Microgenre thread

Thanks user! Will check those bands out

Folk is dead

phaserwave/slushwave

welcome senpai

Serbwave is the best
youtube.com/watch?v=Q1CBfdxWIeQ

Dreamwave or mallsoft for sure, vaporwave has just branched off into so many subgenres but it seems that the automatic perception of vaporwave these days is just future funk (Saint Pepsi, Macross 82-89, etc.) the closest thing I've heard to actual vaporwave is the stuff from luxury elite but yeah

Post-lolicore

what the hell is slushwave and where did it come from

You forgot Scarufficore.

Hypnagogic Rock

Unfortunately the retards on RYM don't recognize it

Also post acid

It's basically extreme phaserwave. It involves multiple phasers heavy in the mix that makes it sound very 'slushy' from my understanding. No idea who coined the term, telepath or humannightmare maybe.

Tropical Shoegaze. Limited to 2 bands, one of which is a spinoff of the other.

So there's going to be a new genre for every single effect people discover in FL Studio?

>Bitcrusherwave
>Vocoderwave
>Soundgoodizerwave

Link to said bands?

>Compressorwave

It's just Candy Claws.

youtube.com/watch?v=dkC4tdYW5jg
youtube.com/watch?v=QJhC27KKCQY
youtube.com/watch?v=dSiHxQeNNdk

>adhering to and perpetuating genre tags
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Shibuya-kei

k

future house AKA post-dubstep

the 2011-2013 boom

progressive dreamfunk

Has Cred Forums ever made up a microgenre, aside from progressive dreamfunk and post-avant jazzcore?

Deep Internet

And no don't ask

I think spookycore has it's origins on Cred Forums

Don't quote me on that

I think meme music (aldean/death grips/kanye/grimes) is the best term it has come with.

example of hypnagogic rock?

probably DSBM

Sounds like deep house mixed with vaporwave

seconded

Dungeon synth is a recent favorite of mine

Ringo Deathstarr and Asobi Seksu have a 'sunny' sound I see as vaguely similar to Candy Claws, but I do agree nothing comes close to their tropical vibes

youtube.com/channel/UCHm_D4kNQaRshalYoB1qtbw
youtube.com/watch?v=kB2m58WWAqU

Can only speak to funeral doom but

> Mournful Congregation
> Thergothron
> Ea

fuck. Didn't mean to link that channel, wanted to post this

youtube.com/watch?v=bUJVhNPCNG4

Which album should I start with?

I already like Ringo Deatstarr, but I didn't know about Asobi Seksu.
Thank you senpai

Canterbury scene.

Anything from Ariel Pink's early records.

If you think the fucking seismic shift from his early stuff to the stuff on Before Today/Mature Themes/Pom Pom doesn't warrant a totally new microgenre that isn't lo-fi indie then I'm afraid you're dead wrong

Eurobeat

Indie rock :)

Candy Claws have literally two albums. Ceres & Calypso if you like dense, blissful shoegaze, In the Dream of the Sea Life if you dig noise

Nostalgia For Infinity is much more dream pop

Witch house / dark ambient/wave / that area. For the feels.

I wouldn't consider Eurobeat to be a microgenre desu

One of the most beautiful albums I've listened to, good choice

I remember seeing the threads a couple times. guess the guys got tired or what?

What actually happened?

Vaporgaze

Modal jazz m8

isnt that just hypnagogic pop?

This is great

>Math Rock
I don't know if its a micro genre or just an unfortunately named sub genre but if it counts then yes

what the fuck is hobbit rock

This is a very good question

It's just an unfortunately named subgenre really

Avant-arctic dub-wop

There is already a term. It's called hypnagogic pop. It is recognized by RYM, and was first coined to refer to Ariel Pink's music.

It's also the forefather of chillwave and paved the way for witch house and vaporwave. It's definitely by far the most influential microgenre in recent history, and also the best.

all these

not a micro genre, just not discussed on Cred Forums

slaprock

what the fuck is porn groove
why is it pop rock and hatecore
how is it proto-dubstep

so many questions

...

Oceangrunge.

Fatwave and sportswave too, but both of those were like nanogenres.

I would assume it's either prog rock with fantasy themes, or hard rock with fantasy themes (i.e. Led Zeppelin).

oh my this is good

My nigger
Storm Memories is the shit
youtube.com/watch?v=6YyMDKXd6UY

The best oceangrunge album is Sludge Dredd.

youtube.com/watch?v=6LW8RFhGDDY

What is a microgenre?

For example:

Rock is a broad genre of music. Metal is a more specific genre of rock, but most people consider it a genre on its own. Black metal is a subgenre of metal. Depressive Black Metal is a microgenre.

To think of it in other terms:

Horror is a broad genre of film. Slashers are a subgenre of horror. Splatters are a microgenre of horror.

Well that's dumb. Why is it necessary? If something is in a minor key instead of a major, or the BPM is faster doesn't make it a new genre.

>or the BPM is faster
b r e a k c o r e

Tell that to speedcore
Essentially just hardcore techno sped up to +300bpm

I'm telling you because you people perpetuate this nonsense

black metal with vaguely rough production and classic black metal tones and musical signatures, but playing really uplifting blackgaze melodies. woods of desolations two latest albums basically. i dont think it has a name. 2ndwavehappyblackgaze

But it's fun senpai

>Why is it necessary?

For exactly the same reasons that genres exist in the first place.

Categorization is useful, and fundamental to the human existence. Even if you think BPM is a trivial element to the music (which it isn't), categorizing different artists of a same style by speed provides in essence the same benefit as separating them by different styles - it helps a listener find what they're looking for.

"Why is doom metal a genre? It's just slower metal."
"Why is metal a genre? It's just distorted rock."
"Why is rock a genre? It's just electric blues."

>categorizing different artists of a same style by speed provides in essence the same benefit as separating them by different styles
It ceases to become a style, and just simply an arrangement characteristic.

loligaze

>It ceases to become a style, and just simply an arrangement characteristic.

Style is just as meaningless as the word "genre".

Things are ordered by their characteristics. Just because you find the differences so small as to be irrelevant, means nothing. Genres, like all categories, are determined by human beings, and are kept in place by the popularity of using that category.

And it is rare for someone to successfully campaign the dismantling of categories for the simple reason of perceiving the characteristics to be unimportant, especially in regards to popular music.

Get over it.

>Style is just as meaningless as the word "genre".
If it's meaningless, then stop using microgenres

Just because you find the differences so large as to be relevant, means nothing. Genres, like all categories, are determined by human beings, and are kept in place by the popularity of using that category.

And it is rare for someone to successfully campaign the creation of categories for the simple reason of perceiving the characteristics to be important, especially in regards to popular music.

Get over it.

At the end of the day, people are still going to be using them, man.

Let's have it your way for a moment though. What's your favorite sound thing? I

>people are still going to be using them, man.
Not people with any sort of musical expertise, though.
>What's your favorite sound thing? I
What?

>Not people with any sort of musical expertise, though.

Nice appeal to authority.

>What?

Genres are meaningless. Everything is sound, stop trying to divide it with pointless shit.

What is your favorite sound thing?

>Nice appeal to authority.
You mean like the appeal to popularity here >Genres are meaningless
Then why use microgenres at all?
>What is your favorite sound thing?
Why is this relevant?

>muh sound
pleb

rosenstock-core

Sportswave was fun while it lasted

crab core

who /transcendental black metal/

sporkcore and mallgoth

Blackgaze and Atmospheric Black Metal comes to mind.

This is kind of in the same ballpark, minus the uplifting elements.
Spectralxprocession.bandcamp.com

>Soundgoodizerwave
silly user, future funk already exists.

Yah i mean i'd say it was blackgaze but idk, that covers a pretty wide range. Atmospheric black metal can cover it as well but that could be stuff thats like fucking idk paysage dhiver. both can cover a really wide spectrum and yet also meet in the middle. I guess i'm talking about that middle. Literally just like, woods of desolation's latest two albums. Maybe bits and bobs of sleeping peonies. Le Secret by Alcest and nothing past that.

lets call it melodic black metal. that works. with no pagan or viking cuntery either.

swedish stoner-ie classic rock 70's worship.

see: graveyard, pain of salvation's road salt albums, opeth's new stuff when it isn't shit, ghost sort of applies for their first album, horisont etc.

Is coldwave a microgenre?

I don't know but microwave is
It literally has micro in the name

Hardcore sludge aka sludgecore
(Think Iron Monkey, Leechmilk, Admiral Angry, early-Isis)

Also Tribal Ambient and Power Electronics are worth mentioning

Really firing up my neurons up here.
youtube.com/watch?v=z_UTk-KocGM

probably MATLAB:
ddx-10.bandcamp.com/album/spv-laboratories-vol-2

>Has Cred Forums ever made up a microgenre, aside from progressive dreamfunk and post-avant jazzcore?
YES

>EXOTRANSMISSION
The name was aliencore, but since is already used for metalcore with alien themes, we changed the name for exotransmission.
Exotransmission idea was "imagine if aliens tried to contact us with sounds."
People basically tried to to those songs. In the end the stuff is basically harsh noise, power electronics, glitch, idm, lowercase...

>TONEFIELD
There is a painting genre called color field painting (see pic), some guy usually asked on "create your dream genre" threads how this genre would be.
Then after someone came with an idea and tried to do it:
1-Get all the characteristics that form colorfield painting genre and list down them
2-Convert them to musical characteristics using logic, musical skills and painting theory skills
3-Make music that has all characteristics of step 2.

Few people liked the genre (you will see why later) and just few albums were and are being made.
The sub-genre basically is:
1-Song is mono.
2-Song start/continue with a tone or silence.
3-They have at least 1 second, tone must have same volume, frequency and waveform.
4-End song (you cant end song unless you have at least one tone) or go to step 2.
One label was created to catalog the stuff made and being made by mutants:
wavelength2.bandcamp.com/
This is one of the few microgenres that is really an unique thing.

PS: Forgot to add you can find exotransmission records on bandcamp with the tag exotransmission, aliencore find some but be carefull with the metalcore stuff with alien themes (the reason we changed name).

>MALLSOFT
People just focused on mall themes. Not really an genre since themes alone dont make genres. As some example pornogrind is not just grindcore with porn themes.
In the end it sounds like vaporwave with alot of echo.
This can be found on bandcamp too:
bandcamp.com/tag/mallsoft

>DEEP INTERNET
Here they also just focused on the theme, and made anything they wanted, the theme focused was videos with ultra low views.
The end result was like if some industrial related genre artist said "I will try to make vaporwave, but fuck that 80s bullshit".

This is also found on bandcamp:
bandcamp.com/tag/deep-internet

>METRO-KO
We made a thread where we would come with an new genre that we would try to shill it as the next bigges thing.
The genre that was selected by people was metro ko, the genre had characteristics and was not just an theme thing, like others, but no one bothered with them and just focused on the theme, when people asked for info on how the make music some even said "just make song with the theme".
This made the thing impossible to shill as no one would believe the different stuff is the same genre.
Anyway the theme was walking alone at night in a city.
After few days, people said we needed to have just one thread per week, to avoid people making quick shitty albums and let people spend more time on it. This was almost the exact moment the thing died, no one cared after the second week thread (third week if we count the first week we had daily threads)

Bandcamp is where you find those too:
bandcamp.com/tag/metro-ko

hypergrunge
youtube.com/watch?v=6L5izYUJxKA

>OCEANGRUNGE
This was just made by just few people and spammed here, its just grunge with some effects.
It was spammed here by one guy (or just few ones)
He problably just saw the name seapunk and decided, because the lack of creativity created oceangrunge. He changed the punk with grunge and the sea with ocean. What he didnt knew is that the punk from seapunk is not the genre or lifestyle but the punk from *punk like steampunk, dieselpunk and etc....
Bandcamp has this:
bandcamp.com/tag/oceangrunge

>SPOOKYCORE
They said the theme was to create a very spooky genre, but many followed the route of that "spooky scary skeletons song", that is not scary at all.
Few complained, almost everyone else involved continued doing it.

>WATERBASS
Laster just few days (3 at max if I remember)
It was like this.
Get an song and slow the tempo but not pitch to make the song have a specific lenght of X minutes.
Slow down both tempo and pitch by Y. Y was any amount between Z and W.
Songs had almost 1 hour and were basically dark ambient.
Op said he tried to make a reversal of a microgenre (not created by Cred Forums) that is called spitbass, (has 14 to 16 seconds, and is ultra fast and mono).
He basically made an thread saying "look how cool is this", posting info on how to do it, and people followed him, trying to see how the result would be, he then named it waterbass.
We mostly uploaded it on filesharing services and posted on the thread, but some tried to send to pitchfork to make them review it.

>FATWAVE
Dont remember but we made and can be found on bandcamp

>FRUITPUNK
Dont remember but we made and can be found on bandcamp

>SPORTSWAVE
The theme was sports, but dont remember the specifics. You can find it on bandcamp.

>TINTINTRONICS
Dont remember right now but it has something to do with tintin and power electronics.
You can problably try to find on bandcamp.

>COSMIC SYNTH
Some guy tried to follow his own at the time tintintronic was made here.
It was basically synth based music, with paulstretch and then all tones above X frequency being filtered (dont remember if it was 3000 hz or 600hz or 300 hz).
He made it alone and posted just few fileshared links and forgot about it, no one cared about it other than him and the ones that listened.

>Desertwave.
Dont remember how it is, but the themes are desert.
Dont remember if people just followed the theme and many anything they wanted or if the genre really had unique characteristics.

>BLACK METAL RELATED ONE I FORGOT THE NAME
If I remember, There was one related to black metal we done.

And this is all I remember

Vaporwave