You will never go back in time and kill this man before he started writing

>you will never go back in time and kill this man before he started writing

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>He thinks getting rid of one person would prevent extremist ideologies from forming.

One of the worst people to ever exist.

His failed utopian ideas lead to the deaths of hundreds of millions.

Better the devil you know tbqh. Communism is known to be shit and the methods of fighting it are quite famous.

this man plus mohammed as a child

I would love to travel back in time and kill George Washington. That way we wouldn't have USA and we could live in peace.
Worst case scenario there would be a US like nation but more like Canada and Australia. Which are both calma and peacefull, no globalism plans at all.

Why George?

Karl was pretty based, him and Friedrich were the original power couple.

They're ideas were ok, albeit very reliable on human goodness. Sadly they were pandering to the lowest common denominator to get support.

They're criticisms of capitalism were valid and helped drive the push for workers rights later on.

But their solutions were utterly draconian and doomed to abuse.

Honestly sucks.

Heheh the jews would find another top goy, wishful thinking Mr. Barbosa

Out of all systems Capitalism is the least shittiest.

This is why the osest you can get is Soc Dem which operates within a capitalist framework. 90% of companies in Sweden are privately owned.

closest to actual socialism*

Socdems are nowhere near what Marx was suggesting.

It's why I laugh that modern terminology has butchered the meaning of socialism so much.

Now you have idiots who think anything a government does is socialist.

I never said it was.

Actual socialism has been tried many times and failed.

The closest you can get is socdem.

Its hard to blame them for their solutions when they honestly believed that the bourgeoisie was some sort of cult of being that would never conceed rights to there workers. This is also in a time where the power of democracy was diminished due to money. They were working with what they had.

Any idea can become murderous. They are not inherently dysfunctional but when no one has ever tried it you're sure going to cause disasters. Specially when your country is already shit, unstable and your leaders are up to anything to secure power.

Marxism today is very integrated in our society, developmentalism today wouldn't be possible if he hadn't laid out the lower levels of the theory.

Can you give me one example where employers give workers rights, except when there is some sort of monetary benefit behind?

Google's all liberal, foosball in the hall, go to work in pyjamas, smoke weed in office culture doesn't count because it was proved it improved productivity and also creative output.

Market Socialism worked very well in Brazil for 12 years, but then we gave too much emphasis to the market side and started hinting to the neoliberal side, however with the state growing still.

I'm not agreeing with them. I'm just saying there ideology was a product of the times. It's because of their limited knowledge of the working world around them.

>socialism worked in brazil

my sides

your and Venezuelas failures are because of socialism you buffoon. you socialist cucks are some of the most retarded people to ever exist. whenever your policies collapse on itself you always try to pin it on capitalism

enough already

But why would I kill Karl Kox? He's a great techno dj!

meanwhile chile which has the freest economy in latin america routinely performs the best in the region

But Engels would still be alive.
And Hegel before them.

Engels was a rightful capitalist before meeting that shitbag though

Engels was the one who came up with some of the more loony stuff though.

>your and Venezuelas failures are because of socialism you buffoon
>let me tell you about your country
No, it's not. People getting out of poverty and coming into the economy, the informal economy having less bureaucracy to deal with the state and become legalized, straightforward taxes, protectionism to foster our industry, demand-side economics are what made our GDP grow so fast in the last decade.

You conservative cucks always pin the left for any issue while you don't know the political landscape in Brazil, otherwise you wouldn't be talking shit.

We've always had instability in politics, and when for the third election the workers party won the president's seat a power struggle surged (it was always like that) and the congress basically stopped working.

Shit hit the fan when a neoliberal finance minister took place and raised rates in the middle of the worst recession ever, and because of a limit in spending when many companies had diminishing profits.

I don't blame capitalism for anything, I'm only for a more just version of it that doesn't make people cucks of companies and rich people.

>neoliberal finance minister took place

Man that sucks, those faggots are the ones who destroyed FDR's legacy here in America.

But he was based

We have a neoliberal president and finance minister right now.

Although we have more stability right now I'm really afraid with what they have been doing regarding workers' benefits, concessions/privatization packages and the so called retirement reform. They look like short term solutions to long term problems and that's where we've failed so many times before.

>Shit hit the fan
Because Dilma was elected
>and the congress basically stopped working.
Because she's a shit leader. You might hate him, but you have to acknowledge that Lula faced fucking Mensalão, which was ten times worse than whatever excuse pmdb came up to impeach Dilma, and he got reelected and was still incredibly popular

>when a neoliberal finance minister took place and raised rates in the middle of the worst recession ever,
She appointed Levy to fix the shitshiow she made out of this country, but faced opposition from her own party because of "muh eebul neoliberal antics"

>le evil manifesto
1. He didn't invented this thinking
2. His analysis of society are very accurate
3. If not him someone else would have written it

The run away from ideas, problems, obstacels only proofs your weakness and incapabilites.

But as a Shartian (what implies a very low IQ, general low education, and mixed race and white identity)

>>Shit hit the fan
>Because Dilma was elected
Shit was already under the rug, it wasn't shown because the coup was already ready to be executed. In that time PMDB had both seats of congress and the vice-presidency. Cunha was always hinting to the other side, which was the coalition of the major center-right parties. So there was an interest to get her re-elected, mainly because by that time she was already dominated by PMDB's hand.

>>and the congress basically stopped working.
>Because she's a shit leader.
No doubt she is but you're being soo naive right now.

>You might hate him, but you have to acknowledge that Lula faced fucking Mensalão, which was ten times worse than whatever excuse pmdb came up to impeach Dilma, and he got reelected and was still incredibly popular
Yet he was not directly indicted in the process. But what that has to do with what I said?

>She appointed Levy to fix the shitshiow she made out of this country
By the time she appointed him she had already lost her power. Remember that there was a week when three ministries changed ministers. All because of the political power struggle ended in the impeachment.

>They are not inherently dysfunctional
Yes, they are.

Nothing would change, only some names and datas.

>Cunha was always hinting to the other side, which was the coalition of the major center-right parties.
Why did Dilma make him an enemy of hers? In the end, she got impeached because she wanted to rule alone and was left with no allies. She was never a good politician.

>Yet he was not directly indicted in the process.
Neither was Dilma, all they had agaisnt her was a possible technical loophole in some law that dictated how the President should deal with the budget that most Brazilians couldn't care or know about.

Lula's government high echelon faced actual corruption charges, and he still managed to live a second term by using his political power and influence to maintain himself there (increased minimum wages)

Also please cut this leftists crap of muh privatisations were bad, a retirement reform isn't necessary and muh worker rights, it only shows how little you know budget balancing or economics in general

But Engels would still be alive.
And Hegel before them.

t. commiecuck

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fucking kek. enjoy your leftism you retard

Where did anybody say Capitalism have any flaws you fucking idiot?

Out of all economic systems, Capitalism has the least amount of flaws. This is why all the richest and most prosperous countries in the world are all capitalist.

Marx didn't invent socialism, but his interpretation of it (marxism) failed every time and caused hundreds of millions of deaths.

>t. commiecuck
Run coward, run away from critisim and hide in your basement like the eternal loser you are.

So it's communists who made the life so hard in the region of Middle East that the huge amount of will-work-for-food employees are going to Europe to work for European companies?

doesn't*

Until then enjoy your country committing ethnic and cultural suicide en masse you fucking dumbshit.

>you will never go back in time and kill muhammad before he started his bullshit

Stalin and Lenin are to blame for Communism and all its ramifications as seen in the 20th century.

>attacking a strawmen

Tell me who the biggest proponents of letting rapefugees and giving benefits en masse are? It isn't right-wing parties. But social-democrat dipshits.

Nobody denies the lower amount of flaws of capitalism. The thing is that it's not the best thing humanity can have. There are more formations on the way

You're talking to an American here

Currently it is. Until a better economic system can be developed, capitalism is still the best.

I'll never understand Americans.

>implying that social democrats are marxists
Social democrats are the same servants of big business as any other party in the Parliament.

>In the end, she got impeached because she wanted to rule alone and was left with no allies.
Truth. In the end PT had to ally with PP.

>Also please cut this leftists crap of muh privatisations were bad, a retirement reform isn't necessary and muh worker rights, it only shows how little you know budget balancing or economics in general
I'm not saying they are always bad, I'm saying that selling our pre-salt basins, giving concessions of public services companies to the private sector (which most of the times end up in the hands of people of trust), raising the minimum retirement age above the life expectation (in many places), cutting benefits from disabled people without a standard diagnosis, are all things that will bring stability at this moment, but we will have to deal with the same issues in the next decade, because they don't change the structure of the problem.

Also, austerity is never the answer when we have a severe case of industrialisation and many foreign companies and capital are fleeing the country.

First of all capitalism is the only economic system.
Second the capitalist econimies are very different from country to country.

And here on this place: "flaws" how many flaws there are is not the question. How to solve an issue is.

I know I am talking to some half human with little brain power but this simple mechanism of rational thought should be understandable even for you.

What is it with Americans and their rabid hatred of any critique of capitalism, as valid as it may be?

It's okay, Americans don't understand Americans either.

Indoctrination from small age combined with an inherited stupidity.

They are very emotional people. They start crying often when confronted with direct critisism.

I never said they are marxist retard. They are left-wing though.

>First of all capitalism is the only economic system.
>what is slave-owning society
>what is feudalism

What defines the political orientation of a man: his words or his actions?

only viable economic system*

>second the capitalist economies are different from country to country

I already admitted this you fucking idiot. I never implied otherwise.

You are a fucking idiot who is assuming that I am denying all critques of Capitalism. I never said or even implied Marxs critiques are invalid you moronic Turk shitskin. I correctly stated that his """solution"""" aka Marxism has been a dismisal failure in every country.

And that Marxism is much more flawed than capitalism.

They are brainwashed and ignorant.
You implied they were commies.