ITT: Albums you really want to "get" but just don't

What VSnares have you listened to? He's put out both solid gold and hot trash.

The one with the cat and pic related

how many top 40 songs do you see that are 13 minutes long
just because the music has a focus on the vocals and melody does not mean it is pop

Whitehouse is fucking fantastic, but they took like 17 years to make good music. I think Mummy and Daddy, Cruise, and Birdseed are classics. I won't attack someone for not getting it though. But, they have created the most loud, terrifying, energetic, manic, insane music on the planet.

Songs About My Cats is good, but I would stay away from anything with an edgy cover for now.

My personal favorite is Huge Chrome Cylinder Box Unfolding, but Rossz and printf are also amazing.

Thanks lads.

But definitely listen to this album if you really want to get into Whitehouse. If you do manage to get a download or whatever, then try to feel the music and the lyrics. It's extremely rewarding to actually enjoy the music too. It's like a step into a different world.

I didn't like it at first either. Bros was like a stone wall, so repetitive. I thought it was so boring. But the whole album is really carried by timbre. I mean, the songwriting is like any Panda Bear songwriting, really repetitive and pretty simple, with an emphasis on vocal melody and harmony, but all the samples and instrumentation and vocals just come together well, especially all reverbed out like they are. Bros itself is almost, like, trance inducing in all of it's repetition.

It's a bit overrated though. PBvsGR is good too, though not as good

90% of the music talked about on Cred Forums is popular music. Inside of that distinction, "Pop", and "not pop" is as clear cut as you're making it out to be.

That said, it does have poppy elements

Can someone explain this album to me? Why do people hail it as the second coming of the Beatles? It doesn't even sound like their music

>this entire concept

just listen to the album a few more times you dumb fucks

I used to not understand Person Pitch but then I went to the beach and went out walking at 10pm by the pier and it clicked like very few albums have ever clicked with me. It's a glorious masterpiece. And I don't like the majority of AnCo's stuff

I'll explain: it's a terrible album people with 0 knowledge in psychedelic music praise.

(Continued) Something about it is just so pretty, definetly give it another chance

>Huge Chrome Cylinder Box Unfolding
probably my favorite as well. 7/4 nowhere to be found.

What the fuck is so special about Swans.

if its so bad why do people keep posting it?

what's '''''''good'''''' psychedelic music then?

if you are unable to "get" albums then you aren't listening to music properly

a competent music listener shouldn't have to work to "get" an album, you should "get" it by, at the very most, your third listen. if you're taking any longer than that, that's fine, you're just an idiot.

Pic related. It's a retread of all the things Pop Tatari and Soul Discharge did but worse. But for some reason people really like it a lot and I don't understand why. It goes on for way too fucking long for what it is.

took me 10 listens to get faust and tmr am I a pleb? I always liked miss fortune though

Well Swans' whole shtick is that they use repetition to build up their compositions. Their songs always start with some short phrase, then the composition just builds from there. That's for most of their albums at least. SFTB is a different beast.

Early on, Gira still used this style, but the songs were all way simpler than they are in the post revival era. Though, even though early Swans is usually just lumped up as No-Wave, their early work is actually somewhat varied. I mean, it's all "heavy", but for example, Filth is kind of groovy in the fact that it's bass driven and employs too drummers, and Cop isn't groovy at all, in fact that album is like proto-Sludge

Anyways, if you started with SFTB or any post revival stuff, like the Seer or TBK, that may be why you don't like them. Not that The Seer and TBK are super inaccessible or anything, it's just that they aren't particularly good jumping off points. I started with SFTB and I thought is was alright, but when I went back to Filth, I immediately liked it. And then when I eventually went back to SFTB, it was fantastic

jimi hendrix, of course

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What's to get? Basically just a shittier version of magical Mystery Tour. You're probably not understanding the message because these meme tier psych rock synth fags aren't capable of writing music with a message

Pink Floyd, The Doors, The Beatles, Foxygen isn't bad.

i agree.

this album just worked for me at random on my 3rd or 4th listen.

really? his music has always been pretty easy for me to get into. Don't love him like some do, but he ripped on guitar, and he has some good songs in his catalogue.

Never liked Foxygen. Can you recommend something to start with? I'm willing to give 'em more chances.

The Doors (for me) were always so pretentious feeling, which I think was usually due to Jim's lyrics.

yeah man, nothing will ever live up to the epic message of "do drugs lol peace lol"

>muh beatles
There is a huge difference between MMT and PP. Just because they're both psych doesn't mean they're the same

>meme tier psych rock synth fags
take away "synth" and that could be someone insulting the beatles. Besides, the main instrument of PP is a sampler

>take away Synth and that could be an insult to the Beatles
But it's not lol
Never listened to the Beatles
No Destruction is a good song, and the whole album isn't bad. Doors are great, never paid attention to the lyrics always just took them for psych nonsense. Now their fb page, THAT'S pretentous

i listen to all their albums from revolver on pretty regularly and grew up with their music. it doesn't change the fact that their message doesn't run deep. at least half of paul's songs are completely meaningless, john's psychedelic songs are more about imagery than anything, and john's later more serious songs are incredibly naive and don't have much depth either

>But it's not lol
But it is, my point was that it was an empty insult that could have been used on anyone.

You're whole argument was
>nope not as good as muh beatles, I only listen to music with a message
Like some youtube commentor. Give an actual reason why MMM is so much better than Person Pitch

Well idk how you're perceiving it because I always loved their lyrics. The sarcastic wit of john's songs, the stories Paul would weave with his lyrics. The nonsensical nature. Yeah they did a lot of drugs but the message of their lyrics was never about drugs except for one song. And how are you gonna call john's later songs meaningless? Julia was about his mother who died when he was boy, across the universe is about inner peace and the nature of the world. Is that meaningless to you? That's genius

It's not an empty insult. I think music that relys too heavily on synth is bad. You can't use that insult on anyone because not everyone uses Synth. It was a direct attack.

Umm let's see, here's one reason. Because it was so boring that I couldn't even get through the first song. This is Cred Forums the same board that thinks pet Sounds is GOAT, the taste here just blows. PP is no exception.

>music that relys too heavily on synth is bad.
why? what if I said that music that relies too heavily on guitar is bad? and again, there's very little synth on that album in the first place.

I'd argue that Panda's lyrics have more "meaning" than the beatles, but "meaning" doesn't equal good, because Panda's lyrics aren't great. But for the most part, especially of PP, they're just uplifting, personal mantras

But Panda cares more about vocal melodies and harmony anyways, lyrics come second

PP doesn't rely very much on synths, and the first track, the only one you listened to, literally doesn't use synths at all, besides the drone at the end.

>I think music that relys too heavily on synth is bad
Why? It's just an instrument. That's like saying you hate Robbie Basho because he relies too heavily on the guitar, or you hate Erik Satie because he relies too much on the Piano

Ok, I will admit that I miss classified the album due to my own biased judgments. However I'm still not going to relisten to something I know is going to be mediocre to try to question my judgment.
I just don't have it in me. Synth is just a bad instrument in my opinion, it's too computerized imo. Doesn't have any analogue warmth to it. I think it's nice here and there as decoration but I don't think it's an inherently good sounding instrument like a Piano or a Cello.

Look when you have a guitar. You're hitting a real string, that goes through a pickup and out an amplifier. With a Synth it's all just computer generated. I don't like that.

why are you afraid to question your judgement? how do you know it's mediocre if you only listened to it once, didn't give it a fair chance and didn't really understand what it was? why would you not listen to it for the things that it does well (harmony, rhythmic vocal style, complex layering of samples to make an instrumental) instead of judging it how you would judge something else?
how's your first day on Cred Forums btw?

>i don't like it = it's terrible
Yawn. Seen this one too many times.

Every time these threads pop up. This is one of the only albums I don't see the hype for.

I've listened to it on great headphones, speakers, earphones, whatever the fuck.

I just find it boring. It feels like it drags on and on and on.

Been here a long time friend, left because I couldn't stand the cancer that this place is. I guess you could say this is my first day back. And because I just know ok. I've given everything on this board a chance from Slint to Trout Mask Replica and it all sucked. I'm not going to waste any more of my time on something that I know has a 99.999% chance of being crap

>I couldn't stand the cancer that this place is
Why did you come back? I'm about to quit Cred Forums forever (really I am) and I can't wait to leave this fucking shit hole. 8 fucking years.

its trying to emulate the noisiness you might hear in your head when youre feeling cognitive dissonance usually related to being in a relationship.

I'm still probably never going to like it. Over 10 listens and I probably find it more "tolerable" now than I did previous. It's still not my thing though.

Got nothing better to do haha living the fucking neet life over here

well theres a whole subgenre devoted to it ' noise rock' or more specifically shoegaze where the wall of sound plays a significant part in the music. have you tried innerspeaker? its basically loveless but minus the wall of noise that blankets everything, its more clear sounding more clean

not even a difficult listen

itt: kids unable to "get" incredibly simple and accessible albums

youre literally retarded if you dont like this album

>a bad instrument
>inherently good sounding
No instrument is inherently good or bad.

>Doesn't have any analogue warmth to it
It's funny that you think that. Analogue synths exist, you know

>I'm still not going to relisten to something I know is going to be mediocre
You listened to one track. You have no idea what the album is like, so stop pretending you do

It's all just sound. I mean, it's fine if you don't like the timbre of a synth, as varied as the timbre of a synth can be, but that doesn't make it a bad instrument

Exercise, read a book, socialise with friends, learn how to cook, learn another instrument. Anything, literally ANYTHING is better than this website.

vietnam era was the best psych but i think most of its influence now is on other subgenres while revival psych is kind of meh

It shouldn't be held as ground breaking, but it is great psychedelic pop rock

Yes, I like Innerspeaker.

>its basically loveless but minus the wall of noise that blankets everything
um wut

I don't think anyone holds it as ground breaking, it's great great psych rock. I wouldn't call it "pop" though. Everyone on here seems to love to call something pop simply because a lot of people like it. Unless you mean the term popular that is.

Pretty much anything by them. I like Admonishing the Bishops a lot though and Strangers has some good moments on it.

I listened to Lovelyville a while back now a few times and I'm with you there. I'm sure they had fun doing it, but it sounds like a less sensical version of anything Cows put out.

DIE WINNIPEG DIE DIE DIE FUCKERS DIE
is maybe one of my favorite breakcore songs of all time
That beat kicks in so insanely hard

2bh

Oh sorry i mean in general tame has done pop, in their new album.

And with the whole ground breaking, i've heard tonnes of (insert insulting name) say this

fucking this

Well it's all the the work of a single person who has schizophrenia, which is kinda interesting. He has an innocent and naive voice while singing some depressing stuff, and it gives a gloomy vibe. He also does all the work, from production to the singing to instruments.

not to mention he is just an innately gifted songwriter. he can shit out a perfect pop song on a whim, and did so many times and released them as albums, such as hi how are you.
now im not super informed of daniel johnstons creative process, but i doubt he labored over these songs for very long, but they are still just gold.
his schizoprenia and eerie signature sound are definitely attention grabbing, but once you look past all that, the guy really was a genius.

the four kids at the bottom of this album art is supposed to be AnCo from left to right Avey, Deakin , Geo and Panda bear

>it's all the the work of a single person who has schizophrenia
WILD

it was hard getting into those but now i really like those albums

the entire sonic youth discography.
actually i don't even want to get it anymore it's apparent to me now it's just terribly written songs scattered with avant-garde elements. i like their cover of superstar tho.

same

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This fucking album

Anyone have some Fanal / Workshop ( Music from Kai Althoff???) would be great!

this isnt that good but lonerism and currents are 10/10

This one

The best way I can explain this is, it's about the trials and tribulations of being a teenage boy. All the things you face, growing up. Relationships, bullying, anxiety, loneliness, etc. Give it a few more listens and really focus on the lyrics. Like in the song "Can't run away".

>uplifting, personal mantras
well put
I don't feel like a song has to have a clear narrative or message, like 'and this is why you shouldn't do this and that', it's just emotional expression

citation? or is it just a speculation

I like Pornography and TIB but this one seems imposible to me. I have listened to this from beginning to end at least 6 times

Why music taste has to be subjective?

This so much lmao

Albums you've actually listened to that you don't get? Because there are tons of records that I don't get but have never spent the time to actually listen to it all the way through. Pic related for example.