youtube.com/watch?v=ppfzn5BBfiQ how do i make the synth that comes in at 1:37? i cant fuckin nail it and its killin me. it seems so simple but its so hard
Bentley Cox
Sounds like a vocal sample pitched up with the start point moved forward to the sustain part and stretched, across the keys of a sampler playing in mono with a tiny bit of portamento.
Jack King
*stretched across the keys of a sampler, not timestretch
Ryder Bell
>Do NOT post clyps for feedback, only post clyps for the purposes of discussing how to get X sound
Dylan Gomez
you sure? i always thought it was just a super saw with white noise and distortion. ill give it a try tho just need to grab a good sample.
Isaac Rivera
It's definitely a sampler to my ears. It does sound a bit like a supersaw but there's some harmonics in there that sound a lot like a played vocal sample
Asher Clark
...
Liam Lewis
>cant post clyps for feedback >on a /prod/ thread oh how things have changed
Hunter Young
desu i always thought that prod was supposed to be more for discussion and sound design type stuff. i mean clyp is basically just an alternate soundcloud now that people have accounts and stuff. if you want a clyp thread make a clyp thread.
prod techniques, your WIP, prod advice, and just anything /prod/ related. clyp.it is just a place where you can upload your WIP with decent quality without making an account. not like anyone even responds to 3/4 of the WIP posted anyways lol
Liam Rodriguez
Feedback is too macro level tbqh and it doesn't help anyone but the person posting the clyp
It would more condusive to learning to talk about production techniques and sound design
Juan Martin
just started using reason 5, i dl'd the pirated version and installed it on windows 8. but it won't fucking go fullscreen
hellpls
Joseph Robinson
I bought version 8 and ive been using it since 4, i seem to remember until later years it wouldn't go full screen
Evan Fisher
ohh, that's why. just noticed the tutorial im watching is version 6 .. thank
Justin James
Fuck off, prod gives prod and mix advice for feedback... Not the circle jerk that happens in sc threads
this sounds awful compared to the original. Honestly what was Roland thinking?
Charles Cox
This.
Jaxson Peterson
Link doesn't work
Nathaniel James
Wot im saying is people are posting clyps without explaining how they've done it and people are giving vague feedback. People seem to be posting for warm fuzzies if someone says they like it, not actual technical advice
Christian Brown
how do I into hiphop properly
Isaac Ross
What kind of hip-hop?
Joseph Hill
What is your DAW progression?
Reason > Sonar > Digital Performer > Sonar > Pro Tools > Cubase (current)
I'm also taking advantage of Reason's rewire
Robert Harris
Sample heavy and lofi, you typical beattape.
Hunter Moore
i do agree alot of the newbies(lol :^) post clyp.its and its just terrible. also it depends what kind of feedback youre asking for. it's either for the whole mix or for specific parts. feedbacks are helpful and ive learned alot from the feedback ive gotten
David Ortiz
People post clyps without say anything else becuase it's expected to get prod/mix feedback retard. You are the worst op ever
>get breakbeat >copy it across pads/keys of sampler >adjust the sample start and ends so each hit in the break is chopped to a pad/key >write/play a beat with the samples
>get melodic hook/chords and do the same for each note/chord >sequence something interesting with this on top of the beat
if you don't like it go make a thread for vengeance sample collages and sucking each others dick
Alexander White
Did you like DP?
Jaxon Evans
I recently started to get serious into music prod. I did as a hobby for years but not often and friends brother taught me how to produce on reason 5. I downloaded FL Studio last weekend and made more progress in one weekend than years of reason 5, fuck that program and fuck anyone who hates on FL, that shit is simple
Alexander Fisher
Yeah I did actually. But wasn't a fan of the midi sequencing. I wouldn't mind using it exclusively for mix downs in the future
Brandon Nelson
Worth keeping reason if you like the rewire function. You can hook it up to FL
this sounds awful compared to the original. Honestly what was Roland thinking?
Kayden James
really makes you think
Ryder Flores
yfw the original 303 starts playing
Gavin Lee
...
Sebastian Sanders
This made me laugh way more than it should have. I'm also sleep deprived
Angel Cook
I cant believe how many synths/drumboxes Moby has, its incredible
William Scott
Doesn't moby use Digital Performer, not ableton?
Daniel Price
SOMEONE GIVE ME A QUICK AND DIRTY WAY ON HOW TO SAMPLE IN ABLETON!
Ayden King
wtf is that andy why does he have an afro
Anthony Russell
with the sampler
Jason Bell
lmao audacity you can switch it to reaper and it's still the same
Caleb Ramirez
dude why the fuck are you posting videos that are older than the retards in this thread? saged
Jose Gonzalez
how do I make a loop with the sample/
Andrew Mitchell
You will get better and faster results if you type this into a google or a youtube desu
Levi Diaz
drop 20 sec audio clip into session mode right click slice to new midi track @ 1/8th notes
Joseph Lee
by turning on loop
Christian James
I'll have to try it thakns.
Austin Edwards
>20 sec what does that have to do with anything?
Jose Rogers
you do realize theres this thing called the Live Manual, and in it it has instructions on how to use the sampler? are you that lazy and retarded? i mean really if you cant't even open up a manual to learn how to use a program you should just stop now.
Joshua Campbell
lol what are you using ableton 8? dumb shit doesnt even know how to do that with just simpler.
Justin Anderson
20 sec will give user a good idea of how slice to midi works and give a good amount of sample chops to fuck with
Lucas Peterson
>Arbitrary length of time >doesn't instead give a length in bars, measures, etc.
Jeremiah Foster
>UR DUMM BECUZ U DON DO WHAT I DO shut up fuckface, he literally just answered the guy's question correctly
Blake Jackson
>implying simpler is better than simpler within a drum rack
ok
>implying user has any concept of measures based newb-tier question
ok
Samuel Edwards
lol no he didnt, if he answered it correctly he would have said right click and slice to midi
literally everyone thats in this thread has no future making music
Kevin Morris
>simpler is better than simpler >simpler simpler >simpler
Hudson Torres
...
Gavin Turner
let's hear your bangurz then mr ableton instructor
Bentley Green
fuCK
get some rest lmao
Xavier Perez
says the faggot that literally has no future in music, not even as a hobbiest
Kayden Phillips
they would be wasted on your pedestrian ears
Logan Lee
clypit or gtfo
Logan Myers
how convenient
Elijah Martin
lol i love this thread
>hobby >hobbier >hobbiest
i am dah best hobbiest
Luke Anderson
shocking shitposter can't back up shitposting
David Sullivan
I'm so hobby right now
Bentley Sanders
except audacity is free and works on every computer in existence. it might not be gr8, but it saved my ass countless times
that pic is 100% accurate thouh
Srs question: what is the best VST for vocals that can do what the TC-Helion does (pitch-shit,add layers, etc), tried Turnado (too messy) and Nectar (too advanced). Just want something simple to destroy my voice in a live setting using Ableton
Jordan Rogers
baited
Evan Jenkins
audacity is cool, but if you produce with it you are retarded desu
Ayden Morris
hardware mustardrace here. This is true other than ableton, just make it a picture of some poor hipster who pirated it
Christopher James
Is there somewhere I can post nearly completed work for feedback or should I just make my own thread for that?
Jackson Davis
Laptops are memes
Brandon Rivera
reaper is free and ableton can't into film scoring lol
Christian Morales
Agree, but for recording rehersals in your tech illiterate guitar players house it comes handy
Remember a user that posted a screenshot in one of these threads that was a 12+ track proyect with breakdowns and everything. Everyone thought it was b8 but he was dead serious and even posted timestamps. One of the weirdest/most autistic shits I saw in Cred Forums, and I'm here since 2011
Carson Cook
are you suggesting ableton isn't the best loop based sequencer to date for hardware?
Brody Walker
have fun only ever producing where your desktop is located
Gabriel Martinez
so guise what's your favorite mic/type of mic and mic technique?
Bentley Russell
It's free now? As far as I can remember It needed a key and is not cross platform as Audacity, shit works natively in Solaris for fucks sake
Ryder Garcia
there are bandcamp threads I think, maybe there
Isaac Garcia
Hey I'm looking for a vst called Pseudograins and every download I find is 404'd anyone got a backup?
Luis Sullivan
It was free since the beginning, it will just piss you off with the "continue demoing" stuff everytime you log it in so yeah I guess it's not "free" free.
Austin Edwards
>current year >not using Push2 with a legit Live Suite >still wasting money on a beaten up MPC bcs "muh jjos"
Nigga pls
Leo Reyes
>ableton can't into film scoring how would it be worse than any other daw for this?
Aiden Collins
>film scoring in a DAW
Julian James
as opposed to what?
Parker Garcia
i score film with Reason slaved to ProTools. it's fantriffic! although Reason does some fuckery when you change the tempo map in 'tools but it works
Angel Foster
paper and pen ;)
Andrew Rivera
What is Cubase, DP, ProTools, Logic, Sonar, FL, Reaper
Noah Jackson
that only works if you have an orkestruh to do the rest
Kevin Cooper
It sounds so shit. Vst emulations sound way better imo.
Jordan Williams
please show me a vst emulator that even comes close
seriously, i want one
Dylan Harris
ones that can import video and arrange the musical grid by frames
Nathaniel Nguyen
As a complete beginner in music production, what should I use to start out?
I'm an amateur drummer, which might contribute with some knowledge of music.
Jaxson Butler
I don't think Phoscyon sounded bad when I last used it. I also remember using Oomek's Aggressor303 and being happy with the results. Been a while though. There's also VB303 if you hate usability.
Ryder Lewis
What do you want to make?
Leo Thomas
Anyone who knows both FL and Ableton?
Adam Collins
damn that original 303 screams!!!!!
Ryan Kelly
just pick a DAW and mess around with some VSTs
Daniel Moore
How many among us here bought their DAWs?
Easton Brooks
>faggotbuysaDAW.jpg
Jacob Mitchell
I did. I stopped pirating when I got a job.
Angel Jackson
what?
Levi Thompson
Good for you user!
Isaiah Rivera
i buy all my doz plugings-in and other software. it's the correct thing.
Luke Collins
How would you compare them?
Isaac Flores
For now, hip-hop beats with trap elements and some jazz influences (if I can). Inspirations are Shlohmo, Shigeto, Onra..
I messed around with FL Studio but the workflow kinda irked me, dunno why. I too much into synth generation with Citrus though, might be what put me off. I'm still not really sure of what a VST really is.
Isaac Sanders
I did.
Evan Parker
I have bought them in the past, but since this is a hobby for me, i can't afford to keep buying the new versions every time they come out just so i can use newer hardware/controllers.
they will get my money if i ever make money
Jonathan Peterson
>Noisia uses foobar on their studio pcs Based.
Leo Reyes
What irked you about the workflow?
Brandon Martin
First of all, everything seems too scattered. I seem to have to open 5 different menus/windows to change one single track to my liking.
I also wish there was a better way to get a beat down without clicking one cell at a time, but I guess this has nothing to do with the DAW itself, and more to do with the fact that I don't have a physical interface to use.
Are other DAW's similar to FL? Should I just stick to it?
Colton Jenkins
Every DAW has a piano roll, you can slice the bars if you want 1/4s or 64/4s but thats about it. Look at Ableton it has no windows.
William Brown
Septuplets pham
Zachary Clark
...
Adrian Campbell
FL is good if it was your first DAW and got used to its workflow, Live is better in every aspect. There is a reason why there are so many external controllers for Live and none for other DAWs, playing a gig with FL is a potential nightmare
How can you get the piano/organ sound on this? vsts or anything, i am new at this
Julian Scott
>Do NOT post clyps for feedback when did this happen
Evan Garcia
when the soundcloud trash and tripfags started leaking here I'd assume
Luke Thompson
>ableton can't into film scoring yes it can
Liam Roberts
How the fuck do i crack fl studios 12.3, youtube is shit, and i cant find anything on google, except for more shit
Carter Murphy
Is HAAS actually useful when you mix?
read the readme
Samuel Gonzalez
Oktava Mk-012 matched pair
Trying to mic acoustic piano
Blake Phillips
Where can I find the absolute best samples of classic drum machines?
Hunter Lee
How do I start reading a 700 page book without feeling overwhelmed and losing focus and getting bored mid page? I'm like at p.48 and feel like I can't do it.
Luke King
kontakt surprisingly
Colton Ross
>one microphone lol
Landon Evans
hell yeah, I actually just ordered the ~Komplete last night, waiting for my DL link.
Luis Lewis
Some user had a huge sample bank he used to post. I only saved the CR78 cause I have anything else I might need. Now I just need a good sequencer with CR78 rhythms
Leo Walker
Learn how to read fast, or just skip the parts that bore you and skip to ones that don't and comeback when you need it
Yeh seriously homie there's a megalink on tpb for every kontakt expansion pack ever created then u don't even have to patch them or keygen you just replace the .ninct and wallpaper and you're hans fuckin zimmer
Gavin Morales
>kontakt
aren't those sample libraries insanely huge? don't sample based VSTs cripple your CPU?
I feel like I'm constantly fighting for space on my 500gb laptop drive and almost peaking my CPU already once i'm at final mix down stage.
Isaiah Cox
>500gb laptop drive yeh one spitfire library alone would fill up like 25% of your hard drive. As far as memory, it can be strangely low! Some of those big string patches even can suck up as little as like 10mb while other ones do take up to a gig (one taiko drums one I have eats .73gb). It really just depends on the library, and the patch but kontakt was designed to save cpu.
Ryder Miller
oh it also depends heavily on the patch. The taiko patch I'm talking about is a multi. Every key is loaded with a velocity-varying sample making it relentless on the memory. If you just track out shit like that on a seperate project and bounce, or do it in the proj file and freeze it you'll have 0 issues.
Hunter Price
how do I get that organic sound like glenn astro or flylo?
I've tried filtering snares and claps, adding noise, stacking samples. offbeat and swing. but there's still something about the grooves they have in their beats. I'm thinking something about shaker lines underlining the groove that don't quite sound as good theirs
Robert Hernandez
I didn't buy it for drum samples. I bought it for instruments and effects.
Nathan Rogers
Drop water pouring and bath sounds in and mix them so they are not heard but you can still feel the flowing.
Connor Lee
Play stuff by hand or offset notes by sixteenths
wa la
Carter Mitchell
The thing is that if I read fast it won't register in my head, but I'll try I guess.
Logan Cruz
getting the groove is the easiest part. are you familiar with sidechaining kick to bass/synth?
Luis Robinson
You don't need to register everything and you won't know the book on first reading anyway, so get a highlighter and read it again after.
Michael Jones
yes. but I'm talking about hats and shakers
listen to this: youtube.com/watch?v=_12JOdTYFwU I've tried getting a similar sound by playing with the hat and shaker levels, but I just cant get that bumpy sound. I've been close , but maybe Im not using the right samples
Wyatt Johnson
u67 are probably my all time favorites
Isaac Scott
Relax, take your time, it isn't a race. You need to just sit there, take notes, and focus on making sense of everything in your head so you actually absorb the text. Fuck the outside world, reading is about you and the text, nothing more. You're studying and you don't have to take people's phone calls trying to pull you away from it.
Joshua Peterson
what did she mean by this
Andrew Anderson
thats really easy to program and you could replicate the sounds easily as well. get a 909 open hat, speed the sample up a bit and then mess around with eq/high and low pass filters plus some distortion. same w the shaker sound
Zachary Jones
idk, is this supposed to be a funny post?
Michael Anderson
maybe you could figure out the programming by importing the song into your daw, matching up bpm and then taking a look at your grid?
Mason Jackson
what a whore
Lucas Watson
good idea m9
also good idea. thanks brehs
Easton Reyes
senpai imma blow your mind
MPC 16 Swing - 65
Aiden Carter
I don't have an mpc. can I use the swing meter on fl studio or the offset knob for hats? I've tried using the swing meter but it fucks up with the whole beat
Ian Taylor
Anyone know a good mic for folky/acoustic stuff? I've been using a Zoom H1 for years now. Been happy with it because I never cared about recording quality but now I finally do. Also my apartment is right by a highway and quiet recordings are impossible since it picks up everything around it.
Noah Brown
find another space to record in first then get a pair of rode nt5 or similar
Owen Davis
Throw in into a different patter and swing it alone
Chase Russell
Do people seriously use Ableton? >retarded piano roll and mixer >no mouse wheel adjusting >no stereo/mono pan I can feel the tumors on my body yet I can't quit.
Kayden Cook
I don't know how to do it in FL Studio. But there should be an area to adjust swing.
Some daw/sequencers can emulate the swing of other popular gear. MPC swing is commonly used for that funky house timing
Blake Long
>That feel when I went from abelton to all hardware and now I'm thinking about going back to ableton Wew
Ayden Morales
I so agree.
Ableton is cool because there's little visual clutter and you can get to things relatively quickly. But holy shit is it missing in basic fucking functions.
No I don't want to hold down ctrl and alt just to fucking pan, are you fucking kidding me?
It's also missing some pretty crucial stuff. Wannabes who hate FL because they think that's how you earn cool points are missing out on it's intuitive routing and built in dry/wet that allows you to fucking dry/wet even if the VST doesn't support it. Unlike Ableton where you have to build a fucking autist chain for something as basic as that.
You can't quit because you're too lazy to switch. I know the feel bro, too lazy as well.
Wyatt Collins
So from where does /prod/ download/pirate their plugins? Please help
Jaxon Kelly
I see no problem with ableton's piano roll. Works just fine for me.
Jose Gray
I wish Fruity Loops would update the look, its like its stuck in the 90s
Christian Foster
are you recording straight onto tape?
Zachary Reed
I know that feel. I started with FL, then switched to Ableton, then went back to FL after discovering Ableton's shortcomings. Ableton's piano roll is a joke compared to FL's.
>i mean clyp is basically just an alternate soundcloud now that people have accounts and stuff. Then why don't we switch to something else?
Xavier Long
saw wave with quick pitch rising with some lite filter action going on. those sounds are usually just a saw or square wave with a pitch envelope
Jaxon Anderson
A drum rack inside a drum rack drum rack drum rack Drum rack
Julian Rodriguez
I am on FL actually but wanted to see what the differences between these two are. Look at FL 12+
Jason Myers
Rustie is the king of these sounds. He peppers them all over his tracks and it's kind of the standard now in wonky music. example: [youtube.com/watch?v=s4AqCrR_nAU] [Remove]
It's plain and simple pitch modulation -- not with an oscillator, but with and ADSR envelope.
Sylenth is my go-to, so here's how to do it there: -Right click MENU to choose "init preset" -Choose your waveform oscillator 1(I like saw waves for this) -Make the AMP envelope 0.05 att, 5.0 dec, sustain all the way up, 1.0 release -Now comes the modulation: go to Mod Env1, in the mod env drop down menu choose Pitch a, set the amount to 3.30, set the att to 6.30, decay all the way up, sustain OFF, release 1
Now you have a basic laser sound. Obviously you can shorten the amp sustain and decay and the mod env attack and decay to get shorter more staccato sounds.
Samuel Diaz
Bump, pls
Wyatt Sanchez
torrent
Jeremiah Thompson
anyone know if there are any qwerty keyboards with built in midi controllers? a combo of sorts
Carter Kelly
>that lamp in the upper left Spoopy
Jacob Hall
DOES THIS NOT LOOK MODERN YOU DuMB NlGGER???
Carter Adams
No I usually record into my 404. Then I throw it into my computer from my card.
Julian Nelson
What site though, I've looked at a bunch and none have what I want
Jayden Nelson
fuck is that what fl studio looks like? gross
Aiden Watson
give up and kill yourself
Josiah Jackson
What do we think of iZotope Neutrino? It's free so there's no excuse not to give it a try.
Ryan Phillips
I just google what I want with torrent after that or I try sites like kat, tbp, rutracker. What are you looking for?
Hunter Mitchell
lol 32 bit
Angel Nguyen
The Audiospillage Elektroid drum machine Guess I'll just keep looking
Landon Sanders
wow that plugin looks like gimiky useless shit
Bentley Cooper
i enjoy most izotope stuff. this looks like another distraction from learning how to properly mix. still gonna try it out
Liam Powell
lol please tell me you know how to dry/wet via racks in ableton? i get that you're saying fl does it more easily, but its pretty easy in ableton
Jordan Fisher
What's even the point of this plugin?
Carson Ward
to add "detail" duh
Isaiah Barnes
yes
Logan Russell
I'm really new to producing and I was thinking about getting a midi keyboard of some sorts. I was thinking a launchkey 49 but is there something better I could get around that price?
Brody Fisher
really you should be looking at 88 keys, but if you have to get a 49 key, make sure it has mono midi.
Levi Perez
>still forcing that meme
Jacob Watson
you've posted this exact post already
Nicholas James
mmm lovely mics!
oh i didn't mean to imply that. i got dickloads of mics, about 40 mics with active commissions and about 20 collector/vintage/show/refurb/for sale pieces
those are amazing. it is posiible to get acceptible neumann clones for many models, but they just don't usually compete in a shootout.
Anyone know any techniques to kind of filter a sound/clip to be better quality? Reverb seems to help phenomenally on vocals. I'm wondering if there are other things people use?
Owen Nguyen
Just record with a better mic in the first place. You can't shine a turd.
Nicholas Ramirez
I'm talking about samples
Joseph Scott
clyp.it/a125o1pt some user posted a clyp with some brit taking about brown bread. finally got around to making a song with it
Henry Young
double with a short delay (20-50ms) or add a slap delay (~100ms). EQing the slap delay so it's not as present or not as "toney" as the main vocal can help too. adding a series of early reflections as opposed to a fullr everb can work too, as long as you don't make it sound like they're singing in the closet (kanye excepted). parallel compression on a dynamic vocal can work wonders as well, or zooming way in and riding every curve and transient of the waveform with volume automation can be glorious too.
Dylan Evans
Are you asking about masking the shitty quality of a recording or some low bit rate youtube rip? Or are you literally just asking "how do i mix"?
Parker Bailey
>or zooming way in and riding every curve and transient of the waveform with volume automation can be glorious too fuck i cant even imagine how tedious that must be
Blake Hughes
lol you spend 1 hour a night making 'beats'. get real. none of u are going to make money. fucking clowns
Angel Flores
I make 4.5 million dollars a year, asshole.
Tyler Cook
Good stuff thanks
>masking the shitty quality of a recording This one I guess
Christopher Barnes
It's not about the money...
It's about the bitches
Nathaniel Brown
yeah but you're sposta have a work ethic that's results-oriented. a lot of pro engineers do this and i've resorted to it a few times myself and you can really pull and massage magic out of the vocals. and you can avoid all the tell-tale artifacts of compression - pumping, sandpapery sibilance and breaths, the nasally portion oft he vocal beingweirdly exaggerated at times, etc.
>pro tip: this is what leonard cohen's engineer/producer team have been doing on his vocals the last 20 years or so because his voice is a perfect contender for sounding like shit through a compressor
Sebastian Baker
>none of u are going to make money. i do it as a hobby. i already make $30 an hour as a chef at wendys so money isn't a concern for me
Charles Murphy
im not doubting it im just saying that i would stress me out. one thing i hate most is zooming in and fading shit and trying to fix placement.
Hunter Adams
loser
Elijah Brown
shut the fuck up, wendy's is fucking based.
Levi Hughes
Volume automation on vocals is super important. It's important for most things in a mix, but especially vocals. Compression is good for evening out and shaping the sound, but it can only go so far. I know engineers who spend probably like 30-40% of their mixing time just riding faders and doing automation.
Juan Cox
you should really get balls-deep into it sometime, could be duper rewarding. the only thing i can't stress enough - only use your ears! tight volume automation in a D'AW like that is so visually biased you end up hearing what you see and you lose focus really easily. you gotta keep your auditory cortex completely running the show and keep your visual cortex totally passive and submissive to your ears
John Smith
of course, but what i was talking about was miniscule detailed volume automation that couldn't ever be "performed" or done on a fader, as opposed to the more standard performed dynamic swells and mutes and fades and stuff
Alexander Nelson
Well, there's your problem Are those your mics?
Matthew Smith
>Are those your mics? yeah, those ones are the my refurbs/for sale/display/collector's items. my actual workhorse mics i keep in storage and not on display. i like keeping the old ones out because they're pretty and impressive and historical and junk.
Jack Bell
That's what I was talking about as well.
Nathan Edwards
What bit rate sample rate and dithering options is ideal for exporting a track?
James Campbell
oh ok. cool beans then!
Cooper Howard
Is that a new picture?
Jack Foster
it depends, but generally when you're "done" with something you should export to 24 bit, dither to 24 bit (at least significant bit) and 44.1kHz is fine.
now, if you're putting it on video it should be and stay 48kHz of course, if it's for HD video 96kHz, if you're sending it to hi-def mastering they might want it all mixed and rendered at 88.2kHz or 96kHz or higher. it depends what you're starting with as well.
Camden Taylor
not really, think i took that in march. i've since bought some and sold some
Levi Evans
cant you just use c6
Jordan Richardson
Yeah it seems you just saved a picture you saw on diy. Nice try though
Camden Davis
what's c6?
Joseph Cox
Multiband compression is much different from volume automation. Not really comparable
Brayden Evans
sheeeeeeite, busted :3
Kevin Brooks
Bought a MK249 for $320, did I fuck up?
Brandon Rivera
listen to me you friggin n*gger I have worked with people from cher to jerred leto so you can shove it
Carson Gutierrez
bit saucey for /prod/ †bh
Henry Martin
>Oh yeah these are my for sale mics >hasn't sold >at all lol
Hunter Morgan
I've worked very closely with jared from subway so you can kiss my scrotal sack
Mason Hughes
not true actually! i've sold several. the ones "on display" are at the end of the line or they still need some work done to be saleable. i had 5 of the sony F-78s (far right) and only one is left, had two harman-kardon DM-11s and sold one, had two Akai ADM-8s and one ADM-13 and sold two, had two sony f-98s and sold one, and so forth.
the cooler looking ones i've been more reluctant to part with, until i need the cash anyway. whatever, why do you care anyway
Xavier King
lolol jk please tell me what the differences are
Joseph Lopez
hello /prod/ just landed an internship from a local studio now what?
Ayden Richardson
what more youtube tutorials.
this post better be a joke btw
Josiah Powell
*watch
David Hernandez
Volume automation is self explanatory, it is the automation of the level of the audio
Multi-band compression is compression that reacts differently to different frequency ranges
Be reliable, show that you want to learn, learn stuff on your own time to supplement what you learn in the studio, be patient. I work at a studio and I think the thing that is important is that you look like you have potential. You don't have to know everything and be an expert already, you're still a beginner; but you have to come off as a person who has forward momentum and isn't just there for college credit or something.
Brayden Ward
Mark?
Joshua Brown
no
who's mark
Chase Bailey
nobody, anymore
Jeremiah Watson
ok ok how do I make myself look like I have potential. also not to pry or anything but how much do you make I would like to definitely per sure this carer but I would like to get paid a good ammount so many times I hear of people living paycheck to paycheck which sounds horrible desu
why would that post be a joke
Henry Wilson
Buy a sleeping bag.
Nathan Ross
find best local grub options
Gabriel Bennett
Arturia B3
Juan James
then you're trying to get in the wrong business it needs loads of hard work to make a similar amount of money someone like a store manager can make easily well paid positions are basically not a thing and the only thing that really pays is freelance work which needs all your time and dedication
Ayden Reyes
kontakt looks pretty fucking cool. How does it compare with ableton in terms of sampling? I've been using hardware to sample and I think kontakt might just make me want to pull out my midi controller.
Juan Cox
damn I mean I don't wanna be money bags but I want decent income
Henry Hughes
sorry, m808
Parker Howard
shit son so why get into it?
baka this is depressing
Joshua Parker
I'm not very far into my career yet. I interned for a few years on and off while going to college, then got a job pretty much straight out of college at the place I was an intern at. Been working there since January making 20$ an hour. I generally work around 20-30 hours per week.
I think the important thing is to be interested and to ask questions. My boss one time was considering firing an intern because he seemed like he had "kind of a hang-out vibe, like he doesn't really do anything". That was just the kids personality though, and I let my boss know that he was always asking questions and trying to learn stuff, so my boss kept him and now he's doing good.
Some specific advice is to learn to do the basic stuff around the studio that needs to be done, like setting up mics and stuff. The more you know how to do, the more of an asset you are. If I know an intern knows how to correctly mic up a drum kit, then I'm going to want him around.
You should torrent Lynda.com's series Audio Recording Techniques with Bobby Owsinski. It goes over a lot of basic stuff that you should know about if you're going to be working in a recording studio.
Dylan Davis
because you love it and don't give a fuck if that's not the case then look for something else and keep your hobby
Noah Reyes
Lynda.com's series Audio Recording Techniques with Bobby Owsinski.
will do now I should probably start getting ready to head out to the studio, also I did not go to college so idk mang pps my boss doesn't really show me ya know what I mean? like he'll just tell me ok do this or if any thing he'll just do it him self while I watch, but I guess it's better than nothing
ok ok I love it
Luis Anderson
>so idk mang pps my boss doesn't really show me ya know what I mean? I literally do not know what you mean
>while I watch, but I guess it's better than nothing Yeah that's another aspect of it, don't expect to be doing a whole lot. Studios vary a lot, so they might throw you right into the fray at the beginning or you might spend a year doing nothing but watching.
Tyler Perez
thanks for your time I will be here later got2go
Ayden Brown
Meant mpk249
Robert Lopez
Cool Edit Pro > Cubase > Cool Edit Pro > Adobe Audition (Shit) > Reason (Hated it) > Fruity Loops (Worst DAW ever) > Ableton & Logic > Ableton only
Cubase is the only traditional DAW I'd think of using outside of Ableton again. Adobe ruined Cool Edit Pro.
Jace Diaz
>retarded piano roll and mixer real men use midi controllers... no idea why you're hating on the mixer >no mouse wheel adjusting have never felt handicapped by just dragging up/down >no stereo/mono pan and again, so what?
this sure was a textbook >OMG LE DISABLETON IS USELESS CUZ IT DUZNT HAVE THESE 4 NICHE BULLSHIT FEATURES I WANT IT TO 0/10 WORST DAW shitpost
Hudson Gutierrez
>No I don't want to hold down ctrl and alt just to fucking pan, are you fucking kidding me? then just adjust the pan knob you fucking mongoloid >intuitive routing and built in dry/wet that allows you to fucking dry/wet even if the VST doesn't support it. Unlike Ableton where you have to build a fucking autist chain for something as basic as that. i can think of like one or two vst's in my collection that dont have a dry/wet. also nothing is wrong with ableton's routing
Jeremiah Morris
Reason 5 > fl studio > ableton
Gabriel Sanchez
pro audio torrents
Brody Diaz
adobe seriously ruins everything
Daniel Harris
>another distraction from learning how to properly mix it's supposed to make things sound better, not mix them for you
Angel Torres
>built in dry/wet that allows you to fucking dry/wet even if the VST doesn't support it >what are return channels guess how we know you're a hobbyist subnormal
Benjamin Bailey
anyone?
Samuel Scott
No idea, but how are the knob upgrades on your es-1? Better than the shit originals that wobble and hard to find tune?
Brayden Miller
I've only just begun to try learning this stuff and I have a problem. I have made a very simple melody with some simple drums but my instrumental still sounds incomplete. What should I do when I don't know what to add due to lack of knowledge?
I told myself I'm actually going to finish this one and I'm not giving up.
Josiah Bennett
trial and error. get some synth pads in there, use your intuition, be bold. if it's garbage MEAN IT, if it's not garbage MEAN IT
Hudson Martinez
Not mine I just grabbed one about a week ago. I'm going to upgrade them though as the wiggly knobs was one of the first thing I noticed. This one's mine.
James Johnson
you must let yourself be bad in order to improve
Hunter Gray
Thx
Gabriel Garcia
highly recommended 8-tracks?
Connor Thomas
What's a decent pair of monitors i can get for about $300 or less? I know I can't get anything great for that much, I just need something good enough for mixing
James King
I'm guessing you mean analog? Do you want one that records to cassettes or reels?
>tfw when the feels are too real for these reels
Bentley Clark
Why aren't there any ableton cracks that actually work? Whenever I use any of them it says I still need the authorization file, you'd think it'd be easier to find when so many ppl use it or want to use it
Cooper Jenkins
cassette or reel would be fine. just want to record shitty soundscapes that i like to make so i can listen to them
Samuel Allen
Maybe get some Yamaha HS5s off ebay. Whatever you get, get it off of ebay and save money. Or just used in general.
Michael Smith
I've been looking too, it really depends on your budget though. If you can afford one and will actually learn how to use it well go for a fostex or tascam reel to reel.
If you just want something basic, cheap, and easy to use, get something like the Tascam 488, Yamaha mt8x, or a Fostex.
Jace Morales
the chingliu one works but i think that was on KAT IIRC
Dominic Martin
fuck, i never even opened the manual yet figured out everything quickly. if it takes someone extreme brain power to loop, they're retarded.
Juan Ross
so if i have the budget, get a fostex or a tascam, but if i dont have the budget, i should get a fostex or a tascam? maybe a Yamaha?
Jayden Bell
is there a program/website out there that measures the difference between two different audio outputs in terms of things like EQ balance,stereo seperation, etc. ?
Gavin Hernandez
I don't know about directly showing the differences between two pieces of audio, but you can individually analyze pieces of audio with plugins like the waves PAZ Analyzer. Then you could just compare the two yourself
Tyler Reed
>gear why are we not aloud to post music? my audio interface and laptop are not shown. trying to sell some stuff to get a mic soon. thinking an akg c1000. any recommendations. am mostly interested in recording instruments, but will try to record some vocals too.
Jaxson Russell
it's called a Dual FFT analyzer. that can show you difference in spectrum, coherence, correlation, group delay, etc. all of which can be configured to show you stereo separation, overall or frequency-dependent time delays, etc. you might even have to setup a couple of them to get real fancy. i don't know any plugins that do that but i'm sure they exist. i use ElectroAcoustics Toolbox because I have an Appletosh but you can do such things with Systune, EASERA, SMAART, SpectrPlus, Matlab if you're superclever
Jordan Morales
because "muh anonymity" is collapsing inwards on itself like a black hole
Daniel Edwards
ok
William Adams
how
James Parker
oooh nice! what nord is that? nords are more than just GOAT. they're LAMB, SHEEP, and DONKEY all rolled into one
Xavier Roberts
because you're no longer allowed to post music in a production thread lol, it's easy to see the humour in that if you arent you people
Jacob Cook
thanks these are perfect, ive been using mediocre outputs for a while these willl help nicely for now
Caleb Hill
it's the 2x. It's really nice!I love playing it the keys and knobs and everything are really nice. The drum mode is really crazy.
Luke Morris
um what? all i said was "how". what makes you think I'm affiliated with the people you refer to in your post? Also you still didn't answer me
Josiah Flores
But you can post music, just not the name associated with the music. There are soundcloud threads if you want to post your soundcloud.
Ethan Russell
>because you're no longer allowed to post music in a production thread
Nathan Gray
...
Hunter Price
that doesn't explain how " 'muh anonymity' is collapsing inwards on itself like a black hole" is true
Aiden Parker
that's apparently not the rule anymore though
Angel Gray
one random guy deciding he doesn't like seeing people post clyps for feedback so he adds in a line to the general text he copied and pasted doesn't change the rules on the general though
Samuel Flores
i don't have enough inputs at home for such a masturbatory micglory
one time in the studio i used 32 mics on a drum kit though. it was bananas. ended-up eliminating about half of them because why.
Lincoln Peterson
comfy music making room.
can someone explain this joke to me? do people actually use tons of mics on on snare?
Jonathan Powell
Didn't notice OP. Yeah that's stupid and nobody agrees with him. Just post your clyps
Caleb Gonzalez
what is the advantage of having so many mics on a kit?
Kevin Campbell
Read the OP dude
>Do NOT post clyps for feedback, only post clyps for the purposes of discussing how to get X sound >do NOT post for feedback
Jesus christ its not that hard
Liam Martin
Options, flexibility, stereo image, control. If you mic the rack tom, then you have control over it rather than trying to get it sounding right with just the overheads. If you mic the Kick drum inside and out then you can mix them together and get the best of both. It's mostly just stuff like that
Owen Flores
he seems to be pushing it pretty hard in this thread, here he is again lol
Isaiah Parker
eeeeh it's a big topic and kinda has to be looked-at on a case-by-case basis.
one approach to production is to intimately record every single element of the drum kit for perfect control. so, if the kit is huge you might have a mic on ever drum, two on the snare, 5 on the kick, one for every cymbal and at least one on hats. then you have various ways of recording overheads, 2, 4, 6 mics... plus various room mics. with skill and practice this can lead to a face-meltingly perfect drum kit sound. but i think it's pretty lame. getting an awesome sound with as few mics as possible is way more fun. anyone can paint a detailed picture with a million brush strokes, but try pulling it off with just a few!
but anyway, even when i'm being minimalist about drum miking room mics are a ton of fun to play around with, even if you don't end-up really using them.
>3m room mics >10m room mics >ceiling room mics >room mics on the diffusor >room mics in the next room with the door open >etc
Adam Price
>32 mics on a drum kit wtf? you're just asking for phase issues, user.
it's making fun of clickbait production articles and youtube tutorials.
Oliver Brown
>wtf? you're just asking for phase issues, user. indeed. but, they were mostly close-miked and the various OHs and rooms were measured and aimed in such ways as to minimize that.
buuuuuuut we didn't use half that shit, we just had the option to pick and choose. was a fuckin mess and stupid waste of time but fun. my typical drum setup might be like 10 mics, unless i'm going minimal in which case it's anywhere between 1 and 6
if i had 32 mics, i would do the same thing, so i understand. how big is your drum booth/room?
Joshua Wilson
Anyone have suggestions for having reverb flow more invisibly through the background in a sense? Theirs a lot of songs where the reverb feels like it has a much different tone than I've been able to get using fruity convolver, and various other IR reverb's (alongside other styles of reverb)
Jackson Thompson
this wasn't at "my" studio (i don't have a studio i've just worked at a few). here's one of the larger rooms though, "semi" live... carpet, wood, plaster, and stone. tons of goddamn fun! and the ceiling changes height as well... it was off the hook. this is the kinda room wher eyou can pull off 32 mics :3
Lucas Carter
highpassing? predelay? longer reverb times? sidechain to the dry signal?
Daniel Lewis
and here's the "live" room, used a lot for drums but only when you want fatty reverb. the plywood floor is essential. if you remove the plywood and expose the stone floor you can't even talk in that room, it's so fucking reverberant.
Luke Edwards
>sidechain to the dry signal? jesus christ why have i never thought of that
Christopher Campbell
garbage.
whoa, that's badass. reminds me of this abandoned church my buddy and i used to record in. we had to install plywood on the floors as well. 25 ft ceilings!
Bentley Perry
>abandoned church fugg i would love to have a place like that. my last job was at a large, old, and prestigious college that had buildings like that. it was a fucking uphill battle though to be able to get in and record in them so it never really happened. i quit once that became apparent kek
Ayden Rodriguez
why is it garbage
Jack Fisher
>sidechain to the dry signal? ??? (my goal is to have the reverb sound a lot more organic)
Adam Long
I spent a lot of time researching this price range. You basically need to decide between Yahmaha HS5 and JBL LSR305. I went with the JBL because they had a noticeably better bass in store, especially for being 5"
There are a couple good comparison videos of those 2 models on YouTube
Caleb Walker
didn't last very long. some builder told us to fuck off after a few months. what i'd really love is to be able to record a kit in one of those underground aquariums with the solid concrete floors and walls. makes my dick hard thinking about it. >uphill battle to record your own music at the place you work fuckin a. this place i'm working at now offered me a discount to record. a discount! i can't wait to quit this job and do sound editing for shitty soap operas. one can only dream.
ask this guy
Matthew Morris
you said flow invisibly through the background. if it's subtly ducking when the dry signal hits, it could help achieve that.
Gabriel Nguyen
Those are some clutch devices there.
Cooper Powell
yeah some places suck. i didn't even want to record myself in there, i wanted to record others, usually performances that were going on already and nobody was recording them! pipe organs, choral groups, that short of shit. every time i emailed the event/group i would get cockblocked.
i do a bit of urbex and have been in some pretty impressive sounding buildings like the aquarium you mention, but i never bring recording gear or anything. should start just recording some impulse responses though.
i have some acoustic design software that will painstakingly render mono, or binaural impulse responses of anything you design. i fuck around with it a lot to come-up with some crazy stuff
>Do NOT post clyps for feedback, only post clyps for the purposes of discussing how to get X sound wasn't asking for feedback m8. i like and maybe many more people like hearing other peoples WIP. nothing wrong with posting your WIP and feedback.
Jaxson Diaz
shut up, newfag.
Nolan Thomas
aight cool i've been coming here for 2 years now and i've never seen that in the OP. i give feedback all the time so i don't really care to follow this silly rule.
Joshua Peterson
OP is good-intentioned but he has no power here. i wouldn't worry about it
Julian Walker
It's official. Everyone post their clyps.
Jack Kelly
eh, thread's about to 404, i'd wouldn't bother with it anymore
John Foster
just wait clypset is about to post like a million of his
Jackson Wright
>i wanted to record others ah, spoken like a true philanthropist. my pipe dream in college was to own a recording studio so i could offer production services at charitable rates. it wasn't until my third semester when i really started thinking about the cost of keeping a studio running. anyway, now i'm working for some dickheads who don't know what they're doing and this studio will fail in the next couple of months. sorry if it seems like i'm rambling. i get very little sleep. did i mention i work close to 15 hours a day? it's pretty awesome. fuck my employers. fuck them very much and very hard. anyway, i just googled urbex and now i can say i'm somewhat familiar with it. don't think i could do it, though. you ever think to just bring a cheap multitracker with you? i'm not sure how much it would weigh you down. not a fan of field recordings, myself. some people are; good for them. great for them. i'm not. i never did dick around with impulse responses. i have some buddies who swear by them for room sounds. nice clip, by the way. is that an IR of a room you were in?
i'm just being an asshole, user. that guy has autism or something. post whatever you want. or don't.
Matthew Bell
>>room mics in the next room with the door open
I got to try stuff like that. even through a floor or door might sound cool