Should UK and USA be forced to pay reparations to Germany for the bombings of Dresden...

goddamned bait, but yeah... victors write the history... so no. you only get reparations if you win

fuck off spastic
kraut cunts got what they deserved

Germany can start by paying for the damage to London, they bombed us first.

In my opinion, you should kill yourself

>be on an island
>meddle in continental politics
>wtf they are fighting me thats not fair
same with the EU
>we dont want to be in EU fucking continentals
>ok well we will go in
>fuck this if we dont get preferential treatment were out
>we really are out we tell you
>thats it are totally out
>by god and our kraut queen we are OUT
>we will help turkey join the EU
fucking anglos

UK literally wanted the war because they feared germany could be another opponent
Nazi germany is literally what happens when you bully someone for 30 years

though you didnt need to fuck with the soviets. if you busted the anglos we would all be better off

Implying we didn't have a treaty with Poland
Implying a fucking war machine on your doorstep wouldn't attack you eventually

>we didnt get into the war exactly because of that war machine
>this couldnt have been solved in ww1
>you care for anyone attacking you cuz you still have that island mentality
>even in the cold war you didnt sell shit to the russians cuz "muh britain we got the channel who could do shit to us"
>its not the american cock that gives you independence

>though you didnt need to fuck with the soviets
They didn't have a choice, read pic related.

Considering how much money they pumped into Germany after the war, they kind of already did

Of course they did it because of the Commies and not reparations, but still

germany invaded the USSR for oil, the USSR were pretty fine with selling oil to germany. whats your point? ofc there was propaganda, but no one wanted a war in the east before it was declared.

The only crime in war is losing
We can deduce this by the fact that no country that won in a war has ever been condemned for war crimes.

You realize we funded the reconstruction of Europe after ww2 yes?

THEY WERE GONNA ATTACK US ANWAYS

WHY DOES NOBODY UNDERSTAND

You mean you sold a lot of shit to a destroyed europe.

bullshit you thought you lost the battle of briatain when you actually won it and got cringy. admit it

How does this relate to anything?

you mean in ww2 or?

Germany did not attack the USSR for oil, Germany attacked the USSR because they knew that the USSR was going to attack Germany sooner or later and didn't want to let them choose when.

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Okay, I'm too lazy to read the whole story, but in a nutshell: Stalin used Hitler as an asset to make war in Europe, so that he could just roll through the wreckage once the participants have beaten the shit out of each other. When Hitler realised that, it was too late, so he struck first and hoped for the best.

Anyway, I do recommend that book, it has a shit ton of evidence for the theory, and what's even funnier is that it was written in 1988, IIRC, before the archives were open.

>b-but germany chose to attack in self defense!
>its why they slaughtered civilians as much as they did!
>the 1 quarter of the Belarusian population that died were all partisans!!!

except that makes no sense. german intelligence underestimated the USSR, it was a german doctrine to secure the oil, and it was conviniently after they thought they lost the battle for britain and there was no land war available.

>read
*tell
FUGG

No

>good boys who dindu nuffin

yeah, stalin the paranoid fuck who couldnt even go to sleep without passing out put his trust in someone who he didnt have total control of and couldnt supervise 24/7

Your forgetting our contribution.

>whats new?

Yes, German intelligence underestimated the USSR. The USSR was much farther along in their preparations to invade than Germany thought.

I always liked how that statue looked.

It's like it's saying "what the hell? why did you mess with the eternal anglo?" to the germans below

except it wasnt. not that they wouldnt have eventually. it was a clash of 2 dictator, both paranoid. but the USSR wasnt bent on attacking germany.

No, Germany has to pay reparations for its crimes against Greece in ww2.

Greece has to pay denbts for it's crimes against the EU

>the USSR wasnt bent on attacking germany
Now you're just being ridiculous.

>Crimes

>soviet spies were as inept as german ones

They already did by giving you EU money to inflate your pensions above what you could normally afford.

mmmm... very well... very well...

Looks pretty nice.

Then maybe you shouldn't spend last 20 years helping them improve their military retard

no fck the krauts, dresden bombings best days of my life

And whose products and weapons were we buying?
Also where are those pensions now?

did gdansk have any dutch influence? the buildings look very dutch

It wasn't just that, the EU was propping up a lifestyle Greeks couldn't pay for and the government just kept borrowing money until it fell in on itself.

It was inevitable.

That's obvious, no Germans left

Stalin was great at manipulation, he knew Hitler wanted revenge for Versaille and he used that desire to his own advantage. If he hadn't wanted to attack, then why did the USSR have the biggest paratrooper force in the world at the time, why did he participate in the partitioning of a perfect buffer state (i.e. Poland) against Germany, why did he destroy the Stalin Line and why did he have the barbed wire, why did he have mountaineers stationed at the Ukrainian steppes, why did he have marines in the marshes of Belorussia and why did he have the barbed wire and other defensive obstacles removed at the border, just like the Germans did? Just some things from the book I had mentioned.

>Germans bomb this shit out of Russian, Dutch and Polish cities
>happens to them

>WAAAAAH WAR CRIME WE ARE THE VICTIMS WE DINDU NUFFIN WE THE GOOD BOIS

Heh, at least you guys rebuilt it to keep it traditional.

Germans rebuilt their cities using shitty modernist architecture.

Joining the allies was the biggest mistake in US history

>>Germans bomb this shit out of Russian, Dutch and Polish cities
don't forget british cities m8

1. paratroopers in ww2 - inexistant
2. poland - separated cuz of ancient hatreds and modern weapons
3. all the stuff about belarus and ukraine and barbed wire and shit is speculation

They were all nazis. Good on the allies for bashing the fash scum and raping their women

The EU and lending propped up consumption and infrastructure for a better commodity flow. Sure, we "over-borrowed" but after the 08 crisis everybody became """"financially conservative"""" again and started virtue signalling. It's pretty hypocritical.
Besides don't forget that the exact same rhetoric is/was used for all the PIIGS.

oi ya cunts the nazis bombed the parthenon too 10000000000000000000000000000000$ for that alone

Yes, during the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth the city was called "Chłańsk" (devourer), because it was the main hub of all wheat trade from the Kingdom of Poland, then wheat was sold to Dutch merchants and Polish aristocrats bought various colonial goods.

They did, Germany paid reparations to UK.

Yes.

I won't disagree, in truth Greece is likely just a picture of the future of most western countries.

>tfw all of the west will become brown like brazil and all that's left of Europe are retarded subhuman slavs where any good genetic material was killed off by commies
>tfw we will regress into nothingness and humanity will forever be doomed to be stuck on this rock

IT'S NOT FAIR

are you fat? be honest

>be belgrade
>get btfo'd by the nazis in 1941
>get btfo'd by the allies on easter 1944
>get finished by communists who detonate buildings just to build brick cubes afterwards

>1. paratroopers in ww2 - inexistant
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Airborne_Troops#Interwar_and_World_War_II

>2. poland - separated cuz of ancient hatreds and modern weapons
If Stalin had been the type of guy to give way for his emotions rather than carefully plan and think, he wouldn't have got as far as he did.

>3. all the stuff about belarus and ukraine and barbed wire and shit is speculation
Nope, these stuff are all written in the memoirs of not just the generals, but also of the simple soldiers, NCOs. Most of these memoirs were published after glasnost was introduced, when censorship was not as much of an issue as before.

You guys had shitty commie planning as well though.

What exactly are you referring to?

literally it says the paratroopers were "there" but they all had been converted to rifle regiments and that they needed ground units. it literally says that the "airborne" nature of them all was just elite ground troops. as it were even in the cold war. the VDV never prided themselves of dropping behind enemy lines they prided themselves of being the elite of a conscript army
poland was never about stalins plans - it was there for the taking so the soviets took it.

Yugoslavia was a communist country.

With Tito? In name only.

No.

Wheb we fund Muslims it doesn't work well in our favor down the road.

How? They weren't loyal to Stalin and the Soviet Union, but I was under the impression it was state controlled and centrally planned like the rest of them.

Right, that's why England instantly declared war on the Soviet Union as well when they marched into Poland.

I find it funny how Americans whine about two buildings beeing destoyed, when we had whole cities bombed to nothing

>The Soviets and their satellite states often accused Yugoslavia of Trotskyism and social-democracy, charges loosely based on Tito's samoupravljanje (self-management) and the theory of associated labor (profit sharing policies and worker-owned industries initiated by him, Milovan Đilas, and Edvard Kardelj in 1950). In these, the Soviet leadership saw the seeds of council communism or even corporatism.

>Tito's own ideology became less clear with the pressures of various nationalisms within Yugoslavia and the problems posed by the 1970s Croatian Spring. However, his economic views remained steady, amounting[clarification needed] to the high standard of living enjoyed by the country - slowly, Yugoslavia became somewhat closer to a free-market, neatly separated from other Socialist regimes in Eastern Europe (and marked by a permissive attitude towards seasonal labor of Yugoslav citizens in Western Europe). At the same time, the leadership did put a stop to overt capitalist attempts (such as Stjepan Mesić's experiment with privatization in Orahovica), and crushed the dissidence of liberal thinkers such as former leader Milovan Đilas; it also clamped down on centrifugal attempts, promoting a Yugoslav patriotism.

Like you were alive when it happened you pussy.

like you where over 10 when it happend you pussy

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i was 13 when it happened

Yes, they were converted to regular units, because you can only deploy paratroopers in an offensive war.

If it Stalin had conquered Poland just because, why not do it earlier, without the intervention of the Germans? Because that would have been a clear sign for Germany that the Soviet steamroller is already on the way and is about to get them. Stalin's plans would have unfolded pretty quickly, plus he'd have had the Allies (or the League of Nations). According to the Molotov-Ribbentropp Agreement, the Germans and the Soviets would have attacked Poland simultaneously, that gave Hitler the encouragement, because if the Allies declared war on him, they would have declared war on Stalin too. However, when Hitler attacked, Stalin stated that his troops are not yet ready and only joined the assault after a few weeks, making Hitler the scapegoat for WWII in the eyes of the Allies.

And that somehow makes your position valid?

They deserved it.

I remember you that german subhumans bombed London.

>expecting a nigger to read
youtube.com/watch?v=H4A1haySbx8

So if you bully a country for 30 years, you get the opportunity to level their cities and reduce their population to a collection of corpses and whores? Sounds like bullying is the way to go gents!

So why did Yugoslavia go to shit then?

because the only thing you dont want to believe was true - the USSR didnt want to go to war.

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We should've bombed everything.

yes and the angolan people have to pay us back for all the troubles we had civilizing them

Nationalism. Both royal and socialist regimes used a tactic called "if I close my eyes it will go away". No one really wanted Yugoslavia in 1918, and not much has changed in 1991.

The only reason Britain attacked Germany firs tis because they were going to attack us anyways why do you not undertsand

-Checked- XYZ4 -Myanmar-

lol nah

goymoney deserved to get it's shit tucked in.

Sweden needs to pay reparations by destroying Europe with diversity

Finns are cute as hell

when Germany pays their ww2 reparations to Greece

It was full of yugos.

they should pay us reparations for burning Lapland.

We should've burned all of your ci- uhm whatever you have!

>Stalin attacked Poland because it was there for the taking
>Stalin didn't want to go to war.

Make up your mind, my Bulgarian friend.

Are you this fucked up Swedish guy who took too much HGH? (pic related)

Next time ally urselves with Martians before you decide to conquer the entire world,

hans.

stalin didnt want to go to war.
then the germans said - poland is gonna fall - you want half?
so what exactly do you expect he would reply?
nah its ok senpai, im fine as it is

one wall wasnt enough

hitler died a virgin and had a monoball

The Soviets had the hardest time of all countries in the war yet they don't bitch cry and complain about reparations

alliances are like close friendships

nothing could be further

>reparations from the soviets
you wot m8?

the soviets were jews

you burger for brains

What I meant is that Russians don't complain about all the bullshit they had to go through

And their history in the 20th century was a big pain in the ass for themselves

They got 1/3 of Europe for 45 years. It was a good deal :^)

>Russians don't complain about all the bullshit they had to go through
guess again m8
literally everyone was a nazi who wanted to smash babies heads against walls if they werent communist and they are still milking it

They still call everyone who even slightly disapproves of their actions Nazis though.

and now they've got the white house (AKA whorehouse).

spaseebah yankee :^)

If the Germans had had the initiative in the case of Poland, why was the pact signed in Moscow? Why was Stalin there, but Hitler not? Why were the members of the Soviet Party's Comittee all present, when some of them would have had to travel all the way from the Pacific shores to Moscow for a signing?

cuz german spies were shit and at first thought that the USSR was very dangerous and then though that the USSR was something to be reasoned with, and then they though tthat the USSR was inept and stupid.
pretty much because the germans had no idea what to expect of the USSR

also wtf? members of the USSR going for signature? thats literally this tier
youtube.com/watch?v=UMlsbB33QSc

Yeah well Obama is a fucking traitor to the American people

What is the Marshall Plan.

Really makes you think.

google the amounts different countries recieved from this.
Germany was on the very low end.
I also think that Germany was the only one to actaully pay it back.

Yeah, Hitler hugely underestimated the Russian development achieved during the industrialization of the 30s. A mistake for which he had to pay the price, along with millions of people.

>mfw I've seen this footage in a random documentary on Putin
Still laughing my ass off at this, tbqh, don't ever fuck with an ex-KGB.
Also, sorry for my shoddy composition, not all Party members signed the treaty, only Molotov, that's why the role of the others at the signing was gratuitous.

yeah the nice thing about russia

is theres a long long of dictators waiting to take the throne

plus human life is cheap there, almost worthless

really makes you come to conclusions

long line*

Germany spent interbellum helping soviet union industrialize and develop their mechanized forces

These fuckers are literary the wreckers of europe

Wish we had politicians who wouldn't suck businessmens dicks.

NO; THE ENTIRE INSTITUTION OF "REPARATIONS" IS PERVERSE; INSTEAD, ALL NATIONS SHOULD DISREGARD PETTY GRUDGES, AND UNITE UNDER THE COMMON PURPOSE OF ELIMINATING JEWRY FROM THE WORLD, AND OBLITERATING ISRAEL, AND ITS COLLABORATORS.

mexicunts are much worse than juden

easy there paco

you do know free masons literally run your "country" do you not?

EITHER YOUR "READING COMPREHENSION" IS ABYSMAL, OR YOUR DOMINION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS SUBOPTIMAL.

Stop typing in caps you faggot.

>YOUR DOMINION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS SUBOPTIMAL.

could perhaps be most possible

engrish is not my first ranguage.

hebrew is

Not them but sweden

youtube.com/watch?v=Qt6O1GzAeK0

This video gave me 10 testicular cancers in my brains. :(

>you thought

I think we weren't alive at that time user.

could be a 500 yo virgin wizard

you never really know who's what

t. Saleem Al-bin Sissy

>it was on the low
FUCK AMERICA, Am I right?
How dare they give us less than others. I mean Billions is too little Fucking brits got twice what we got.

they got 10 times more than we got and never repayed. :(

In that case Germany should be forced to pay reparations for the Blitz.

You're lucky you got anything at all, Nazi scum.

most of it still went to israel though.

still does.

:^)

There is no reason we wouldn't fine without it tho.

>Once a German always a German
Ungrateful scum.

We payed back a much bigger amount.
You should be greatful for finding such a good goy customer.

haha. Wow.
You simply paid back the interest like a normal transaction.

West berlin would have fucking starved without US aid and your shit country would be as retarded as east germany was.

American investment expedited development. you would definitely be in a worse position today without marshall plan and without the US.

Well then.
Thanks for 6$ mate.

Fucking ungrateful kraut. Ruin the fucking world for a 2nd time and bitching about not getting enough gibsmedats.

Should have let Ivan have his way with rest of your country too.

We would have been poorer now (like Poland) but also not cucked at all (like Poland).

The luxuries doesn't make me happy, less degenerate girls and a German country actually populated by Germans does.

I am ok with this American. Give me back my Freedom!

>Germany did nothing and then UK and France declared war on them

>goymoney not cucked the shit out of

want to take another guess?

>Implying
German would still be a cuck with or without US aid.

It's not like you were going to be allowed to re arm. US Bases would still be where they are.

Also, France has the same if not more degeneracy than germany. They lack Us troops but still watch and consume all our entertainment. So good luck getting away of it.

Eternal German.

It's bullshit. Stalin was completely taken aback by Barbarossa, he left to his datcha, fearing for his power since he was the one responsible for the non agression pact, and then came back

You already signed the contract. You'll be under the American boot forever Hans :^)

I will eat this bait:
Germany invade Poland over false claim(you got some WW1 german speaking vet who fight against the 3e Reich for Poland), The ally delcare war over this,the german bomb lot a city and capital, then after help the developpement of the URSS military for year they invade it, they loose and got mass raped and bombed.

75 Year latter, OP is faggot.

Do you want to create another Greece?

They did incomparable evil compared to the evil they received. The reparations they would receive would be overshadowed by the amount they'll have to pay and drive them into massive denbts.

I was refering to this:
>Should have let Ivan have his way with rest of your country too.

Ivans is poor but even has a sense of culture.

So, if we don't have a culture. Then what are you complaining about? we can't influence your culture if we have none to speak of.

Fucking European logic.

grease?

you mean that Turkish colony?

grease is just a spot on the map.

being drunk out of your mind 24/7 and try to imitate western "culture" is not a unique culture.

vatnik diaspora

It would have been better Ivan got us then you in long term.

That's all I wanted to say.

I'm not talking about addapting to Russian culture you fuckhead.

The map showing everyone still lives in western germany would lead one to a different conclusion.

>t sascha Igornovich

when was the last time a Turk kicked your ass or made you cross the street?

>Should UK and USA be forced to pay reparations to Germany for the bombings of Dresden, Hamburg and other German cities that caused so much death, pain and destruction for innocent people?
no, because they won

Sure, right after Germany pays reparations for bombing Warsaw and other Polish cities to dust, exterminating and repressing our civilians and captives, killing off our intellectuals, enslaving our women, kidnapping our children, stealing our paintings and sculptures, burning books, defaming our nation with deceitful propaganda that holds up to this day, etc. etc. etc.

Those German tanks and weapons tho.

Is Poland developing their weapons based off of Soviet tech or are they switching to full NATO?

Your picture shows what happened to west Germany.

And if you take a look at east Germany you see how active they fight tp prevent exactly this.

This is my point: If whole Germany ended up like East Germany who Germany would also be very active opposing your picture today.

>women in the military

pooland is a hopeless leftist shithole too.

>women in the military

pooland is a hopeless leftist shithole too.

women in the military

pooland is a hopeless leftist shithole too.

how did I echo off all the way in goymoney? :^/

I was 17 and joined the Marine Corps

Go fuck yourself

>he can join the armed forces
>but not have a beer
America

I'd rather have a qt that can shoot and wants to defend herself by my side than a qt that will, let me quote, "just spread her legs" :^)

Compared to the important cunt called Poland

Zinger

paramilitary, not the actual military
every citizen should be trained to defend the country, even women

I can shoot and maintain a rifle as well, bitch

and no I didnt have to serve no kike/commie government in order to own an AK 47

I dodged that crock of kikery

No, it was a total war, every citizen is a war asset

She will spread her legs too when she gets captured. To many people, very many people.

That's why you never ever allow women in armed forces.

>every citizen should be trained to defend the country, even women
Based nordics.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ochotnicza_Legia_Kobiet

ebun

Not before they pay for Coventry. It's still a shithole now.

this shit just triggers me.

cant they just fuck off west and join a bordello in the red district like they usually do?

Start shit, get hit.

Ok but only if Germany pays first for their bombings and mass executions

Poland literally started WW2

wrong, finnland + russia started WW2

AKA the eternal war mongering spawns of mongols

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>DO YOU WANT TOTAL WAR
>JAAAAA

You reap what you sow

Yes, just like for the bombings of Breskens, Zierikzee, Goes, Middelburg, Sluis, Hulst, Eindhoven, Tilburg, Enschede, Arnhem, Nijmegen, Deventer, Doetinchem, Wijk bij Duurstede, Venlo, Enkhuizen, Den Haag, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Utrecht, Alkmaar, Amersfoort, etc....

No they can fuck off

>bomb fucking everyone
>get bombed
>WAH WAH MUH DRESDEN

I shoule not forget to mention my own city Zutphen too, of course. Nearly all of the eastern Dutch cities were bombed by the allies.