a lot of potential to be honest

*sniff* ISIS are anti imperialist so *sniff* we should support *sniff* them

Except for really dumb people on Cred Forums (mostly Americans) no one is praising Breivik, and that far out radicalisation has almost a non existing fan base here

Where as Islamic radicals have a huge fan base, and are often in action

Then those people are no better than a crowd at a Colosseum cheering for a massacre.
If is true and the majority of people think ISIS "isn't religious" but want them to keep doing what they're doing, then they're not the (apparent) small group of people I was talking about that don't like ISIS or what they're doing.

And since this is a majority we're talking about, I guess what I said only applies for those few that don't want anything to do with ISIS. Never mind I said anything.

Did you read what it says on the side? In Jordan sharia is about marriage divorce inheritance and child custody

They are a different problem, I think I was being specific in discussing ISIS.

"1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights...was a relativistic "secular understanding of the Judeo-Christian tradition", which could not be implemented by Muslims without trespassing Islamic law."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Declaration_on_Human_Rights_in_Islam

I agree Islam is not compatible with Western liberal democracy, these are their own words, this is what they believe.

I don't have a problem with individual Muslims who reject this tripe however.

do turks feel sorry about the genocides they committed ?

This.

>73%
lmaoo and what are the other 27%? Weekend Muslims?

>T-Two thousand years ago white people used to do it so it's ttotally fine that the vast majority of western muslims support shariah law
Is that really your argument? Oh no I'm sure they'll embrace your multi cultural secular liberal belifes once you give them more stuff because that's worked out great in Europe hasn't it?

The problem with what you're saying is yes ISIS is a problem but Al qaeda,Al shabaab,Boko haram and the other hundreds of terrorist groups that exist and the countries like Saudi Arabia which are no better than them are also a problem.

edition.cnn.com/2016/04/11/europe/britain-muslims-survey/

>Lutherans on Cred Forums aren't ashamed of Hitler being Lutheran

All religcucks should feel bad regardless of their desert cult 2bh

Oh yes two out of 50 Islamic countries don't execute or send homosexuals to prison for a very long time *clap clap*

The majority of muslims do accept it though why should we have to suffer because 5% of them are okay?

youtube.com/watch?v=Uy9m_jkVVKI

>Islam is not compatible with Western liberal democracy
It's true, but not for the reasons you might think.

Nation states heavily distort the spirit of Islam, which is suppose to one of unity. Democracies work on individual scale because it's based on free trade. Things like traditional culture and religion aren't needed in a democracy.

Islam however is suppose to be a complete way of life, which affects everything from trade to social culture. The Middle East is a very clear example of how nation states states stand in the way of that. Iran has their own Islam, Saudis have their own Islam, Omani's have their own Islam, etc. This creates an intellectual problem for Muslim's, because they're suppose to believe they're all one and equal but they don't because they all have their own opinions on what Islam is/should be.

>Is that really your argument? Oh no I'm sure they'll embrace your multi cultural secular liberal belifes once you give them more stuff because that's worked out great in Europe hasn't it?
I never said anything along those lines.
I said that IF THAT STATISTIC IS TRUE then fuck the majority of muslims who have it both ways by having ISIS move their ideals forwards while disassociating themselves from ISIS because "they're not motivated by islam, we promise!"

>The problem with what you're saying is yes ISIS is a problem but Al qaeda,Al shabaab,Boko haram and the other hundreds of terrorist groups that exist and the countries like Saudi Arabia which are no better than them are also a problem.
I never tried to downplay their relevance. I was talking about the "peaceful" muslims, aka the ones that aren't actively beheading people. But like I said if they're basically cheering ISIS on then they can fuck right off out of Europe.

From the start I was talking about the few muslims who are simply religious because they believe in what their religion has to say, they have nothing to do with ISIS.
Those that secretly think ISIS is doing a good job, want to enforce Shariah law, etc. are not good people in my book. They might not be "as bad" as the specific people committing acts of terrorism, but if they at best "don't mind it" or at worst support them, then they are in fact partially to blame and should feel responsible.

It's not just two :/
It varies a lot from country to country
And in Jordan gay sex is legal if you don't publicize it or commercialize it because that would disturb public morality

Jordan is the least autistic sandnigger country.

You think 95% of Muslims think that Nice attack or Belgium attack is okay..?

It is true and those people who "are simply religious because they believe in what their religion has to say, they have nothing to do with ISIS." are those people retard.

>want to enforce Shariah law
So the majority of muslims are bad? Why should we be forced to accept millions of them just because a few who eat pork and support free speech are okay then?
Very disingenuous post.

These anti Islam people frequently use ad hominem and straw men to prove their point

we are bombing them. they will lose dabiq in a week. isn't that enough

My meme charts are better than your meme charts

We're supposed to appologise for colonialism and slavery to the whole world for being whites europeans. What's the difference ?

Except it's not true because you can't enforce Islamic laws in a non-Islamic country. It's literally not allowed.

How am I supposed to know? In my opinion most were sympathetic but I do know that 1 in 4 British Muslims say the 7/7 bombings were justified cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/

>It is true and those people who "are simply religious because they believe in what their religion has to say, they have nothing to do with ISIS." are those people retard.
Maybe I should have been even more specific because it seems you still want to accuse me of things I never said. How about this then:
>muslims who are religious because they believe that what is written in the quaran is true, as long as it does not conflict with the country/people/beliefs/culture of their new place of habit AND they do not support ISIS in any way (admitting they are motivated by religious beliefs is optional) are okay people
Have I made myself clear enough now?

>So the majority of muslims are bad? Why should we be forced to accept millions of them just because a few who eat pork and support free speech are okay then?
Jesus fucking Christ will you stop assuming things about me because of my flag?
If the muslims want shariah law anywhere in Europe they can fuck off. If they're a decent human being (which there is no way to test) then they can stay.

Suur lukki sua ap siunatkoon.

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Okay, sorry. I was wrong.
But it's not just Muslim countries.
There is hostility towards homosexuals in must third world countries.
And, European countries were just as hostile a hundred years ago.
Gay rights is a new thing.

>most were sympathetic
That's not true AT ALL.
Terrorist attacks against civillians like in an airport or in the street get like 0.0001% sympathy. It's haram.
Even Osama Bin Laden fans say that Osama didn't actually do 9/11 and he's innocent from it.
However, I can tell you that the terrorist attack in the Orlando nightclub did get sympathizers.

Alright then just admit that the majority of muslims in the west are bad and should be sent packing.
Yes you can say that Europe was bad hundreds of years ago but that will not solve anything.

Muslims is Europe have the same beliefs edition.cnn.com/2016/04/11/europe/britain-muslims-survey/

I'm just glad that the right is rising throughout Europe :^)

Ferme ta gueule.

>Except for really dumb people on Cred Forums (mostly Americans) no one is praising Breivik, and that far out radicalisation has almost a non existing fan base

>That's not true AT ALL.
Do you have any proof?

>terrorist attacks are against civilians is haram and doesn't get any support
>but that terrorist attack where 50 civilians were killed isn't haram and got a lot of support

>However, I can tell you that the terrorist attack in the Orlando nightclub did get sympathizers.
Yes I know, there was a trend going on in the middle east and millions of muslims were celebrating the murders right?

There are muslim terrorists of every nationality while white people are mostly atheist and you don't find terrorism so yeh they should feel sorry as a "comunity"

You're picking things from an extremist Islamic group and generalizing it on all Muslims.
I can pick things from these same dumb people on Cred Forums and tell my friends that this what all Westerners think about Muslims.
But it's not true.
Do I have any proof? I live around Muslims. Everytime a terrorist attack like Belguim's or France's of Turkey's everybody is against it. Actually most people think that IS is the creation of USA and Israel specifically to ruin the image of Islam and Muslims.
After Charlie Hebdo attack, Arab news papers made cartoons about how it's an attack on free speach.
>Yes I know, there was a trend going on in the middle east and millions of muslims were celebrating the murders right?
Yeah, it was specifically KSA since KSA is the only Arab country that's active on twitter. And keep in mind Saudis are the most religious Muslims.
I think like 60% were happy about it.
Although there were also people who opposed it in the trend if you actually translated all the tweets.
Attitude towards homosexuals is generally... most people think that homosexuality is immoral. Some of those believe that gays should be murdered, soms of those gays are mentally ill and should go to a mental hospital to get treatment, some people believe there's something wrong with their hormones and it should be fixed, some people hate homosexuality but think that if they want to do it should be behind closed doors. And a minority think that homosexuality is perfectly alright.

isis is mainly tunisian but i don't feel sry for what they did because they didn't represent me desu

Do YOU feel sorry for colonialism and slavery?