What will you do after the inevitable victory of Hillary Clinton?

and you know this how?

What about her platform do you guys like the most?

i got u user
youtu.be/HoBL7fqOVcQ
Vascular dimensia

do a 360 and walk to another country

>shills gotta shill

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wake up from the horrible nightmare.

Buy some beer and now shit is gonna change for 4 years. Pay more taxes, listen to the career politicians take a sigh as they're jobs are now locked for the remainder of their careers, wonder who else can pay to speak to our diplomats, know that all politicians are above the law - but the laws they pass only apply to us commoners, by an AR before they become banned come mid-Jan, watch AFrican American unemployment continue to climb, with unrestricted immigration increase and the PROPORTIONAL radical islamic violence increase.... but besides that, have a beer...

Celebrate, since that orange fucker didn't make it to be president

Isn't Trump older? Also, don't women live longer than men?

>poor
>Trump supporter

Err, user, you do realize how fucking backwards that is, right? The poor people are usually the ones that want more government in their lives, not less.

Prepare for America to dissolve into Germany. Witness hundreds of women and children get rapped by refugees. Later kill myself as the American dream falls into Sharia Law oppression.

Ummmm.... poor people want LESS government and more SOCIAL support...

hows she gonna win? whos votin' for her? you?

Laugh, as she inevitably dies of illness.......

Somehow I'm not convinced.

Nobody wants MORE government. That is simply rediculous....

Kekekekekekekekekekeke OP is so scared right now. Omg I am going to cum, hands free, when Donny J gets the Oval Office and the libcucks off themselves in record numbers

based on some quick "research" it appears that politifact has an extreme liberal bias, so of course it has these results. Also, Hillary Clinton is a compulsive liar so its a dead giveaway when she gets such a low score.

1) Laugh at the Trumpfags
2) Do anything possible to get a better Democrat elected.

This election should be a wake up call to everyone.

Just roll over and take it like the last 8 years...

I'd like some more NASA please

social support is government intervention in their lives, therefore "more"

Apologies... I should cavet that... unless you're a career politician...

Actually they really don't. They've been accused of both conservative and liberal bias

Or a defense contractor

Rejoice. At least we were on the second darkest timeline instead of the first.

that just means you shouldn't trust "them" at all or regard their "facts" as truth

No, social programs are developed locally. Local civil leaders implement local social programs.
You mean more governance.
Federal Government - bad
State Government - good
You and I can effect local state government. We can't do shit to Federal Government and they're the ones getting larger!

everything that I love about America is thanks to "Government" Thank you for protecting me government, thank you for making sure I can't be taken advantage of or robbed, Thank you for not forcing me to work more than 40 hours a week. Thank you for establishing a minimum wage. thank you for providing me with roads and traffic signals, and sidewalks, and firemen, and policemen. I appreciate you, and I will work to strengthen you.

All this could be done at the State level.
You point is???

Don't even try. You simply cannot convince anyone that's in this "conservative" bubble of anything that doesn't fit with their agenda/narrative. Least of all with facts...just look at the relationship the right has with climate change.

>there's a reason Trump is the candidate of the poorly educated

Nothing I'm Canadian

Just like the anit-vaxxers don't trust the CDC. What a stupid fucking argument, but that's what you get when you are poorly educated.

Go on with my sad life knowing the world just got a great deal worse, but not as bad as it would have with the other guy.

than it would have. States competing for corporations by lifting regulations at the expense of people and the environment. It's called oversight. State Governments are not good enough on their own.

1: what difference does it make?

2: who gives a fuck.

agreed, i generalized "social support" as welfare, which is federally operated. i did not regard local assistance, my bad.

also the argument for "smaller government" usually is people wanting "less regulations" not a shift of power to the states.

I agree, partially, but I think the privatization of space travel would be more beneficial in the long run, and able to accomplish more without being dependent on election cycles.

Be happy cause no trump
>imma girl by the way
>down with the patriarchy

Can you please explain why you put "research" in quotes?

i don't have the willpower in me to even refute this stupid post

because it's ironic research

nice cop out, retard. sit down.

willy nilly google searches and brief examinations of sites, not founded or sourced at all. "research"

>don't women live longer than men?
Generally, but she has a lifetime of shit karma to answer for.

I definitely think a good combo of both would be good. The private sector will make getting to space easier and cheaper, and NASA will be able to spend more money on research, which will in turn benefit the private sector.

Is it legal for Hilary to nominate Chelsea as VP? The parody porn would spit hot fire.

It is agreed.

Have a shit ton of half black babies and collect welfare. Start smoking crack, i hear its a lot of fun.

Continue to prepare for the inevitable race war

>parody porn
You mean r34?

I want some crack as well, it's only fair.

was wondering where the CTR shills were
your failing at your job criminals

don't we all? Or were you planning to do us a favor and shoot yourself in your fat, retarded face?

are shill and cuck the only words you fucking idiots know? It's tiresome.

aww, poor baby, you didn't get what you wanted so life is a nightmare now. You got a rough future ahead of you, kid.

Wait for the recount

I'd recommend going back to school to learn how to write proper English sentences. English is the official language in 'Murica, is it not?

Pray someone shoots her so her VP can do the job.

With Trump, I'm just hoping he steps on a landmine while ingesting cyanide and radioactive isotopes of Burger King.

Proper grammar is frowned upon in Cred Forums

>Pray someone shoots her so her VP can do the job.
v&

Move to New Zealand

its shill clock already? damn im late for dinner
anyway you faggots realize this bullshit blanket propaganda thing you got going on is only annoying people and not actually accomplishing anything right?
shes still losing polls
hell trumo just polled ahead in maine
fucking maine

To be fair, I'll do this if trump wins to...

So I'm just loving to New Zealand anyway.

Look forward to not much really changing over the next 4-8 years. She'll probably die in office and her VP will take over and do nothing noteworthy in his time.

Switzerland best choice if you can stand cold.

Didn't her IT "specialist" just get outed on reddit

I shall laugh at the stupidity of the MuriKKKan electorate. You will get the government that you rightly deserve. You have been forcing your fake democracy on the rest of the world for three generation now and finally you will have it shoved up your own asses where it belongs.

PARTY!!!
CELABRATE!!!

Why not? What is so fundamentally different about state government vs federal government? Is it that the bureaucrat is just that much farther away and out of touch with the people he is supposed to be governing?

If you say the federal government has more money than you're dumb.

What are you implying?

Find you and kill you
Huh? If you turn around 360 degrees you're just walking back to the same spot

Yeah! He should have said "uneducated"!

Nobody is going to do anything. It will be business as usual all the way around.

Seriously. Besides Hilldog's push for anti 2A legislation and her ability to appoint library justices to the scotus, what the fuck is she actually going to do?

Fucking nothing. That's what. And I'd argue that those things (2A and scotus appointments), which I'm against btw, are inevitable anyway. Might as well get used to it even though it will have zero positive effect.

The country was lost to elites and the politicians they've bought years ago.

Oil is so 2012.

Liberal...

Fuck this phone.

Wait an actual non retarded answer on Cred Forums? Blasphemous

I should have disguised my response behind a few "niggers" and "cuck" remarks.

Fuck.

1) Laugh at the Trumpfags
2) Go to war against corrupt Democratic party
3) Replace destroyed Democratic party with an actual left-wing party dedicated to economic democracy

FTFY - unless the left gets rid of the corruption going on in its name, the people, being left without class consciousness, will turn to fascism in the hope of returning to a better past in which they had greater economic security.

"We may set it down as a historical law: fascism was able to conquer only in those countries where the conservative labor parties prevented the proletariat from utilizing the revolutionary situation and seizing power." - Trotsky

Bad news...the reason Trump is going to win is because the US people want change, not 4 years of the same nonsense.

Rant about how the Constitution is illegitimate due to it being constructed by a slaver elite and hope to raise class consciousness for future mass action. Hasta siempre la victoria!

Yea faggot no one takes your comments seriously unless it has one "derogatory" word in it. nigger

Glorious post, comrade

shes not going to win

I will personally assasssinate her and stream it live.

pray to illuminati reptillian god to live

It doesn't fit my narrative therefore it's bias. Fuck you conservative faggots that think your shit don't stink. Even if Trump gets elected liberals/ Democrats are going to do everything they can to obstruct Trump to make him a failure. Your guy threw 53% of the country's voters under the bus by his near constant autistic attacks on Obama for 5 years. If you think that Trump's going to magically fix everything think again. Congress doesn't have a supermajority. Conservatives still don't get it. liberals and Democrats aren't going anywhere and you have to compromise with the other half of the country.

The "left", corrupt or otherwise, suffers from the same thing the "right" does.

It's called ignorance.

But then again, the people who allow themselves to be lured and confused by these asshats are just as ignorant.

I've got news for you: your ideology is fucking not going to solve the world's problems and create universal fairness and prosperity. Nothing is trickling up or down except bullshit.

Humans seem to have two conditions. Winners and losers. There will be winners (maybe you're one of the lucky few), but there's always going to be a whole lot of fucking losers.

Get used to it.

v&

What a circus this election has been. The world is laughing at your presidential candidates, America.

I hope you idiots actually vote in Trump. It'll be the best 4 years ever. Unless he gets impeached or something.

I will live the next 8 years comfortable in the fact that Trump never had his chance to start a nuclear war.

Oh except you forgot the other half of the country that's voting for Hillary. Trump has pissed so many people off that nobody is going to work with him to pass his legislation. More executive orders right? The same bullshit you criticize Obama for. Hypocrisy.

Spoken like a true bourgeois liberal. Get ready to hang with the rest of the ruling class.

>implying im not behind a million proxies and firewalls

Have fun in prison Cred Forumsro

Im willing to die if i take her with me

Understood like a typical mindless fool.

Get used to disappointment in your life.

>being so insecure with your beliefs that the only thing you can say to people that disagree with you is that they're paid off

>The ruling class

I alone can fix it.
-Donald (faggot) Trump

Let do this, but with the idea that career politicians no longer deciding the election. Let the people be heard...

Proof that the alt-right are terrorists.

You're already on a watch list, Junior.
Protip: and so is your family by association

Emigrate.

Onward to victory, comrade. Capitalism is in crisis, the time for harvest is ripe. We must save as many as we can from the bankrupt ideology of fascism

If the people would only educate themselves there would be no career politicians.

Term limits has always been built in, it just requires an electorate that isn't a bunch of drooling fucking morons.

>not killing the corruption in government
Are you a cuck faggot?

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It's a common tactic for conservatives and Republicans. They honestly have no ability to look ahead and make careful deliberate decisions. The iraq war is a perfect example. Inb4 Hillary voted. Republicans voted overwhelmingly for war compared to Democrats. Thanks for getting us into Iraq Republicans. Our dead soldiers appreciate it.

Move to Canada. Get medical heroin. OD to death

Rub it in the face of Cred Forums's retard community.

That all depends on what you're trying to infer.

As if Canada wants Trump fans.

Take back my country.

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At least we know where we stand woth Trump. He calls it like he sees it. You can say he flip flops or says politically incorrect statements, but he speaks some truths...
Hilary is corrupt as fuck. Not secrative corrupt, but poorly concealed and I'm going to break the law to conceal it corrupt.

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Find fucksticks like yourself with Hillary stickers on their cars and beat you to a bloody pulp.

No argument. I agree

It's a common tactic in politics period. I'd also argue that politicians on both the right and left have no incentive to be proactive and, in fact, have not been.

The war was a clear mistake, but I'd argue that it would have been a mistake made by Democrats had Gore or Kerry won their elections. The proof lies in how each party opposes ideas: not based on principles as you might expect, but instead on who's proposing the idea.

>the US people want change
You overlook the fact that the US people do not have a voice in national elections. You have been outbid by the transnational corporations, which allow you to vote as a palliative. If voting really changed anything, it would be illegal.

This gives me hope for SW Asia, withholding the possibility that you may be affiliated with COINTELPRO 2.0

But then people would have to take time out of their day and actually research the candidates. Much easier to just reelect the incumbent with the familiar name

USA doesn't have an official language moron. English is the primary language, but you also have Spanish in number two and so on...

Truth. That's why I said before that nothing will change. Business as usual. That is until people can no longer grill hamburgers, drink Budweiser and watch football.

Maybe that day comes. Maybe it doesnt.

Well said, comrade! It is up to us to educate the people and help them see through the capitalist lies about socialism. The people's revolution is the fulfillment of the dreams of those who fought in the bourgeois revolutions - "freedom, equality, and the universal brotherhood of humanity". Socialism is true democracy emancipated from all ruling classes in which the abundance of our civilization provides for the material necessities of all people, allowing them to self-actualize and give of themselves to the progress of humanity.

Take heart, all of you who suffer under the yoke of capitalist exploitation! This is the dawn of the new global socialist revolution! Victory to the people!

No shit?

I just wanna know what the hell the reasoning was behind going to war in Iraq. Bush always spouted WMD's, we found none. The conspiracy theorists said oil, but we get most of our oil from Canada and Mexico.

Lmao suspicions confirmed

>the other half of the country that's voting for Hillary
You mean half of the people who are going to vote, right? That's not the same thing. Most people are not going to vote, so the Reptilian Queen will be getting the majority of a minority.

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>the abundance of our civilization provides for the material necessities of all people, allowing them to self-actualize and give of themselves to the progress of humanity

Star Trek ftw

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Celebrate!

Space communism is best communism

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What if I make money with my personal computer? Am I being a class traitor?

I'd say it was based on threats and intelligence deemed credible at the time. Of course hindsight being what it is, we now know they weren't as credible as suggested. With that said, after 9/11, no president would allow themselves to be the reason another building fell or something far worse than that. Therefore, it was go baby go. Democrats would have done the same thing with Republicans calling foul on the sidelines had they held the white house.

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Can't wait for this.

English is the de facto language, if not de jure. US courts won't accept pleadings in any language other than English.

Within a capitalist society? No. Within a socialist society? There's no such thing as money. The socialist world is as fundamentally different from the capitalist world as capitalism was from feudalism. These questions presume that socialism will be the same economic substructure as our capitalist society with the addition of state control, but that is completely wrong.

And we've reached the point where we're quoting fictional fucking characters from television shows long off the air...

Nice contribution user.

Middle Eastern oil is what backs the US dollar. When Saddam Hussein tried to accept euros for Iraqi oil, he suddenly became Public Terrorist Number One.

The first duty of a revolutionary is to be educated. Obviously this means learning about all revolutionary nations, real and imagined

Yeah, in what kind of world are people inspired by art? Your reasoning is as much of a joke as your self-serving worldview, liberal scum.

Maybe Monica will get a Cabinet appointment.

Just money replaced with labor and the additon of state control.

Sounds peachy user. Where do I sign up?

>imagined
such as Marx's utopia.

>Just money replaced with labor and the additon of state control.

Again, that's wrong. Socialism is total democracy - political democracy, democratically-made decisions about production, and democracy in the workplace. Right now you should be asking yourself if you're trying to learn or trying desperately NOT to understand.

(I'm a gramsci btw ;)

So you're a revolutionary studying Star Trek and the Federation's governing policies?

That's a genuine question, not a rub.

doubt it she is behind by 26%

unless it gets rigged by the 1% bankers (the real ones who run the country) which we all know it will be

presidents are now nothing more than a figure head for people to look to instead of the real people who are in the shadows running everything

we also had a republican congress holding his feet to the fire as well as the line item veto which all presidents should have. Bill Clinton was/is a lying fucken hilbilly douche bag and his wife is even worse. Get your head out of your stupid ass

Biff Tannen for president! Yeah!

Socialism post-Marx explicitly rejects utopian thinking; you can read this for yourself in the Communist Manifesto.

Found the butthurt Bernie voter.

>There's no such thing as money.
Right. And next you're going to tell us there's no such thing as God.

if trump gets elected do we get to have sex with his women?

>Marx
>utopian society

Ayy lmao bruh do you even German Ideology?

>this is a picture of a piece of shit

Sanders' platform was social democracy, not socialism. No socialist would be happy with mere reforms of capitalism intended to keep the present power structure intact.

So you're telling me that you appreciate the art of the show or the political ideology of it?

Because if it's the former, than I'm with you. If it's the latter than you're very conflicted and you might want to reconsider your assumptions about me and your knee-jerk response.

I think what is being cited is Gene Roddenberry's world-view as expressed by his fictional characters.

lizard queen is still better than the shaved orangutan with dementia and a penchant for self agrandizement

Na, I'm more of a Ferengi connoisseur tbh. Those lobes tho

>i started correct the record to give sad, scared people a sense of false hope

So I leave my personal fate up to the choice of the democracy?

I prefer freedom user. Even if that freedom is severely handicapped and constrained under the twisted version of what this country was supposed to be.

prepare for war, because it surely is not far behind her

They're all liars. How are the Clintons worse?

Honestly the Manifesto is a terrible place to point people, it comes off as a poorly-written and zealous propaganda pamphlet (because it is). Send them to the 1st International's recorded minutes or something like 'Why Socialism?'

>people who mindlessly believe in the status quo don't need to examine their assumptions or provide explanations of their reasoning

Can't argue with that response.

>assumes an assumption has been made

Do I need to remind you of what happens when you go full retard?

>Witness hundreds of women and children get rapped by refugees.

So just throw ya hands in the aiyah, and wave em like ya jus don't cayah. And if you white wimmins wanna have sex against yo will, somebody say oh yayah!

It's a classic starting point, but you're right that there are many others, and some that might be better for the modern world. I also like Harrington's "Socialism" and everything by Richard Wolff:

youtube.com/watch?v=ysZC0JOYYWw

It would be an interesting project to develop a definitive socialist curriculum, I think.

>Bill Clinton was/is a lying fucken hilbilly douche bag
True enough. But he did leave office with a surplus that Dubya promptly spent.

Different dude, but as far as I know Star Trek is one of the only shows/movies that depicts a genuine post-scarcity society. Most others have the plot-twist that it's not really post-scarcity, there's just a super-poor class that supports the elite

Someone please explain to me why this hasn't worked up to this point.

Again. Genuine question. Also, include your criteria for success.

Two socialists walk in a room to form a 101 curriculum, three tendencies and eight drafts walk out

I may not agree with you or perhaps I do, but nonetheless I appreciate your respectful and substantive response.

>why this hasn't worked up to this point

Why what hasn't worked?

I'm increasingly convinced it's just one autist that spends 12 hours a day on Cred Forums combing for polithreads and spamming shill and cuck. There's no way the entire trump movement on Cred Forums is that cringe.

The lesser of two evils is still evil. They're like when the doctor told his patient that he had good news and bad news … the bad news is that the patient had AIDS … the good news is that the patient also had Alzheimer's.

John Adams a slaver? Ben Franklin? Can you tie your shoes without help?

There was more support on the Dem side not to go to war. There would have been significantly less chance of going to war with Iraq if we had a Dem president.

The ones that aren't that cringe don't stand out as much as the ones spamming shill and cuck

Laugh at USA for electing another retard for president

In all of the United Snakes' miserable existence it has known peace for about a dozen years.

If Trump wins letting Russia get away with murder and invasion of otherwise sovereign countries is going to be a fucking huge mistake. In hindsight, look what happened when Britain allowed Germany to initially annex territory.

I think that's based on hindsight. Remember that many dems supported the war because of 9/11 and the fear of what might happen next. I'd say how it unfolded or how long we spent there is likely to have been different, but I don't believe for a moment that Gore or Kerry would have ignored the intelligence.

Peace doesn't feed the military-industrial complex

neither of them is evil, but only Hillary is qualified. It's that fucking simple. Trump should run for Senate or Mayor of NYC. With a guy as unusual and controversial we need to see how he does in elected office.

Socialism, communism, Marxism etc.

Yup. Me too.

On the bright side a new cold war will mean a lot more space shit and cool planes

Still though not a single Republican voted against. Many Democrats although minority still voted no considering the evidence.

You mean like Bill Clinton, who launched a mini war against Iraq in Operation Desert Fox that mysteriously coincided with his impeachment proceedings?

Lol yes it will

It will have ZERO effect on me if she wins. ZERO. Just like Obama, bush, Clinton,bush, and Reagan did. My life will go on. Absolutely nothing these presidents do affects us bc we aren't rich

The voting happened the way it did because that's what the parties do: oppose each other whenever possible.

Are you seriously comparing any war Clinton was in or started with the 2003 Iraq war? There's no comparison man. We're stuck in Iraq for God knows how long now because of the initial invasion.

>but only Hillary is qualified.

How do you figure this, because she's a politician? The president oversees the executive branch. Executive. Trump has decades of executive experience running many dozens of large corporations. He's more than qualified.

And really, there are only 2 qualifications: age 35+ and natural born citizen. This office was not designed for career politicians only. It is a civilian position.

>stay woke america

I'd argue partisanship had little to do with a vote for war post 9/11. The country was much more united.

It's never been implemented. The revolutionary transition to socialism requires advanced post-industrial historical conditions. Socialists in, for example, Russia were not able to implement socialism within a feudal society with no experience of or capacity for industrial production much less democracy, so what they ended up with was a bourgeois revolution to create state capitalism with the (ostensible) goal of creating the proletariat class for a future revolution to true socialism.

Note that this explanation changes exactly zero definitions involved in socialism, as defined here

To my best understanding, Marx's original idea was that it would end up being something of a democracy, where the country is run by the common man, for the common man. The snag was that the leadership set up after the revolutions always ended up as dictators that never stepped down from power, and gave no shits about the workers

To tell you the truth, what I've been seeing here seems to be a bunch of offshore CTR shills attempting to mimic Trumpanzee bluster under the misconception that all US political discussions use that same tone.

dude, trump has shown that he has no idea how any of this stuff works, not even the fundamentals. I'm sorry, but he's not ready.

Sorry, united and behind Bush 43 both dems and rep

>We're stuck in Iraq for God knows how long now because of the initial invasion.

And Clinton voted for it. But we can blame Bush I guess. But we can't blame Bush for the Obama/Clinton decision to pull out of Iraq early in 2012 to score political points before an election, resulting in a power vacuum that ISIS filled.

masturbate furiously.

FACEPALMING ftw

Government is government, whether it is local or state or national... they are just ways we pay for collectively-used stuff, and rules we agree to abide by.

I'm not sure you understand how government works...

>jews
>poor
user I got bad news for your interpretation of reality, perhaps adjust your scope.

Jeb Bush was the only sensible candidate and still IS the only sensible candidate. He has a hell of a chance and that's where my vote is going. So you should change this thread to "What will you do after the inevitable victory of Jeb Bush"

That's a dangerously stupid way to look at things. If Clinton wins, she's going to be able to fill multiple SCOTUS seats, which are lifetime appointments. Look for her to fill them with young activist judges who will go ahead with social experimentation for the next half a century. This nonsense about dudes in dresses having the "right" to shit and shower in the same locker room as your daughter will be child's play compared to what's coming.

I think partisanship saw a brief reduction, but political animals don't change their stripes often or for too long. Remember that elections take place every 2 years and that's important when it comes to securing and keeping control.

We might forget this during certain times, but they never do.

What else were we supposed to do? Annex the country because they can't govern themselves?

Well Bush kinda set the framework for the pullout but yes Obama is responsible for actually leaving. Think back to the 2008 election. The country was witnessing the massive fuckup that was the Iraq war on TV everyday. Civil war had broke out under Bush and Obama was under huge pressure by the voters to pull out of Iraq now. When Obama was elected the people expected us to gtfo out of iraq quickly and decisively. What ended up happening is that it wasn't so black and white.

>inevitable victory of Hillary Clinton
>totally unpersonable
>even dems know she stole the election
>her supporters trust her less than trump
>dying
>legitimately trying to defame pepe
>meme game is weak as shit
>no appeal to the young audience that isn't extreme left

yeah... totally going to win

Maintain a military presence until the country is able to defend itself. Almost as soon as we left, their military was throwing down their weapons and running away from ISIS. Exactly the same as what South Vietnam did when we left. We are shit at training others to fight.

>no appeal to the young audience that isn't extreme left

The left fucking despises her. Only dinner-party, center-right liberals over the age of 50 actually support her.

What will you do for work when CTR isn't paying anymore?

So what you're saying is that it can only work is if a first-world nation adopts it?

What happens to the people who reject it?

Even Trump went on record back then and said that we need to gtfo of Iraq now. Like just pack shit up and leave. I think people have forgotten the mood of the country towards the war. It was starting to become another Vietnam.

Bathrooms have no reason to be segregated to begin with, women have stalls and men have urinals. The only people exposed are dudes, I don't know why women are worried about their privacy

Formative stages of any future dominant economic mode have kinks for decades, sometimes centuries. Capitalist ventures were practiced on small scales in the Poland-Lithuania Commonwealth, Saxony, and Venice. They all failed, but later capitalists learned from their mistakes and were able to better implement their new economic system until it completely supplanted European feudalism. There is heavy intentional and unintentional resistance to socialist governments and societies of all leanings from capitalist nations and economies. This manifests itself in direct action like coups (Guatemala, Iran, Cuba) to economic pressures like propaganda (advertisements, radio broadcasts, etc). Socialist values are already present in our economic systems, it's just that socialism itself has not yet become dominant.

Basically there was no planning on how to leave. Officials in the Bush administration have admitted to it. Obama had to come in and figure out how to get not only the us back on track but Iraq.

The problem is that not everyone can run things, even in a true democracy. There's always a hierarchy in play. Common man becomes less common when he nears the top and that power tends to corrupt.

>What happens to the people who reject it?

That depends what you mean. Are you going to pick up a gun and start shooting at revolutionaries? What will happen to those who reject it is the same as what will happen to the American colonists who wanted to stay loyal to the British Empire. Generally nothing as long as they're willing to give the new society a chance and accept historical inevitability.

I really don't think they would have been able to defend themselves, no matter how long we stayed. ISIS was already forming from the people who were pissed at the US being there, and even if we stayed to train more people the opposition would've grown too

She's completely insincere. Just read some of her tweets. She's just pandering. She's saying what people want to here. Liberals are desperate to think they are either victims (blacks/latinos) or they are the good guys (self-hating and apologizing whites). Her tweets are all about how she is love and Trump is hate. Trump is racist. Trump is literally hilter. Vote for me, I love children. Trump hates children. Vote for me, a cop shot a black guy. Must keep race war alive. She's a phony. Ever seen house of cards? Spacey is all smiles, thumbs up, and positivity in front of the mic, and as soon as he's in the back room he's scheming for power. That's her. She's a fake. A phoney.

Church.

when i say extreme left i mean the PC retards running around pretending to know what life is

We're going into civil war if the 2 parties keep moving further away from center.

Yeah, that's not the extreme left.

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They are both evil because they both better themselves at the expense of society. Fearless Leader is proud to have bribed every governmental official in his way and the Reptilian Queen is proud to have received two billion dollars from influence-peddling. Her involvement in the creation of ISIS and in the wanton slaughter of Syrian children is just a bonus.

I am unaware of an objective standard that qualifies someone for political office. If there were such a thing, the politicians would do everything in their power to marginalize it. Unless you have such an objective standard, you have no business telling us one sociopathic candidate or another is qualified for the job.

There is an objective standard for sociopathy. Both Fearless Leader and the Reptilian Queen satisfy its requirements.

>going into civil war

Doubt that very much. For the vast majority, politics is just something they care intensely about once every 4 years. It's a sporting event, and they are cheering for their team, then they don't give a shit. No one's going to pick up a gun and head off to war because the other team won.

interesting!

CTR wont exist if she wins, she'll have no need for you anymore OP

Trump LOVES children. Especially 13 year old children.

what would you call it?

when exactly did she break the law?
seem to recall the FBI saying she's never even come close to breaking the law.
>Trump calls it like he sees it
Enjoy that used car, user.

new waifu

American center-right liberalism

edgelord.

Gawd she is gross.

well actually, with a catalyst *cough cough* race wars *cough cough* its pretty feasible

surely you've noticed that shits been getting intense for the last few years.

>No one's going to pick up a gun
that's already started. remember when ppl started shooting rando cops?

>What will you do after the inevitable victory of Hillary Clinton?

Cry.

That's one way of rejecting it is suppose. But I think you'll find that just like anything else, there will be severe cracks in Socialism even if all the pieces fall together like you're suggesting they should. I also think people will reject it just as there are those that reject current forms of government. The end result is unlikely to be the roses picture that many have painted for me over the years.

It depends on how stable the system is. Our system in the US, even if a corrupt asshole gets elected president, there's not much chance that every piece of government will go along with them. Sure presidents and legislatures and judges might suck sometimes, but they've never had the capacity to destroy everything

When do you think is the last time she had a dick in her mouth. I'm saying 1991.

Join the protests against her due to her obviously stealing the election.

Seriously, nothing at all is pointing towards her winning, she is in freefall.

maybe i'm being an autist here but that doesn't make any sense

A bunch of hippy wannabe jack-offs

hey look, another delusional loon

> PolitiFact, an independent record-correcting website voting for Hillary, has graded more than...

you think wiley ole bill's stickin his dick in that musty old clap trap?

I just don't think you understand that it takes a whole hell of a lot to get to the point where 2 armies of Americans are engaged in warfare against each other, and getting mad at people on facebook over political posts isn't it.

You'll have to tell me what YOU think socialism is supposed to look like. Socialism is a radically different new world with a completely different social organization in which old attitudes and beliefs no longer make sense. Do you see a whole lot of pro-aristocracy feudalists running around demanding that the land be returned to hereditary nobles? Is this causing a big problem for capitalist society?

Corruption exists at all levels and it will continue to do so as long as human beings continue to make self preservation their default guiding principle. Without intervention from evolution, we're gonna keep being the racist, war-like selfish pricks we've always been.

HILLARY FOR PRISON ! ! !
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>Lets Make It Happen!

She won't win. She's barely got any energy, she's a fucking criminal. The FBI (even though Comey decided to recommend no charges be made against her [because he's a FUCKING IDIOT]) showcased her crimes to the world and yet she's still running.... technically, she's automatically disqualified to run for president. Trump all the way. I've always been on the Trump Train since day one.

cheer in the fucking street

Fuck, ain't that the truth

keep dreaming faggot

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good for you. you've been consistently retarded, so at least you've got that going for you.

hide the scars and fade away the shake-up

if we end the death tax, like trump wants, this will be inevitable.

death tax should be like 80% and if you think it should be removed you're a moron.

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I will, cunt. And when the day comes to pass that Donald Trump becomes the president, I'll cheer from wherever I am.

Well, as I understand it it is simply community ownership of the means of production.

But thats obviously oversimplified.

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Damn, it sucks that people have painted such rosy pictures for you about socialism. Any socialist worth there salt would accept that any new economic system would have failings, and it would be a socialist's duty to try to look at them objectively. Many 'socialists' act in a dogmatic and idealistic way that can be extremely off-putting; if they did any research into Marxism they would learn that his theories are the antithesis, the death knells of idealism. Marx even said of a dogmatic group of socialists operating in France, "if that's Marxism, I'm not a Marxist." {paraphrase} Actually socialism is all about evaluating evidence in an objective and scientific manner (or as close to scientific objectivity you can get). Marx actually based his entire theory on a rejection of idealism, and instead tried to look at something he saw as more tangible and real. (humans and the relationship between their environments, as shown by labor and its divisions over history). He tried to use this to formulate a model to predict future economic modes. Contrary to opinion, you'll find that a lot of his theories have been expanded upon and some have even been rejected or revised as new evidence has presented itself. It's really quite fascinating, imo.

The next two presidents of the USA in one picture

you're thikning maybe 2020? this is trump's last chance and he blew it.

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bring it cucks

they're going to have such beautiful children

Retarded, eh? At least I'm not going to vote for the criminal cunt or the triggered baboon (Gary Johnson) who doesn't represent me or Libertarianism.

inb4 the 'dae there their they're' grammar faggots

Oh gee, i wonder how unbiased this is and how much the lies mattered.

What, did trump lie about what sandwich he ate that morning and they put it in as a data point?

Lol, from a Hillary source.....

Fight against her evil in the civil war.

why'd you leave the trips upon the table?

>Socialism is a radically different new world with a completely different social organization

socialism literally only works on paper. for it to be successful in practice and not survive off the debt of other countries (i.e. germany) it requires an omnipotent government and that basically has to tell you how and where to spend your money and how much of it you can spend.

for this reason, it has historically failed time and time again... it has nothing to do with society or social organization. its all about numbers, and the numbers don't fucking work

Im so tred of this thread just an hero OP

Do tha Hillary Shuffle and Now Dropped to the Flooooo

>Not gonna happen
>Kebab removed
>End of story
>I crii erry tiem