/prod/ Production Knowledge General

Talk about sound design, music production and mixing.

Do NOT post clyps for feedback, only post clyps for the purposes of discussing how to get X sound

(Obligatory mixing course)
>The Art of Mixing by David Gibson
youtu.be/TEjOdqZFvhY

(Obligatory synthesis course + additional related videos)
>Intro to Synthesis by New York School of Synthesis
youtu.be/atvtBE6t48M

YouTube channels that you should subscribe to:

>Point Blank Music School
youtube.com/channel/UCIWNozFjO8yVdJFsGKVmPgg

>Pensado's Place
youtube.com/user/PensadosPlace

>SeamlessR (in-depth music production and sound design tutorials, based on FL Studio)
youtube.com/user/SeamlessR

>BusyWorksBeats (same as above, a lot of good new content coming)
youtube.com/user/busyworksbeats

>ADSR Music Production Tutorials
youtube.com/channel/UCf5UKh_cj2_5pUomhyswWYQ

>Justin Omoi
youtube.com/channel/UCMnmXvv9JHJPsrrob-gEn5A

>WarBeats
youtube.com/user/nfxbeats/videos

>Samori Coles (not many videos, but a few good ones on compression and EQ)
youtube.com/user/homestudiotutor/videos

>Modern Mixing
youtube.com/user/ModernMixing/videos

>Image Line Tutorials (for FL Studio users)
youtube.com/user/imageline/playlists

Other urls found in this thread:

clyp.it/indiaymx
youtube.com/watch?v=ppfzn5BBfiQ
youtube.com/watch?v=ZuYvdkslzG0
youtube.com/watch?v=a4cX7iGM9y0
youtube.com/4lhXeTGMo2c
youtube.com/watch?v=z73CcodfT_w
youtube.com/watch?v=4lhXeTGMo2c
youtube.com/watch?v=Qg5LlsUv8Sg
mega.nz/#!rxZkHJ5Q!XRCB1CzJuIGNaeQCR7KhrdK-nm2Riii1FKnbGuyI0pg
youtube.com/watch?v=_12JOdTYFwU
spacekid.bandcamp.com/track/extragon-feat-timbol
youtube.com/watch?v=s4AqCrR_nAU]
clyp.it/lzcksq4x
youtu.be/_Gqwi7Y96sk
clyp.it/a125o1pt
clyp.it/0jz3auah
clyp.it/y2ifmwbb
clyp.it/kd4vqnl3
twitter.com/AnonBabble

clyp.it/indiaymx

youtube.com/watch?v=ppfzn5BBfiQ
how do i make the synth that comes in at 1:37? i cant fuckin nail it and its killin me. it seems so simple but its so hard

Sounds like a vocal sample pitched up with the start point moved forward to the sustain part and stretched, across the keys of a sampler playing in mono with a tiny bit of portamento.

*stretched across the keys of a sampler, not timestretch

>Do NOT post clyps for feedback, only post clyps for the purposes of discussing how to get X sound

you sure? i always thought it was just a super saw with white noise and distortion. ill give it a try tho just need to grab a good sample.

It's definitely a sampler to my ears. It does sound a bit like a supersaw but there's some harmonics in there that sound a lot like a played vocal sample

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>cant post clyps for feedback
>on a /prod/ thread
oh how things have changed

desu i always thought that prod was supposed to be more for discussion and sound design type stuff. i mean clyp is basically just an alternate soundcloud now that people have accounts and stuff.
if you want a clyp thread make a clyp thread.

how do you get this:
youtube.com/watch?v=ZuYvdkslzG0

to sound like this?:
youtube.com/watch?v=a4cX7iGM9y0

prod techniques, your WIP, prod advice, and just anything /prod/ related. clyp.it is just a place where you can upload your WIP with decent quality without making an account. not like anyone even responds to 3/4 of the WIP posted anyways lol

Feedback is too macro level tbqh and it doesn't help anyone but the person posting the clyp

It would more condusive to learning to talk about production techniques and sound design

just started using reason 5, i dl'd the pirated version and installed it on windows 8. but it won't fucking go fullscreen

hellpls

I bought version 8 and ive been using it since 4, i seem to remember until later years it wouldn't go full screen

ohh, that's why. just noticed the tutorial im watching is version 6 .. thank

Fuck off, prod gives prod and mix advice for feedback... Not the circle jerk that happens in sc threads

youtube.com/4lhXeTGMo2c

this sounds awful compared to the original. Honestly what was Roland thinking?

This.

Link doesn't work

Wot im saying is people are posting clyps without explaining how they've done it and people are giving vague feedback. People seem to be posting for warm fuzzies if someone says they like it, not actual technical advice

how do I into hiphop properly

What kind of hip-hop?

What is your DAW progression?

Reason > Sonar > Digital Performer > Sonar > Pro Tools > Cubase (current)

I'm also taking advantage of Reason's rewire

Sample heavy and lofi, you typical beattape.

i do agree alot of the newbies(lol :^) post clyp.its and its just terrible. also it depends what kind of feedback youre asking for. it's either for the whole mix or for specific parts. feedbacks are helpful and ive learned alot from the feedback ive gotten

People post clyps without say anything else becuase it's expected to get prod/mix feedback retard. You are the worst op ever

Cubase>logic>digital performer>GarageBand>ableton

don't know how much you already know but

youtube.com/watch?v=z73CcodfT_w

>get breakbeat
>copy it across pads/keys of sampler
>adjust the sample start and ends so each hit in the break is chopped to a pad/key
>write/play a beat with the samples

>get melodic hook/chords and do the same for each note/chord
>sequence something interesting with this on top of the beat

if you don't like it go make a thread for vengeance sample collages and sucking each others dick

Did you like DP?

I recently started to get serious into music prod. I did as a hobby for years but not often and friends brother taught me how to produce on reason 5. I downloaded FL Studio last weekend and made more progress in one weekend than years of reason 5, fuck that program and fuck anyone who hates on FL, that shit is simple

Yeah I did actually. But wasn't a fan of the midi sequencing. I wouldn't mind using it exclusively for mix downs in the future

Worth keeping reason if you like the rewire function. You can hook it up to FL

youtube.com/watch?v=4lhXeTGMo2c

this sounds awful compared to the original. Honestly what was Roland thinking?

really makes you think

yfw the original 303 starts playing

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This made me laugh way more than it should have. I'm also sleep deprived

I cant believe how many synths/drumboxes Moby has, its incredible

Doesn't moby use Digital Performer, not ableton?

SOMEONE GIVE ME A QUICK AND DIRTY WAY ON HOW TO SAMPLE IN ABLETON!

wtf is that andy
why does he have an afro

with the sampler

lmao audacity
you can switch it to reaper and it's still the same

dude why the fuck are you posting videos that are older than the retards in this thread? saged

how do I make a loop with the sample/

You will get better and faster results if you type this into a google or a youtube desu

drop 20 sec audio clip into session mode
right click
slice to new midi track @ 1/8th notes

by turning on loop

I'll have to try it thakns.

>20 sec
what does that have to do with anything?

you do realize theres this thing called the Live Manual, and in it it has instructions on how to use the sampler? are you that lazy and retarded? i mean really if you cant't even open up a manual to learn how to use a program you should just stop now.

lol what are you using ableton 8? dumb shit doesnt even know how to do that with just simpler.

20 sec will give user a good idea of how slice to midi works and give a good amount of sample chops to fuck with

>Arbitrary length of time
>doesn't instead give a length in bars, measures, etc.

>UR DUMM BECUZ U DON DO WHAT I DO
shut up fuckface, he literally just answered the guy's question correctly

>implying simpler is better than simpler within a drum rack

ok

>implying user has any concept of measures based newb-tier question

ok

lol no he didnt, if he answered it correctly he would have said right click and slice to midi

literally everyone thats in this thread has no future making music

>simpler is better than simpler
>simpler simpler
>simpler

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let's hear your bangurz then mr ableton instructor

fuCK

get some rest lmao

says the faggot that literally has no future in music, not even as a hobbiest

they would be wasted on your pedestrian ears

clypit or gtfo

how convenient

lol i love this thread

>hobby
>hobbier
>hobbiest

i am dah best hobbiest

shocking
shitposter can't back up shitposting

I'm so hobby right now

except audacity is free and works on every computer in existence. it might not be gr8, but it saved my ass countless times

that pic is 100% accurate thouh

Srs question: what is the best VST for vocals that can do what the TC-Helion does (pitch-shit,add layers, etc), tried Turnado (too messy) and Nectar (too advanced). Just want something simple to destroy my voice in a live setting using Ableton

baited

audacity is cool, but if you produce with it you are retarded desu

hardware mustardrace here. This is true other than ableton, just make it a picture of some poor hipster who pirated it

Is there somewhere I can post nearly completed work for feedback or should I just make my own thread for that?

Laptops are memes

reaper is free
and ableton can't into film scoring lol

Agree, but for recording rehersals in your tech illiterate guitar players house it comes handy

Remember a user that posted a screenshot in one of these threads that was a 12+ track proyect with breakdowns and everything. Everyone thought it was b8 but he was dead serious and even posted timestamps. One of the weirdest/most autistic shits I saw in Cred Forums, and I'm here since 2011

are you suggesting ableton isn't the best loop based sequencer to date for hardware?

have fun only ever producing where your desktop is located

so guise what's your favorite mic/type of mic and mic technique?

It's free now? As far as I can remember It needed a key and is not cross platform as Audacity, shit works natively in Solaris for fucks sake

there are bandcamp threads I think, maybe there

Hey I'm looking for a vst called Pseudograins and every download I find is 404'd anyone got a backup?

It was free since the beginning, it will just piss you off with the "continue demoing" stuff everytime you log it in so yeah I guess it's not "free" free.

>current year
>not using Push2 with a legit Live Suite
>still wasting money on a beaten up MPC bcs "muh jjos"

Nigga pls

>ableton can't into film scoring
how would it be worse than any other daw for this?

>film scoring in a DAW

as opposed to what?

i score film with Reason slaved to ProTools. it's fantriffic! although Reason does some fuckery when you change the tempo map in 'tools but it works

paper and pen ;)

What is Cubase, DP, ProTools, Logic, Sonar, FL, Reaper

that only works if you have an orkestruh to do the rest

It sounds so shit.
Vst emulations sound way better imo.

please show me a vst emulator that even comes close

seriously, i want one

ones that can import video and arrange the musical grid by frames

As a complete beginner in music production, what should I use to start out?

I'm an amateur drummer, which might contribute with some knowledge of music.

I don't think Phoscyon sounded bad when I last used it. I also remember using Oomek's Aggressor303 and being happy with the results.
Been a while though.
There's also VB303 if you hate usability.

What do you want to make?

Anyone who knows both FL and Ableton?

damn that original 303 screams!!!!!

just pick a DAW and mess around with some VSTs

How many among us here bought their DAWs?

>faggotbuysaDAW.jpg

I did. I stopped pirating when I got a job.

what?

Good for you user!

i buy all my doz plugings-in and other software. it's the correct thing.

How would you compare them?

For now, hip-hop beats with trap elements and some jazz influences (if I can). Inspirations are Shlohmo, Shigeto, Onra..

I messed around with FL Studio but the workflow kinda irked me, dunno why. I too much into synth generation with Citrus though, might be what put me off. I'm still not really sure of what a VST really is.

I did.

I have bought them in the past, but since this is a hobby for me, i can't afford to keep buying the new versions every time they come out just so i can use newer hardware/controllers.

they will get my money if i ever make money

>Noisia uses foobar on their studio pcs
Based.

What irked you about the workflow?

First of all, everything seems too scattered. I seem to have to open 5 different menus/windows to change one single track to my liking.

I also wish there was a better way to get a beat down without clicking one cell at a time, but I guess this has nothing to do with the DAW itself, and more to do with the fact that I don't have a physical interface to use.

Are other DAW's similar to FL? Should I just stick to it?

Every DAW has a piano roll, you can slice the bars if you want 1/4s or 64/4s but thats about it.
Look at Ableton it has no windows.

Septuplets pham

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FL is good if it was your first DAW and got used to its workflow, Live is better in every aspect.
There is a reason why there are so many external controllers for Live and none for other DAWs, playing a gig with FL is a potential nightmare

youtube.com/watch?v=Qg5LlsUv8Sg

How can you get the piano/organ sound on this?
vsts or anything, i am new at this

>Do NOT post clyps for feedback
when did this happen

when the soundcloud trash and tripfags started leaking here I'd assume

>ableton can't into film scoring
yes it can

How the fuck do i crack fl studios 12.3, youtube is shit, and i cant find anything on google, except for more shit

Is HAAS actually useful when you mix?

read the readme

Oktava Mk-012 matched pair

Trying to mic acoustic piano

Where can I find the absolute best samples of classic drum machines?

How do I start reading a 700 page book without feeling overwhelmed and losing focus and getting bored mid page? I'm like at p.48 and feel like I can't do it.

kontakt surprisingly

>one microphone
lol

hell yeah, I actually just ordered the ~Komplete last night, waiting for my DL link.

Some user had a huge sample bank he used to post. I only saved the CR78 cause I have anything else I might need. Now I just need a good sequencer with CR78 rhythms

Learn how to read fast, or just skip the parts that bore you and skip to ones that don't and comeback when you need it

mega.nz/#!rxZkHJ5Q!XRCB1CzJuIGNaeQCR7KhrdK-nm2Riii1FKnbGuyI0pg
>faggotbuysaVST.gif

Yeh seriously homie there's a megalink on tpb for every kontakt expansion pack ever created then u don't even have to patch them or keygen you just replace the .ninct and wallpaper and you're hans fuckin zimmer

>kontakt

aren't those sample libraries insanely huge? don't sample based VSTs cripple your CPU?

I feel like I'm constantly fighting for space on my 500gb laptop drive and almost peaking my CPU already once i'm at final mix down stage.

>500gb laptop drive
yeh one spitfire library alone would fill up like 25% of your hard drive. As far as memory, it can be strangely low! Some of those big string patches even can suck up as little as like 10mb while other ones do take up to a gig (one taiko drums one I have eats .73gb). It really just depends on the library, and the patch but kontakt was designed to save cpu.

oh it also depends heavily on the patch. The taiko patch I'm talking about is a multi. Every key is loaded with a velocity-varying sample making it relentless on the memory. If you just track out shit like that on a seperate project and bounce, or do it in the proj file and freeze it you'll have 0 issues.

how do I get that organic sound like glenn astro or flylo?

I've tried filtering snares and claps, adding noise, stacking samples. offbeat and swing. but there's still something about the grooves they have in their beats. I'm thinking something about shaker lines underlining the groove that don't quite sound as good theirs

I didn't buy it for drum samples. I bought it for instruments and effects.

Drop water pouring and bath sounds in and mix them so they are not heard but you can still feel the flowing.

Play stuff by hand or offset notes by sixteenths

wa la

The thing is that if I read fast it won't register in my head, but I'll try I guess.

getting the groove is the easiest part. are you familiar with sidechaining kick to bass/synth?

You don't need to register everything and you won't know the book on first reading anyway, so get a highlighter and read it again after.

yes. but I'm talking about hats and shakers

listen to this: youtube.com/watch?v=_12JOdTYFwU
I've tried getting a similar sound by playing with the hat and shaker levels, but I just cant get that bumpy sound. I've been close , but maybe Im not using the right samples

u67 are probably my all time favorites

Relax, take your time, it isn't a race. You need to just sit there, take notes, and focus on making sense of everything in your head so you actually absorb the text. Fuck the outside world, reading is about you and the text, nothing more. You're studying and you don't have to take people's phone calls trying to pull you away from it.

what did she mean by this

thats really easy to program and you could replicate the sounds easily as well. get a 909 open hat, speed the sample up a bit and then mess around with eq/high and low pass filters plus some distortion. same w the shaker sound

idk, is this supposed to be a funny post?

maybe you could figure out the programming by importing the song into your daw, matching up bpm and then taking a look at your grid?

what a whore

good idea m9

also good idea. thanks brehs

senpai imma blow your mind

MPC 16 Swing - 65

I don't have an mpc. can I use the swing meter on fl studio or the offset knob for hats? I've tried using the swing meter but it fucks up with the whole beat

Anyone know a good mic for folky/acoustic stuff? I've been using a Zoom H1 for years now. Been happy with it because I never cared about recording quality but now I finally do. Also my apartment is right by a highway and quiet recordings are impossible since it picks up everything around it.

find another space to record in first
then get a pair of rode nt5 or similar

Throw in into a different patter and swing it alone

Do people seriously use Ableton?
>retarded piano roll and mixer
>no mouse wheel adjusting
>no stereo/mono pan
I can feel the tumors on my body yet I can't quit.

I don't know how to do it in FL Studio. But there should be an area to adjust swing.

Some daw/sequencers can emulate the swing of other popular gear. MPC swing is commonly used for that funky house timing

>That feel when I went from abelton to all hardware and now I'm thinking about going back to ableton
Wew

I so agree.

Ableton is cool because there's little visual clutter and you can get to things relatively quickly. But holy shit is it missing in basic fucking functions.

No I don't want to hold down ctrl and alt just to fucking pan, are you fucking kidding me?

It's also missing some pretty crucial stuff. Wannabes who hate FL because they think that's how you earn cool points are missing out on it's intuitive routing and built in dry/wet that allows you to fucking dry/wet even if the VST doesn't support it. Unlike Ableton where you have to build a fucking autist chain for something as basic as that.

You can't quit because you're too lazy to switch. I know the feel bro, too lazy as well.

So from where does /prod/ download/pirate their plugins? Please help

I see no problem with ableton's piano roll. Works just fine for me.

I wish Fruity Loops would update the look, its like its stuck in the 90s

are you recording straight onto tape?

I know that feel. I started with FL, then switched to Ableton, then went back to FL after discovering Ableton's shortcomings. Ableton's piano roll is a joke compared to FL's.

how do I get those cool spaceship laser sounds a lot of producers use?
there's a bunch on this track so you know what Im talking about.
spacekid.bandcamp.com/track/extragon-feat-timbol

>i mean clyp is basically just an alternate soundcloud now that people have accounts and stuff.
Then why don't we switch to something else?

saw wave with quick pitch rising with some lite filter action going on. those sounds are usually just a saw or square wave with a pitch envelope

A drum rack inside a drum rack
drum rack drum rack
Drum rack

I am on FL actually but wanted to see what the differences between these two are.
Look at FL 12+

Rustie is the king of these sounds. He peppers them all over his tracks and it's kind of the standard now in wonky music. example: [youtube.com/watch?v=s4AqCrR_nAU] [Remove]


It's plain and simple pitch modulation -- not with an oscillator, but with and ADSR envelope.

Sylenth is my go-to, so here's how to do it there:
-Right click MENU to choose "init preset"
-Choose your waveform oscillator 1(I like saw waves for this)
-Make the AMP envelope 0.05 att, 5.0 dec, sustain all the way up, 1.0 release
-Now comes the modulation:
go to Mod Env1, in the mod env drop down menu choose Pitch a, set the amount to 3.30, set the att to 6.30, decay all the way up, sustain OFF, release 1

Now you have a basic laser sound. Obviously you can shorten the amp sustain and decay and the mod env attack and decay to get shorter more staccato sounds.

Bump, pls

torrent

anyone know if there are any qwerty keyboards with built in midi controllers? a combo of sorts

>that lamp in the upper left
Spoopy

DOES THIS NOT LOOK MODERN YOU DuMB NlGGER???

No I usually record into my 404. Then I throw it into my computer from my card.

What site though, I've looked at a bunch and none have what I want

fuck is that what fl studio looks like? gross

give up and kill yourself

What do we think of iZotope Neutrino? It's free so there's no excuse not to give it a try.

I just google what I want with torrent after that or I try sites like kat, tbp, rutracker.
What are you looking for?

lol 32 bit

The Audiospillage Elektroid drum machine
Guess I'll just keep looking

wow that plugin looks like gimiky useless shit

i enjoy most izotope stuff. this looks like another distraction from learning how to properly mix. still gonna try it out

lol please tell me you know how to dry/wet via racks in ableton? i get that you're saying fl does it more easily, but its pretty easy in ableton

What's even the point of this plugin?

to add "detail" duh

yes

I'm really new to producing and I was thinking about getting a midi keyboard of some sorts. I was thinking a launchkey 49 but is there something better I could get around that price?

really you should be looking at 88 keys, but if you have to get a 49 key, make sure it has mono midi.

>still forcing that meme

you've posted this exact post already

mmm lovely mics!

oh i didn't mean to imply that. i got dickloads of mics, about 40 mics with active commissions and about 20 collector/vintage/show/refurb/for sale pieces

those are amazing. it is posiible to get acceptible neumann clones for many models, but they just don't usually compete in a shootout.

clyp.it/lzcksq4x

thoughts??

Why does this motivate me to get shit done

that distorted synth is to gritty in my opinion. really distracting. try to smooth it out

because you're a badass mother who don't take no crap off of nobody!

youtu.be/_Gqwi7Y96sk

Anyone know any techniques to kind of filter a sound/clip to be better quality? Reverb seems to help phenomenally on vocals. I'm wondering if there are other things people use?

Just record with a better mic in the first place. You can't shine a turd.

I'm talking about samples

clyp.it/a125o1pt
some user posted a clyp with some brit taking about brown bread. finally got around to making a song with it

double with a short delay (20-50ms) or add a slap delay (~100ms). EQing the slap delay so it's not as present or not as "toney" as the main vocal can help too. adding a series of early reflections as opposed to a fullr everb can work too, as long as you don't make it sound like they're singing in the closet (kanye excepted). parallel compression on a dynamic vocal can work wonders as well, or zooming way in and riding every curve and transient of the waveform with volume automation can be glorious too.

Are you asking about masking the shitty quality of a recording or some low bit rate youtube rip? Or are you literally just asking "how do i mix"?

>or zooming way in and riding every curve and transient of the waveform with volume automation can be glorious too
fuck i cant even imagine how tedious that must be

lol you spend 1 hour a night making 'beats'. get real. none of u are going to make money. fucking clowns

I make 4.5 million dollars a year, asshole.

Good stuff thanks

>masking the shitty quality of a recording
This one I guess

It's not about the money...

It's about the bitches

yeah but you're sposta have a work ethic that's results-oriented. a lot of pro engineers do this and i've resorted to it a few times myself and you can really pull and massage magic out of the vocals. and you can avoid all the tell-tale artifacts of compression - pumping, sandpapery sibilance and breaths, the nasally portion oft he vocal beingweirdly exaggerated at times, etc.

>pro tip: this is what leonard cohen's engineer/producer team have been doing on his vocals the last 20 years or so because his voice is a perfect contender for sounding like shit through a compressor

>none of u are going to make money.
i do it as a hobby. i already make $30 an hour as a chef at wendys so money isn't a concern for me

im not doubting it im just saying that i would stress me out. one thing i hate most is zooming in and fading shit and trying to fix placement.

loser

shut the fuck up, wendy's is fucking based.

Volume automation on vocals is super important. It's important for most things in a mix, but especially vocals. Compression is good for evening out and shaping the sound, but it can only go so far. I know engineers who spend probably like 30-40% of their mixing time just riding faders and doing automation.

you should really get balls-deep into it sometime, could be duper rewarding. the only thing i can't stress enough - only use your ears! tight volume automation in a D'AW like that is so visually biased you end up hearing what you see and you lose focus really easily. you gotta keep your auditory cortex completely running the show and keep your visual cortex totally passive and submissive to your ears

of course, but what i was talking about was miniscule detailed volume automation that couldn't ever be "performed" or done on a fader, as opposed to the more standard performed dynamic swells and mutes and fades and stuff

Well, there's your problem
Are those your mics?

>Are those your mics?
yeah, those ones are the my refurbs/for sale/display/collector's items. my actual workhorse mics i keep in storage and not on display. i like keeping the old ones out because they're pretty and impressive and historical and junk.

That's what I was talking about as well.

What bit rate sample rate and dithering options is ideal for exporting a track?

oh ok. cool beans then!

Is that a new picture?

it depends, but generally when you're "done" with something you should export to 24 bit, dither to 24 bit (at least significant bit) and 44.1kHz is fine.

now, if you're putting it on video it should be and stay 48kHz of course, if it's for HD video 96kHz, if you're sending it to hi-def mastering they might want it all mixed and rendered at 88.2kHz or 96kHz or higher. it depends what you're starting with as well.

not really, think i took that in march. i've since bought some and sold some

cant you just use c6

Yeah it seems you just saved a picture you saw on diy. Nice try though

what's c6?

Multiband compression is much different from volume automation. Not really comparable

sheeeeeeite, busted :3

Bought a MK249 for $320, did I fuck up?

listen to me you friggin n*gger I have worked with people from cher to jerred leto so you can shove it

bit saucey for /prod/ †bh

>Oh yeah these are my for sale mics
>hasn't sold
>at all
lol

I've worked very closely with jared from subway so you can kiss my scrotal sack

not true actually! i've sold several. the ones "on display" are at the end of the line or they still need some work done to be saleable. i had 5 of the sony F-78s (far right) and only one is left, had two harman-kardon DM-11s and sold one, had two Akai ADM-8s and one ADM-13 and sold two, had two sony f-98s and sold one, and so forth.

the cooler looking ones i've been more reluctant to part with, until i need the cash anyway. whatever, why do you care anyway

lolol jk please tell me what the differences are

hello /prod/ just landed an internship from a local studio now what?

what more youtube tutorials.


this post better be a joke btw

*watch

Volume automation is self explanatory, it is the automation of the level of the audio

Multi-band compression is compression that reacts differently to different frequency ranges

Be reliable, show that you want to learn, learn stuff on your own time to supplement what you learn in the studio, be patient. I work at a studio and I think the thing that is important is that you look like you have potential. You don't have to know everything and be an expert already, you're still a beginner; but you have to come off as a person who has forward momentum and isn't just there for college credit or something.

Mark?

no

who's mark

nobody, anymore

ok ok how do I make myself look like I have potential. also not to pry or anything but how much do you make I would like to definitely per sure this carer but I would like to get paid a good ammount so many times I hear of people living paycheck to paycheck which sounds horrible desu

why would that post be a joke

Buy a sleeping bag.

find best local grub options

Arturia B3

then you're trying to get in the wrong business
it needs loads of hard work to make a similar amount of money someone like a store manager can make easily
well paid positions are basically not a thing and the only thing that really pays is freelance work which needs all your time and dedication

kontakt looks pretty fucking cool. How does it compare with ableton in terms of sampling? I've been using hardware to sample and I think kontakt might just make me want to pull out my midi controller.

damn I mean I don't wanna be money bags but I want decent income

sorry, m808

shit son so why get into it?

baka this is depressing

I'm not very far into my career yet. I interned for a few years on and off while going to college, then got a job pretty much straight out of college at the place I was an intern at. Been working there since January making 20$ an hour. I generally work around 20-30 hours per week.

I think the important thing is to be interested and to ask questions. My boss one time was considering firing an intern because he seemed like he had "kind of a hang-out vibe, like he doesn't really do anything". That was just the kids personality though, and I let my boss know that he was always asking questions and trying to learn stuff, so my boss kept him and now he's doing good.

Some specific advice is to learn to do the basic stuff around the studio that needs to be done, like setting up mics and stuff. The more you know how to do, the more of an asset you are. If I know an intern knows how to correctly mic up a drum kit, then I'm going to want him around.

You should torrent Lynda.com's series Audio Recording Techniques with Bobby Owsinski. It goes over a lot of basic stuff that you should know about if you're going to be working in a recording studio.

because you love it and don't give a fuck
if that's not the case then look for something else and keep your hobby

Lynda.com's series Audio Recording Techniques with Bobby Owsinski.

will do now I should probably start getting ready to head out to the studio, also I did not go to college so idk mang pps my boss doesn't really show me ya know what I mean? like he'll just tell me ok do this or if any thing he'll just do it him self while I watch, but I guess it's better than nothing

ok ok I love it

>so idk mang pps my boss doesn't really show me ya know what I mean?
I literally do not know what you mean

>while I watch, but I guess it's better than nothing
Yeah that's another aspect of it, don't expect to be doing a whole lot. Studios vary a lot, so they might throw you right into the fray at the beginning or you might spend a year doing nothing but watching.

thanks for your time I will be here later got2go

Meant mpk249

Cool Edit Pro > Cubase > Cool Edit Pro > Adobe Audition (Shit) > Reason (Hated it) > Fruity Loops (Worst DAW ever) > Ableton & Logic > Ableton only

Cubase is the only traditional DAW I'd think of using outside of Ableton again. Adobe ruined Cool Edit Pro.

>retarded piano roll and mixer
real men use midi controllers... no idea why you're hating on the mixer
>no mouse wheel adjusting
have never felt handicapped by just dragging up/down
>no stereo/mono pan
and again, so what?

this sure was a textbook
>OMG LE DISABLETON IS USELESS CUZ IT DUZNT HAVE THESE 4 NICHE BULLSHIT FEATURES I WANT IT TO 0/10 WORST DAW
shitpost

>No I don't want to hold down ctrl and alt just to fucking pan, are you fucking kidding me?
then just adjust the pan knob you fucking mongoloid
>intuitive routing and built in dry/wet that allows you to fucking dry/wet even if the VST doesn't support it. Unlike Ableton where you have to build a fucking autist chain for something as basic as that.
i can think of like one or two vst's in my collection that dont have a dry/wet. also nothing is wrong with ableton's routing

Reason 5 > fl studio > ableton

pro audio torrents

adobe seriously ruins everything

>another distraction from learning how to properly mix
it's supposed to make things sound better, not mix them for you

>built in dry/wet that allows you to fucking dry/wet even if the VST doesn't support it
>what are return channels
guess how we know you're a hobbyist subnormal

anyone?

No idea, but how are the knob upgrades on your es-1? Better than the shit originals that wobble and hard to find tune?

I've only just begun to try learning this stuff and I have a problem. I have made a very simple melody with some simple drums but my instrumental still sounds incomplete. What should I do when I don't know what to add due to lack of knowledge?

I told myself I'm actually going to finish this one and I'm not giving up.

trial and error. get some synth pads in there, use your intuition, be bold. if it's garbage MEAN IT, if it's not garbage MEAN IT

Not mine I just grabbed one about a week ago. I'm going to upgrade them though as the wiggly knobs was one of the first thing I noticed. This one's mine.

you must let yourself be bad in order to improve

Thx

highly recommended 8-tracks?

What's a decent pair of monitors i can get for about $300 or less? I know I can't get anything great for that much, I just need something good enough for mixing

I'm guessing you mean analog? Do you want one that records to cassettes or reels?

>tfw when the feels are too real for these reels

Why aren't there any ableton cracks that actually work? Whenever I use any of them it says I still need the authorization file, you'd think it'd be easier to find when so many ppl use it or want to use it

cassette or reel would be fine. just want to record shitty soundscapes that i like to make so i can listen to them

Maybe get some Yamaha HS5s off ebay. Whatever you get, get it off of ebay and save money. Or just used in general.

I've been looking too, it really depends on your budget though. If you can afford one and will actually learn how to use it well go for a fostex or tascam reel to reel.

If you just want something basic, cheap, and easy to use, get something like the Tascam 488, Yamaha mt8x, or a Fostex.

the chingliu one works but i think that was on KAT IIRC

fuck, i never even opened the manual yet figured out everything quickly. if it takes someone extreme brain power to loop, they're retarded.

so if i have the budget, get a fostex or a tascam, but if i dont have the budget, i should get a fostex or a tascam? maybe a Yamaha?

is there a program/website out there that measures the difference between two different audio outputs in terms of things like EQ balance,stereo seperation, etc. ?

I don't know about directly showing the differences between two pieces of audio, but you can individually analyze pieces of audio with plugins like the waves PAZ Analyzer. Then you could just compare the two yourself

>gear
why are we not aloud to post music?
my audio interface and laptop are not shown.
trying to sell some stuff to get a mic soon. thinking an akg c1000.
any recommendations. am mostly interested in recording instruments, but will try to record some vocals too.

it's called a Dual FFT analyzer. that can show you difference in spectrum, coherence, correlation, group delay, etc. all of which can be configured to show you stereo separation, overall or frequency-dependent time delays, etc. you might even have to setup a couple of them to get real fancy. i don't know any plugins that do that but i'm sure they exist. i use ElectroAcoustics Toolbox because I have an Appletosh but you can do such things with Systune, EASERA, SMAART, SpectrPlus, Matlab if you're superclever

because "muh anonymity" is collapsing inwards on itself like a black hole

ok

how

oooh nice! what nord is that? nords are more than just GOAT. they're LAMB, SHEEP, and DONKEY all rolled into one

because you're no longer allowed to post music in a production thread lol, it's easy to see the humour in that if you arent you people

thanks these are perfect, ive been using mediocre outputs for a while these willl help nicely for now

it's the 2x.
It's really nice!I love playing it the keys and knobs and everything are really nice. The drum mode is really crazy.

um what? all i said was "how". what makes you think I'm affiliated with the people you refer to in your post? Also you still didn't answer me

But you can post music, just not the name associated with the music. There are soundcloud threads if you want to post your soundcloud.

>because you're no longer allowed to post music in a production thread

...

that doesn't explain how " 'muh anonymity' is collapsing inwards on itself like a black hole" is true

that's apparently not the rule anymore though

one random guy deciding he doesn't like seeing people post clyps for feedback so he adds in a line to the general text he copied and pasted doesn't change the rules on the general though

i don't have enough inputs at home for such a masturbatory micglory

one time in the studio i used 32 mics on a drum kit though. it was bananas. ended-up eliminating about half of them because why.

comfy music making room.

can someone explain this joke to me? do people actually use tons of mics on on snare?

Didn't notice OP. Yeah that's stupid and nobody agrees with him. Just post your clyps

what is the advantage of having so many mics on a kit?

Read the OP dude

>Do NOT post clyps for feedback, only post clyps for the purposes of discussing how to get X sound
>do NOT post for feedback

Jesus christ its not that hard

Options, flexibility, stereo image, control. If you mic the rack tom, then you have control over it rather than trying to get it sounding right with just the overheads. If you mic the Kick drum inside and out then you can mix them together and get the best of both. It's mostly just stuff like that

he seems to be pushing it pretty hard in this thread, here he is again lol

eeeeh it's a big topic and kinda has to be looked-at on a case-by-case basis.

one approach to production is to intimately record every single element of the drum kit for perfect control. so, if the kit is huge you might have a mic on ever drum, two on the snare, 5 on the kick, one for every cymbal and at least one on hats. then you have various ways of recording overheads, 2, 4, 6 mics... plus various room mics. with skill and practice this can lead to a face-meltingly perfect drum kit sound. but i think it's pretty lame. getting an awesome sound with as few mics as possible is way more fun. anyone can paint a detailed picture with a million brush strokes, but try pulling it off with just a few!

but anyway, even when i'm being minimalist about drum miking room mics are a ton of fun to play around with, even if you don't end-up really using them.

>3m room mics
>10m room mics
>ceiling room mics
>room mics on the diffusor
>room mics in the next room with the door open
>etc

>32 mics on a drum kit
wtf? you're just asking for phase issues, user.

it's making fun of clickbait production articles and youtube tutorials.

>wtf? you're just asking for phase issues, user.
indeed. but, they were mostly close-miked and the various OHs and rooms were measured and aimed in such ways as to minimize that.

buuuuuuut we didn't use half that shit, we just had the option to pick and choose. was a fuckin mess and stupid waste of time but fun. my typical drum setup might be like 10 mics, unless i'm going minimal in which case it's anywhere between 1 and 6

clyp.it/0jz3auah

wtf did i just make

if i had 32 mics, i would do the same thing, so i understand. how big is your drum booth/room?

Anyone have suggestions for having reverb flow more invisibly through the background in a sense?
Theirs a lot of songs where the reverb feels like it has a much different tone than I've been able to get using fruity convolver, and various other IR reverb's (alongside other styles of reverb)

this wasn't at "my" studio (i don't have a studio i've just worked at a few). here's one of the larger rooms though, "semi" live... carpet, wood, plaster, and stone. tons of goddamn fun! and the ceiling changes height as well... it was off the hook. this is the kinda room wher eyou can pull off 32 mics :3

highpassing? predelay? longer reverb times? sidechain to the dry signal?

and here's the "live" room, used a lot for drums but only when you want fatty reverb. the plywood floor is essential. if you remove the plywood and expose the stone floor you can't even talk in that room, it's so fucking reverberant.

>sidechain to the dry signal?
jesus christ why have i never thought of that

garbage.

whoa, that's badass. reminds me of this abandoned church my buddy and i used to record in. we had to install plywood on the floors as well. 25 ft ceilings!

>abandoned church
fugg i would love to have a place like that. my last job was at a large, old, and prestigious college that had buildings like that. it was a fucking uphill battle though to be able to get in and record in them so it never really happened. i quit once that became apparent kek

why is it garbage

>sidechain to the dry signal?
???
(my goal is to have the reverb sound a lot more organic)

I spent a lot of time researching this price range. You basically need to decide between Yahmaha HS5 and JBL LSR305. I went with the JBL because they had a noticeably better bass in store, especially for being 5"

There are a couple good comparison videos of those 2 models on YouTube

didn't last very long. some builder told us to fuck off after a few months. what i'd really love is to be able to record a kit in one of those underground aquariums with the solid concrete floors and walls. makes my dick hard thinking about it.
>uphill battle to record your own music at the place you work
fuckin a. this place i'm working at now offered me a discount to record. a discount! i can't wait to quit this job and do sound editing for shitty soap operas. one can only dream.

ask this guy

you said flow invisibly through the background. if it's subtly ducking when the dry signal hits, it could help achieve that.

Those are some clutch devices there.

yeah some places suck. i didn't even want to record myself in there, i wanted to record others, usually performances that were going on already and nobody was recording them!
pipe organs, choral groups, that short of shit. every time i emailed the event/group i would get cockblocked.

i do a bit of urbex and have been in some pretty impressive sounding buildings like the aquarium you mention, but i never bring recording gear or anything. should start just recording some impulse responses though.

i have some acoustic design software that will painstakingly render mono, or binaural impulse responses of anything you design. i fuck around with it a lot to come-up with some crazy stuff

>it's anynmous
>sorry tho
clyp.it/y2ifmwbb

>Do NOT post clyps for feedback, only post clyps for the purposes of discussing how to get X sound
wasn't asking for feedback m8. i like and maybe many more people like hearing other peoples WIP. nothing wrong with posting your WIP and feedback.

shut up, newfag.

aight cool i've been coming here for 2 years now and i've never seen that in the OP. i give feedback all the time so i don't really care to follow this silly rule.

OP is good-intentioned but he has no power here. i wouldn't worry about it

It's official. Everyone post their clyps.

eh, thread's about to 404, i'd wouldn't bother with it anymore

just wait clypset is about to post like a million of his

>i wanted to record others
ah, spoken like a true philanthropist. my pipe dream in college was to own a recording studio so i could offer production services at charitable rates. it wasn't until my third semester when i really started thinking about the cost of keeping a studio running. anyway, now i'm working for some dickheads who don't know what they're doing and this studio will fail in the next couple of months. sorry if it seems like i'm rambling. i get very little sleep. did i mention i work close to 15 hours a day? it's pretty awesome. fuck my employers. fuck them very much and very hard. anyway, i just googled urbex and now i can say i'm somewhat familiar with it. don't think i could do it, though. you ever think to just bring a cheap multitracker with you? i'm not sure how much it would weigh you down. not a fan of field recordings, myself. some people are; good for them. great for them. i'm not. i never did dick around with impulse responses. i have some buddies who swear by them for room sounds. nice clip, by the way. is that an IR of a room you were in?

i'm just being an asshole, user. that guy has autism or something. post whatever you want. or don't.

>>room mics in the next room with the door open

I got to try stuff like that. even through a floor or door might sound cool

>through a floor or door
clyp.it/kd4vqnl3

lmao is this you not being invited to a party?

fuckin kek

>Clypster

That is the default name for anyone that posts anonymously tho

Too bad this thread is about to die cause this is gold

there are different models ya dingus

n-not me specifically