/classical/

>General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.
mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General Folder #2. Mostly Romantic up to 20th century/modern, but also includes recordings of music by Bach, Mozart and others
mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
>General Folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.
mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
>General Folder #5. Renaissance up to late 19th century
mega.co.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
>General Folder #6. Very eclectic mix
mega.co.nz/#F!O8pj1ZiL!mAfQOneAAMlDlrgkqvzfEg
>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settings
mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks)
mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
>Debussy. There is an accompanying chart, available on request.
mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantic
mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=CLzF5tn7ygM
youtube.com/watch?v=O22ZRhsprQY
earsay.com/johnolivermusic/works/search/
youtube.com/watch?v=CTFGsIXlTT8
youtube.com/watch?v=QWl85PYBrec
youtube.com/watch?v=-f6XB5iuLws
vbv.hr/en/programme/in-varazdin/
vbv.hr/en/performers/varazdin-chamber-orchestra/
youtube.com/watch?v=C2dXTfjYPbE
youtube.com/watch?v=EKC8Ivr6rfg
youtube.com/watch?v=mI-wlmMNU6c
forvo.com/word/györgy_kurtág/#hu
youtube.com/watch?v=A0Wcg6FZyHA
youtube.com/watch?v=psj6O2jBJpE
youtube.com/watch?v=B1hHhpcHaL8
youtube.com/watch?v=FvJ6xl3l1ek
youtube.com/watch?v=qnIB_BDPU_w
youtube.com/watch?v=d-HcrLS66lY
youtube.com/watch?v=XYG9RzddIqI
williamandrewburnson.com/media/DoctorGradusAdParnassumAnalysis.pdf
emerald.tufts.edu/~mdevoto/Debussy1.pdf
www2.gsu.edu/~sommcf/publications/Origin_of_Method.pdf
youtube.com/watch?v=E7kRQAy9tho
youtube.com/watch?v=ehhRCtrHAx8
youtube.com/watch?v=kLp_Hh6DKWc
youtube.com/watch?v=YHVarQbNAwU
youtube.com/watch?v=HON-9Z1Greo
youtube.com/watch?v=BzA-yCxAf08
youtube.com/watch?v=QHWAzBZ2hDA
youtube.com/watch?v=yNi0bukYRnA
youtube.com/watch?v=TMrcoNO1Fp8
youtube.com/watch?v=kRXAiLjHtsc&spfreload=1
youtube.com/watch?v=v1FotpMw46E
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

MOZART! MOZART!

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True true.

Just finished the first act of Siegfried. Poor Mime can't catch a break.

Bump.

What did he mean by this?

I have no idea. /lit/ never talks about classical music. When they do music threads, it's always about the same kind of shit Cred Forums usually talks about.

it means this is a pop music board, take your schoolboy goody two shoes nerd shit to /lit/

Underrated

Bump.

I have never gotten into Russian music.

What Russian music/composers do you recommend?

I am currently at my uni's library, which has an extensive music collection. Whatever you recommend, I will pick up.

youtube.com/watch?v=CLzF5tn7ygM

im reading along a score of beethovens 9th and have a question. if a staff is labeled Bassoon in B and its treble clef, does that mean i need to transpose everything in my head? in other words, the measure going C-D-E is in reality the notes B-C-D, yes?

in the case of clarinet in D, id be transposing everything written down a step, so a measure with C-D-E would actually be the notes D-E-F?


youtube.com/watch?v=O22ZRhsprQY

Glinka, Borodin, Balakirev, Mussorgsky, Tchaikovsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Glazunov, Scriabin, Rachmaninoff, Stravinsky, Prokofiev, Shostakovich, Gubaidulina, Schnittke

Bump.

>Poor Mime
Kek. Did you watch the Boulez/Chereau production?

Siegfried comes across as a complete asshole in that one.

Watching Levine/Schenk and it's pretty much the same. Did Wagner not expect us to like this guy, or are we just supposed to hate the (((Nibelungs)))?

iirc Wagner wanted Mime to come across as the incarnation of evil, but most productions really ham-fist the comedic and pitiable aspect of him.

Not that the original text doesn't call for that, but it's usually more exaggerated than Wagner probably intended. The pitiable aspects of him are supposed to more of a front rather than his actual character, and you do inevitably get shades of that regardless during his scene where he tries to kill Siegfried.

I liked how he had to emphasize that he would have tried to kill Siegfried even if it weren't for Siegfried constantly abusing him

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>tfw finally hear a good recording of a piece you love
Great feeling.

What is it?

Bump.

What've you been listening to /classical/?

Hate when the orchestra is so loud you can barely hear the singers

>people listen to classical in 2016

Wow.

Hell, they're still making the stuff, too. Can you believe it?!?

>people still listen to music in the current year
Plebs

Pic related.

Enescu's piano works are pretty great. They're in the same sort've league as Bartók's in my opinion (folk-inspired and Debussian-harmonic-language).

Unfortunately there's basically jack-shit available for good recordings. You have some Lipatti recordings of his stuff, but it's in bad quality and he only recorded a few works. And you have a handful of recordings made by Enescu as well, but they're limited to only his early works.

Finally heard this baby today and it has everything I've been looking for in Enescu interpretation; a greater sense of dynamic-rhythm and a starker contrast between the right and left hands (most pianists pussy-foot the left hand completely). The Presto vivace in the F-sharp Sonata is positively snarling in its mischievous nature.

Tibor Szász still has my favorite Carillon nocturne but this is a close second--and it's in better sound.

The opposite is even worse in my opinion.

Wtf? I hate John Oliver now!

Never heard of him. What are his best compositions and/or recordings?

good shit homies

Current Year in E minor and the operetta, It's 2016 For Christ Sake!

Hmmm... Couldn't find any of those on his website earsay.com/johnolivermusic/works/search/

,

>that image again
Fag

what le fuck ives's songs are actually pretty great

youtube.com/watch?v=CTFGsIXlTT8
youtube.com/watch?v=QWl85PYBrec

Reminder that Wuorinen is based.
youtube.com/watch?v=-f6XB5iuLws

Ye, he was a good composer of songs

shut the fuck up dude

wonder who got the get

>listen to a 4 hour Wagner opera
>realize he's shit

well that was a waste of time

>listen to a 4 hour Wagner opera
>realize he's great

well that was a productive use of time

this

not this

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>listening to music
>productive use of time

pick one

why do I love almost every other German composer but I can't stand Wagner?

Because he's bad.

that's the conclusion I had reached, but I was hoping there was some sort of theoretical reason honestly

Are you really asking us to inform you as to why you have an opinion?

Do you suffer from mental issues?

Wagner is bad but not nearly as bad as Mozart

why are you such a dick?

truth
somehow Mozart manages to match the boredom of sitting through a Wagner opera in a much shorter periods of time

that's talent t b h

Essential clarinet solos?

they're not solos, but Louis Spohr's clarinet concertos are nice

Plebs.

*raises hammer*
I am a Wagnerian!

*raises poop*
I am a Mozartian!

my condolences

*smites you with hammer*
I care not for the bleatings of sheep.

*bangs on harpsichord*
I am a Baroquian!

>plebs repeating terrible memes
Why haven't you listened to Schumann today?

too busy listening to schubert, the superior schu

nah thats mahler bro

could you beat Wagner in a fight, /classical/?

Post a sexier composer.
Protip: You can't

Probably not.

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*removes bells from cows*
I am a Mahlerian!

no

*removes bells from 500 cows*
I am a Mahluherian

I-I'm not Jewish.

Where do I start with classical?

anywhere but mahluh and shosty

Start with the best; Mozart.

watch that movie amadeus

Mozart's piano concertos and Beethoven's piano sonatas. All of them.
If you don't appreciate any of them you have no soul and should probably kill yourself.

Alright, thanks

Good lad.

What are some god tier /classical/ albums?

Bruckner

*sounds numerous fire alarms*
I am a Brucknerian!

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*Is diagnosed with autism*
I am a Bachian!

can any of you read music and answer my question

no fuck you faggot

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thats hilarious then

Is /comp/ dead?

Seeing performances of orchestral works by Max Reger / Joseph Haydn tomorrow. Thrilled as fuck

Reger can get tiresome.

Tangentially, I was listening to Schmidt's Book With Seven Seals since one of my friends had been raving about it and then it got to potentially the most excruciating bit of German counterpoint organ memery I've ever heard. Don't know how I forgot that was there since the last time I listened to it.

Otherwise enjoyed reading the Perfect Wagnerite which explained the feeling I couldn't articulate about why Gotterdammerung was so underwhelming. Rereading Adorno's In Search of Wagner but Adorno gets quite tiresome. The foreword by Zizek did make me chuckle though.

Also putting together a pitch to direct a production of Semele. Currently torn between doing a fairly elaborate bit of regietheater or going very minimalist. The saving grace is that the story of Semele is actually pretty good by baroque opera/oratorio standards so it doesn't need a 'visionary' interpretation to appeal to modern audiences.

just heard the Sonata in B minor for the first time.
holy FUCK

it's a good image to post because it lets everyone who sees it immediately know this is the /classical/ thread

Wagner is great but I did think Lohengrin was kind of boring

Watched the first three parts of Der Ring and have found every moment interesting and/or thrilling so far

No. Smaller generals on Cred Forums tend to noted have threads up constantly.

Second best act of the Ring cycle, behind act III of Walkure

He should have done an opera at some point. What's with post-Wagnerians not doing operas? Same deal with Mahler

Any other post-Wagnerians outside of Mahler and Bruckner? I want more.

vbv.hr/en/programme/in-varazdin/

What would you go to? I'm definitely going to "J.S.Bach: St. John Passion" on saturday next week.

Can you rec me something from these two?

Their symphonies. All of them.

Bach isn't classical. Mozart is my Nigga...

Bach is for boys
Mozart is for men

Beethoven is for badasses

Götterdämmerung a best. Look forward to it.

I'd grab this one too, personally:
vbv.hr/en/performers/varazdin-chamber-orchestra/

Which composer makes you think?

Wagner makes me think about conquering nations

Try listening to Zemlinsky. Many of his symphonic compositions are pretty operatic. His String Quartets are superb too.

Are there any good retarded classical composers?

if by that you can include high function autismos, than probably most of them

Bach, but he is not good.

Any links alternative to Mega? I don't have premium and downloading this shit takes forever.

>implying that a grand opera measures up to the music-dramas that make of the preceding 3/4 of the Ring

ell oh ell.

>wagner
>great
nice meme

this, if I could kill one person from the past, it would be Wagner

what are some good recordings for beethoven's piano sonatas?

Kempff, Annie Fischer, S. Richter, Hungerford, Rosen, Gilels.
For old memes get Schnabel, Kempff's eaerly recordings, and Edwin Fischer.

Why do half the posts in /classical/ have to be shitting on great composers

Asserting anxious connoisseurship.

It's escalated in the past 6 months with bog-posting becoming a hot new meme. It may pass, we'll see.

I like Götterdämmerung the most because despite its length it--aside from Das Rheingold--has the least amount of dips in effective pacing. The 'recap' scenes weren't as infuriating as they could be in Die Walküre or Siegfried, as the context (both musical and textual) in which they were presented was easier to swallow. It also shows Wagner's orchestral writing at its peak, in my opinion. It's a total culmination of all the motifs that had been established for the past 3 operas, and they're synthesized and juxtaposed against one another in a masterful way. In a dramatic sense, Act 2 and Act 3 are total romps from beginning to end, and no other Acts in the Ring cycle really quite generate the kind of excitement that those two possess.

is Hungerford still mentioned around here? I thought he was an older /classical/ relic but I'm not sure if he's in the new mega folders

I'm pretty sure there's at least one download for his stuff in the mega folders. At least I recall there being one.

Handel makes me think about how that pork and beer tube made it to the history books

I came here for the digits

He was memeing on you with Shaw's assertion that Gotterdammerung is the weakest part of the Ring Cycle because Wagner stopped exploring philosophy like he had in the first three (well, first two and two acts of Siegfried) and just wrote an opera which is a bit more basic in its scope.

Although

>recap scenes easier to swallow
Waltraute telling us everything that the norns already told us is probably the worst bit of the Ring cycle.

>Waltraute telling us everything that the norns already told us is probably the worst bit of the Ring cycle.

I don't like it either, but for me the worst recap scene will always be the riddling between Wotan and Mime in Siegfried. If only because the text accompanying it is so silly.

I think the worst part of the Ring cycle is by far Act 2 of Walküre.

I don't think he's in ay of the mega folders but he's on rutracker.

Act II of Walkure is easily one of the most important bits of the whole cycle though.

It's also way too long for what it is. It's almost 2 hours for just one act. Wotan's inner conflict is interesting and sympathetic, but you could have probably cut the Act in at least a fourth by removing unnecessary dialogue.

Keep Scenes 1/2/5 the way they are. Cut out a lot of the fluff in 3 and 4.

Schiff

Brendel

Give me stuff for the flute

the french desu
youtube.com/watch?v=C2dXTfjYPbE
youtube.com/watch?v=EKC8Ivr6rfg
youtube.com/watch?v=mI-wlmMNU6c

step aside, ugly fags. Mr. handsome's here

Wtf? That's Samuel Beckett.

Is that Samuel Beckett?

how do you pronounce his name?

is it pronounced gay-orgy kur-tahg?

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm das semul beket

Best women chorus songs?

u mad?

d'yord kurtag

Fuck that. Best MEN chorus songs?

Like this apparently

forvo.com/word/györgy_kurtág/#hu

youtube.com/watch?v=A0Wcg6FZyHA

Is there a better piece of music than Chopin - Nocturne Op. 9 No. 2 in E flat major?

I like O Filii et Filiae from Liszt's Christus

Gorgie Kurtaag

Anyone know of any interesting articles that analyze the works of Debussy from a music theory perspective?

Bruckner is a better composer than Mahler.

this entire album
youtube.com/watch?v=psj6O2jBJpE

particularly this song
youtube.com/watch?v=B1hHhpcHaL8

youtube.com/watch?v=FvJ6xl3l1ek

if you don't mind recorders, this is pretty rad.

youtube.com/watch?v=qnIB_BDPU_w

Is this the greatest classical recording of all time?

tell me what your favorite composer is so I can make fun of you

Hans Zimmer

Petzold
protip: you can't

Schubert

Petzold

Wagner

what would you add to this chart?

j.s. bach

he's on there already

oh shit it's J. C. Bach nvm

H. Zimmer :^D

youtube.com/watch?v=d-HcrLS66lY

Mozzart (underrated)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

youtube.com/watch?v=XYG9RzddIqI

>(underrated)
Proof:

Damn. Favorite recording of my favorite composer, by far.

>recording
it's midi

No that's definitely played with live instruments you can hear it

kill yourself senpai

>piss is better than shit anons

Look up SDF's stuff on Debussy in the arhcive

williamandrewburnson.com/media/DoctorGradusAdParnassumAnalysis.pdf
emerald.tufts.edu/~mdevoto/Debussy1.pdf
www2.gsu.edu/~sommcf/publications/Origin_of_Method.pdf

Shit taste, here are some recs.
youtube.com/watch?v=E7kRQAy9tho
youtube.com/watch?v=ehhRCtrHAx8
youtube.com/watch?v=kLp_Hh6DKWc
youtube.com/watch?v=YHVarQbNAwU
youtube.com/watch?v=HON-9Z1Greo

Just dropping by to remind you that niggers and Jews ruined Western music for ever.
Thanks for reading.

haha the /classical/ thread sure is fcuking random lol

>Leningrad

Western music is literally based on Jewish religion, it's what saved muh Western culture, you dumb dense minge cunt.

XD

Who is /classical/'s favourite female composer?

fairly certain such a thing does not exist

the most underappreciated composer of the 20th cent.
youtube.com/watch?v=BzA-yCxAf08

what is a "female"

chaya czernowin
sofia gubaidulina
kaija saariaho
ruth crawford seeger
vanessa rossetto
pauline oliveros
eliane radigue
brunhild ferrari
gloria coates
desu

It's like a man, except you don't fuck it

t. everyone on mu

OK I don't wanna push anyone's buttons but this is definitely not a female

Thanks anons :).

Kassiani

Bump.

[FURTHER PROOF INTENSIFIES]

Well the words /CLASSICAL/ should really be able to speak for itself.

Either Sergei Prokofiev or Mozart

Jews like Steve Reich and Philip Glass are the only ones even making any anymore.

Hildegard Von Bingen may be the meme answer but she's also the right answer.

ameriburger detected

not him but name more than two 21st century composer making good stuff

kaija saariaho, osvaldo golijov, wolfgang rihm, thomas ades, john luther adams

youtube.com/watch?v=QHWAzBZ2hDA

thank me later

Spurdo Bach

Art of the fug :DDDDDD

Who would win in a fistfight, Bach or Handel?
Mozart or Haydn?
Beethoven or Schubert?
Wagner or Verdi?
Schoenberg or Stravinsky?

No one, as violence solves nothing.

Saariaho is the only good composer there, Golijov and Rihm are literally whos, and the other two are British.

>Golijov and Rihm are literally whos
retard

yes, but it does solve a fistfight

Bach
Mozart
Beethoven
Verdi
Stravinsky

Bach
Haydn
Beethoven
tie
Stravinsky

So can anyone give me a classical piece that's basically the prelude to Das Rheingold extended? The strings give me boners for days but the over-the-top opera definitely isn't my style.

Just came back from hearing this meme live

youtube.com/watch?v=yNi0bukYRnA

Good experience

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The composition of the Ring is weird in that the text was written starting with Gotterdammerung back while the music was written in order.

shut up pleb

>Golijov is literally (((who)))
ftfy

Good stuff.

Who is the Yeezus of classical?

Yeah and that's the point Shaw makes: you can tell the story of Gotterdammerung was written by young Wagner because it's very different in style and scope to the preceding three parts

Really awful, yet the creator deluded himself into thinking it was a work of genius?
The Ring Cycle probably.

would you guys be down for a classical blindfold test like regularly do?

I would, just post one and see how many replies it gets.

Can we stop with the passive-aggressive memes? They aren't funny and make the general poorer. Already I can hear the avant-teen meme team clacking at their grease stained keyboards to meme in response, but try not to. You are ruining this general.

I wish Wagner had composed more non-operatic works. I love Wagner and hate Opera.

I participate in the jazz blindfolds and I'd love to do a classical one. I think it'd work really well.

Lera Auerbach

Classical doesn't really do cheap disposable music.

in no area does Bruckner surpass Mahler.
Melodic, harmonic and contrapuntal writing: Mahler
Form: Mahler
Orchestration: Mahler
Holding interest over long periods: Mahler

Bruckner is second rate. Mahler is first.

Rheingold, Walkure and Siegfried are all music-dramas, not operas

>Implying there's actually a difference.

There is and the fact you're so proud of your ignorance is all the information I need to know to tell what sort of person you are :^)

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Classical music started in baroque, everything before that was
"VIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII SANCTUM MEMEUS STARTUS WITHUS THE MONKUS"

Enlighten me.

i'm on my way to making the thread

>Form: Mahler

wut? This is what Bruckner excels in. He followed a very deliberate form and was able to use it to great effect. Mahler just let his form run off with his harmonies and orchestration

Further proof that chants are underrated

what's some /comfy/-tier classical for the fall?

Schubert.

WHY IS PETZOLD A MEME AGAIN?

IS IT JUST THE BACH THING?`

OOPS DIDN`T MEAN TO TYPE IN CAPS

just reference it with other instruments, lad

Is there a serialism chart for plebs such as yours truly?

Probably Dora Pejačević or Ethel Smyth

Serialism doesn't mean anything

Chopin, because I'm returning to the piano after a 3-year brake. I'm gonna study some shit, finally.

Get some taste, user.

tune in for the classical blindfold!

What sites do you guys use to get sheet music?

Anyone got more post-minimalist stuff like this?

youtube.com/watch?v=TMrcoNO1Fp8

IMSLP is what I've always used. They have composers I've never heard of and music from composer i know that I've never heard. It's as complete as a library can get, and it has MIDIs and a ton of different scans and it is FREE to boot.

You should try it out.

Thanks, checking it out right now

>hey guys ask me what i listened to
spastic

>responding to a post made over a day ago
spastic

Thoughts on frank zappa?

Post brutal classical music
>1:37
youtube.com/watch?v=kRXAiLjHtsc&spfreload=1

Fair point, but to the poster I replied to:
In future, specify what you listened to in your post, instead of fishing for attention.

youtube.com/watch?v=v1FotpMw46E

>fagotto

further proof of how problematic classical music is

post some fagotto music

>Classical doesn't really do cheap disposable music

there's plenty actually

yeah, Bach has tons of it

Thank the lord that Mozart doesn't.

further proof that Bach is underrated