Who is the better songwriter between the 3

Who is the better songwriter between the 3

It's like choosing which turd in the bowl is your favorite

wtf i hate mark, sufjan and phil now

As a songwriter alone sufjan is the strongest for catchy tunes, phil is a more patient delicate one and his lyrics are great, mark's greatest appeal comes from his lyrics, I'd say suffy

very obviously phil.

But "songwriting" is a lose, undefined term. I'm just using it to mean the summation of melody-writing, lyrics, arrangement, and (resultant) aesthetic crafting.

Sufjan is close as fuck though. And Kozelek has the best lyrics probably.

ok so not so obviously.

Phil just has the most interesting aesthetics and recording methods paired with great lyrics and great, diverse melodies.

you chose the biggest one

Panera Bread

phil > koz > suffy

mark>phil>suffy
suffy dominates all 3 with how his songwriting goes well with his composing

but mark's stuff is storytelling sitting around a campfire.

>phil

trash

bump

phil >>> kozelek >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literal feces >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> memjan memevens

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I prefer Phil, but they're all great.

Sufjan is demonstrably the best composer of the three.

Phil > Suffy > Kozlek
They're all great tho

lol no

chill guy

The Age of Adz blows everything Mark and Phil made out of the water in terms of composition.

does Sufjan make art music? no, so stop calling him a composer.

Koz is the only one of these guys I love, Ghosts of the Great Highway is just a phenomenal work. I tried getting to the others but they don't do it for me.

what is the BQE

Sufjan > Phil > Koz

while im at it, might as well add:
Carrie & Lowell, Glow pt. 2 and Benji are their best, respectively

all bad choices
wrong order, too

Ghosts of the Great Highway and Down Colorful Hill are probably Marks best. the Glow pt.2 is Phil's masterpiece and its too hard to pick Sufjan's but C&L is at the top

not sure if you care, but second faves would be Illinois, Clear Moon/Ocean Roar as a suite, and Ghosts of the Great Highway

love both of those records. i also think admiral fell promises is way up there in mark's body of work

>does Sufjan make art music?

Sufjan is literally the only one of them that does.

>art music

this meme again

Let's completely forget that he plays like 20 instruments, produces, and does some pretty ambitious albums. Even disregarding that,

more like /talentless hack general/

Objectively wrong picks. C&L and Benji are like their worst albums.

Best ones for each are DCH, Mount Eerie, and Adz

Mount Eerie is Phil's best.
Age of Adz is Sufjan's best.
Down Colorful Hill is Mark's best.

This really isn't up for debate.

take Japanese to English and Medicine Bottle off of DCH and it becomes just ok. All of the songs on Ghosts of the Great Highway are perfect.

>scaruffi
>contrarian pick
>also scaruffi

ok

kill, marry fuck?

Kill,fuck,marry if it's by 2016 looks. Kill, marry, fuck if it's each of them in their prime.

bump

>sufjan

ok kid

Paul > Phil > Mark > Sufjan

i pick sufjan because he's a qt3.14

>phil not number one

lol

Not going with the best of the best

>suffy dominates all 3 with how his songwriting goes well with his composing
well why did you put him last then?

Phil > Mark > Sufjan lyrically

Sufjan > Phil > Mark musically

Down Colorful Hill
Old Ramon
Ghosts of the Great Highway
Benji
Universal Themes

Acceptable picks for Marks best


Michigan
Illinois

Acceptable picks for Sufjans best (i love Adz too)

i love C&L too ofc but youd have to be ill in the frickin head to think its his best

its like angel with my woman

Phil is my pick, but the other 2 are fantastic as well. They make such different music that it's apples and oranges really.

I gotta' go with Phil, he's one of my favorites of all-time.

The other two, both very respectable, though.

Fact:
Koz,Suf,Phil
My opinion:
Suf,Phil,Koz

I don't listen to RHP, but yeah this rings true.

Mark

Write songs for 7 years and then dIssappear. Yeah, no. He's not the best