Okay Cred Forums, what is your flat out honest, biased or unbiased, absolutely unadulterated opinion on the Nazi agenda?

Okay Cred Forums, what is your flat out honest, biased or unbiased, absolutely unadulterated opinion on the Nazi agenda?

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I'm a spic so I guess either way I'd sit this one out
Except when Trump gets elected I am building that wall
I am 6'5" spic so I will be laying the bricks on the top

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Hitler created a new currency that jews couldn't sabotage and force the Germans into slave labor with. So jew controlled countries bombed Germany to hell and tortured Germans into confessing to genocide

i also should have added *neo nazi* agenda as well

If only he could've turned his hatred onto mosquitoes, he could've been a saint and I would've moved to Germany. Meats and cheeses for breakfast, count me in,

> neo nazy
Cosplay.

It was a legit plan. I mean look at race relations today. So what if it was morally deplorable. the world today would probably be a better place if they won. Its like ripping off a bandied. get all the evil out of the way at once and get on with life. Globalism cannot be stopped.

I feel that they were just kind of incompetent.

Like, lemme be a total sociopath here for a second. Do you have any idea what a waste of money it was to kill 6 million people? I mean, even if you think that jews are awful humans, and if you described them as only having say... 15% of the economic utility of a non-jew. Still, killing that many was nothing but a giant money sink. Germany spent money raising those jews. Every human that grows up in a country constitutes an investment, all the money that was spent on them through various government resources that allowed them to live and grow. And when you kill them, you are just throwing away all the productivity they can't produce anymore.

If hitler really wanted to fearmonger for political purposes - he could have STILL done it without killing them. Politicians in this country fearmonger about black people and muslims all the time, and gain plenty of political support doing so, without killing them en masse.

And if hitler REAAAALLY wanted to breed better people through eugenics - he could have just chemically sterilized the jews, no need to kill them.

It was just stupid.

>globalism cannot be stopped

someone gets it

Oh and as for my opinion... the nazis were the only organization in history to achieve a functional form of socialism and hitler was also an animal lover so if you forget all the Jewish propaganda around the nazis they are actually really good people

>believes 6 gorillion
lol wow man.

were really good people*

OP asked for my opinion, that is what it is. I don't really give a damn that he killed 6 million jews on moral grounds, but on economic grounds it was rock stupid.

I try telling these assholes that and they just screech "Marxist!" at me all the livelong day......

I watched American History X for the first time a few weeks ago, and i can't get the images out of my mind. His reasons were so justifiable for being a neo nazi, and honeslty I feel like if a non white killed one of my family that may be the path i would stray towards out of pure anger; strange sensation to feel and play with in my day dreams seeing as I'm not racist.

He didn't kill 6 million jews. You realize that was a third of the jews in the world right? Plus jews could freely move to Palestine between 1933 and 1940 AND keep their wealth.a few hundred thousand jews died in camps because the Allies bombed every German city to fucking hell and the citizens were obviously going to let the jews starve before they themselves did

I agree with Hitler's actions to defend Germans in Poland, and to rise against the French who were expecting absurd reparations for WW1. The west unfairly judged Hitler's Germany, and on the eastern front, Hitler was a liberator from the brutal communists.
The west attacked the wrong enemy, Stalin was far worse in terms of death tolls.
For those concerned about the 6M Jews that were allegedly killed in concentration camps, Britain killed far more German civilians in their bombings of Dresden.
The Greatest Story Never Told really changed my mind on Hitler.

If a non white person killed one my family members i'd be kind of pissed that somebody killed one of my family members. I wouldn't think about it as "a non white" killed one of my family members.

the best for your own country is by default hated by other countries

Why are you trying to convince me it wasn't 6 million? That is besides my point.

Hitler literally got people to kill 6 MILLION people for him. Love him or hate him, he was doing something amazing to get that kind of results...

It's called bureaucracy.

Call it what you will. It fuckin worked.

they were most deff not concomitant. they lost that war due to bad luck. they were master gamblers but lost at every turn. their arsenal was vastly superior too. One panzer was worth 5 Sherman tanks but the allies always had 6.

wel he repeatedly told them to go away but they were
>whachoo gonna do goyy kill us? HAHA!

I wasn't speaking to the war, but i think he just made a few mistakes during his wars. Or well, he made tons of mistakes, but if he didn't make some of the first mistakes, he would have been able to largely win. Like, if he stayed away from the coast opposite to britain, i think shit would not have snowballed.

Once he realized the international community was going apeshit he COULD ONLY attempt to take it all at once. But if he had been smarter about his initial targets he could have taken some land, then consolidated, taken some more land, and consolidated, ect.

Because the Holocaust story allows globalist bankers to do whatever the Fuck they want to worthless people like us and the only way they will ever be shot by firing squads is if we lose this bullshit WW2 narrative so that they can't cry "Antisemitism waaah!!"

Dude, the forces that be are going to do whatever they want to anyway.

You think if the majority of americans thought the jews were evil that we WOULDN'T still give billions in aid to israel? We're fuckin' allies with saudia arabia - a country that is basically ISIS that made it. And we're allies with them for the same reason we're allies with israel - it suits our political agenda in the region.

You, or us hating jews is not gonna make any fucking difference in the world.

He went about it the wrong way. His ideals were perfect, to create a more advanced civilization by breeding the most intelligent humans together, pursuing technology as a main objective, and thriving from it. But he then told the world that one race is lesser than another, and thats where his ideals faulted. The human race needs to stick together to survive, to develope new technologies, to thrive. When we start segregating one another that is when progress slows, possibly even haults.

I want to give a long answer but I'm on my phone. Short answer: it's not about hating jews, I don't hate jews, but the global elites (who happen to be jews) dismiss criticism or "conspiracy theories" as antisemitism. Until their crimes surface they will continue to rule. And if the majority of Americans knew how evil they are... yes... just as Germany deported the jews, we would deport the elitists in Washington. Or all bankers IMO

If Hitler was truly efficient, there would have been no survivors to speak of it.. because the Jews would be dead.
Many of the actual deaths in concentration camps were due to Typhus.
Zyklon B was used to treat Typhus, there's no evidence it was used to gas Jews.

Problem was the Jews did not see this idea and wanted to keep their own little group of religious ideals and not integrate into society buy chose to leech from it instead. They still do and it i's to the detriment of others. We can see how they are today with Palestine where a little bit of land has become a lot of land. Where Jews go disharmony follows them. There is a reason they have been hated by almost all races throughout history.

Yes, israel DOES call antisemitism any time you oppose them in any way. That's a real thing, and it is annoying.

But knowledge of it helps us in no way, it changes nothing.

And assuming that all the rich bankers were jews - which i don't know, but i'm severely guessing they're not - the way our political process works, our government cares about their MONEY not their religion/ethnicity. And nothing is going to be done about them because they're rich. In fact, even if everyone knew it was all the jew bankers fault for everything, their richness would COMPLETELY PROTECT THEM. Because our government is completely corrupt and money rules.

based Henry Ford

lel now germoney is importing BIG group of people with hostile religious ideals who will not integrate into society but chose to leech from it instead

Actually they used a lot of the interred as slave labor - and worked them to death. Efficient if you ask me.

>breeding the most intelligent humans together
>told the world one race is lesser
>Jews
>race
And just for shits and gigs what happens when one race IS just collectively less intelligent?

I agree with your conclusion, but the coast opposite to Britain was a strategic point that he needed to control to stop earlier attacks from the Brits. Allowing the overpowered French and British troops to evacuate at Dunkirk, in hindsight, was a mistake, although it was originally intended as an act of peace. Giving the British the opportunity to retreat was interpreted as a blunder, instead Hitler's generals should have forced them to surrender and take prisoners with which to negotiate for a treaty with Britain. Hitler then could have taken out the Communists on the eastern front.

It's not efficiency to put steve jobs in a labor camp. Spending resources to make skilled labor and then forcing them to produce unskilled labor is a waste of potential productivity.

Regardless there's no point believing Jewish propaganda, no matter what your views on economic elites

Yep. It's happening all over again. Sooner or later though Islam and Judaism will meet in the middle and when that happens I think having the Jews who run the US might not be so bad.

Ironically if the Nazis had won, Islam would have been wiped out already and in no position at all to threaten anyone.

I'm taking them at their word. Not believing it would be useful if you could do something with that knowledge. Please believe me that if knowledge of it COULD change anything, i would be right there with you. Hell, i'd pretend to believe JUST so that we stop giving money to israel, because i want them to stop raping the shit out of palestine on my tax dollars. But since we can't, since it doesn't make any difference, i see no harm in taking them at their word.

I don't know considering that its said that hitler admired sandniggers and pitied that germoney'ans aren't like them. Dunno if its true or not

Once the Reich targeted undesirables, they quickly became a liability. They needed to be corralled, controlled, and then liquidated in an economically efficient way. Working them to death was reasonable solution.

Who needs Steve jobs when you have Vernor Von Braun and Hans Kammler?

I really love the economic angle to the genocide thing, because it totally side steps the whole racism thing. Like "Sure, sure, the jews are scum, but the state invested ALOT of money into that scum, and just killing them is like setting billions of dollars in productivity on fire."

The more I learn about it, the less I hate it. Some of it is just a bit stupid (politically), but the majority makes sense. I don't love it, and I definitely don't think it would work nowadays.

Opinion: indifferent

But googles... wait that makes sense.
And at the end of the day, Free market capitalism>Nationalist Socialism>Communism.
Capitalism is essentially natural selection to economic problems.
A company which practices racist hiring policies will miss out on hiring the best candidates, and a company which practices affirmative action will be weakened by having weak staff. In a free market, judging individuals based on their competencies is the fairest and most efficient way.
I admire Hitler for defending Germany from unfair WW1 reparations, and socialism is essential for funding war. But capitalism is better.

He was basically right on the role of women as loving mother's and the idea of an ethnically homogeneous state. He's proved to be the only person to actually fight a war against Marxism in the last 130 odd years. I don't believe in the Soviet propaganda myth of a Holocaust of six million Jews not for a second that has been very clearly exaggerated.

They didn't need to corral them or some shit. Just do a bunch of propaganda against the "jewish communities" and "jew families" and "violence in the inner-jew-cities" like we do with black people. Wouldn't have made a difference practically speaking, and it would have been just as useful for stirring up political support for hitler. The jews keep doing their skilled labor where ever they're at, and everybody is happy, except for the jews.

And i was just using steve jobs as an example. Clearly he would have more utility owning a business and innovating new technologies than if he just works in a labor camp. He would ADD LESS to the overall productivity of the country to just be shoved into a labor camp. Thus forcing him to do that is wasting the resources of the country.

>Pretty much this but it has more to do with globalist bankers than Jews.

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that's a very selective list and a very vast use of a jew concept

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There is no way to completely stop globalism, because the world should be global when Antichrist will install his /worldwide kingdom.

However, it is not necessary to bring it closer intentionally, developing globalism projects.

Converge with it as a socialist movement for the proletariat and the fight against capitalism/sionism, I dont share nationalism, racism and communism hate.

you can't be that dumb?

>muh 6 gorillion

Hitler admired the Muslim troops. Hitler had Muslim SS units, with Imams and Mullahs.

Not to mention the deaths attributed to starvation and other disease due to lack of supplies late into the war when the Germans were being bombarded from all sides.

history never lies

they messed with the wrong communist
>stalin

>Nazi agenda
Only a high schooler could read the Nazi crap and think it makes sense.

Once you target a group with propaganda, you risk alienating them and creating 5th columns. In the Reich's case, those fifth columns were already in place with commies and jews.

Not to mention the Asians, Africans and even in small numbers Jews in the Wehrmacht/SS. A very small number of these Jews were even given the Iron Cross.

There are only 2 types of Nazis. Nazis already in the grave, and Nazis in the pile next to the grave.

Sure thing commie.

Denying Jewish propaganda is the first step in stopping the funding. But you're wrong about Palestine, they're subhuman scum. Fuck Palestine. They could co-exist seeing as they've been dominated in the past. Fuck Palestine.
I'm a pro-Israeli Nazi.

Germany wouldn't have gotten as far as it did without Stalin's help. In fact, Hitler's buddy Stalin even did him a solid and invaded Poland with him.

Nice argument.

>implying that the allies as a whole weren't communists in nature.
At the start of the war Hitler allied himself with Stalin in an effort to deter any British/French involvement.

The whole point is to alienate them. But that doesn't mean there is going to be like... some real problem created from doing that.

We're in a nazi thread. There are racist people EVERYWHERE in here. We've alienated the shit out of black people in this country. The black people are not rising up and overthrowing the government or some shit. Yeah, sometimes there are some protests when a black person gets shot by the cops, but that STILL isn't overthrowing the government. Despite all the shit we put black people through in this country, they are still just trying to make a living here. And we've got rich and productive black people DESPITE all the shit we're doing to them.

Hitler could have done the EXACT same thing with the jews.

By being a pro-Israel Nazi you can't be a Nazi. That's like being a Nazi, but being for globalisation.

Jews are smart. Do you know how many communist Jews there have been running attempted revolutions? Check out the German Revolutions of 1919.

Hitler wouldn't have put Operation Barbarossa into action if Stalin wasn't already planning a Western expansion (which he preparing for).

>Denying Jewish propaganda is the first step in stopping the funding

No it isn't. The government doesn't give israel money because the PEOPLE like israel. We HATE saudia arabia and we give them billion dollar blow jobs every year.

And i didn't make any statement about palestine, i merely said _I_ want israel to stop raping the shit out of them, and would be willing to use underhanded tactics to get them to stop, if such tactics existed.

Which they don't.

Haavara Agreement.

Sure the actual number can be smaller, but not significally. There were at least 3 million jews. Nazis killed more than 20 million soviet people why even care about 3-6 of their victims being jewish.

Where that allmighty jewish propoganda of holocaust? 6 million isn't far from 3. It's not like murican propoganra paints victims of stalinism, when declared 60 million of victims in reality appeared to be only 2,6 million. That's how you shamelessly lie for propaganda purposes

Not just that revolution, but the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the Civil Rights Movement, BLM today, and late 20th Century Feminism.

Honest answer is white males are the devil. They are demons, evil, evil demons that do nothing but kill and conquer and twist good people and bend them to their will. There is nothing good about white males at all. For years it was white men killing white men, then they decided they had to go out and find people of color to kill too. Whites are blood thirsty demon spawn. There is something wrong with them mentally. Like truly something wrong in their heads and hearts.

I read how you nutty white boys talk about suiciding yourselves. You look up to murderers and act like its a game or cute. You are the only people who do this. I come here only to read up on you people and see how mentally fucked up you are. You like little girls, you are racists, you like murder, you hate women, all of you post pics of your dicks because you are all gay.

All of you are so fucked up, and its all just how white males are. Evil, twisted albino monkeys. You are the true virus to the world.

remember the end of the war, capitalist Europe set a iron wall against the URSS,
In germany all socialists, communist and anarchists were prosecuted by the SS.
Hitler made a lot of enemies in his madness.

Nice bait.

Did you just compared great historical events of french and october revolution with whining sjw?

Source on the death count of Stalin being falsified?

Yes, they're all funded by the same people behind the scenes. They may be different in nature, but pushed and funded by the same people.

the black book of the communism was written by a philofascist italian

Well, the EU is based from the Soviet Union and the UN is based on the communist manifesto.

It oppressed my country just because we have blue eyes and blond hair. Hitler was an egomaniac. Many innocent countrymen of mine died because of that. My grandmother ate tulipbolbs to survive the hungerwinter.

But on the internet I enjoy the "hitler did nothing wrong" meme.

What country are you from?

The Netherlands

There are many historians who actually worked with NKVD statistics and secret documentations. But do you really believe their work would be translated to english?

Zemskov V.N. Сталин и народ 2014
Zemskov V.N. Заключенные, спецпоселенцы, ссыльнопоселенцы, ссыльные и высланные: статистико-географический аспект 1991
Luneev V.V. реступность XX ВЕКА. 1997
Danilov V.P. Коллективизация: как это было 1989

He was right, but he went about it the wrong way.

Well, if someone wanted it really wanted them translated I'm sure there would be ways of going about that.

maybe it would be translated someday, but only by enthusiasts. Historical truth isn't that popular as trending hate of stalinism.

Seems to be moving along, everything appears to be falling into place and lining up well, if you're one of them, you should be pleased and optimistic. Things aren't looking so good for the rest of us, though.

You really missed the whole movie.

What an idiot

Suuure you wouldn't.

Hitler and the Nazis are directly responsible for the shitty state that Germany is in today.

>opinion on the nazi agenda?
I find it funny that the left treats nazism as though it was a relationship that went horribly wrong and held so much potential. People on the right like Nock and a whole host of right leaning intellectuals could have told you from the beginning that socialism/collectivism, in all its many forms, is doomed to fail. Any time the state tries to create a new society or man, it's going to fail since it is counter to the human spirit. People and some historians tend to look at nazism in a vacuum, questioning how this ever could have happened. It's very simple really, Germanic culture starting with Schopenhauer and even political leaders like the Bismarck were the fore bearers of at least Germanic collectivism. Julien Benda in his book, "the treason of the intellectuals", said that for the first time in 2,000 years the intellectuals had sided with the people who gave Socrates the hemlock. Intellectuals at the time had been in favor of the strong man with an iron will. Nazism gets a lot of crap , as it should, but the other fascists of the time throughout Europe (Spain, Italy, Belgium ect) mostly get off without as much as a side note that they also had dictators. But people seem to have an intellectual blind spot where they talk about the extermination as if killing mass amounts of people in the name of socialism was only a fluke. When you surrender your individuality and freedom to the state this is what happens. But my biggest issue is that we like to denounce national socialism as the true horror of the 20th century because they were the losers in the war. It's much harder to come to terms with the idea that the true monster, the soviets, who killed many more people that the nazis on orders of magnitude, pretty much escape much scorn. Robert Conquest did a great job examining the true horror of the soviets.

They have a sense of community and family. I am sure that had Nazism survived Islam would have been allowed a foothold in Europe or to get as out of control as it has.

What Nazi agenda? It's just a bunch of fucking neckbeards with no lives.

you completly miss the most important part of any historical event - politics and economy.
The rise of Hitler cannot be explained solely by culture and heritage.
The basis of nazism lies is contradictions between german factions of monopolistic capital (presented by concerns of the chemical and electrical industry and by so-called new industries and Elbrus cadets). Their diverge interests led to the creation of Weimar Republic with tons of social confrontations and unresulted problems. In fear of communist revolution bourgeoisie began to finance the propagandists anticommunist circles, whose task was to fool the workers and prevent the revolution. They were afraid that workers would blame them for all the devastation and misery they put Germany through, so they design a jewish boogeyman. Later Hitler with the help of bourgeoisie rose to power within democratic institutions. That's how nazism was born.
In reality it's just an anticommunist plot of big industrialists with various selfish interests. Cultural background (such as german meme of the third way, Nietzsche and Schopenhauer works) are not that important.

Nicely dressed up bullshit born out of a bad mix of Italian fascism and communism. Spiced up with a load of racism.

12 lost years for Germany and ruined reputation for an eternity.

Traitors to the German legacy.

You mean radical leftism is responsible?

Their uniforms were on point too