Vapor bread

this

Hardware:
iJoy Lux 215
24mm Goon

Never mixed

I like fruity flavors. Vamping on bombsicle right bow with is a red, white and blue popsicle.

Holy shit, you don't actually think that anything you put in your lungs other than air is going to leave zero effects, just cos it isn't a cigarette? Enjoy your delusions of grandeur while looking like a fucktard lol

gr8 b8 brah

Do you live in a bubble with a closed air filtration system?

Because if you don't you're putting as much shit into your lungs as I am, and you seemed to turn out alright, except for your brain damage, but I'm sure that's not due to breathing.

why do you take the obvious b8

anyone knows how i can make my own PG and VG ? would reallly appreciate

Because I'm bored, and believe it or not, people are actually this retarded and willing to believe anything the media tells them.

Why can't you just buy it?

Europe reporting in, still legal here!
My gear left to right :

-Reuleaux DNA200/Avocado 24

-Presa TC100W/kayfun v5

-istick pico / serpent mini

Mixing my own juice at 85/25 VG/PG with 6mg

i really like creating my own stuff so i got into mixing now i just want to know how to make my own base

what is the american trend with this "centurycrime"? is there any revision or so ? im ger and just curious how it developes

AHAHAHAHA oh fuck my and my aching balls, you DO have some sort of hipster immunity fantasy, I thought you all couldn't be that naive lol I mean if you just owned it and said, yeah sure, so what then no big deal but you actually think you're completely clean! You're like the feminist vegans of smoking HAHAHAHAHAHA

>i really like creating my own stuff so i got into mixing now i just want to know how to make my own base

Makes sense, I've never heard of making VG or PG, but I'm guessing creating pure safe stuff is pretty expensive in the equipment. Don't quote me on it though, have no idea.

>what is the american trend with this "centurycrime"? is there any revision or so ? im ger and just curious how it developes

What do you mean?

No, I know anything you insert into your body will have some adverse effect. But vaping doesn't have effects that are worse than inhaling pollution while walking a busy street, or eating junk food. Smoking is 10000 times more harmful. But don't listen to me, I've just read peer reviewed studies. Obviously the media and Marlboro funded researchers know better.

Oh wow, and now with the big tobacco conspiracy theories, you're a one stop shop of retardation, ain't ya? What makes you think they don't have just as much financial stake in anything you morons want to wrap your lips around and suck on? They'll be co-opting your gay porn right out from under you next lol

kys

>Multi billion dollar monopolies losing money to independent shops.
>they do nothing of course, out of the goodness of their hearts.

I R SMERT! LEL

Just go be retarded elsewhere and let the adults talk about the hobby they life.

Aaaaaand it's broken from it tipping

I don't vape anymore but I used a sig120 with a mutation x v2. Vaping is fun and all but legit just quit its a waste of money.

>Makes sense, I've never heard of making VG or PG, but I'm guessing creating pure safe stuff is pretty expensive in the equipment. Don't quote me on it though, have no idea.

probably. but i'm just curious since i cannot find any ingredient list on that and i'm planning to make a permit to buy toxic substances like nicotin

>What do you mean?

I meant if there's some revision for making vape legal again in US

i just can tell that i've smoked like 60 cigarettes before i got into vape and am feeling much better now, even vaping sub ohm

thread: what regulated box mod can you recommend ?

That's why I won't let it tip. Gotta protect your valuables.

except he is right.

>i cannot find any ingredient list
They're only 1 molecule each, so there's no ingredients. It's like looking for an ingredient list for water, it's just h2o. You gotta extract it or synthesize it I reckon, but you don't just "mix it together"

>I meant if there's some revision for making vape legal again in US

I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure Big Tobacco and Big Pharma will fight it like the plague. And our politicians are bought by corporations so we're kinda fucked if you don't fight it.

>what regulated box mod can you recommend ?

What's your budget?

Stop being a faggot.

>toxic substances like nicotine
>nicotine
>toxic

Da fuq are they teaching you in middle school these days?

/thread

Kill yourself. Oh wait, nevermind, you're already on it. All to protect your "masculinity" because you're insecure.

Nicotine is toxic in high enough concentration. Even at 100mg/ml it can be dangerous. 1000mg/ml and you better have a hazmat suit and an airtight room with a 2 stage decontamination chamber just to handle it.

HNB (Heat Not Burn) is better than vaporizers.

Buddy's been using them in Japan (for some reason Philip Morris decided to release them there first rather than the West), and he's bringing me a pair when he comes back.

Nic is a fucking neurotoxin kiddo

I mix my own, with no flavor. Just VG and nicotine. I've got an older setup, so I'm using 30mg/ml.

I got tired of flavors, and just needed to get a fix of nicotine.

>What's your budget?
~70€

So are most sugar substitutes (they're excitotoxic). It's all about the quantity. As long as the intended effect occurs at a lower dose than the toxic effect (therapeutic index is bigger than 1), then it's not acceptable to refer to it as poison.

Water and oxygen are fucking toxic in the wrong circumstances.

Retards.

MVP 3.0

vaping 16 mg so often its fucking ruining my mood my day is significantly better when i stop #fuccvaping

The RX line is pretty good for that kind of budget.
What other preferences do you have?

It's about concentration.

Did you fucking read what I typed? Nicotine is toxic at 100mg/ml, AKA the concentrations at which they are used in making liquid.

Hi guys, long time smoker here. Thinking about switching to vaping because iam fed up with my health getting down the drain because iam to weak to stop. Are there any health improvements if i switch to vaping instead of smoking?

if you don't think it's so toxic how about try drinking some of that e fluid

>Did you fucking read what I typed?

Nah, too much work for a faggot vape thread.

After everything I've seen on Cred Forums, and I've seen some fucked up shit. People supporting vapeing just made me lose all faith in it.. b is fucking lame fucks now

Natural color in your face improves, maybe because you're not breathing carbon monoxide anymore. You don't smell like an ashtray anymore, and neither will your car if you clean it out. No more ashes and lighters and ashtrays.

It's worth it.

Vaping on a Melo 2 Tank on Sigelei 150 tc

Setup works well for me

Seeing the vaping haters made me lose faith in Cred Forums.
I used to think this place was for radical free thinkers back when I was a teenager.
Now I see it's just overrun with sheeple that just want porn.
Maybe I was just impressionable back then.

Its a great thing that a few drops of water in your mouth or an hours worth of inhalation of the earths atmosphere isn't toxic then. Nicotine can be absorbed through your skin and get you sick as shit without you even realizing it.

>nicotine
>toxic
It is.

>It's about concentration.
No. I'm not a biologist, but as a chemical engineer I have a pretty good fucking idea about safety of substances.
>Nicotine is toxic at 100mg/ml, AKA the concentrations at which they are used in making liquid.
Are you fucking retarded? That is only true if the concentration is so low that you cannot physically consume a sufficient amount of the carrier liquid to get a toxic dose of the nicotine.

>People supporting vapeing

I vape instead of smoking now, but I don't support vaping, because not everyone can do it. Some smokers just choke when they try and breath it in. Not sure why.

The money savings alone makes it worth it by several fold, unless you're a rich fag and can afford to smoek

Okay, taking all that into concern, at which price range should i try to start? Iam fairly new to this whole thing but i don't wanna just talk it down without trying it myself. Can you test the Vape Gadgets or what it's called at Vaping Stores or do i have to solely trust the word of the Shop owner? Iam a bit paranoid about it because i heard it is fairly expensive, but smoking also is in the long run...

Toxin=Poison from a living organism. Like Tobacco, or potatoes, or tomatoes.

youtube.com/watch?v=Dkm8Hteeh6M

VAPE NAYSH

Are you saying that something is only toxic when it's not toxic?

I'm no chemical engineer but that seems a bit wrong to me.

It's not that expensive if you can find someone that vapes to help guide you. Retail stores for vaping stuff is a nice way to try it out. Don't buy anything though. Order the same shit online and save a ton. It's not that expensive, honestly.

Think of it like this: for the cost of two cartons of smokes you can get started, and be able to vape for much longer than you can smoke those two cartons, then you can just get more e-liquid which is much cheaper than smokes.

Making it myself costs about .70 per 30ml bottle.

Get that weak shit outta here

>Snow wolf limited edition 200w, 100% VG juice

I'm using an Eleaf iJust 2, and i don't vape in public, only at home.
i do it to substitute for regular smoking and smoking a hookah which is now completely wrecked, i don't go above 6mg/ml.

Try some of this

You used to be able to try out flavors and machines from shops but new laws shit on that in the US. Abroad you should be good. Get something around 20 us dollars. Don't go for the little skinny pens. They put out just enough that you will taste it but they wont do you right like a cigarette. An Eleaf Ijust 2 is pretty cheap so that if you end up not liking the shit and want to just smoke again you would just be out of about one cartons worth of money. Buy a few cheap little bottles of flavors and decide which you like. One 60 ml bottle costs me 10 dollars and lasts me over a month.

if i wanted to suck on a fat chode i'd call my fuckbuddy.

No thanks. I used to smoke those when i'd get them from my German friends in Afghanistan.

This is me , and this sounds reasonable enough.

Thanks for the advice guys. Iam thinking that i'll check out a local vape store tommorrow or today, but i have to study alot atm. Good to know that you can still ask people unironically around here.
I smoke around 50 cigs a week, which costs me around 7- 10 € depending on how thick i roll them myself or if i smoke a joint or what not. But tobacco is really fucking me up. Just started College and i look like a vampire, thin and weak and shit. This needs to stop.

Spotted the faggot

I did not know the new laws prevented trying out new equipment and flavors.

Vaping is fucking pathetic. Either smoke or don't. Stop pretending to smoke. Growup you little faggots.

You'll suddenly stop breathing so much carbon monoxide, which is a good thing.

This one. Sub ohm 6mg nicotine and 80/20 but going for more throat hit next time. Not amerifat tho

I am not too sure about the laws, but locally they can no longer build coils for people with rebuilds, let anyone try any flavor or say anything about the possible health benefits from switching. My local shop has the owners brother who just hangs out off the clock to help people out like that.

how fucking stupid are you?

Vaping is smoking with NONE of the downsides including not killing you you fucking faggot.

You're an idiot

I can't afford cigarettes, and they make me smell like you. Do you have a remedy for your shitty smell?

My gear

...

I don't smoke. Get a job.

>they can no longer build coils for people with rebuilds

Yes, I heard about this one. Seems like a law paid for by the big vaping companies that want to take over (just theorizing)

Side effect of looking like a twat. And popcorn lung is a thing.

Don't smoke in the morning. My first cigarette is somewhere in the afternoon because it kills my appetite completely. I've eaten like twice by then. Vaping is a perfect substitute. If you get a normal one go for 12mg liquid, if sub ohm get 3

Has anybody tried a vype?
If yes, which flavour is the best?

29 year military vet here. I have a job, thanks.

Get a better one.

I don't use flavors for this reason. Just plain vg and a little nic.

Likely big tobacco. If people can't find juices and equipment they enjoy they're less likely to switch over.

You're so fucking stupid

Just don't fucking post ever again

You're a ridiculous idiot (same goes for anyone else who is against vaping and for smoking). IDIOTS

ITT: FUCKTARDS
>pic related

The taxable income is low, but the benefits, actual pay and travel are amazing. Na, I'll stick with this, thanks.

I probably have more responsibility than you do.

Just dont get anything with Diacetyl in it.

Popcorn long is a thing when you're breathing high concentrations of the chemical for extended hours a day with no break. and I mean HIGH concentrations.

Next thing you'll say is that pot kill brain cells because they suffocated monkeys with pot smoke and that killed brain cells.

Vaping is the new fedora. Like a big banner over your head avertising your giant vagina.

True dat. That's bitching about a papercut and then triumphantly stepping into a meat grinder. Biased retards

>Everyone in my state has switched to vaping due to being called stinky smoking vaginas

I really want to ask, how old are you?

And unless you are a wimpy desk jockey, you will enjoy crippling PTSD which will tear your family apart and make everyone you love despise you.

You,I like you.
=)

Older than you little vaping kids. The only people that vape around here are teenagers too young to buy smokes, unemployed drop kicks who can't afford to smoke, or hipster knobs that think its cool.

Popcorn lung is a side effect that barely anyone has suffered. The chances of getting popcorn lung from cigs is minimal and even less so in vaporizers. Shut the fuck up kid and get off this site.

just by virtue of giving a fuck about people vaping makes you an INFINITELY BIGGER FAGGOT YOU FUCKING IDIOT

God I fucking hate you

Yeah that's what iam trying to do. I got chrons disease and i need to stop to have a better it better health vise, but i've been a smoker for like 7 years currently and now iam regretting it. The whole appetite thing is something i need to get fixed, iam currently at 65kg and iam 185cm high, which is basicly being a stick. And iam not ugly or something, i just look like a junkie because of this whole fucking smoking. Feels bad man, kids never start to smoke it is bad for you i can tell lol. Well, now iam semi fucked and i have to live with it, but not everything is lost. What about overall condition? Can someone tell me if your lungs improve from switching to vaping? If i run for like half an hour (playing football for example, yes the US variant) i can't go on because iam out of air...

People always choke the first time they vape, doesn't matter if they smoked for years.

No, just here to troll. Just letting you know that the entire rest of society rol their eyes when they see someone play-smoking.

You pathetic faggot.
ITS HEALTHIER!!
What next? You going to bitch about salads too?
You make me fucking sick. Ignorant pathetic attempt at a Cred Forumstard. Go fuck yourself.

>or hipster knobs that think its cool.
It is cool you dipshit, it's odorless nicotine that isn't bad for, doesn't involve ash, and feels like a cigarette.

It literally alleviates EVERY SINGLE DOWNSIDE of cigarettes but you're so insanely stupid that somehow that is bad to you. You're pathetic

Healthier than smoking? Yeah it is. I don't smoke. But I dont make believe that i do either to feel like a big boy.

I'm roling on the ground lmao at u

Wow, I better stress out about nicotine.

We realize that, society at large is a bunch of ignorant sheeple. I just expected more from Cred Forums. Guess I'm stupid for that.

Fucking pathetic. You need grow the fuck up and mature. has nothing to do with feeling like a "big boy" its a choice,just like eating a fucking sandwhich

It isn't cool. Your retarded hipster / unemployed / child friends may think so, but in reality it is just sad.

...

Now this is a proper dude. Cigars > tobacco > vapenation

>>Nicotine is toxic at 100mg/ml, AKA the concentrations at which they are used in making liquid.
> Are you fucking retarded? That is only true if the concentration is so low that you cannot physically consume a sufficient amount of the carrier liquid to get a toxic dose of the nicotine.

You sound like a terrible engineer.

You tell yourself that. You are pretending to do all the cool stuff that your parents and their parents did in their rebelious years. But that's the point, you are just pretending. Playing. Like kids do.

do your manchild unemployed friends think you're cool for bitching in the internet for their choices?

>in reality it is just sad
but why? You dipshits never give reasons

I HATE anyone who is still against vaping I'm fed up with you idiots.

I realize you're just a sad troll but you still represent the fucking DUMBASSES out there who oppose vaping.

You've got a strange fixation on the idea that people vape to look cool.
You weren't very popular in highschool, were you?

I don't have unemployed friends. And if I did, I wouldn't consider their opinions on account of them being bums.

>Hardware
eVic VTwo Mini & Apire Cleito Tank.

>Mix
Nah

>Nic VGPG
3 nic 75/25 vg pg

>Illegal
Canada bitches.

>Hoard
Dont mix but I hoard anyway.

Two favorites right now is Frozen Tropics, and Naked100 Frostbite.

You should if you are playing with its concentrates.

>be me

>Get pulled over by cop the other day

>Cop taking huge vape hits in his car while checking my license.

>Cop returns to my window and without missing a beat I look at him and say "you vape brah?"

>He was not amused and got super defensive.

>Almost seemed embarrassed to be put in the same group as all you little vape fags.
>"I just quit smoking" blah blah blah

>Gives me my ticket and kinda stomps off.

Vaping just looks dumb and childish and most people are embarrassed so they make little vape threads and talk about there different fag juices and cock flutes they like suck on.

>I don't smoke.

Never too late to start.

Well do your employed (jesus they give jobs to anyone these days) manchild friends you're cool for bitching on the internet at people for their choices?

Why do you vape? You are a hipster, or are broke AF, or are trying to look cool.

It will improve dramatically within 1/3 months. Most of the damage caused is reversed within a year. It's not how much you smoked but how long, and 7 years isn't that bad, 95% of shit starts at 20 years of smoking

Nah, I'd just take reasonable precautions and not worry about it too much.

But then again, you come across like you are afraid of about everything.

No. We just roll out eyes and think it is sad that kids try to be all grown up and play make believe

>Vaping just looks dumb and childish
God you are fucking stupid

It just looks like anything else, identical to smoking cigarettes, weed or hookah just with a different device.

THEY ALL INVOLVE INHALING ON SOMETHING AND BLOWING OUT SMOKE/VAPOR. They all look identical

The only people have to be embarrassed about it is because THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE AS ILLOGICAL/INSANE AS YOU FUCKING OUT THERE

I'm a month in from 25 smokes or so a day and it's worth it. Less morning lung butter, not as winded, you can taste and smell a lot more.

I vape because I was addicted to cigarettes and it was taking a toll on my body, so I decided to put an end to it.

I'm not a hipster, I make 6 figures a year (family business), and I spend most of my time at my room or at school, so who am I looking cool for, my cat?

Your lungs definitely improve and you go through other changes same as when you quit smoking cold turkey.
You're inhaling 100s of other things with a cigarette so it's a big change going to vaping. A lot of people will cough when vaping though because it can dry your throat out if you do a lot of it since there is no tar to coat your whole passage way and make it smoother.
I know smoking is bad for chrons disease but it's weird because it's good for ulcerative colitis. My mom has had that her whole life and she wound up starting smoking in her 40s because she heard about that and it has helped suppress her attacks ever since.

There are at least 3 different people having a crack at you childish faggots. Just remember that everyone who sees you vaping in public thinks you are a massive attention seeking vagina.

I recommend the Smok HPRIV with the tvf4 tank. Comes as a set.

Yet the only people looking for attention are you guys trying to start shit
In that sense you're worse than vapers, how does that make you feel?

Pics or it didn't happen. Go back to your moms basement.

Im on an anonymous internet board. There is no attention.

>Everyone
Nah. Its a common place in our society now and if anything people who dont actually get it will just look at you in digust the same way they look at smokers.
No one gives half a shit anymore unless theyre the same of people named Karren who yells at random smokers on the street and store managers.

This proves that anyone who adamantly opposes vaping is, literally, likely not sane.

There's just no way you could be. Nobody is vaping for attention, that doesn't even BEGIN to make sense.

Vaping is a drug just like any other but it is a SAFE AND ODORLESS WAY TO GET A CIGARETTE HIGH.

It alleviates all the downsides of another product, thus making it by default, A GREAT INVENTION. This is how things work

I realize you're just trolling but I'd rather just continue to argue it because there's so fucking many of you

Feeling rustled bud lol?

"Duuuuuude brah have you tried the new double berry blast explosion yet?"

Your all twelve year olds with candy flavored "smoke"

>You're all 12 year olds with candy flavored smoke
Youre all 12 year olds with grape flavored sticks of manure odor and cancer.

I am rustled until you faggots shut up brah

Opposing vaping is moronic

I fucking enjoy the fuck out of vaping

It is exactly like pretending to smoke with a stick. Like kids do. The only difference is that you breath some pretend smoke in, like kids do in winter.

You are trying to justify a completely pointless, and childish addiction that is nothing more than a make believe game.

yeah just look at my poorfag computers

Most trolls change it up a bit, you stick to your guns though.

And you accurately just described smoking, hows that make you feel?
What point are you even trying to make?

up until now I assumed you didn't actually believe the things you were saying

If you are, that really proves my theory that the people that adamantly oppose vaping are just crazy. Like you're insane people

Have fun being not sane

BIG TOBBACCO SHILL

An i5, single 1080 250gb SSD, and a 1TB hdd is hardly a high end rig.

Haha fuck ciggs that's even stupider.

but you don't see like super elitist cigg smokers like you fags. At least the can admit they aren't cool anymore. But man, you guys really fucking LOVE your little flutes. It's just funny.

It's the opposite

It's a piece of shit

Your childish game is not a real thing. Go play on a swing set if you can't be man enough to be an adult.

50/50 12mg kiwifruit

>man, you guys really fucking LOVE your little flutes. It's just funny.
The argument is: you like a product so it's so pathetic that it's funny

Just by making that argument, you have shown that you're an INCONCEIVABLY pathetic person. You're the human embodiment of a pile of feces

Question: do u all smoke because it looks cool?

Yeah, just forget about the GPU + monitor that are $1400 alone.
A dedicated home server with 6TB raid5 is also chum change.

Your trolling is stupid and you're stupid.

I'm automatically enjoying going on Cred Forums more than you because I'm vaping while doing it.

Gotta love that nicotine buzz

Forgot pic

For a nicotine buzz, you could get a patch or gum. Instead, you draw attention to your retardation with clouds of pretend smoke.

>Super elistist smokefags
Because they died out. You saw them fucking everywhere when smoking was purely in style like vaping is now. You still have smokefag elistists who only smole cigars and high end shit acting snobby as fuck. You get elists with everything, dont try and pin it with vaping.

>You guys LOVE your little flutes.
And Im sure you LOVE your phone, your computer, your car, the fucks wrong with actually enjoying a piece of equiptment? Its also a hobby, and theres absolutely nothing wrong with talking about a hobby until people like you show up and shit all over it for some unknown reason.

Seriously dude, what's with your fixation about attention? If it wasn't highschool, was it your family? Did your parents not give you attention as a kid and that's why you so desperately seek it from strangers on the internet?

You are just proving you are a fat neck beard. If computer specs prove richness, my 5 year old son is a millionaire. You have to remember that $6k isn't actually that much money.

Calm down bro. Go have a cig or something and stop getting your panties in a twist over absolutely nothing because youre salty people are enjoying shit.

nicotine gum? What the fuck are you on?

The patch is the faggiest thing there is!

Vaping is actually cool it's just tarnished by all of the trolls. Vaping is cool just like cigarettes are except vaping doesn't kill you and smell like shit.

Blowing clouds is objectively awesome (the reason people fucking like hookah, which you probably like)

It is a lot of money to spend on something like a computer just for gaming and doing school work. Unless you're financially irresponsible. If I can buy a $5k computer every 2-3 years I can buy fucking cigarettes, and that was the point. I just decide to vape, and not because it's cheaper.

Why? One guy here is trying to prove he isn't a loser by posting PC specs. Which is like trying to prove you are a man by showing people you clitoris.

I'm trying to disprove that I vape because I'm poor, like the person I'm talking to said. Do you anti vapers just get mad at everything like SJWs or something?

Thanks, cuabas are my favourites, the only cuban cigars i like at least

It is if you're fucking poor

You can't say it isn't actually that much money it depends on the person, for some people it is for some people it isn't. Money is relative

OP here,

Wow i didn't expect so many US fags to be this stupid when it comes to vaping ... tabbaco lobby did its thing i bet they still think its good for the voice and healthy to inhalate tabbaco smoke

>inb4 hurrdurr eurofag

$6k is not a lot of money.

Because youre salty as fuck over nothing.
His reasons is just below your post. Some people got into a little heat, why do you care so much about something you obviously hate?
Youre not going to change shit being salty here.

Alright buddy, whatever you say. I realize that you're going to keep arguing no matter what I say, and that's okay, I know that's the fun of it.

I just ran out of what to say, I guess in a sense you won. Kudos.

you realize the majority of the people in the world would consider 6k to be a lot of money? It's a stupid argument

I'm not the person you were talking to before

I just wish you fuckers wouldn't act like it's gods gift to the earth Everytime someone gives you shit lol.

Y'all have taken this a bit more seriously than I have but I've enjoyed our little chat.

I'm guna go do my hobby now, smoke weed!!!!!

Hate on my hobby and ridicule all you want (I just won't care)

;)

I just bought the sigelei 213 and I'm using the limitless rdta
And I use all vg

>Delusions of grandeur
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

My point was that I have enough money to smoke, not that I have a $80,000 computer and am richer than bill gates. But when you're talking with trolls logic doesn't matter

what's your point? Are you bragging that you argue with me when you didn't actually read what I was responding to or what?

USfags, OP again.

If you haven't bonkered already you should look for brown glass bottles up to 100ml 72mg/ml get ike 20 of them and you got all vape for lyfe.
You can get cheap-ass flavours when using ice flavours based on PG (or w/e just no sugar or fat/oil in it). I got 1L high concentrated flavour (using ~1.25% flavour ) for 30€. I would recommend using brown glass bottles for any kind of Aroma or Nicotin base since UV kills nicotine and flavour.

>You fuckers
Lump me into that shit all you want, I don't act like it's some godsend.
People want information, people give information, in terms of health aspects, it could be close to a massive gift to everyone, not godsend, Only because it's a quicker way to quick than patches and gum, and it's straight out healthier.
>Take it seriously
Eh. A good debate never hurt.

>Smoke weed
What you hitting friend?

>Hate on my hobby
I bet you smell like weed, fucker.

why the hell would you hate on vaping when you smoke weed?

You really need to start thinking about things in terms of actual LOGIC. use that weed and the increased introspection for something useful for once loser

I don't fucking know what you said

My points are

Vaping is good

Saying 6k isn't a lot of money is fucking stupid because it depends on the person in question

If you disagree with any of my points then you're a fucking idiot. /thread

Welcome to Cred Forums advertising.

How do you think this site is paid for?

Gib shekels.

Just cause it was fun. Could give a fuck about your Vapes brah. I just don't do it cause I don't currently have a dependence on nicotine and I'd rather not develop one, vapor or not.

Shit build in there

It is a godsent to some people, for example people who are finally free from cigarette addiction after decades.

Same as weed for people who can benefit from its for its medical properties, or for it's recreational properties.

Sure, there's annoying vapers, there's also annoying stoners. I don't hate on your hobby, I hate on your stupidity.

I was agreeing with you.

Yeah, I was just glad I finally got something to fit. I'll make a better one when I get some time.

well then good. Your views are correct

I get that, I need to be addicted to shit to keep my life/self occupied, so when vaping came around I was pretty stoked because it meant I can have a cigarette high again (I previously quit because cigs are insanely bad for you)

My hobby is similar but i know that tabacco is toxic but i dont care it tastes good.

A Mans hobby!

I myself also partake in the cigar!

Fave so far?

Mine is Drew Estate Java

is the charging via a USB 3.0 slot faster than charging via USB 2.0 ?

I believe that charging with either is about the same. I think most regulated mods limit the charge to about 1 amp. Not 100% sure.

a decent mod knows what its doing, i use my galaxy s6 fast charger and it still charges fine just how it should

That's okay. You have a hobby, you know it's harmful for you, but that's your choice.
I have my hobby, I know that while it's much safer than cigarettes it's not proven entirely harmless.

What's the point on hating other people's hobby?

Oh noes, the moody hipster with what looks like a prop from the porn version of metropolis hanging out of their mouth thinks I'm a fgt!
So no matter what is actually going on in the scientific community, you're going to trust in the fedora tipping reports in sad vaping douche monthly and consider another moronic pseudo scientist giving it the thumbs up a plausible 'peer review' just so you can go on with your fantasy that you actually aren't as gullible and exposed to health risks as smokers thought they were once upon a time
>mfw you aren't a student of history or walk around with your eyes open.

That doesn't change the charging limit

i know it doesnt i worded it wrong, well im drunk basically

>So no matter what is actually going on in the scientific community
You should see what's actually going on in the scientific community sometime. You'd see the evidence supports our claims.

>student of history
Oh, that explains it. Can't expect a historian to understand science.

>being this much of a cuck
>"Y-you have y-your h-hobbies, I HAVE MY HOBBY"

Sure, it's your hobby; I'm sure you're okay with the newly acquired ovaries.

Oh, I can play this game too! I can sift through googles double digit's pages to find "scientific" articles that say vaccines are horrible.

Cherry pick your science as you will, you disgusting excuse for a human being

As I'm sure you're okay with your insecurities about your masculinity.

From left to right:

- Wismec Reuleaux rx200 with a Smok TFv8 (aka The Clould Beast)
- HCigar Vt133 with a Vaporesso Nalu RDA
- Lost Vape eFusion Duo (lipo 1300mah) with a Infinite CLT RDA
- Sigelie J150 with a Aspire Cleito 120 (current take to work and travel mod)

I got the eFusion Duo for free from my local shop that I frequent after racking up enough points. I really don't need four god damn mods, but after some time I ended up with these.

Spanish cedar here.

I combine Casa de Nicaragua with Cuaba destingidos

Its a great hormony!

Tipp: if u like whisky or congnac put 1-2 drops in your humidifer

If you want to drink decaf coffee and swear that it's healthier than a nice dark roast, more power to you.

I like the fap box next to the computer, easy access for the lonely virgin types

>Tipp: if u like whisky or congnac put 1-2 drops in your humidifer
>Disgracing cognac by not only mispelling it, but by suggesting you use it in a common household appliance.

J/K I put some in my mod the other day, shit was good

Oh of course. "Cherry picking" means disregarding flawed studies, I'll keep that in mind. Like how vaping involves heating up a coil to 400-600F, and they heated up a coil to 1200F+ and it released toxic fumes. That's a valid study, I should include it when forming my opinion regarding vaping.

Remember that study where they pumped monkeys with pot smoke in a gas mask for 30 minutes without allowing oxygen in the masks? That was also a valid study and is evidence that pot kills brain cells. It wasn't lack of oxygen, no boy, it was pot. If you say otherwise you're cherry picking.

>How do you feel on vape being illegal soon in US?

I don't know if this has been answered or not, but what do you mean by this?

Good ol' IVP 3Li with a Big Buddha V3. Pretty decent I think with pretty good cloud production.

IPV 3Li.
My bad

>trying this hard on a imageboard to justify what you like

Careful now, you're approaching full asperger,

>vapor bread
>bread
You colossal fucking faggot, what on earth made you think swapping the 'th' for a 'b' was a good idea? It adds literally nothing of value, at all, to your post. You just saw it somewhere and thought you'd be a faggot too, huh?

Fap box? You mean the tissues? No, that's for cleaning up ejuice that I spill. Buying tissue box after tissue box for cleaning up spilled spunk is a waste of money.

I have a bunch of cotton towels I bought a few years ago from Walmart for that. Just have to throw them into the wash with my other whites every week. Compared to tissues, it's a lot more efficient and better way to clean up after a fap session.

Also pic related, I just finished putting some need coils in my Nalu. Twisted pair claptons. 2x 28 gauge cores with 32 gauge external wrap. And no, I didn't build them, bought a premade roll.

>Oh shit, he's actually right and I can't refute it, what do I do?
>I know! call him autism! That'll show him!

I got a 50w k box, a Kennedy v1 competition drip tank, and a custom mouth piece.

I smoke everything and this is my go to.

Im on Cred Forums by my phone right now
Sry for the mistakes

Democrats and liberals are passing bills through the FDA to treat vaping as a tobacco product. Limiting the sale of home-mixes without a license.

Basically, Only underage fags are crying that it'll be "illegal". Anyone with common sense mixes their own juice by now.

New question for the forum:

If you don't mix your own juice, why haven't you killed yourself yet?

A faggot ragging this hard?

How's the flavor with those coils? Seen'em but never tried them

>ragging

>Can't disprove
>autismo doesn't cite sources

What about the study in which they used a Tfv4 micro with a 50/50% and it came up with 10 times the lethal limit of CH2O.

What about the nice units that exploded because the hybrid mod was shorting the battery from the postive terminal, throwing the negative current back through the unit?
keitavapestore.blogspot.com/2016/02/education-battery-safety-19-02-2016.html

Isn't the FDA getting hit with the biggest class-action lawsuit against them so far? Like 11 different groups sued the FDA over their new vaping regulations, and a supreme court judge just said to lump them all up into one class-action suit.

And that big tobacco isn't backing up the FDA, because the FDA tried to though them under the bus. In the 500 pages of new regulations, they tried to put in a part about cigarette makers listing their ingredients. But they won against the FDA having to in like the 1960s or 70s.

>tfw newfriend scrambles to cite sources for outlandish studys

Protip: check the backpages of Google.

Yeah, I remember when the #occupyWallstreet happened to.

You know, when all those people fakes being homeless in a shantytown to take down the "1%"

TL;Dr, Just because there's alot of lawsuits, doesn't mean it'll work

>What about the nice units that exploded because the hybrid mod was shorting the battery from the postive terminal, throwing the negative current back through the unit?

You mean to tell me that, when you short batteries, they can explode? Shit, that's obviously vaping's fault. Heck, samsung's Note 7 exploding is vaping's fault as well.

>What about the study in which they used a Tfv4 micro with a 50/50% and it came up with 10 times the lethal limit of CH2O.

Could you link that study, I haven't read that one.

The flavor is really great, and so is the vapor production. But, I think the real benefit to them is that it's easier to make tighter coils with them. I feel like they are only a small amount better than parallel fused claptons. It's also a lot easier to make coils with them. Compared to regular fused where you need to make sure they are uniformed and flat across to avoid hotspots and open gaps.

Still dicking around with them and trying them out against regular single core and parallel fused claptons.

>B-but Note 7
You know that there is a massive recall on the Note 7, and there are lawsuits against Samsung?

Nice Logical Fallacy you've got there.

So I take it you couldn't cite your sources? It's been well over 20 minutes

Tell me how it's a fallacy?

And what source? I didn't know I had to cite a source.

>
No, I think the fact that I'm not smoking cigarettes anymore will negate the damage I was doing to my lungs.
Where you are right, you are also wrong anything going into your lungs is completely dangerous, there is no alternative to smoking anything especially "vapor". The best thing to do is not smoke anything. Water vapor in your lungs is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, why would you purposely give yourself pneumonia? And never substitute something for another thing, because where I do agree that cigarettes are worse, every smoker I know that has used vaping to quit smoking goes back to smoking when something is wrong with their vape

I just like the flavor if I'm honest. Tastes better than cigs and isn't as expensive as cigars.

Well, When you misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack. It's called a Strawman.

>Misrepersentation
Compared a non-recalled product to a recalled product leading to exaggerated claims.

Man, you really need to work this. I'm disappointed in you.

Study one that you said
>Like how vaping involves heating up a coil to 400-600F, and they heated up a coil to 1200F+ and it released toxic fumes. That's a valid study, I should include it when forming my opinion regarding vaping.

> that study where they pumped monkeys with pot smoke in a gas mask for 30 minutes without allowing oxygen in the masks?

"lul what studys"

You're almost right, almost, but you're entirely wrong.

Things aren't measured in Absolute safe and Absolute danger.
So no, putting anything in your lungs isn't "completely dangerous", that doesn't even make sense.

Is air pollution 100% safe to inhale? what is that? no? Oh well then no one should ever live in cities, own cars, burn wood, etc. right?

>The best thing to do is not smoke anything.
That's correct, however, addiction is a thing.

Vaping isn't inhaling water vapor, that's a retarded thing hipster vapers say. There's actually no vapor in vaping, it's just the name that caught on. When you vape you're inhaling an aerosol, works the same way as fog machines. Should we avoid those too?

>Never substitute something for another thing
That's stupid, if your only options are either of those things, go for the less harmful one.

What does the fact that the Note 7 was recalled have anything to do with this argument? You're the one that's using a strawman.

You're blaming batteries on vaping. My point was that vaping didn't invent batteries, and that batteries explode when faulty or mishandled.

About the studies let me try and find them.

>"You're the one that's using a strawman."

And theres the tu quoque. Nice going champ. On a roll with these

>"About the studies let me try and find them."
See

Do you realize how stupid you sound?
>W-well the fact that I'm using the fallacies that that I claimed you were using doesn't mean I'm wrong!

Now how about you actually address the points I gave?

>What does the fact that the Note 7 was recalled have anything to do with this argument?

>You're blaming batteries on vaping. My point was that vaping didn't invent batteries, and that batteries explode when faulty or mishandled.

About the studies, I looked for the monkey study, but it is from the 70s, so I couldn't find much besides pages that may be biased pro pot, so this is the only source I found with my little searching: mit.edu/~thistle/v13/2/myths.html

Paragraph 2 talks a bit about the study, if you google his name you can find more sources talking about the study, some seemed biased, but I'm sure you can find an unbiased one.

Joy tech cuboid and smok tvp4.

Vaping Dr. Crimmy strawberry strudel. Just got 500 ml 80/20 3 mg for $110. Considering diy now.

You have a 3rd option mate.

My kayfun nigga

I dig that cabinet user.
What is it?

Quitting? Yes, that is an end goal. Vaping helps a lot with this since it isn't as addictive as smoking, since it lacks monoamine oxidase inhibitors. So again, what is your point? That quitting cold turkey and having a higher risk of relapsing is better?

>"stupid you sound?"

Straight for the ad-homeroonies. I like how you play.

>What does the fact that the Note 7 was recalled have anything to do with this argument?

Seeing how you brought the Note 7 into this, I'm shocked you don't know the answer yourself. However, let's go down your rabbit hole. 1) You are comparing the batteries of two different devices, one being a flexible low drain Li-po battery, to a high-drain 18650. 2.) By Understanding that the Note7 is being recalled, you are aware that it's laughable to say that the same shouldn't being applied to vaping.

personal incredulity much?

Leading onto this
>You're blaming batteries on vaping. My point was that vaping didn't invent batteries, and that batteries explode when faulty or mishandled.

Mishandles because the faulty 510 connections created the contact points on the hybrid mod. Good thing I cited the source which you clearly didn't understand.

Oh, I'd like to point out that you conveniently didn't cite the vape study you mentioned.

>Like how vaping involves heating up a coil to 400-600F, and they heated up a coil to 1200F+ and it released toxic fumes. That's a valid study, I should include it when forming my opinion regarding vaping.

I'm not discrediting your argument based on your observably low intelligence, it was half to let you know in case you were unaware that you're mentally challenged, and half for my satisfaction.

So let's go through this again, step by step, so you can understand.

1) That has nothing to do with the topic in hand, which is, "Batteries can explode when faulty and/or misused"
2) Their recall has nothing to do with the topic in hand, which is, "Batteries can explode when faulty and/or misused"

>Mishandles because the faulty 510 connections created the contact points on the hybrid mod.

OH! I understand now! you're saying that the battery exploded because it was misused... Hmm that sounds familiar, oh yeah! "Batteries can explode when faulty and/or misused." Where have we heard that before? Oh yeah I said it a few times already. Wait, did I say, "VAPING batteries can explode when faulty and/or misused"? no, I think I said "batteries can explode when faulty and/or misused" Strange, it sounds like this is an inherent property of batteries, and not of vaping. How curious how things are, huh?

Don't you think I'm not going to address the fact that it was a mod that shorted the battery. Do you know what a hybrid device is? Do you? You sound like you don't, because if you did you wouldn't have brought it up. So let me bring you up to speed. A hybrid device is an ADVANCED vaping device that has removed all battery protections and safety's by not having a full 510 connection, and instead exposing the atomizer directly into the battery's terminals. When using these ADVANCED devices one should use special atomizers that have longer positive pins, so that the battery is not shorted.
Huh, weird how things be, don't you think? If you insert an incompatible atomizer into an ADVANCED vaping device that has all battery safety features removed and the battery directly exposed, it can blow up.

Good thing I cited the source which you clearly didn't understand.

Well at least he's not smoking disembodied Android jizz.

Sorry, ran out of space.

>Good thing I cited the source which you clearly didn't understand
Don't you worry, I understand, I understand much better than you.

I think the situation I described clearly sounds like misuse, doesn't it? Wait, I can hear some words chanting in my head. It's like a voice of reason, it's saying... wait, I've heard this before, it's saying "BATTERIES CAN EXPLODE WHEN FAULTY AND/OR MISUSED"

Huh. Life be curious sometimes.

Do you reckon if I stick a pair of tweezers into a wall outlet and it causes damages I can sue tweezers manufacturer since their product is clearly unsafe?

>>Like how vaping involves heating up a coil to 400-600F, and they heated up a coil to 1200F+ and it released toxic fumes. That's a valid study, I should include it when forming my opinion regarding vaping.

I still haven't provided the source. I looked a bit but mostly I was typing all that shit up. It is an old study that I read a while ago, and I didn't find it in the little searching I did.

However I don't really feel like searching anymore, this argument has been entertaining and all, but I feel it reached the point where it's not going to be fun anymore, so I'm just going to watch some shit and head to bed after.

If you want to take that as a victory, do so.

Fuckin millennials and your little make believe games, I really hope that you all get popcorn lung. Stop pretending to smoke, it just makes you look like faggots, you either smoke or you don't. The third choice is to look like a stupid little kid.

I don't smoke. I use my Personal Electronic Nicotine Inhalation System. There's nothing stupid about sucking on a P.E.N.I.S.

>a stupid little kid
A stupid little kid with lung capacity and no cancer at age 60.

Kek
Well I'd rather not look like a complete Faggot and die of cancer than look like a complete Faggot. You either smoke or you don't, it's that simple. The third choice is to be retarted.

yeah like I said, I don't smoke, I just suck on a P.E.N.I.S.

Anyone else vape with a volcano here?

Go get cancer then faggot. The smarter of us will either quit, or vape if we can't quit. Enjoy evolution.

Or vape until we can quit. It's less addictive than normal tobacco so you can gradually quit.

this is real vaporizing. fuck pens, fuck mods, also it sounds gay as hell when i hear you fags talk about "training" your lungs.

don't even care that it smells like a bakery or your favorite fruit niggah; that shite is stupid as hell.

Aspire Atlantis
Ice Lemon 6mg

LMAO! THIS IS WHAT KIDDIES ACTUALLY BELIEVE!? HAHA THE MAD MAN!!

bruh. i don't even believe you sat through that movie ever. so don't be quoting like YOU know what it means;

bro let me throw some maths at ya, for every 1 annoying stoner, there's at least 5 other "vapers" or w/e they call themselves.

at least here in florida it's like that.

That's too bad man, I feel you.
Here in colorado is the exact opposite.

duh colorado is opposite;

they should just rename Colorado WEEDorado.

Yeah, you get shitty vapers in florida, you get shitty stoners in colorado.
That's just life, neither of our scenarios prove anything regarding how all vapers and stoners are.

> What hardware do you use ?
IPV2s with a Velocity clone
> Do you mix on your own ?
Yes
>-if so what nicotin and PG/VG combo do you use ?
1mg nic, 95%VG and 5%water
> How do you feel on vape being illegal soon in US ?
Sucks, there will be a lot less hardware coming out, apart from that it doesn't matter, am from europe
> -if you're mixing yourself do you hoard bunker base ?
Freezer

>1mg nic, 95%VG and 5%water
what coil do u use `?

>What hardware do you use ?
rx200s with a 0.22 build on a mad hatter v2 and at 70w
>Do you mix on your own ?
nah, impossible to get vape products in japan
>-if so what nicotin and PG/VG combo do you use
6mg 60%-70% pg
>How do you feel on vape being illegal soon in US ?
doesn't really affect me since most of my hardware is chinese and i get most of my juice from philippines and malaysia
>Which falvour do you fav ?
strawberry's the shit

talk about set up