/classical/

Josquin

are you sure?

Yes.

I love classical guitar lads.
Cant play the guitar.

Fucking great music. Why was he never popular? Easily on the same level as Brahms and Schumann.

youtube.com/watch?v=CbonvfckaWE
youtube.com/watch?v=Bt8JwdXxnXE
youtube.com/watch?v=B89dJ2mIY1U
youtube.com/watch?v=KYDPzEwq6oA

youtube.com/watch?v=eLemB4KiJ7Q
youtube.com/watch?v=Vp9QJbt3IgA

youtube.com/watch?v=u9LM89VKBaA

youtube.com/watch?v=2X_XtUs_E6Q (best)
youtube.com/watch?v=7RbrBuCMiec

I love Elgar
Vaughan Williams was a G as well

Oh shit sorry thought that said romantic
My bad
Renaissance I gotta say dunstaple

Fingerpicking is cancer-inducing to learn

vbv.hr/en/programme/in-varazdin/

Which concert would you go to?

the second movement of haydn's symphonie 98 always makes me laugh bc of remembering what it used to do to my nintendogs when i played it for them

Is the difficulty of this exaggerated? The tab doesn't look THAT hard
youtube.com/watch?v=oEfFbuT3I6A

hey can you guys help me find the name of a famous piece?

youtube.com/watch?v=txMBWvJ17sw
it starts in this video at around 1:35, with the descending choir and stuff.

That's the Dies Irae from Verdi's Requiem.

thank you.

The one two minutes later is Satie's Gymnopedie no. 1 btw

Just rediscovered Couperin's motets

Good shit desu

Probably Savall

Why do English people have such incredibly shit taste

Buckethead does way crazier shit, bro

youtube.com/watch?v=fbUtGcEW2jI

The Vincente Parrilla Trio would probaby be quite fun too because that sort of improvisation concert usually is.

The French cantatas concert is probably worth considering too

He's good, but shredding ain't that hard after you've practiced for a couple of years, nothing new to see here, I such at finger picking, and that piece I linked was hyped up to be the hardest classical guitar piece ever

Looking for stuff like Janacek's second string quartet.

So does anyone care that it's Shostakovich's birthday?

No.

Please don't listen to any autists that suggest that, that's like the 'pianists' you find in YouTube comment sections touting Fantaisie-Impromptu or some other intermediate piece as the hardest shit ever just because it has fast arpeggios and runs and they haven't heard anything beyond the five most popular solo piano works on the site.

Who's the best composer outside of the meme three?

Lutosławski

Brahms.

this guy

Stravinsky

Mozart.

String instruments were as good, if not better.

Different. Definitely not better.

>nothing can be objectively better

*tips fedora*

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Actually what I was trying to say is that they're worse.

Best recordings are ones where you can hear the performers leafing through their scores

Agreed. Further enhanced by a chatty and coughy audience.

It makes you feel like you're actually there instead of sitting alone at your computer lurking /classical/

>any piece or performance with a comedic element to it
Pic related is great. W.S. Gilbert is one of my favorite librettists. Clever and funny.

Wagner

Yeah, he seems like the obvious choice.

Scriabin.

Brendel ain't the best pianist but he sure is a top tier memer.
poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/poem/item/513/auto/When-Mozart-was-murdered

Handel understands effect better than any of us -- when he chooses, he strikes like a thunderbolt.
-- Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, quoted in Percy M Young, Handel (1947)

I thought you died.

Schubert, of course.

We are eternal.

(not true, by the way.)

Ravel

Tchaikovsky is actually better than all of them

Prokofiev.

I enjoy Frank Bridge's Piano Sonata. What else would I enjoy?

Gustav Holst's Second Suite contains the top four "earworm" tunes ever. It is damn near perfect.

Does the meme three mean Bach, Mozart, Beethoven (one of these is not like the other)?

If so, either FJ Haydn, Palestrina or Schubert.

memed oven

>palestrina
WHO?
H
O
?

Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina

A spaghettinigger that wrote some damn good choral music, J.S. Bach's favorite.
I mean he is definitely the greatest black composer of all time, but he's nowhere near a divine, transcendent talent like W.A. Mozart.

friendly reminder for the classical blindfold test this friday

Beethoven was BLACK
and Mozart had FOUND OUT
After one of Beethoven’s wondrous improvisations
Mozart
had whispered to Süssmayr
Not bad for a nigger

hahahahahah what

No.

>(one of these is not like the other)
Oh come on, which one????

Beethoven is incredible.

These seem like the most sensible choices

why does polish classical suck so much?

You don't like Szymanowski, Lutoslawski, Penderecki, Gorecki?

>Gorecki
Are his other works similar to the 3rd symphony? Thought that one was a bit boring honestly

Which composers of the classical Era demanded the least virtuosity from soloists but instead generally focused on expression?

Aww yeah.

why do you care?

I'm studying the development of what was and what wasn't used as solo instruments (mainly in regards to concertos) and a big part of that was certainly the availability of virtuosos for certain instruments.

This is harder if you're talking fingerpicking
youtube.com/watch?v=7y-Ipi1dnng

One of the craziest finger picking pieces I've ever heard here
youtube.com/watch?v=GiFKTvd7mn4

You seem lost

fuck off petzold

So does classical music have an audience outside of Europe and China?

Band kids who play Holst and overtures to famous operas.

Japan

Some segments of academia.

Japs love it
Some spics because muh Dudamel and muh Simone Bolivar orchestra
The big Yank orchestras are still there
Basically just Africa and poo in loos missing

Give me something similar to Scriabin's early preludes and Chopin's nocturnes. Autumn's here.

thoughts about him?

Also, I already know and like Debussy.

Janacek's piano stuff is some of my preferred autumn music. Particularly On an Overgrown Path and Sonata 1.X.1905

bumpu

There's a lot of people here in the US that like it
I even went to an organ recital at a church last Friday and there were a lot of people there, almost all of them had grey hair, but still

>Basically just Africa and poo in loos missing
do you think Hindustani classical is popular in India?

Thanks, anything else in particular?

here you go
youtube.com/watch?v=GXHBc5TZSV8
youtube.com/watch?v=qMThZxmZRqY

lol holst sux neoromantics r gay

He seems more late romantic than "neoromantic" honestly

Who is the best composer still alive today?

me

post some of your work

ur listening to it right now

You're not Shostakovich.

says who

Common sense.

Kapustin

What defines minnalism? Is it just trying to use as few notes as possible?

what shosty are you listening to
i was gonna listen to his 7th symph later on for the first time

13th symphony. 7th is his most famous one and his longest. It's OK, worth a listen at least.

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basically taking about 10 seconds of content and extending it to 20-60 minutes

John Adams

Who is the thinking man's composer?

Ayyy, /classical/, what would you think if I created a dubtrack room so anons could play classical music and we can discover new pieces/composers live? I've been meaning to do this for awhile.

John Cage. He's quite interesting how he challenges the norms.

Okay, I decided to make a dubtrack room anyway:

dubtrack.fm/join/classical-music-from-medieval-to-contemporary

Come if you want and queue up songs. I made the song length limit quite long (I don't care unless the song is a troll song). I'll be playing through my playlist.

I wonder if you're ever going to have more than one or two people listening at a time.

I wonder this as well. Oh well, I don't mind having just a few people in the room. I'll have it for my own playlists anyway, too.

Burp

Best music about Greek legends?

Bitch Please.

Sorry if this is the wrong place for this, i'm a complete pleb when it comes to classical, but does anyone know anything about the painting on this cover? I'd really like to learn more about the artist and see more of his work

Nothing pleb about Satie. Have you listened to the 3 Gnossiennes?

Lurked this room a bit. It's pretty chill. Good music.

That's a painting by Joan Miro. One of my favorite modernists.

Not sure how well Miro fits Satie though tbqh

I think it fits.

pretty much all of xenakis' works

Was about to ask if Xenakis was the first Greek composer since like Euripides but then I remembered Skalkottas

Of course, I almost love them more the gymnopedies, though I feel somewhat contrarian in saying that

I like them better than the gymnopedies, too.

.

Oedipe.

Okay, I'm out for the night. Feel free to join the room and play music, still, if you want. I'll be back tomorrow.

i am headbanging to bolero and there is nothing you can post to make me stop

dutoit really put montreal orchester to work, good shit

My themes are so very varied guys I tell you

umm.. because it's on period?

Ah, I see, you made a joke about females.
Very anti-SJW, I like that! You must be part of the white master race.

not the sacred music ones for sure

This has to be one of the most tryhard posts I"ve ever read

Indeed I am, good sir *tips respectfully towards you*

*tips wig back*

In all honesty, I was just bored listening to a recording of the firebird suite by Str.

some of the best cello pieces ever
youtube.com/watch?v=uSg-zh0qsXY

Is there anything else that sounds similar to Debussy and his general use of harmony?

>/lit/ is laughing at us again

What? He's true.
>at us
At whom?

Obviously Schubert.

(Runners up: Ockeghem, Stravinsky)

To some extent Ravel, albeit better. (compare: their piano trios)

Mozart

When done correctly, it is a regenerate movement which recreates the successes of the medieval masters.

>tfw Davies recently died

Grieg lyric pieces = good autumn music

Good?

i downloaded "peer gynt" and thought, man Grieg was so inventive, all soundtrack composers stole from him.
in the end i realized i was listening to schnittke.
rate my plebbiness.

Peer Gynt is a chestnut, but he wrote better music.

youtube.com/watch?v=pZZkxLY9uqc

Compare this quarter to Plebussy's (spoiler alert: it's better)

*quartet

thx brah, bookmarkd for later

yw

As long as you're checking out Grieg: youtube.com/watch?v=cCDgl_OLwCg

What are some pieces that move from extremely tonal to extremely atonal dynamically and with ease?

Arvo Part

Most Schnittke pieces, Arvo Part's Collage Uber Bach:
youtube.com/watch?v=cH8oLn5Avp8

Lera Auerbach. Runners up: John Psathas, Lachenmann or Penderecki, Ferneyhough.

Maybe Gluck?

My vote for Lassus. So many to choose from. Victoria, Morales, Taverner, Palestrina, Tallis and Fayrfax are also up there for me.

thanks for Schnittke. There's some real tensions and tangible contrasts in that, exactly what I was looking for. Atonality as an instrument for tension is far better than the bludgeoning approach of Schönberg when it comes to actual listening.

His concerto grosso/i and concerto for piano and strings are particularly good. Those fucked up major cadences are 10/10:

youtube.com/watch?v=E8IwbnmJ_8M

>medieval masters

which

who's the absolute best satie pianist
revisiting impressionism

clt i missed you baby

youtube.com/watch?v=ooQv4JcWqnA

Satie is to impressionism what Philip glass is to 20th century music

That user doesn't really know what he's talking about. Minimalism has nothing to do with medieval masters, unless its "sacred minimalism"/Arvo Part which isn't really minimalism, more of a neo-baroque, neo-renaissance, hybrid modern polystylism.
Real hard-line minimalism like Steve Reich and Philip Glass uses basic tonal building blocks, rarely stepping out of the basic diatonic system (ie no applied chords and very little chromaticism) and focuses primarily on dynamics and rhythm more than melody, harmony, orchestration or form. There is a careful attention to subtle changes over time. Reich's clapping music or drumming is a good example of this. Complex, phasing rhythms, using 1 to 5 pitches and with pretty much no harmony or melody.

youtube.com/watch?v=B18QDmkwTfw

...

amazing, the congratulatory rondo is also very wicked

>That user
Thatw as CLT, not an user.

Ciccolini is the only one I can consistently tolerate

Machaut and no one else really

I knew that, would prefer to call him user rather than let his tripfaggotry infect my post

What is your favorite disturbing/weird piece of classical music?

I go for the Rite of Spring.

>Minimalism has nothing to do with medieval masters
I assume you mean apart from being explicitly influenced by them.

Léonin, PérotPéroand other practitioners of early counterpoi, at least according to Reich, Young, etc.

>PérotPéroand
What did he mean by this?

Fake CLT pls go

About to listen to more Shostakovich.

My condolences.

Hey, I need to give him a chance, at least.

What's the best harpsichord recording of Bach's WTC? Can't stand Gould's obnoxious humming.

Gustav Leonhardt

>harpsichord
Just listen to better piano performances.

>I don't listen to baroque music

Like what?

Feinberg, Hewitt's 2nd recordings, Nikolayeva, Richter.

gulda

>he's a historicist
Enjoy your inferior instrument.

Who is the edgiest composer ever?

petzold

>ywn hear Moravec play Scriabin or Faure

only if you promise to enjoy your incorrect one
his recording of chopin's nocturnes is phenomenal

Where are my fellow Wagnerians at?

youtube.com/watch?v=mADk_bqsr6M

youtube.com/watch?v=vbVckwYgXjc

I cry when I listen to Wagner sometimes, tbbhwymfw (to be brutally honest with you my fellow Wagnerians)

>incorrect
Reminder that Bach helped sell pianos.
Reminder that the WTC was written for a generic keyboard instrument.

He really did unfag Opera up

I'm trying to trek through Parsifal right now, but 3 to 4 hour Theatre works are hard to digest

He's part my trinity of favorite Germans along side Brahms and Schumann

Everything he does is aural gold, same goes for his Schumann, Franck, and Debussy

youtube.com/watch?v=UubmRHolrXc

Wagner's works are magical. The fact that his music is just as emotional and intense whether performed in its original operatic medium, in symphony, in a band, chorally, on organ, and Liszt's piano interpretations goes to show that he truly is one of the greatest composers to ever have lived.

i love kempff's schumann but i'll have to check out moravec's

>Reminder that Bach helped sell pianos.
this is irrelevant

the mastersingers of nuremberg is absolutely mindblowing, by far the best opera i've ever heard

Name one (1) instrument that sounds worse than the harpsichord.

Pro-tip: You can't.

>He hasn't heard Rameau, Couperin, or Scarlatti

Maybe if you stopped listening to gay music like Handel and Purcell, you would appreciate the color and timbres of the harpsichord

>Scarlatti on harpsichord
>French composers
Disgusting.

Shit opinions

You probably think the Italians are good

>thinks Italians are bad
>lists an Italian
Harpsichord shills, not even once.

What a waste of digits

Scarlatti is an honorary Iberian, and For every Italian composer there is a superior German or Frenchman

Can you harpsichord memers please just take a long walk off a short pier please. We've been through this countless times: the harpsichord is a technically limited instrument that sounds like shit and it was only used because there was nothing better at the time. Bach, Mozart and Haydn helped pioneer the modern piano when the fortepiano came along.

The piano during Mozart and Haydn's time sounded like shit

No it didn't. The fortepiano sounds great and colorful.

eww ;)

I'm back. If people want to join this dubtrack room; it's pretty chill:

dubtrack.fm/join/classical-music-from-medieval-to-contemporary

>forgetting Mondonville
youtube.com/watch?v=ay96vCdcDxs

bagpipes

Whenever someone insults the French I wanna slap their shit up, French Baroque and French impressionism/Modernism are some of the best and least cancerous things in the Classical genre

Well don't listen to "historical" shit then. Which was my point in the first place.

>Frogs shitting up the thread
Bach and Scarlatti are so much better on piano it isn't even funny.

>Rameau
youtube.com/watch?v=lJsDvXd2V0E

>tfw CLT was here and you missed it

Is clarinet bound to sound goofy forever?
youtube.com/watch?v=50vL1uAXn7s

Go to bed CLT

youtube.com/watch?v=--jWIN2WnpA

I think I have a massive varied/shit taste, but I can't help but really like some of these remixes.

catchy tune desu

Bass clarinet is also GOAT woodwind

youtube.com/watch?v=NBG1DuNcxEY

meant to include this

What are some symphonies or regular pieces that are close to the overture of Swan Lake? I've heard it at least 4 times, and the opening is the only thing i like of that symphony.

You might like Tchaikovsky's violin concerto

youtube.com/watch?v=CTE08SS8fNk

Best Art of Fugue recording outside of Koroliov? Piano is fine but I'd prefer something historical. No shit quartets either.

I-I like the sound of the Harpsichord.
*runs away*

Davitt Moroney

same

>I'd prefer something historical

Robert Hill.

Heard you the first time, autist, I get it, you don't listen to baroque music.

People who like "Baroque" music listen to it on piano.

>he takes his robotic banjo piano very seriously

But this is about you and your clear lack of experience.

>Enjoy your inferior instrument.

>historicists throwing an autism fit in a thread about humor
It's funny in its own way.

see

You started it.

see

can someone recommend me some very obscure pieces for solo classical piano?

>piano
Listen to the harpsichord, sounds much better.

[citation needed]

Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata

Zhu Xiao-Mei

Is Parsifal the best Wagner?

seeand

Maybe. It's certainly the hardest to appreciate, in my opinion. It's a very subtle and meditative work which, for me, was difficult to fully digest having been accustomed to the high-octane drama present in Tristan and The Ring.

,

>not mastersingers

That's a great opera. My favorite part is the shoemaker's song in act 2

youtube.com/watch?v=ax2Z99fH7Yc

this is mine

that fucking wall of sound

It's up there

youtube.com/watch?v=KCYrLlbV3Uo

>That heavenly rumbling at 18m onwards

Parsifal is the closest I've had to a religious experience in my entire life. The redeemer redeemed.

Not bad.

Wow. Nice blog.

youtube.com/watch?v=U1z0E-w5l-8

I demand to hear something similar to this. Scarlatti maybe? Help me out, /classical/.

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Ayyy I'm back in the dubtrack room.

I like Mozart's piano concertos

Good. They're among the best music ever composed.

I like 21 the most.

I'm a fan of 20 and 25, myself

mozart

>art of fugue
>piano

what is this pls

vocaroo.com/i/s0S3qSdUqK9b

First scene of the first act of Cosi fan tutte.

Doesn't get better than this. Mixing up the instrumentation keeps it very interesting.

The definitive recording, despite what baroque-on-modern-piano-fags will say.

Anything by Victor Borge. One of my all-time favourite comedians and musicians.
youtube.com/watch?v=EnXpApEsx5I

Writing a program is a bit like writing music.

thoughts on Carl Loewe?idk anything bout him except he first used tone poems, is he noteworthy?

frgot his face

Schnittke sometimes sounds like a perfectly good, finely worked table with excellent, awesome build quality and extremely high technical standards but one leg is very obviously missing. The missing leg is the most obvious thing about the table and it stands there proudly, presenting its one leg that's not there.

A comedic, yet horrifying and also dead serious situation.

The key to most of his work is his version of "silent night, holy night"

What are some other 20th century minimalists to listen to? I've listened to everything I could find on Reich, Riley, Glass, but I need more.

John Adams, Julia Wolfe

Holy shit this nigger is so overrated

Fuck off poly.

Poly?

I am the one who posted about schnittke by the way and here's me saying that Mozart is excellent and if you think you can't learn from him you probably fool yourself.

He's amazing.

What else do I need by Debussy? (inb4ditch debussy and go for Ravel)

What are some other essential works by him? I'm looking for archetypically impressionist and eclectic works (preferrably no more solo piano, I've enough as it is; I'm aiming for a bit of timbric variety)

Etudes as well.

The sonatas (Cello; Flute, viola and harp; Violin)

That's like 75 min of solo piano though

I've also listened to a lot of Adams, but I will check out Wolfe. Thanks!

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Was Holst a fucking idiot?

>Write a bunch of memes
>Somehow manage to put one of the best pieces ever in the middle of one of them

youtube.com/watch?v=Nz0b4STz1lo

He's just making Stravinsky that appeals to anglos

Went to see a live orchestra for the first time the other day. It was Ode to Joy. Then the whole chorus was involved it was pretty damn impressive.

Which are the best pieces to see live?

whats the best instrument to learn

Harpsichord

Honestly I feel like coughing is almost part of classical music

I think that was the whole point of 4'33

absolutely

It's amazing

We are listening to some old faggot cough their lungs out from over sixty years ago!

Further FPTMIU

www19.zippyshare.com/v/5S3pY94w/file.html
these are the tracks

>Fur Elise (Dubstep Remix)

How would that even work

>he defends his beloved mechanic hammered dulcimer for ham-fisted peasants

What does Cred Forums think of Dvořák?

damn, I never realized it, but he's sexy af

HOW BOUT YOU ACTUALLY LISTEN TO IT INSTEAD OF BEING A CRAZY COMPLETIONIST!?!?

was there ever experimental music in the past? like free form styled with classical leanings, or something that would have been considered avant garde?

Avro Part.

I don't like old recordings. Am I a pleb?

Why would there be? They wouldn't be able to record it and it wouldn't be worth the money it would cost to ever actually show it.

Sure

No

A lot of the best music from the 19th century and later is highly experimental and avant-garde, including and especially the music of such well-known composers as Beethoven and Wagner.

Debussy

Best Baroque composers?

Bach, Bach, and Bach. (only referring to Johann Sebastian Bach, btw)

Examples?

kys avant-teen scum

...

Well, the most extreme example from Beethoven would probably be his Grosse Fuge: youtube.com/watch?v=xjUh11EPGcM

But pretty much all of his later music is highly avant-garde.

What??

The final movement of Mozart's last symphony.

BWAAAAAAANNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!