How old were you when you grew out of liberalism?

About 22, stopped smoking weed and seen what a cuck i'd become.

leftism is losers who wanna see other people's businesses crumble, so everyone become as mediocre as them

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Then you are a fucking idiot.

How old were you when you grew out of edgy libertarianism?

i was never into libralism because i am not a complete fucking retard with no grasp on economics or evolution of the human (white) race

This.

See? you sound like the screaming hillbilly portrayed as the left in ops pic.

Back your shit up with facts you supposed book reader.

sure kid. uses "bro", expects to be taken seriously.

I'm conservative and i smoke more weed in a day than you ever had. Blaze it fagit.

never, because my family raised me in a way that taught me to appreciate family values and hard work instead of crying and asking for handouts

Ths. Blindly pledging allegiance to the ideals of any political party is stupid. Don't be a Republican. Don't be a Democrat. Don't be Liberal or Conservative; be an American.

hillbilly's don't scream racism. liberals do.

are you me?

>be an American.

No thanks, Americans suck.

Why waste my time? If you are ignorant enough to be a progressive/liberal, I would have better luck teaching a brick wall how to speak.

name 20 books you've read faggot

>Calls the left, liberalism
Ameritard detected

idk, am i?

PRAISE KEK

Insults. Not facts.

If you picked up a book other than mein kampf you might be able to say something useful

this
and you're not american, faggots, you're yankees

When I started grossing 3k a week and loosing over half of it in taxes.

And how does jerking it to pony porn and cuddling with an anime body pillow at night fit in to that equation?

7

This election year, seeing my friends on Facebook blindly sharing anything with "occupy democrats" or similar bullshit. What's funny is they all complain about conservatives blindly following Trump.

Very early 20s.

hurr durr strawman and projecting hurrrrr

socialism master race

>Appreciating family values
>on Cred Forums

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claims insults, posts insults.

satanism spotted

found the leftist failure! how does it feel to be someones bitch and being jealous of them? :^)

The day I decided that building things was for libtards and dropping out of school, being unemployable, and hating the things liberals build was the way to go.

When I realized that both sides were just rich assholes trying to control the lives of the average citizen.

>Any system could work if you prevent the rich from controlling it.

What country are you from? Oh,that's right- nobody cares. Now get back to consuming all of our products, media, and ideals while selling us the vast majority of the world's most valuable resources for bargain prices;there's a good chap.

Yes because your strange strawman argument that unironically compares Conservatives to nazis, is full of facts..

no one is posting facts kid. OP asked a question. you're the nigger in this thread.

BE A MURRICUCK GOY

You triggered?

Hate to break it to you, but if you think that modern GOP is anywhere close to conservative you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

youtube.com/watch?v=zDkzpVIBfH0

>thinking that being conservative will get you out of the cuck zone

COMMUNISM MY DUDES

do all americunts actually think that capitalism is a good thing?

How about "Anarchy, State, and Utopia" or the "Federalists Papers" or some Friedrich Hayek you liberal fuck.

Giving a shit about politics or religion is the biggest waste of people's time.

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you're stupid enough to think that kid.

THATS WHY WE HAVE TO SEIZE THE MEAN OF PRODUCTION COMMRADE

CONSERVATISM ARE BACKWARDS AND OUTDATED ON SOCIAL ISSUES

Are all Europeans dumb enough to think that Socialism works?

Early 20s. It was around them I read Fashionable Nonsense by Socal and Bricmont.

You've answered my question then

About 3 years ago when I started taking pride in my nation and want to restore it to some of its former glory.

sure kid. how often are your "problems" solved by the liberals?

guess being a nigger it's better than being poor white who doesn't realize he is poor because he is fucking stupid and a person who let his landlord fuck his girl -if you even have a girl- but then he realizes he is a cuck, because his dick is fucking erect, but not because of his wife; it's because of the bourgeoise dick getting in and out of your girl -if you have one- and then you realize you want to fucking suck it so your gay

sauce?

how often your problems are solved by the politic class

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What are you doing on Cred Forums if that's not how you live?

SEIZE THE memes OF PRODUCTION MY COMRADUDE

yes I have. you are stupid. another dumb as fuck millennial.
I bet you are running around your mothers basement screaming "I won, I won" in your dirty underwear.

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>when I had severe head trauma that considerably lowered my intelligence
j/k i'm a liberal

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>dirty underwear
you described yourself

How often are yours solved by Conservatives?

works perfectly fine for me. i've got free healthcare and free college education. feels good to be middle class european

psychological projection right here folks.
forget your meds today?

keep posting this interracial mmf. Haven't fapped to this shit in a while

Gee you really are triggered
And what are you doing to Cred Forums if you are so old nigger? Nothin better to do?

Whichever side hates niggers and anyone non-white is the side I am on

I don't have problems.

>psychological projection
sorry but you're not smart :(
your gay XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Conservatives:

deny evolution
deny climate change
ban books
are bigger welfare states (see red states vs blue states)
have higher rates of teen pregnancy
start wars
cut public funding (education, VA, etc.)
are religious extremists
become terrorists

If this is what "growing out of liberalism" means then I'll stay a child, thanks.

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25 or 26.

Wake up call was when black Jesus allowed west Africans with Ebola into the country. Bet most people here forgot that.

you really think this will do any damage?

16yo

Great, so you have an inferior health care and Education system and an economy that is probably losing jobs and money. Congrats, enjoy it while it lasts.

since when did we accept that other person fucking your girl and being horny about it isn't a problem?

More realistic version of OP's pic

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sorry kid. I work for a living.

wow you're stupid

never needed them to.

>dumb
>run successful public care programs for many decades
>have universal healthcare

The dumb one is you, my friend.

you really are dumb aren't you.

>misunderstood meme word
>vs. openly embraced ideology
rightists confirmed for retarded

selling your asshole for foodstamps on craiglist isn't a job, faggot

What does that even mean? Are we even having an argument about something here? Are conservatives really this stupid?

sure kid. the dumbest of the dumb.

I was a Liberal until about 20 before becoming a Socialist.

Nice triggered come back old man

Looks like we have an edgelord ladies and gentlemen

my comrade

Are you really that stupid?

Never? I never started giving a fuck what people do.
If you mean the american "liberalism". I finished elementary, so I know better.

implying what moron. you posted a random porn picture.

"I live with my parents," the post.

Cheers bro, keep posting

>not being a nihilist
how does it feel being fucking dumb

About a year ago. I'm 27

"everyone is a Democrat until they get a little more. Then the come to their senses"

Okay? You didn't refute any of my points, just name calling. Do you know how to have an argument? You don't even have the ability to convince me that you're right and I'm wrong. Why are you even trying?

Your mind is stuck in the 1990s if you thjnk any of that shit is relevant to modern conservatism. You see the pendulum has swung. Its is now Liberals who are the authoritarians. Conservatives just want to be left the fuck alone. People should be able to pursue whatever kind of life they want. Its liberals who want to get in the way. We just don't want big government, is that too much to ask for?

It means you have no grasp on economic reality. And I'm not a conservative :)

This is what retards believe.

>Socialists aren't liberal
liberal is a general term that applies to many political ideologies, Socialism is one of those

you really think you are bothering me kid?
generation fail.

A little money*

15, the moment I discovered Cred Forums.

How stupid is that? Specify, please.

Really? Funny that the economy does so much better under democratic administrations? Almost you're completely wrong and a faggot, and it's the utter opposite huh?

But they are.

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about two months ago when i took a good hard look at the democrats and realized they had grown into the party of corruption and big brother type bullshit
the same party that accuses the republicans of all these bullshit not does that bullshit
their sitting there stufifng there faces full of the box of candy marked for everyone and when their called on it they just keep stuffing while screaming "but yeah look over there, he has some of the candy in his pockets too"

to be fair i was always registered as an independent and voted for whoever i felt like
i voted for obama both times but asking me to vote for Hillary is to far

i might vote Trump or i might just stay home, havent decided yet

>How old were you when you grew out of liberalism?
14

why don't you tell me?

Always interesting to see muricans talking about so called "socialism", while their leftist parties, are considered center conservatives around here.

not the user you're quoting but what's seriously the point of arguing with retards on Cred Forums of all places? Just sit back, watch the autists argue out their bullshit and wait for the world to burn like Neitzche ultimately couldn't properly describe in his writings.

>until they get greedy and short-sighted
you don't make nearly enough money to benefit from Republican tax plans, I guarantee it

>deny evolution
No. These are (hardcore) christians.
>deny climate change
Just a few.
(It happens by the way, but not only because of humans)
>ban books
No.
>are bigger welfare states (see red states vs blue states)
Can't judge that, not an american. But in my city, some districts with many (not working and welfare collecting) foreigeners voted right-wing because of obvious reasons.
>have higher rates of teen pregnancy
Source?
>start wars
All ideologies start wars.
>cut public funding (education, VA, etc.)
>education
Are you serious?
>are religious extremists
No. I am an agnostic but conservative.
>become terrorists
What is antifa?

>waste of dubs

When was the last time you had pussy old man?

Economy is doing better? We have barely been able to maintain 2% GDP growth you retard.

kid go fuck yourself.

That pic makes no sense when hillary is funded by wall street.

>Funny that the economy does so much better under democratic administrations?
lmao wut? the national debt has gone up by like 10 trillion under democrats in the last decade

sure kid that's why we all in da money right now.

When I realised how many losers are living off my tax money

not really the evolution thing. for one it doesnt have any depth and their is more negatives than positives. reasons why modern scientists do not accept it as a final answer. IE Theory something to be disproven with facts

Kek

In the next 100 years there will be atleast one of this happen
>World War
>Civil War
>Rich enslave poor, Capitalism wins
>Most Countrys unite

>People should be able to pursue whatever kind of life they want

Conservatism as a political and social philosophy promotes retaining traditional social institutions in the context of culture and civilization. Some conservatives seek to preserve things as they are, emphasising stability and continuity, while others, called reactionaries, oppose modernism and seek a return to "the way things were".

>implying modernism let's you live any kind of life you want to

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Not once did I mention an economic ideology. It's like I make a point, and then people spout random nonsense at me in retaliation. There is literally no argument in this thread. Is this what American politics is like? Just stick to your position and put your head in the sand when someone challenges your preconceived notions? This is absolutely absurd.

Left is for BBC, left is for LGBT
>Left is for cucks

"If you're a Republican before you're 25, you're an asshole. If you're a Democrat after you're 30, you're an idiot."

whatever you are, you're a fucking idiot posting absolute nonsense

americas ten poorest cities would like to have a word with you
all run by democrats

ALOT MORE THAN CONSERVATIVES SOLVE MUCH ANYTHING!

The theories are still theories, so they can't be facts. Also there are different theories and different opinions under scientists.
This has nothing to do with the political world view.

yes

the loudest voice wins, and that's all people care about

no, i think you only get hot and bothered when you aren't hungry. it's the same as saying never, since you're fucking poor. go collect your food stamps you cum gargling faggot

Liberals are centerists. People who mediate and conpromise between the left (socialists) and the right (conservitives).

Again, you're not making an argument. Telling me to go fuck myself isn't going to make me actually go fuck myself. Stop denying reality. You have to deal with me but you are unable to. You know your arguments are shit and you have no validity to back up your point. You are in complete and utter denial. Your ideology is shit and you are shit. You have literally nothing.

cute

if you vote for economic self-interest, 99% of Americans would vote Democrat, and that certainly doesn't change between ages 25 and 30.

You kids are funny. How's high school?

no

that's not the definition of those words and your personal interpretation is absolutely meaningless

WOW youse sound really smart

See Tu Quoque

>thinking you can discuss something on Cred Forums

why don't you fucking discuss it irl faggot

Not to mention anti-weed, anti-change, anti-progress, anything they disagree with is wrong, anti-min. wage, etc.

Why so angry old man?

Cred Forums is apolitical. Go to Cred Forums

nobody cares for the 3rd world and there is where you are all going when capitalism crashes

You forgot the trillions in national debt the Democrats have created. Not to mention a democrat form 20 years ago would probably reconsidered a republican by today's standards.

you realize those number are artifically created by america barroing trillions of dollars and pumping it into those sectors right? the second someone collects on a debt or we stop getting spoon fed money from first world countries all that come tumbling down

>Cred Forums is apolitical

that explains the 457834632876523784655 Trump and Hilary threads everyday

You have no clue what it means to be a conservative then. Keep drinking that media kool-aid you sheep.

>all that growth
>conveniently leaves out the trillions of dollars of debt created by dems and the fact that the american dollar is almost worthless now

wew

I love the irony in this picture

>citation needed
>6th grade level of spelling needed

And the fact that republicans have swung that far right doesn't frighten you?

Right so if someone in my country wants to have their traditional lifestyle. I want them to be able to live that way. Liberals want to change society to the point that people aren't allowed to have the freedom to do what the fuck they want. Like i think people should be able to refuse to make a gay wedding cake if they don't want to. I wouldn't agree with them but because i believe in freedom i'd say let em. A liberal would be calling for prosecution. And thats whats makes liberals authoritarian.

I'll have a discussion about anything I want, wherever I want. It's not my fault the rest of you are completely unable to make any sort of argument to defend your bullshit positions.

Stop making this thread

>the Republicans created
Republicans started the bailout for the economic collapse they caused by deregulating exotic risk speculation. Democrat lead bailouts were repaid with interest while Republicans just shoveled money to banks with no plan for repayment.

Read a book you idiot.

HEYO! Give this man a Cigar! Cause he is SPOT ON.

your graph is so filled with economic ignorance. There never was a surplus fkin moron

And Obama more than doubled. Read a book you idiot.

Never, parents raised me to think for myself. After seeing what Obama did (nothing, he did very little to help our country) and living in a left-wing shithole full of crime and colonial level taxes that keep climbing, I lean more right but embrace left social values because passing laws because of religion is what Muslims do.

lol is this a troll? Look up what a scientific theory is, moron. Something can be a theory AND a fact. Germ theory? The theory of gravity? A theory is just a scientific model. Ladies and gentlemen, behold modern day conservatism.

>too fucking stupid to know what budget surplus is
gg

lol leftists post statistics
rightists get buttmad and start ranting incoherently/"CUCKS!"

this is the political climate in America to a t.

>Instead have a binding allegiance to America

Are you fucking retarded? That is because modern democrats have swung that far to the left.

>Obama
no, it was the Federal Reserve, Obama does not control that. And once again, they were cleaning up a mess that was caused by Republican policies of market deregulation.

Do you watch FOX all day long or something?

The people in charge of Washington aren't in charge of the global economy dumbass. If there's a crash in china you think that has anything to do with whos running the Senate?

so your a great American success story then.
tell us all about it kid.

>These are (hardcore) christians.
Who are almost all conservatives.
>Just a few.
Especially the few that serve in public office
>cut public funding (education, VA, etc.)
>education
>Are you serious?
Yes, very serious. Conservatives are always attacking the school budget.

The crash started in America and was caused by Republican policies of market deregulation.

Trump is going to win weather you like it or not. Trump is America.

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So there are many different fact about the same thing?
Even in school you get taught that we don't really know about the origin of mankind.

This user gets it.
I would put myself somewhere around social democrat/leftist libertarian, but I also am not such a self-absorbed faggot to not cede that other ideologies make some valid points. For example, the conservative ideas of being self sufficient without reliance on support systems are absolutely noble goals for an individual to hold themselves to.

TIL some people actually think that extensive market regulation and government intervention is a good thing. TIL some people truly are retarded.

like that has anything to do with it.

>And Obama more than doubled.

Source. Protip; there isn't one, cause you're wrong idiot.

>traditional lifestyle
the US has always been filled with immigrants so no, there is no pure tradition
>I want them to be able to live that way
what about people away from the US? you don't want them to conserve their own lifestyle? guess what, democrats and republicans have fucked millions of people with their wars, their oil rigs, highway projects, etc.
>Liberals want to change society to the point that people aren't allowed to have the freedom to do what the fuck they want
interpassivity: they don't want to change society, but parts of it. in my opinion this is stupid.
>people should be able to refuse to make a gay wedding cake
i don't think that's important, US liberal politics are stupid and the only thing they do is take your attention out of the REAL troubles
>A liberal would be calling for prosecution
yeah, that's true, because the US is a fucking fascist country and all of you think you live in the "Land of the free". companies, inteligence agencies, the government, they know everything about you, and in any time, they can consider that you are a nuisance and then fucking take you out to the desert and kill you. i don't think being prosecuted for not doing a faggot cake is worse than your state has been doing for like 60 years now.

>weather you like it or not
>like it
>not
>weather

Hillary is a notorious moderate, she started her career as a Republican and is part explicitly moderate political groups that work more closely with Republicans than some Democrats.

Obama was also clearly a moderate, his main work in office was restoring the status quo after Republicans destroyed the economy.

welcome to Anti-intellectualism. The Right in the US has never been big on education, Public education at least. If you're rich enough to afford fancy schooling then thats all well and good.

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Hmm that's funny

No shit. But that deregulation started under clinton. There really isn't much difference between the democrats and republicans economically. You might be slightly brainwashed if you think the democratic establishment is left wing (Outside of a few trivial social issues).

English isn't your language is it?

I've lost count of the number of arguments I've won against conservatives. You can't give them facts, they just put their fingers in their ears and go la la la. Their position is so weak and fragile that a gentle breeze can blow it over, which matches their equally weak egos. Which is why they cling to their ideology as if they have nothing else in the world. When they start calling you names, that's when you know you've won the argument (example: every conservative in this thread).

I think that happened when i fucked your mother

It prevented world-shaking economic collapses for 70 years, and then Republicans deleted those laws out of pure greed and the markets collapsed again.

Your black-and-white economic fundamentalism is the most retarded, damaging ignorance our nation suffers.

>Deficits happen during republican administration

Republicans: "That's not our fault! You can't blame us for the world economy taking a downturn!"

>Many lesser deficits happen under democrats

Republicans; "Haha! Democrats are so inept!"

Rightists confirmed hypocrites, retards, or both.

>Who are almost all conservatives.
Thats the same as saying almost every muslim is a terrorist because most terrorists are muslims.
>Yes, very serious. Conservatives are always attacking the school budget.
Over here conservative mainly attack the refugee-budget and and the welfare/unemployment-money-budget.

like you're worthy of an argument. no originality with you kid.

Or not...?

I gave up being a Republican when I realized that the only thing that trickled down was interest payments on the tax revenue shortage the tax reductions created.

Thats not an argument. Look at the polls in Ohio. Trump will be our next president. And what i want to ask you is how are you gonna feel about that come 2017?

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Considering illiterate people like you are allowed to vote, he may have a chance, though not a great one.

implying this is true. a thread of stale meme's.

Yes, this is true. The science behind the origin of life is called Abiogenesis. It is a very incomplete model, but we do know some things. We know proteins and acids began to self-replicate, leading to the early precursor of DNA. We know very specific conditions for this had to be met. But there is indeed still a lot we don't know about it. However, you seem to be confusing Abiogenesis with Evolution. Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life, rather it explains the diversity of species. Evolution is one of the most complete models we have...we know more about Evolution than we do about Gravity.

I'm glad your personal experiences mean so much, especially when you're trying to prove a point on an anonymous board.
But keep posting; a broken clock is right twice a day.

>started under Clinton
no, it started under Reagan, you idiot

You just want to blame Clinton for everything, you haven't even bothered researching shit

bruh whatever "socialism" you have ends in people eating sawdust bread. Fuck off and stay on the other side of our big beautiful wall. #MAGA

That's bullshit, the lefts on the downslope and rightly so it doesn't have answers to questions it created itself.

got any successful examples?

I don't give a shit what conservatives do in your country. In mine its not a matter of prejudiced debate as to high percentage of religious conservatives. Its a very well known voting block that we like to call Evangelical Christians. They almost all unilaterally vote right because the left continually opens up civil liberties for groups the Christians find morally offensive.

This is a political fact in my country. Deal with it.

Sorry my facts are time tested and true. Reality usually has a liberal bias so if it's originality you're looking to argue against, I don't know what to tell you.

Dumbass i never blamed the democrats for that. But if you think the democrats and republicans are any different when it comes to economics. You are simply unaware of what is actually happening.

>US dept. of labor is a meme

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Quads has spoken.

Athens

> buying into partisan political support of any type

Still we don't know much about evolution and there are different theories about the origin of homo sapiens, so we can't speak about facts.

There is no trying here, my point has been proven.

>FUCKING REAGAN
God DAMN that fucking man. Every fucking conservative in the country thinks the man is Jesus because he lowered fucking taxes.

He also de-regulated the banks because they had Totally learned their lessons from the great depression. Right? That senile old man is the one responsible for ruining my fucking country.

I'd vote republican just to keep refugees and illegals out. Do we want to become France or Germany

sure kid

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arguments you think you won.
fixed it for you sparky.

Claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

>I can't into 3rd grade spelling
>please listen to the basis of my argument

Isn't there some Natural Light somewhere that needs drinking? Run along now.

see what I mean? He'd get confused if he used more than two words. If only his parents knew the importance of public education then we might not be in this fucking mess.

I'm a retard, the post.

So if Reagan and Clinton are pretty much the same. Why are you defending the democrats? I mean as far as I'm concerned the democrats are on the right wing of politics. They just say they are liberals and people like you believe them.

This...isn't really true. I'm not sure where you're getting your information but the facts and evidence supporting Evolution are well documented.

He was literally SENILE while in office.

He was a hollow puppet for his corporate handlers, they even stood over his shoulder and prompted him during speeches.
>the ideal Republican

funny, most if no all Catholics vote democrat.

15 or 16-ish kind of.

sure kid. you found something you believe.
I'm so happy for you.

He actually raised taxes.

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This is completely fucking false.

retard implying.

>Thinks conservative views or liberal views is a party
If your liberal then your're liberal. If your conservative then your're conservative. If your're a socialist then your you guessed it a socialist. That's your point of view not your party.

the Clintons are economic conservatives but social liberals, making them essentially moderates, which is better than extremism any day. Maybe they're not visionaries, but they are good for the country.

Yes, I think I did win them, and I also actually did win them. Now you're just pointing out the obvious...

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Reagan's 1981 cut in the top regular tax rate on unearned income reduced the maximum capital gains rate to only 20% – its lowest level since the Hoover administration.[13}
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics

LOL "successful"

No they aren't. I swear some people really don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

Never got in, liberals don't understand what "shall not be infringed" means and can't run an affordable economy while conservatives are more likely to deny climate change and think God belongs in the whitehouse. That being said, I'm voting Trump to watch both get triggered.

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Belief is useless. You either know something or you don't. Most people believe things without actually knowing anything about them. I am the opposite.

Lol i didn't spell anything wrong in that post. You have no argument and you won't answer a simple question. I just want to know how butthurt you think you are gonna be once trump is president.

How are they not?

I guess I'll just have to listen to the facts and ignore your opinion

Name Hilary's moderate views. Go.....

more successful than American health care

and cheaper too

Its how republicans always vote for canidates. They can't actually judge his polices or shit like that because they lack the fundamental knowledge to understand it.

They instead pick a candidate that is the best at manipulating their emotions so they feel some sort of Bond with him.
>Reagan
>Bush
>Trump
They're all cut from the same cloth.
>He's just as dumb as me!

He raised taxes at the end of the 80s look it up. I think it really dispelles the mythos surrounding Reagan.

Those truly are the worst attributes of both parties/ideologies.

Politics
Poly-Many
Ticks-Blood Sucking Insects

it was better then than it is now kid.

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I'm from Germany

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what ever kid, you lost. deal with it.

He had higher tax income. He didn't raise taxes, he cut taxes, companies invested, economy grew and more $$$ made so more tax income from less % because more wealth was created

like Clinton was

When liberals became "the man"

If you blindly subscribe to liberal ideology or conservative ideology as if it were a binary choice, then you have no place in having a political opinion.

fuck you fags im voting for Hitler

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sure kid

Hillary was against gay marriage for years. Bill expanded the war on drugs. I hated the clintons even back when i was a liberal, because they simply aren't liberals. If you really have principles you shouldn't support the clintons.

Funny, you must not truly understand the current state of U.S. Politics then. Your statement would have been true 8 years ago.

>sure kid
Your debate style is kinda one note dude.

What's wrong with liberalism? You don't like people getting to do what they feel like?

I come from a largely Catholic area, and guess what? The majority of people are very conservative and vote republican. Don't make random claims if you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

You do know your referring to the budget right? You do know the budget doesn't not equal how conservative or liberal they are right? You also understand the house of representatives passes budgets right ? You know it was led by Newt Gingrich and he is a republican right? And that the president doesn't directly have anything to do with the budget right?

Yeah this is true politics is much more complicated than that. But Americans like to narrow things down to 2 choices. Chevy or Ford, Trump or hillary, blue team, red team.

He didn't say Libertarianism, he said Liberalism.

They were never my choice, I was proud to help Obama beat her. I'll probably vote 3rd party, as I don't live in a swing district of a swing state, but I still think she's way better than Trump.

and you're gonna stay there with the muds

Liberals want to tell people what to all the time. They are hardly liberals anymore.

>2016
>Not being edgy libertarian

For shame user.

you are fedorable. you know that.

>your're
>twice

what the fuck am i reading

also, ideas don't match to a party/group, the latter matches to a former

kek is among us

where's Obama?

There with the name calling. No other arguments come to mind huh?

Try sitting on a waiting list for 10 days after having a heart attack. That's European health care.

sure kid.

>libertarian
you SAY that, but then you turn around and gobble Republican cock when it actually matters.

Even the Republicans don't respect you because they know they own you and you don't have the balls to stand up to them.

It's a defense mechanism when your core argument isn't very strong. By denigrating your opponent by calling him kid, you break him down in your own mind, which masks your own insecurities and your already-weak-to-begin-with argument.

Now is a good time to vote 3rd party. I think this is the first election in which people have been talking seriously about people like jill stein and gary johnson. I think if bernie ran 3rd party he get lots of votes.

only a tard would think I'm debating.

Agreed

That's a myth, in Canada not only is the "long lines" thing a myth created by the Private insurance companies themselves, spreading it to faux news where politicians spit it out, to change public opinion, creating literal autism, but most of those myths are made by false stats from biased sources paid off from those very companies themselves. Enjoy life with less because you think it's realistic.

Arguably the most corrupt person to ever run for president is better than a business man who is, in reality, a moderate who will end up compromising on most issues? Okay......

I don't like Trump but is he really supposed to look like the chimp ?

Compromise? You mean flip flop.

sure kid.

Left is only solution, fuck you op and fuck all right faggots

Bill Maher made a joke against him saying he looked like that ape, trump sued him for 5 million dollars. He's the real SJW

Anecdotal. And for every example of a deficiency you point out for the European healthcare system, I can point out a hundred for the American. Try dying after having a heart attack, or going into bankruptcy, because you can't afford healthcare at all.

no comprehension. you wonder why I'm not arguing.

Source?

You actually understand.
When you see the political compass threads they are overwhelming liberal ideas.

Huh, oh i am registered as a republican. I think you can get a lot done when you work within the establishment. At least the Republicans give us a platform and allow space for opposing veiws.

>President has no influence over his party
Bush seemed to have a pretty devastating effect.

Being commander-in-chief can be more costly than any amount of legislation. Clinton and Obama were relatively responsible, Republicans just want endless conflict so they can launder money to their private military donors/partners.

OK I can tell you that you are 100% full of it. In Canada they tell you when and where you can have a procedure done. You miss you're appointment, back to the end of the queue. Most things require a decent wait and in many cases depending where you live a significant drive or even flight. Also enjoy 15-17% sales tax

I agree with the party view but that being said the left is being very anti American right now.

Don't diss bush fagot

Actually this.
I consider myself as far right as a lefty can possibly be, but at the end of the day, I lean more left than right.
I'm pro gun control, I'm pro universal healthcare. I don't give two shits about Christianity and why personal believe should affect national politics.
It's sad that the US only has these two groups: Left or right. Because when you count yourself part of one group, you are lumped together with so many people that you have so few opinions in common with.
Americans should step up and differentiate themselves.

Is the guy on the right thinking of all the books he's burned?

I don't really trust the democrats or the republicans, but it's always the republicans that play dirty, with voting district rezoning and sketchy stuff like that. They're the biggest blatant scum bags around, and all their family values bullshit is pure hypocrisy and pandering to an easily manipulated, undereducated voter base.

This

dat strawman doe

>a platform
so everyone can see how thoroughly they ignore you.

great, we know, now stop being a pussy and stand up for your own party

Did you just say Obama was relatively responsible? You are trolling right?

>responsible
>10 trillion in new debt
Pick one

KEK

I'm not wondering anything, I know exactly why you're shitting up the conversation with your banal comments.

Says someone who had a candidate win because of the "easily manipulated, and undereducated" inner cities.

Nope, just need to tie profit and wages.

>bush tax cuts led to deficits
Has nothing to do with spending right? Keep increasing money spent year over year, blame bush for a few tax cuts that have been overturned years ago.

You gotta pick a team though. Red team or Blue team. Even if they are fucking awful and don't care about or have any real ideas or vaules. Plus if they win I'm on the winning team, and no one wants to be a loser, This is America.

funny that's not obammy

Grew out of Liberalism? One of of the very founding principles of the US of A? The notion that man is free and should not be placed under the yoke of tyranny?

Yeah sure, I grew out of that years ago.

I believe that we need a strong leader to tell us what to do. I believe that democracy is for the ancient greeks and that we should round up those questioning authority and shoot them in their smart-ass liberal faces. I believe that we need to shut down any and all places of higher education; they are nothing more than liberal propaganda centers. All students should be forced into forced labour or shot. All academia should be focused on weapons research and methods of crowd control. All media outlets should be state owned and controlled. Any and all journalistic activities questioning the government needs to be shut down.

To crush any liberal thinking we need to also curtail citizen's activities. Curfews are fo course a given; only citizens with legitimate business should need to be out on the streets after nightfall. We also need to limit the amount of liberal ideas that can spread through the internet so we need to block that as well. Unlicensed public gatherings of more than 4 persons will be broken up. Repeat offenders will be removed from their houses and shot in the back of their necks.

We need to round up any left thinking writers and shoot them in the face

We need to round up anyone who believes in equality and shoot them in the face

We need to round up anyone questioning our leaders and shoot them in the face

We need ot round up anyone questioning the status quo and shoot them in the face.

No more progression. No more development. No more coddled left wing idealism regarding individual civil rights or trade unionism.

This is the only way America can survive the coming paradigm shift.

Glad to see my thread is still going strong

Liberals BTFO

modern "liberalism" you fucking idiot.

There are other parties, just don't plan on winning anything major for a while

He Bombed the brown ppl, thats why he was such a good president. We need to bomb them to freedom. Amirite guise??

Alright faggot we can have more conservatism without turning into a literal dystopian fascist autocracy

what is "modern "liberalism"" then?

He doesn't even know.

Nice try. You just copied the liberal playbook

What a fucking strawman.

The only ones being BTFO are butthurt conservatives.

>how old were you

Literally what you just described