I gotta admit, I was a lukewarm Trump supporter but now this idea has me questioning my position...

The word liberal means nothing now. You idiots overused it to the nth

Yes, but people who have been in politics for even a little while have a record we can look at. The problem for me this time, is I don't like Clinton's record. I disagree with her on much of it.

Not even counting the propaganda on both sides, just actual policy decisions.

Does Trump represent Republican values in your mind? Or is he a corruption of everything it stands for?

I still don't know where he stands on immigration. Or foreign policy. Or domestic policy. Or abortion. Or guns.

Ban porn? Fine.
Criminalize encryption? Great
Criminalize marijuana federally again, and force the FBI to enforce the law where it's been "legalized"? Ok.

But what about that wall? And why is the orange god wavering on deportations.

We'll see tonight, during the Debate.

No, he does not represent my republican values really. He's not really conservative. The things that he does claim that algins with my beliefs - smaller gov, less taxes, less spending - it's hard to take him seriously. That's the point.

But he's also not a corruption of everything it stands for.

We know 30 years of billary's criminal, self serving socialist activities and EXACTLY what she will do to sell America down the river.

inbred retard confirmed

Why? That won't change shit in terms of the point of this thread.

He definitely represents republican values, look at his actual platform instead of his bombast

I'm afraid trump is an abomination and a corruption of any decent policy. I frankly don't even know his stance on most issues, because he lies so much.

citation needed

>immigration
Build a wall, expect foreign government to pay for it.
>foreign policy
don't care
>domestic policy
Wall and heavy policing

But then..
>Ban porn
NO
>Criminalize encryption
Why?
>Criminalize weed again
Also, why?

It's like his position was written up by a 5th grader.

That's true. He's flip flopped on almost every single issue. Even the wall, there are places where he's gone and said it was rhetorical.

You're OK with banning porn and weed?

>It's like his position was written up by a 5th grader.
that's because most of his supporters are at a 5th grade reading level or below

Moron

Well, it should shed some light on whether Trump's really serious about this, or he's just been riding on popularity of his name all this time. I actually look forward to him being ripped to shreds, because he's had nothing but baseless rhetoric up until now.

Plus, it'd really stick in my step-father's craw.

I'm a lukewarm Trump supporter because he pisses off all the people I like seeing pissed off. Is that an objectively terrible reason to support a political candidate? You betcha. But what else is there? They are both horrible scum of the earth, but at least Trump is entertaining.

Yeah, exactly. There's so much conflicting information he puts out there.

I gotta say the anti-porn thing is really insulting and worrisome, particularly because no one mentioned it much afterwards. That makes it seem like both sides of the debate might get on board.

Crazy billionaire Ross Perot ran for president in the 90's
That nigger had charts and graphs and a detailed plan of what he wanted to do

Because we have literally seen the fruits of her political career. Syria is in shambles and ISIS has risen form the ashes becuase of HER! (Emails were leaked of her talking about intentional destabilization) She left 4 americans to die at benghazi, has numerous scandals (Hati Relief fund, Bosnia Trip), Caught on email manipulating the media and voter fraud. She is a crook through and through and we have seen this time and time again.

I feel like he's either a plant, or he ran on a jolly and is terrified he'll win.

Yes, because Trump is.

Or are you a stupid libtard?

i mean it won't let us decide what he's going to do if elected. He'll say whatever he needs to, obviously. He's already been through what 3? regime changes.

Hillary, somehow a millionaire? Trump built multinational corporations. Nice bullshit picture tho

No electroral college was put into place because the founding fathers were afraid that the public might elect an idiot or a tyrant or soemthing and the electoral college was the educated elite's way of making sure that didnt happen. In todays world tho, there would be blood on the streets if the electoral college did not simply parrot the results of the election.

Shame, because Trump is the exact thing the founding fathers meant to prevent when they put the electoral college in place.

don't trust her at all

>bhengazi

saw that and stopped reading. you kool aid drinkers really know how to beat a dead horse.

It would be cool it Trump would release his taxes. We're vetting him for the highest position on earth.

Also - why won't he be detailed, like perot. and honest... Is is that hard for him?

are you an edgy contrarian? do you have meme opinions that you think are different and make you unique but they really aren't? Then vote Trump!

Yea its a shame he didnt win. Shows how educated the public LIKES being

could he be... a plant by Russia? 2 of his campaign advisors have been outed as Russian-sympathizers.

He will crush the niggotry in the cities
don't give a fuck what else he does

In 2012, he apparently said he thought Hillary would make a great president. Now he's...'against' her.

I don't think it would be possible for Trump to run the country and his company at the same time. This campaign already has him hemmorhaging money.

you think...do when elected
Nope. can't predict what any human will do.

Think of it like this: it won't be Hillary's first term

It will be Bill's third term

yeah, hes only done a whole month of speeches outlining what he plans on doing. Hillary faggot detected.

As Alexander Hamilton writes in "The Federalist Papers," the Constitution is designed to ensure "that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications." The point of the Electoral College is to preserve "the sense of the people," while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen "by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice."

Can you prove that Trump's a billionaire? Can you prove he's not bankrupt?

No?

Didn't think so. Those taxes would be nice to see.

No he didn't, idiot. Perot's whole thing was he was going to hire people to decide, couldn't answer questions on his own.

Trump is very much like Perot 2.0

How?

He's said nothing of this at all faggot. You're delusional.

proof?

>I gotta say the anti-porn thing is really insulting and worrisome

Right, then you would actually have to talk to girls with your mouth... I hope Trump weeds out basement dwellers like you

...

>I hate anti-American boarder jumpers and muslims!
>support Putin!

...

Sure he will. He's begging for their votes now.

Sure you can, when there's a history to look back on. You can also be pretty sure if the candidate does not waver and waffle endlessly abuot almost every single issue.

you mean liberals are nothing now.
you're thinking of the overuse of the term racist.

that's not too bad

rt.com/usa/360069-trump-misused-charity-funds/

No he won't, he's sucking their cocks for votes right now. Talk about "muh cuck" meme

>saw that and stopped reading. you kool aid drinkers really know how to beat a dead horse.
My god you must be fucking retarded. What the fuck are you even talking about. Classic non argument. Is that seriously the best you got? Your literally admitting to being so intellectually dishonest that you stop thinking critically after someone triggers you. What have I said that was incorrect?

failing this hard.

>What do we really know about what's he's actually going to do?
>Nothing.

The God emperor, is the living embodiment of American freedom.

No man, not that other user. But i was very much aware of the world when Perot ran for president. He bought prime time TV time so that he could lay out a very thorough platform to the public. He wasw a bit loony, but he ran on actual issues and not emotional MAGA bullshit and controversy. He was a legit candidate and trump is the reality TV candidate that stupid white dudes are eating up for some reason.

lol even a Russian owned propaganda machine doesn't want this retard in the White House

Claims he wants to triple private prisons. Great. I love my tax dollars going in some rich assholes pocket so he can lock up non violent drug offenders indefinitely. Also fuck Shillary

What? Literally said none of that, way to try and straw man my argument cock stain.

It's sad, because trump's supporters are virtually all undereducated white laborers (or they're unemployed).

and they don't understand that trump's trickle-down policies will only further destroy them.

republican voters think like rich men - but they're peons, voting against their best interests in every election. fools. imbeciles. troglodytes.

snappy comeback

drown us in more platitudes about shit you don't understand

youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lfd1aB9YI
17:18

inb4: HBO liberal media wah wah wah. if it wasn't true HBO wouldn't air it because they know little donnie loves to sue people almost as much as people love to sue him.

implying you know what those values are.

>I admit I liked Trump because he said a bunch of shocking things but now I'm not so sure because I realized I don't actually know what kind of president he'll be
>aka I'm a fucking simpleton
Trump supporters in a nutshell

stay angry, die early

You're a petulant child, with no substance. You've failed. You're not debate worthy.

And now you're blocked from posting to me ever again (BECAUSE I CAN AFFORD A Cred Forums PASS).

yea i've never understood this. Trailer trash voting for rich men who despise them and use them.

seems like it was posted by one.

CRAWLING IN MY SKIN

It's a given that trumpie is going to lose the debate tonight, but it's sort of sad that his followers are all so dumb they'll think he won.

Per the impeached...

before supporting trump, I can remember you animals saying "we hate the GOP!". now you're steadfast republicans again. how convenient.

moreover, what is his platform? what he says ("his bombast"), or what his campaign website says. if you can't trust his bombast, how can you trust his campaign website.

what kind of an utter fool... would support this animal?

>drown us in more platitudes about shit you don't understand
Platitudes..... says the retard who made the comment with ZERO value. Again you can't make a single intellectual comment on the reasons I have laid forward you just keep deflecting away. Try and actually stay on topic or just fuck off.

Friendly reminder that if you support either candidate you're uneducated and are part of the problem.

>Bbbut but but the two party system is flawless!
>Bbbut but but but I'm a Democrat!
>But but my voice matters!

Stfu, we lost, USA.

sure kid. at least they aren't gullible enough to believe the same promises for the last twenty years.

I'm pretty sure the far left liberals think they know exactly how Trump is going to run things. Apparently they think it's going to be like Hitler. They all say he's racist, yet he's never outright said a racist thing. They all think he's a racist, yet he's more liberal than not. They all say he's insane, yet he hasn't done anything inane. They all think they know that he's the most evil thing ever yet he's done nothing at all except talk a lot of shit. Hillary on the other hand actually has a carer in politics we can look to and it's filled with questionable moves and she is without a doubt a sell out and did vote for the war in Iraq among al whole lot of other horrors, imo.

That said, I'm no Trump supporter, however, I'm not drinking the Trump hate Kool-aid the media and liberals are mixing up. We don't know shit about him other than his business deals and a few nasty things, in some peoples opinion. that he's said.

Also, imo, he does not know what he's doing in politics, on the other hand, meh, other people can do it, the same people that always do. Either way, the corporations will be pulling the strings no matter what puppet is "elected".

tl:dr same puppet different dress, Trump has no history in politics and no one knows what he will do. All the the evils he's blamed for is nonsense based on nothing but a few things he said. He's done nothing at all but talk shit.

He did a great job of selling his brand name.

It can't be "understood" because it's not true.

Most of Trump' s supporters aren't trailer trash. Are some? Certainly.

Most? Definitely not.

That is why it's a meme.

Look, it's difficult for me to vote for a democrat. What can I say?

I'm betting there will be a lot of Trump supporters who get cold feet at the last minute and vote Clinton

trying this hard. why not call him a poopy head?

fake and gay

2nd racist= Fascist my bad

How do you know what hilary is going to do? Shes to vusy with smear commercials

Trump is a Cred Forums tard he is chaos and random VOTE TRUMP HE IS RANDOM

Any other Eurofag looking forward to being the only superpower once Trump is elected?

stale and lame

As long as he delays only a few years the raise of the "trade agreements" and the corporate takeover of the government and administrations (easy think to do noting how delusional and self-absorbed, and how he overestimates his skills) he will be the best president of the last 50 years and one of the greatest statesman in the world.

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I staunchly support the humiliation and fall from grace of Trump.
But when I think about it...he will have nuclear weapons. Dude has dementia settling in. He will have a hair trigger.

I hope at last that we will have...peace.

he's actually hurt his brand, though, through the campaign.

lol I mean the average republican can't afford to stay in his hotels.

no, coastal liberals (the rich, the producers) are his best clients, and he's alienated them.

no, it's just an if the election is held today forecast.

Clinton foundation gives less than 5% of what they earn. Hows that legit

ah the bias American media.
no lies here.

He literally says what he's going to do. Its not that he's unpredictable, its that he's straightforward and actually supports the country, not domestic terrorists and globalist ideal.

Fuck off CTR

I'd vote for the mad magazine guy before i would vote for trump

The US do this all the time. The rich halt the wages since the 70s and they still suck corporate dick and praise the rich

Bruh who cares. Voting or not. Just please do the world of america a favor? Dont vote for shittery. You shouldnt vote for either of the two evils because there is no lesser this time.

that's a good point. his hotels and shit are a constant affronts to the poor's inability to pay for them.

this would actually be a post if the media wasn't so bias.

oh no. look at trump's demographics. virtually all working-class/unemployed - and almost all uneducated, whites. ie white trash.

are you speaking of the other 2 retards in "the race" ? the degenerate aging hippie and the fuckwad who couldn't register Aleppo ?

Our choices are severely limited. Given this choice, I support the guy who isn't backed by faggots, angry niggers, and Jew educated pussy libs

Hadn't considered that. I know most of his Republican supporters can't afford anything with the name "Trump" on it, but I hadn't considered the coastline liberals.

>what's he's actually going to do?
>Nothing.
Nothing is actually a good thing for this fucked-up country.

remember this poster claims to be smarter than you.

> He literally says what he's going to do

considering he contradicts every opinion he holds I cant see how thats possible

No, I won't be voting third party. I'm a republican and I don't support libertarian or green for various reasons. In fact, a democrat would be better for 4 years than either of them.

You don't have to write "period" in text to emphasise a talking point you can just use ". " fag

lol exactly, but somehow "Trump's not an elitist!". And "Trump's not an insider!". And "Trump's not the establishment!", the poor retards cry out...

remember this poster thinks he is smarter than you.

Hillary is a controlling bitch with delusions of grandeur, just like nearly every other politician. But at least she knows how to work in Congress. Trump has alienated just about everyone in the world except white Americans who don't give a shit -- which is a huge voting bloc. Considering that, I'll hold my nose and vote for Hillary. Yeah, yeah, email server. Big fucking deal.

>bills 3rd term
You mean Hills 3rd term. He's a party guy. She's smarter than he is.

I'm pretty liberal, not far left or anything. But I have no idea what trump could do. And my mind always goes to the worst possible things. Like...
>He has total disdain for our alliances and NATO and seems to love Putin and has ties to him within his organization. He has also demonstrated a total lack of understanding of foreign affairs and the balance of power etc.
Thats some scary shit. Could Trump totally piss off many of our allies and end up reshaping the global balance of power? Could major conflicts be started because of this? IO think its a very real possibility
>Trump seems to have very little respect for free speech. Wants to censor internet because terrorism. Wants to silence media by expanding libel laws.
Could Trump really get some of these things through Congress? I fucking hope not, not willing to take chances here

...meanwhile, no one likes Hillary, but she will do nothing extreme to fuck up this country. She has a long record as a mediocre politician. She should be just like Bill Clinton 2.0 and the 90s were pretty cool, so I'm fine with that...

and he's bringing down others, like occulus rift. i wouldn't be surprised if luckey eventually had to get out of it, sell it off or step down.

I never said vote third party either. Basically this shite is so rigged that even if you vote it litterally wont make a difference. The only true answer is for everyone to hold thwir vote. Cause this is bs times 100

>all uneducated, whites. ie white trash.
I'd hang any day of the week with "white trash" than niggers...
any...day...of...the...week!

seems to be true, at least in your case.

>Yeah, yeah, email server. Big fucking deal.
next wikileak is her fap folder

when has trump ever consistently held a viewpoint? he's a pathological liar and a sociopath. a great salesman - but what do salesmen do - they lie.

Fine, Trump is a poopy head. Are you happy?

youtube.com/watch?v=FiFMts60ZIQ

it's because you don't know any. i've lived, worked and drank with people of all races. They're all the fucking same. Some bad, some good, some terrible.

Except your a dumb fuck because the numbers dont add up. Do you really think half of voters in America are uneducated and white. Also don king supports trump

>citation needed

The only thing to do is have people turn out en masse to draw dicks on the ballot papers. You can't seriouslly be expected to pick between Shillary and Blumpkin. It's like picking the niggerdick thats about to assrape you

here this map is more accurate.
the cities full of uneducated minorities.

so far it's been about 12% of republicans who have voted for trump.

>don king supports trump
one more reason to vote for Hillary.

naw, his brand is more valuable than ever. These fucking lemmings will save up for years to visit their heros shitty hotels now.

the largest bloc on welfare in America are whites in the south.

you've thrown your lot in with them.

She supports muslims and spread of isis is tied to her and obama

He hasn't lied or contradicted himself at all.

I bet you get all your information from CNN.

I still get surprised that people are this dumb. It seems to me people just vote for the guy with the most confidence. Trump clearly has no idea what's going on. He didn't even know about brexit until it was happening. He denied there was a drought in California even though that's completely objectively false.
It's like he just follows his emotions and people chimp out over it. He didn't even write a single line of any of his books. I like some of his positions, but Jesus people, this man is an idiot.

This exactly. There's not much he could do worse than she's already done. You don't get second chances when millions of lives are at stake.

>being alt-right
>15-20
>elect glorious Trump
>lose internet speeds
>lose porn
>lose weed dealers
>knock on the door from fbi regarding the cp you thought you hid well enough
>work out a deal to "volunteer" for armed forces to drop charge
>either patrol Mexico for 5 years or stack bricks in Ukraine for 5
Oops. Talk about short-sided. You signed yourself up for conscription, faggots.

>worked and drank with people of all races
if by "races", you mean niggers, you have my
"coon"dolences when one of your monkey-pals
inevitably chimps out on "eebil YT" . good luck, dummy.

you're a paid shill, clearly. she hasn't done anything to put millions of lives at stake, faggot.

>He denied there was a drought in California even though that's completely objectively false.

he owns stock in Brawndo

>I don't know what he'll do

He'll execute and carry out the laws passed by Congress. Your average peasant doesn't seem to understand that is what a president does. Their job isn't to swoop in, change everything somehow, and save the world. It's very simple. Congress makes the laws, and the executive branch carries them out.

176 reasons why Donald Trump should not be President:

thescene.com/watch/gq/176-reasons-donald-trump-shouldn-t-be-president?source=player_scene_logo

Donald Trump is a direct reflection of the American populace. Voting doesn't work when uninformed, race-baiting, emotionally-charged toddlers tick the ballots for another uninformed, race-baiting, emotionally-charged toddler.

Goodbye the only policies that are just barely staving off the worst of the effects of global warming, and America shall embody the very thing that has been consuming it all along, a mediocre reality show.

fuck, i can name a dozen off the top of my head.

i love how his supporters claim hillary is so much less trustworthy. Trump has even more scandals at his hands and over 50% of his claims have been debunked as lies.
Not a fan of hillary either, but at least there is some control on what she is doing.

youtube.com/watch?v=pqHzwdmU3Sg

lol get cucked cuck

>watches open
>smokes were
>has cp
>no job since FBI can just show up whenever

90% of liberals

politicususa.com/2016/02/27/trump-freedom-press-not-people.html

youtube.com/watch?v=JcmiHx5Yf2I

>the largest bloc on welfare in America are whites in the south.
>you've thrown your lot in with them
I'd rather see whites get the benefits rather than ungrateful niggers who are never satisfied
with the amount of gibsmuhdats they're given.

>trump promising shitty manufacturing jobs
>all trump supporters are employed

something just doesn't seem right about your logic, nitwit.

Not reading that shit. Let me guess

>he's a meany head
>he wants to secure our open border, and that's RACIST, and it makes me feel good inside to be able to call someone racist.
>etc. . . . .

yes, and whatever doesn't get shut down he's going to drown in lawsuits.

>cant type
>in math class
>super conservative

Remember Nimblefag, that shill money isn't going to buy you out of the military. Being a traploving fag won't either now.

youtube.com/watch?v=kSE-XoVKaXg

Does he even realize that he's lying or is he just senile?

there's no open border, retard

>Bumpity-bump!

oh.

so you're literally one of the 8th grade dropouts, the racists, the bigots who support trump.

how clinically-fascinating...

gotta love that americans actually want to be put back into the factories that we sent to 3rd world countries to get rid of

>Is so retarded he has manufacture slander against the "other side" in lieu of an actual argument

News flash: Everyone in America is getting fucked on all sides.

>the presidency is not that important
Actually it is really important. The next president will nominate at least 2 supreme court justices, shaping the balance of power in the supreme court for a generation. The president now has massive powers of executive orders. The commander in chief, can send massive amounts of troops anywhere for a short period of time (i forget, like 90 days) before OCngress needs to approve. Shit, whole wars can be waged in that time with todays technology.
Yes, Trump could do a whole lot of damage as President, without the support of Congress

You don't watch porn then? You psychopathic cretin. Keep your repressed sexual rage to yourself, faggot.

hes going to put a conservitive justice on the supreme court, that alone should want you to vote for him.

maybe the chemicals from wearing 3 pounds of fake tan every day fucked up his brain

yeah, meanwhile manufacturing won't even look the same in 10-15 years. good riddance, i say

we need re-education and training now.

Oh really?
thefederalist.com/2016/09/16/clinton-foundation-spent-6-percent-charitable-grants-2014/

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> literally one of the 8th grade dropouts, the racists, the bigots who support trump
Go twirl your tongue in Hill's twat, you fucking libtarded limp-wrist

Not to mention lots of the things he says are false. Then he bases positions and policy on them and tries to get people to believe it based on falsehoods. Maybe he knows he's doing this, maybe he's just an idiot. Either way we're fucked.

>thefederalist

oh yeah, that's not a biased site at all. why not just post a meme like every trump faggot?

Trump is a liberal you fucking idiot. My goodness...can you even tie your shoes?

KEK.

People change their minds. Are not ok with that? If you aren't, then how are you ok with Hillary?

Whats worse is that Murrica has not seen any real decline in manufacturing. We have sent many factory oversees, thats how economies, labor markets and competition works.

BUt US manufacturing output is at an all time high and is growing. We just have more automated manufacturing now, so manufacturing sector employs far fewer people than it used to. Trump fags will deny this tho.

Name one crime she is guilty of and provide some proof at least.

>Implying trump will not do the same.

The problem is not with the individual, it is with politics as a whole, but you people will never see that, you're all small picture folks.

The trigger in this case was that you invoked Benghazi, and the only people who think this is a credible criticism of Hillary are alt-right morons who won't be swayed by logic or evidence, so there's no point in engaging them.

Shit, I just engaged. Eject!

pic related is what Trumpfags want

nice fedora m'lady

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yeah good point. and with AI and neural networks evolving rapidly, who knows where this will end. We need to embrace it now, not look backwards.

This coming from a guy who is literally posting while watching his wife get fucked by an aids ridden nigger.

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It was Bush doctrine to destabilize the military governments of the middle east tho.

yes really.

charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=16680

charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478

there's never any indication of where this bullshit comes from. luckey must be changing up the tactics.

>Resorting to name calling
>Being this retarded.

Suicide, consider it.

you learned English from Cred Forums and are currently being paid by Nimbleamerica to post this garbage. You're russian, aren't you.

This is pretty accurate but I'm still voting for Clinton. She's just your average scum politician . He's your average scum car salesman who could Fuck up the entire country/world. I've got too much at stake here to take my chances.

>implying it was not already the case during the last decade

Washington Post.

Trump had to change all his views to pander to the only people stupid enough to vote for him.

it's a trump supporter thing apparently

i wonder if there will be fact checking in the debate...so far trump doesnt want it in

kek hilary did the same thing dumb nigga.

democrats are doing waaaay worse for the poor than republicans do.

>jewbook tier meme
>taking it seriously
kys

Oh look, feminist humor.

Basically anyone paying attention is doing this.

Hilary is more of the same old bullshit we've been dealing with. Trump is something new and frankly dangerous. How anyone thinks he's a good candidate for having the nuclear launch codes is beyond me.

fixed

well that was easy

'My view is correct and everyone else is wrong' - Everyone ever

really? she changed parties?

>that title
Do you idiots actually buy this propaganda bs?

Another thing that pisses me off is people thinking that there are no jobs. There are plenty of jobs. It's just that 50% of Americans want a fancy degree in some intellectual field that our economy won't support. We need plumbers, electricians, truck drivers, et c. Then conservatives have you believe this and blame liberals for destroying jobs.

Here's the thing though. Even if he absolutely crushes Hillary and makes her look retarded by every objective standard, the Hilltards and Media will still say she won. Then again, she could sodomize an infant to death the whole time and the same people would defend it.

yeah,. she started as republican back in the 70s.

>democrats are doing waaaay worse for the poor than republicans do.
are you really that stupid? Even donnie knows better than that

Donald trump is a borderline fascist

>Interview 83 educated guys who have good points
>Number 84 is literally retarded

>That's the one the media uses... not biased at all.

Your low energy does not belong on this board.

your mixing up hillary and trump

google.com/amp/nypost.com/2015/04/26/charity-watchdog-clinton-foundation-a-slush-fund/amp/?client=ms-android-att-us

Nope

Not certain but I'm pretty sure I read a thing that said he wasn't allowed to run his company or profit from it during his term. Like I said I'm not sure so anyone can feel free to prove/disprove

epic fail

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you mean the 60's when she was kid.

>By the spring of 1968 -with the civil rights and anti-Vietnam War movements raging around America, 21 year-old Hillary volunteered for Democrat Eugene McCarthy's presidential campaign.

yeah, really, who knows. it's completely up in the air at this point what he will do, what he won't do, what he'll be allowed, etc when president.

Clinton has done the exact same thing. The only thing she's ever been consistent on is support for unnecessary wars.

funny how Hillary supporters think this is real.

are you trolling or psychotic?

sure kid

youtube.com/watch?v=eFQhw3VVToQ

an opinion piece. how fredorable of you.

Wait is this hilary spain thing true at all? did I fucking miss something?

This is why most Hillary supporters vote for her
> Hurr durr! It'll piss daddy off! Hurrr duuuur!

Yes, Trump has retarded fans too. But Hillary fans will defend literally anything she does. She could launch nukes at new York city (assuming she wins), and these retards will still defend her.

it's a nonsense conspiracy theory. the dickweed shill is trying to press it out there, meanwhile none of the images have any link info in them.

Leftie fags are trying really, really hard.

We must have scared the shit out of you.

Washington Post.

I am a Clinton supporter and she would lose my support if any of you faggots actually had any sort of proof of her "crimes". All I'm seeing is propaganda, on both sides.

>google.com/amp/nypost.com/2015/04/26/charity-watchdog-clinton-foundation-a-slush-fund/amp/?client=ms-android-att-us
your article is a blatant lie. It says Charity Navigator refused to rate the Clinton foundation. The truth is they refused to rate the Trump Foundation. Check it for yourself.

charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=16680

The real problem is you can actually predict what Hillary is going to do, and it's nothing for the good.

Where's the link then because i can't find anything fag lord.

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youtube.com/watch?v=wAeB_yl2E90

Suck a dick faggot.

That's exactly what they said about Obama and he hasn't done anything that horrible.

Sure witch

Explain away the blackberries.

> The whole Middle East/Syria thing isn't that horrible

>charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=16680
Wow, that seems like a pretty legit charity actually. I was beginning to believe the propaganda...

I know exactly what Trump will do. **DAY OF THE ROPE!**

no u

youtube.com/watch?v=FiFMts60ZIQ

>Not knowing what the trans-pacific-partnership is

>being this new.

I don't think it's a conspiracy theory, I heard them talking about it on the radio this morning, but I doubt it's what the titles say it is.

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youtube.com/watch?v=cVpb4z2t12A

youtube.com/watch?v=UgLMRmnclfw

No u!

Shit happens, you can't blame a president for everything, particularly the middle east. It takes years for shit to brew over there. Plus, I['m fine with letting the middle east handle its own shit. Even a rise of ISIS is better than american troops occupying everywhere over there. Fuck that.

Yeah, I just don't give a fuck about the middle east really.

Even if he loses...

I mean, you've had lefties chimping right the fuck out during the entire election cycle. The alt-right hasn't massacred any one this year.... because we want to win the election.

After the election tho?

RWDs will come a knocking.

That ship was loaded up and sailed before Obama even got into office...destabilizing military dictatorships because they would certainly become democracies if we just gave people the chance...that was Bush/Cheney bullshit.

The largest bloc of people killed by the police are whites.

also the largest group of criminals are white, as well as most of the mass shooters. what's your point?

How cretinous are you? Just because people don't want Trump, they must want Shillary? Way to prove what a fucking idiot you are. There are countless examples to compare Flump and Shillary as the shittiest politicians that, judging by everyday discourse on threads like these and in the mainstream in America, are exactly the fates America deserves.

honestly this is what bugs me the most about this election.

It has given certain types of people, mostly people with a lot of anger, racism, and general bigotry, some validation.

And I'm worried what that validation could lead to.

yeah, the man whos said that he could murder a guy at times square and his followers wouldnt care have the less fanatical supporters

one thing is for sure, the sjw's will be more empowered with a trump win than a clinton. more money will flow into their coffers, they'll get more action more support.

The problem Obama faced was neither the scotus or congress supported him. He wanted to do tyranny. But you can't do it unless it's plausible to succeed. That's where Hillary can succeed. She gets a scotus pick and it's possible(tho I haven't looked into the actual likelihood) that congress could swing blue. Plus the existing D congress members are sucking her dick so hard it's raw at this point. She will get to do whatever she feels like and she knows it. With trump? Scotus pick doesn't matter as he isn't trying to do anything unconstitutional like Hillary is. So it would fall on congress for him to do anything and neither side wants what he's selling in that respect. If he wins it's simply to keep us from falling into a fascist police state with no bill of rights protection. That's why Im voting trump. Not that I like him. I just like her way less. And before you say nuke, the president can't just start nuking people and in this day and age wars between major economic superpowers don't start over hurt feelings. It's not the 1500s anymore.

I hope to god, when Trump becomes prsident he outlaws Democrats and gather all you fucking libtard socialist cucks into the fema camps.

why dont you move to saudi arabia?

Notice how he's the one who said that. Trump. The arrogant bastard in cheif. It's all bluster. Find a fan saying that and I'll buy it.

Enjoy you totalitarian regime americunts.

Your politics are shit as they are, things change but will stay the same.
You were retards, you ll remain retards

>>Interview 83 educated guys who have good points
>>Number 84 is literally retarded
>>That's the one the media uses... not biased at all.

>nukes
Apparently you dont understand that the president of the US has the power to launch nukes unilaterally. You think we have time to wait for congress in a conflict?
>With trump? Scotus pick doesn't matter as he isn't trying to do anything unconstitutional
Trump has shown a massive disregard for free speech...wants to expand libel laws, shut down 'parts of the internet' etc etc.

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And life goes on. Contrary to popular opinion, America has already fucked itself into many financial and social corners, corrupt to the core. Trump and Hillary are pissing in a sea of piss.

Still the best country in the fucking world, faggot. We'll survive Clinton and we'd survive Trump.

America is also now one of the longest running governments in the world. Only the UK beats us by a few years and some shit hole no one's ever heard of or cares about.

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Maybe. A Trump win might have the opposite effect. Maybe people won't be afraid to disagree with women and minorities anymore. Maybe they'll stop crucifying innocent people for saying things. Trump has demonstrated that public figures can succeed by saying fuck you to sjws, and I'm not sure that is such a bad thing. I think sjws are as responsible for the rise of Trump as any white supremacist group.

how fucking ignorant of politics does one have to be to become a "lukewarm trump supporter."

So trump is gonna sell us to Russia and Hillary is gonna sell us to Spain.

Well we had a good run,

Can't refute it, better just say he's an alt right trumper. Go back to Tumblr faggot.

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Trump is responsible only for himself. If he's that easily influenced and prepared to throw caution to the wind, he has no place in the presidency.

he's already done that. the genie is already out of the bottle. people have always been able to say whatever they wanted, they were just afraid of the consequences from their neighbors. no police will ever come to your house for something you say (that isn't a threat, obviously). it never was the case.

if you weren't so fucking afraid of what other people thought of you, you'd be able to speak your mind more often.

trump made you less afraid, win or lose. we've a;ready seen the good and bad of it.

you can't put shit back in the donkey.

No but she does take money in turn for favors

Just go to pol and youll find tons of fanatic Trump supporters that would still tongue his crusty asshole if he so killed a toddler in front of them

Wow, thats some horrible shit. But par for the course, read up on how he screwed investors/bond holders/contractors in his casinos while making off with literal millions

trump will be the king of that. the only reason he hasn't is because he's never been in a position to do it.

Trump just gave money in return for people giving him favors. Why do you think he wouldnt profit from the other side of that if he has the chance?

true, in fact he's probably thinking it's high time the roles were reversed.

Its refreshing to see actual debate on Cred Forums. I go to Cred Forums and get horribly depressed that everyone is that retarded.

No, you move to saudi arabia nigger lover
hope ya the first to be rounded up

Cred Forums is a containment board, youre not supposed to go there if you arent severely mentally challenged

"Best" is completely relative. The UK and Canada are better in many, many ways. Though I suppose if using trillions of dollars toward bombs instead of healthcare and better education (which everyone likes to give lip service as the most important thing, while not acting that way in America) for its own people is "best", you do you, comrade. :^)

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stop posting shill, it's not working.

you literally want saudi arabia, so just move there

I'm far more worried about Hillary than I am about Trump. Those supreme court seats she'll get to fill will allow her to destroy the bill of rights and the republicans can't stop her nominations forever. If the the democrats take congress too we're fucked worse than a 10/10 blonde with big tits on the wrong side of Chicago during a chimp out.

i've traveled all over. the UK doesn't even have freedom of speech and canada exists because we let it.

Just trying to provide the facts.

Washington Post.

The thing people often forget is that clinton is very much pro-establishment and because of this, won't change much. If she spends four years impacting nothing, the next election is going to come along and with how this election was, politicians will realise that change is what americans want. We only lose 4 years to "roll again" on our presidential candidates

provide a link then, shill. you can't.

I have

Trump managed ok as he drove his casinos into the ground. It's just everyone else who got totally screwed. His investors, his employees and the all the contractors and suppliers that were dumb enough to deal with him. He is NOT the type of person we need leading our country.

>The investors who bought into his IPO at $10/share exited with shares less than $1. In the same time, investors in Harrah's casinos doubled their money; MGM and Starwood investors quadrupled their money.

>While MGM and Starwood were making profits of 400% Trump lost 90%.

addictinginfo.org/2016/06/11/this-is-how-trump-made-millions-while-running-his-casinos-into-the-ground/

marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-was-a-stock-market-disaster-2015-07-22

msn.com/en-us/money/companies/as-its-stock-collapsed-trump’s-firm-gave-him-huge-bonuses-and-paid-for-his-jet/ar-AAgWORF?li=BBnbfcN

msn.com/en-us/news/politics/usa-today-exclusive-hundreds-allege-donald-trump-doesn’t-pay-his-bills/ar-AAgR9h6?li=BBnb7Kz

lawnewz.com/high-profile/we-investigated-donald-trump-is-named-in-at-least-169-federal-lawsuits/

US has shit tier education, yet expects to remain a superpower in the following years.

US has a health care system that get you bankrupt if you get sick

US companies produce everything in china yet expect growth.

The only think keeping you in power americunts are your shitty world police attitude that wont last long

trump is pro-corporate establishment. i'm not sure this is any better, in fact i think it's much worse.