Vocal-driven music is shit

To prove me wrong, show me vocal-driven music that isn't:

-Identity / kiddie culture crap
-My life / my self / look at me /
-Political spew
-Sappy romantic/sexual crap
-Party / inna cluhb / da beech

You won't be able to find any. Vocal-driven music isn't true music, it's the above crap with rhythm and melody used as a propellant.

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>it's the above crap with rhythm and melody used as a propellant.
How is that not true music?

The music is just a means to an end. It's window dressing.

>The music is just a means to an end
What's the end in this case that you oppose?

>-Identity / kiddie culture crap
>-My life / my self / look at me /
>-Political spew
>-Sappy romantic/sexual crap
>-Party / inna cluhb / da beech

What's wrong with that?

youtube.com/watch?v=SFx1Jc9uuRs

what fucking topic doesn't fall under those that isn't reading a textbook out loud
here's the shit you want apparently youtube.com/watch?v=xJG0ir9nDtc

youtube.com/watch?v=HQgAIKf0tIc

So it can have a clearer message than non vocal-driven music? What's wrong with that?

This isn't a moral issue fag, there isn't a "wrongness," it's an aesthetic one.

Now quit your low-tier Socratic trolling with your loaded questions and prove me wrong by showing me a song that isn't one of those 5 things.

Why is it shit?
>showing me a song that isn't one of those 5 things.
Already posted two. I can do more if you want.

any classical song sycle
vocal jazz
Meredith Monk and other explorers of modern vocal experimentation

the voice is the oldest instrument and the op reads like a year 1 music listener

why make a topic that already has a close minded agenda?

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OP gettin REKT

>-My life / my self / look at me / only in second-person.

Seems to qualify, rare.

That's kind of my point, vocals in music are damned stupid.

Remove intelligibility / words from vocals and use the human voice as an instrument and you have something solid. It's the linguistic message that's the problem.

I should have named the thread lyric-driven instead in hindsight.

>gets proven wrong
>t-thats not what i meant
kys

>only in second-person.
Nice goalpost shifting
>Remove...
Nice goalpost shifting again!

Here's some more
youtube.com/watch?v=OjG4K9WnixM

If you look at the context of my post, I.E. what I am actually talking about, you'd see that I am not talking about scat/vocables/beatboxing/etc etc.

However you cannot possibly understand this because of your developmental disability.

>what I am actually talking about
We tried to ask you what you were taking about but you wouldn't answer

Oh btw here's another for you
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Again you change what you meant

This is possible an example, though it does seem awfully identityish with the whole California thing. I'll mark it as an edge case.

You have to really dig to find this shit. 99.99% of lyric-driven music is as I described.

>Vocal-driven
Nah, all vocals in music are cancerous and could easily be replaced with a superior instrument.

>have to dig to find OTC
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>You have to really dig to find this shit. 99.99% of lyric-driven music is as I described.
>my posts were all within 20 minutes
Maybe you just don't listen to enough music

youtube.com/watch?v=shu5CqJX1jI

If your problem was with voice as an instrument, you would've said you hated its timbral/ tonal limitations. What you actually said you hate are the things people sing about, which is a reflection of how shallow and dysfunctional our society is, not a case against vocal performance.

The most popular and iconic album on this board, the one in the sticky, makes a strong case in favor of vocal music. I'm sure you "get" the beauty of Jeff's singing and what he sings about , and I use that example specifically because ITAOTS is pop, the music you're criticizing. Compositionally barebones, ineptly played, but moving nonetheless.

>not liking the only instrument universally used worldwide
You're limiting your music tastes severely, but that's just my opinion

>-Identity / kiddie culture crap
You don't have a personal identity?
>-My life / my self / look at me /
You don't have a story to tell?
>-Political spew
You don't feel passionately about polotics?
>-Sappy romantic/sexual crap
Have you never been in love?
>-Party / inna cluhb / da beech
Have you ever been to a party?

youtu.be/jJ9Xk-VoGqo


>-Identity / kiddie culture crap
Nope

>-My life / my self / look at me /
Nope

>-Political spew
Nope

>-Sappy romantic/sexual crap
Nope

>-Party / inna cluhb / da beech
And nope

Now I will wait patiently as you move the goalpost

Everything you hate about vocal
music is the result of market forces and commercialism. It has nothing to do with the voice as an instrument.

Nonvocal music doesn't so much avoid this question as muzzle it; EDM made for clubs worships at the same altar.

OP BTFO

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check and mate
youtube.com/watch?v=thAunSuinVc

So you're against vocal jazz?
What'd Frankie boy do to you

>music that talks about life is bad

to be honest, I do feel more or less the same way - aesthetically, lyics when taken individually more often than not come across as amateurish poetry that go about in ham fisted way to get their message across, unless its very sincere (i.e Charlie McAllister - Darla Come Down From Jackson - a sappy love song). Now whether we should even be looking at lyrics outside the sounds they are packaged in is another question, and I'd lean towards no.

SO how about these relatively well known songs as outside your 5 pillars?

youtube.com/watch?v=sL0tYowbIxE

youtube.com/watch?v=NZFG1yAxjdQ

Now a better way to go about this would be for you to identify what you like lyrically (if you have anything you DO like)

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