During my year in Afghanistan with the Army I saw very horrific things. Its hollowed the human spirit from within...

Great job going overseas to 'protect your country'. I'm sure America would've been destroyed if you didn't kill those kids.

> smooth faced boys
> 16-17
Not in Afghan my friend, at about 12 they have moustaches, and that's just the girls.

Fuck off sandnigger.

Man up

You are full of shit. Viet Nam 1967, came home fucked up, If you really have PTSD you would not be on Cred Forums talking about how you want to make a human connection. You would be avoiding as much contact with people that you could, and btw first line of treatment for ptsd is counseling, and you would have to almost be draged to it. Nice Bait

This website consist of kids and people who are really mentally disabled but think they aren't. Don't ask them to give you pity because they are scum of the internet and will laugh at you because they think they are better than you. Seek help from professionals

I've cheated on my wife several times. Pretty much as often as I can. I've been with hookers. I've been with swingers. I've been with several of her friends. On of her best friends swallows my cum regularly. I will never stop and don't feel guilty

Better them than you, right?

Are you me?

Black up and go for a drive.. the police will put an end to your suffering.

Fuck you you piece of shit.

> Joined Military
> Works Office
> Got Married

You literally fell for every meme going. And your your on Cred Forums.

Winner.

Op Delete this tread before you see how people react to you. its not nice FYI This isn't like the ol Cred Forums

I loled si hard

Fuck this guy, or fuck the guy who signed up knowing he'd have to shoot somebody then regretted it after having done it? Or fuck the system that pushed him down that pipeline?

Or fuck you, faggot?

Taking pride in taking another mans life is the sandnigger way you fool. You yank cunts are no different than them. Wait till 10 years time when waterboarding american citizens is common practice cause its the only way "to defeat the enemy".

pussy

I want to thank you for your service to start.

Are you talking to anyone about this? There are plenty of places you can go to vent and be heard and hear suggestions on how to handle these feelings. My father has ptsd from similar experiences and for a while it really stopped hium from living his life. I think he came to realize that he was doing a job and doesn't agree with that his actions were "right" but also sees that it's unchangeable now and that he still has the rest of his life to help the world grow rather than to crumble beneath the weight.

It's a hard trip, but lesser men have made it. Don't forget the human soul in you is exactly why you feel so bad over this. You've lost nothing, just misplaced an aspect of yourself. Hold on, OP.

i just had to get it off my chest, i know im going to get hate, but honestly i feel like not all of it is unwarranted.

Have you tried not being a massive faggot?

Not true. PTSD was only diagnosed after Nam.

spoken like a true degenerate. you ever heard nimrod's son by the pixies? might be your jam.

Oh fuck off. You did this to yourself. You decided joining the army was a good idea in the first place, and probably you ignored all the people around you that told you it's a bad idea.

Then it turned out you were forced to do things that you would never do on your own. Boo fucking hoo.

Go get a psychiatrist or a bowl of weed, I don't give a shit, and neither will most people here.

Life sucks bro
Smoke some weed

Try Band of Brothers network. Iraq, Afghan, DMZ... Our country is full of secret murders. You can talk to them about it there, but not here.

>1967
Get off the internet grandpa

I want you all to know what I am thinking at the moment...

I want to mount peoples heads on pikes, place them in front of my home for the whole world to see.
The faces of the dead frozen in time on the faces, fear, surprise, pain and agony. Their decapitated bodies strung up with their organs hanging from their waist, and the heat pouring out from their dead carcass creating steam. This is fucking beautiful to me. I can see it now. Miles of rotting heads, with maggots eating away at the flesh and eyes. Beautiful paradise.

This guy speaking the truth .

100% this. OP, you wont find any sympathy from me. You're probably a degenerate.

EDGE

OP you truly have my sympathy> I can only imagine the stress you have expierenced; with time all things get better. I strongly recommend smoking weed and finding something to do that makes you feel good, such as helping others. Life sucks man, good honorable people like yourself shouldn't have to suffer so.

My wife didn't really leave me. She is just taking a nap with her Boyfriend under my new patio.

People make complex answers to complex problems. There are reasons for literally everything that is. Just like how there's a reason you choose to attack people exposing their tender points when there's reallhy nothing productive to it.

I'm guessing one of your parents was too critical and/or held expectations for you that were never met.

That or you're dealing with some repressed sexual issue that you may not even be aware that you have ie; being molested as a child/self hating homosexual/interest in the incestuous/etc

...

Just have as much sex in uniform as you can.

Read the Yoga Vashistha ...

This is good advice OP. If you're the reading or academic type this may be a buttload of help. Hell, it would be even if you weren't

>good honorable people like yourself
Servicemen are neither good nor honourable. They kill people either because they are told to, or because they want to. That doesn't sound good or honourable to me.

>Take two viagra
>find some crystal meth
>Start masturbating
> do not stop until the pain is gone

REPEAT

may your maggots be many

that would make you almost 70 years old and posting on Cred Forums. Fuck right off, we weren't born yesterday

Not totally true I developed PTSD symptoms including involuntary adrenaline spikes and infinite thought loops reliving the scene and I was able to handle myself in public and communicate while going through an episode even though it was very uncomfortable. Distracting myself was key to putting the brakes on an episode.

Yeah you fucked up by agreeing to be a pawn in the war machine. If it makes you feel better some other soldier would've smoked them if it wasn't you.

Being a wagecuck office slave isn't gonna alleviate your guilt. Why don't you grow a pair and go into something that will actually help people. Maybe then you won't feel like such a shitpile (which you kind of are)

fucken underrated

Hey user internet hug.

I shot s 16 year old and tried to save him too in the line of duty.

Car came at me at 70 mph. Turns outnit was stolen by 2 gang bangers hugh on meth and drunk. They didnt see me cuz it was at 2300.

One survived other died from gun shot wound s theiugnthe neck and chest. We coulsnt save him.

I met a ranger when i was in pstient that killed a 4 yr old girl wigh a 240 in iraq.

Its ok user. I wake everyday feelin hallow. Its been 6 years since mine. I was an MP.

I have anwife and son now and my kid will never know what happened.

I smoke weed and drink most days. I stay in hshape though at the gym.

Ive been theough most all therapy the military had to offer for ptsd but nothin changes the facts. I was scared and i reacted. Now someone i never knew is dead becaus of me. I think about fzcing his family often and if they killed me id understand.

I have love for all veterans user. Plz hang on. Im sure you lost friends too like i have. Live for them. They dont get to so live because they cant.

I wouldn't worry about it , those guys would of celebrated in their village if they had shot you .

If they had wounded you and found you it would of been the flash of a ak74 that you would of last seen.

you mean Afghans like THESE.. fuck you for not killing more

youtube.com/watch?v=vOgThAyMpb4

Show us your dick

youre already in hell for killing a human.
this wasnt your war.

ITT: White school kids pretending they've been to a warzone.

You should try meditation

found the village idiot

>If they had wounded you and found you it would of been the flash of a ak74 that you would of last seen.

Or worse.
I mean, people die everyday from hunger, or crime. or any other stupid shit. why would you feel bad for shooting a fucker thats aiming a rifle at you?

This but do it in uniform

>Servicemen are neither good nor honourable. They kill people either because they are told to.

To believe something strong enough to put themselves in harms way

They follow orders despite revulsion

They endure it as long as it takes despite a desire to run away.

The kid did his duty, followed his commands and deserves to know he did the right thing. Yeah shit is bad and people stood up to the usa but that is not the fault of a loyal soldier and that blame can be placed on the leadership. He did his duty, let him have peace of mind.

>ps go fuck yourself

yes because we've never seen old people fag off like everyone else before Nam '67, am i right you little fur fag?

They teach you how to be machines. Then don't teach you how to be human again afterwards.

I have a friend who did 3 tours in Afghanistan. His gf left him when he went for third time. She made him choose.

He's told me some shit. It's not even bad in a kick-ass kind of way. It's just fucking sad and vulgar.

Mdma assisted therapy can help with the beingabitchasspussycunt

Worth a try

Fag

DARKNESS, IMPRISONING ME, ALL THAT I SEE.

...

You figured out how to use the mirror at last? Good job kid.

A guy told me the worse thing he saw was dead people and their loved ones cradling them with swollen eyes and a sadness so deep you can almost feel it in your own heart.

You sound like a great dinner guest LOL not really

lighten up bro, geez

Thank you for your service

Nice parroting of meaningless justification for someone who put on a uniform to go point guns at other people in the name of whatever government they believe in.

Any faggots who gets all PTSD ed by shooting some sandnigger kid in the face has some serious pussy issues.
If youre gonna get traumatized by every small things you're not fit to serve.

Fucking weak coward faggots I have no ckue why some of you even sign up to go over seas when you cant even handle killing a random stranger who was gonna SHOOT YOUR ASS

Do yourself and your mates a service by signing yourself off and stop endangering your mates by being PTSDed or pussfied by small shit.

Thank you for your service.

Do some volunteer work or help someone you know improve their life you will feel better. You will never be who you were before you killed a person but helping others will make your life more fulfilling.

Hang in there.

watch out everyone tough guy coming though

I know how you feel OP. I won't get specific but we had intel that there were approx 8 or 9 enemy personnel in some shit shack of a house with boarded up windows giving my men gunfire. There were 7 of us, we flanked the house and they fell silent. We broke the handle on the door and I tossed 2 HE grenades and closed it, after the bang I dropped a flash bang in there and looked around to make sure nothing was moving. 7 young soldiers about 10-14 2 older dudes maybe 45-55 and a guy who looked to be in his early twenties. It was a fucking mess. This was back in 09.

Eat a dick faggot men fight in time of war pussies like u hide in ur moms basement

How retard you must be to role in to serve in a no sense war in the middle east. Good work getting yourself mental illness dude. Now you just have to live with that beating the shit out of your wife, no more kids to kill, k?

>Now here I am, the empty remains of a soldier. Living the civilian married office working life. Miserable everyday.

Thank you for your service.
Now, suck it up, buttercup.
Sincerely,
Another US Army soldier.

Something in you has broken. Or maybe it's just your keyboard

Re enlist, kill more until it stops bugging you.
My Grandfather killed plenty of gooks during WW2 didnt seem to bother him any.
My Dad had some ptsd from nam more from the Mortars then the NVA from what he said when he would get a little drunk.
>supposedly one landed in the hootch where he was stationed during a raid killed three guys around him and all got was a shell splinter in the leg.

Share that sad and vulgar shit, sounds intense

Kek you warrant nothing BUT hate. You took our taxes that could be used to fund healthcare and education, and drive around in the sand killing kids, than you "vets" come home and want to be thanked for your service? No American Deployed soldier has done a single thing for their country in the past 10 years. You think the entire Muslim population is going to become radically terroristic if an American doesn't kill a ground of arabs via drone daily? Your "service" was being exactly the boogeyman you seem to be so afraid of and no one gives a fuck if you are sad now. You are literally a terrorist and murderer and you didn't do a single thing out there for "me" (American citizen) or your country please just kill yourself.

Because humans are created beings that are not meant to kill each other, that's why he feels pain for his act, it's called humanity, ditch the fedora and dawkins.

Some people are not cut out for the riggers of war. The phrase "war is hell" is a true saying. You shouldn't feel upset. There it is kill or be killed. If you hadn't killed them they would have killed you or your mates.

The problem is that the politicians have destroyed the military's system due to political correctness and liberal parents that it no longer weeds out those that can not handle the stresses of war. Boot camp was set up initially to do two things.
1. was to teach the basics of the military structure, chain of command and what your life would be like.

2. It was also designed to weed out those that could not or were unable to handle or deal with the riggers of war. You were hardened and trained to kill or be killed. Those that were unable to handle it physically or mentally were weeded out.

They don't do that any more. They no longer teach people that the enemy is called the enemy for a reason. They want to kill you, not because they don't care about you or your political views, but because you are an American.

>>Figthing an enemy while following made up handicap rules that the enemy doesn't follow
Have fun losing
I bet your dumb faggot ass thinks you are there to defend muh freedoms

So why are you here then?

>he followed orders despite revulsion
He's a piece of shit specifically BECAUSE he killed people even though he didn't want to. He's a piece of shit because he did not stand up for what he believed in (killing is wrong). He followed orders like a mindless drone. That is not honour. That is stupidity.

>the kid did his duty
What duty? He had no duty to be the pawn of a government that doesn't care about him. You make it sound like he had no choice in the matter. But he did, and he chose to kill people and now he's here bitching about it. Fuck OP, and fuck you.

How is that edgy? Having a brain and some basic morals is now edgy?

Lmao, everyone trying to justify what he did or how he feels. Maybe, and it may be a radical idea, but just maybe the average human psyche is really fucked up by copious amounts of brutality, Gore and death. Maybe, there isn't a way to "fix" it, its just how you are now. And maybe, its exactly what you deserve you damn pig people marching in your cute little coordinated clothes

You never wondered why countries agreed not to go total war on each other, huh ? Hey, why not launch a few atomic bombs on their country ? People must be stupid not to have thought of that lmao

>>thanks for defending muh freedoms user
Ever since you faggots went there i am losing more of muh freedoms every day
So fuck you

But they don't follow those rules you dumb fuck if they had a nuke they would of used it already

user speaks truth my dad's stories about boot camp during Nam are nothing like they do now.
>25 guys in his boot platoon ended up in motor pool or mess/maintenance because they werent considered fit to serve in combat.
my dad said he wished during his three tours he had fucked up a little more since he got like 40 a month more than the guy dishing out hash in the mess tent.

Sounds like you only went to psychiatrists. You could psychotherapy, i heard of the "humanist psychology movement" in psychology class, it's like half-philosophy and centered on the positive. Sounds like what you'd need to make human connections

Dont bother, it's obvious to another who isn't a retard why Doing something Meaningful=/joining military.
Every military fool is quite literally an extended tool of the wealthy elite, killing strangers and children because some fortune 100 ceo used his SO as a puppet to tell him he was doing Gods work. Lmao, could military idiots be any more oblivious.
>Don't forget that 87% of military wives cheat while their husband is deployed, kek.

a nuclear bomb is a strategic weapon. what exactly would we nuke in afganistan?

you need pure MDMA
trust me
1 dose was enough to fix my problems

thanks for your service. Make sure to vote republican in future elections, because ... oh wait no they always vote to decrease veterans benefits.

If it helps, they'd probably grow up to be even worse terrorists. Soldiers don't fight people in the middle east, they fight husks hollowed by Islam. The combatants you killed weren't human, they were personification of a cancerous ideology. Thank you for your service.

"I killed a human being!" big fucking deal; there's already too much of them and guess what, the more there is, the less the single one is worth.

Well that's what you get when you teach men through all their childhood and youth that killing another human being is the worst thing you could ever do...and then send them out to kill human beings.

OP, you fucking faggot, here's the truth: we're meant to kill each other. The only creature that killed more humans than the human in the mosquito. Since we're the apex predator of the planet, there is no other species that could curb our numbers but ourselves.

BUT, and here's the part where you need to listen up, we've been reprehensibly negligent in this duty given by nature, to keep our own numbers in check with constant war and constant conflict. This whole humanism crap that we invented and that's the some single ideology all of western wold is founded on, is still just something we made up, it has nothing to do with reality and it really fucks with the natural development of our species.

Killing another human ought to be transformative, but not traumatic experience in the life of a man. Because it's fucking normal human behavior and we're the decadent and spoiled brats of the fucking utopia we live in in the west that we mentally can't handle what literally all our ancestors had to to for us to even be here. Yes for fucks sake, we're the children of the killers, not the killed, that's how this shit works.

It's true what they say you can see the cycle in history: good times make weak men. Weak men make bad times. Bad times make strong men. Strong men make good times...

So you go OP, you go and find your inner killer. He's a normal fucking part of you and unless you accept that this shit will just go on. Go shoot. Go hunting, go kill something. Go look at dead people. Try to find the same satisfaction that a squished bug gives in them. Learn why more dead = better future.

Did you ever get a chance to pound some delicious under age pussy?

sand and jews?

Well, if Hillary gets in we will just have even more wars in the middle east.

But those commercials user they said I will be part of a global force for good

Well when we have a civil war it's idiots like you that will get weeded out because you have know idea what it is like.For starters without the military we would be taken over by another country that would have no problem removing you freedoms and soon as you opened you fuck hole of a mouth they would kill you and your family.. Also its dumb fucks like you that think the military gets together and decides to go fuck with another country.

The politicians that retards like you keep putting back in office are the ones that send the military over to fight these bull shit wars that most of the military don't believe in in the first place. When you are in the military it isn't like being a fucking limp dick civilian like you. You have no rights and no say. You are not allowed to quit or call out sick. If you think you can just quit like you can a civilian job you are fucking retarded. You will end up getting kicked out for desertion and get a dishonorable discharge. That strips you of all your rights as an American citizen, you cannot get a job with any government agency or anyone affiliated with the government. Also very few civilian business will hire you either. So FUCK YOU YOU CANDY ASS PUSSY MOTHER FUCKER!

I retired Corporal in the USMC, I was 0331 M249 gunner, I was damn bullet sponge for 8 hours a day. We all did bad shit there. I personally did far worse shit kill 2 boys.

Well all think we know what we're signing up for and think we know how we'll handle being over sea's or after. But you don't, and I know that just as much as you do that is not easy living with it. Although If you dwell on it, eventually you're gonna realize how much time you wasted doing so.

>"Men"
>Implying muslims are people

You are a fucking liar.

Get out of your fucking basement you goddamned fedora wearing neck-beard.

Ik but they're obviously excessive, drone bombings are perfect to target them without risking lives, and following civilized rules also helps you not make them martyrs when you kill them, that way they don't get 2 new members everytime you kill 1 of them.
If you want to lool like a good guy to the rest of the world, you have to follow some rules. There, does this make sense to you ?
If the US looked too threatening for the rest of the world, it wouldn't end well.

i directly caused the death of another person (no gunfire, a big fucking rock was my tool) and i slept fine, have no problems eating, hardly even think about it anymore. and im NOT a soldier.
some people cannot kill.

It would have my vote.

not exactly a tough fucking call is it?

New copy pasta just got created?

Nope. It would solve a lot of problems.

its gotta be, otherwise why post a wall of text like that?
this thread will get tossed,then typing that shit up was 100% pointless

Sure go for it LOL I don't mind.

time and not thinking friend

I would like to buy your benzodiazipines

I did type it numb nuts. and it is from me I didn't copy past it.

But they do get two new members when one gets killed and sadly it's starting to happen here not over there

You can't change the past, and just because you killed a couple of teenagers in combat doesn't make you the devil.

If you really are struggling with the guilt, why not focus on something at home that helps keep teenagers out of violent situations. Like helping with some youth sports organization that keeps children of them streets. There are plenty of teens out there getting killed in drug and gang violence. if its redemption you want, then try to help them teens OP

I buy zopiclones

really?
well alright...but why bother responding?

>t. Welfare Queen
Fight for ZOG, die for ZOG, amirite?

I buy diazepam, temazepam, nitrazepam, zopiclones uk

...

Because even more needs to be done. Like a government-scale debate or something else than taking a video of the president eating a cookie or havin hillary and trump delivering sick burns at each other

>Because humans are created beings that are not meant to kill each other

the complete history of humanity disagrees with you.

As I said, everyone of us is the descendant of a very long line of ancestors for who killing was a normal part of life. everybody has within himself the tools and methods to cope with that shit. It's modern society and the ethics that developed in the west that make killing so difficult for us.

If the case was reversed and the young men in OPs story would have killed his team, do you think they'd have the same existential crisis, would be equally mentally ruined?

I don't fucking think so.

Classic case of saying something to yourself more than responding to someone else. I should now, my newfag ass is doing it in this thread

Yes i really did. I responded so you and other like you would know that some people do more that copy others shit. Some of us actually have a brain and chose to use it.

Yup, it got sacrificed for a system that's supposed to be better at justice and safety. Good for the inside of the country, but bad for dealing with the outisde, or dealing with retarded ideologies. I'd say it's pros and cons

a. You deserve all the torment you get for volunteering to die and kill for israel/suadi arabia.
b. They were jihadist who were trying to kill you. You should not feel bad about killing them. They would not have shown you the mercy you showed them.
c. You need to take a heroic dose of psilocybin/lsd, face your fears head on, and see if you make it through to the other side. Until you face your fears yourself you will keep living the same day over and over again until you expire, likely from alcoholism.

You weren't conscripted or drafted; you voluntarily enlisted. Enjoy your government perks and remember to apply for the Exchange discount card.

Some people actually respond to posts that other talk shit about. Not everyone trolls all the time. I admit I do troll a lot but not currently.

piss off, this isn't the time or place

>Welfare Queen thinks he's special
Fight for ZOG, die for ZOG. Hoorah!

You are such an idiot. You got no idea. Go back to your gender studies teacher and cuddle up with it.

Go live in anouther country if you think its so much better. other wise go fuck your self. There is no welfare. When you retire and you start sucking on your 401K and social security remember you a fucking welfare queen yourself.

Private "security" detail for several years in the 'Stan.

I will thank you for your service first. However lets be honest here, I don't know what your expectations were when you joined, but if you were in a combat MOS, you should expected at some point you'd go in to combat and have to take a life. There's an old saying thats still true, "it doesn't matter what your MOS, you're always infantry". So I'm not sure who lied to you and gave you some false expectation of military life, but you obviously didn't have the right mindset going in.

I find it funny how soft our military is lately, and yet it's still better than most of the foreign taint-grabbers that have some shit to say about it, combined.

OP, one last thing. I've taken life in the commission of my duties, so I know how you feel. I've seen plenty of fucked up shit too and I'd be lying if I didn't say I've never thought of suicide and my PTSD didn't rear its ugly head from time to time. Get counseling, stay away from alcohol and join your local VFW, especially if they have an Amvets group night. What helped me recover, was helping other vets that were going through the same thing.

>not understanding what lead to war
>not knowing SA + israel funded 9/11
>not knowing that 7 ME countries were on a hit list before 9/11
>merica stonk
kys

Yep, thing is making the discussion constructive without writing posts too long isn't easy at first. Can't waste people's time

no, i was seriously asking, and not from a hostile standpoint.
if you really didnt and i was wrong, it was not copypasta, then so what? one more ignorant person on the internet... lets face it, Cred Forums is full of ignorant people.
if i am just being a troll (and i am not, not that saying it matters) then responding was the opposite of what you should do.
if you are a newfag, then a friendly reminder: this place is run by poe's law, you can seldom discern the sincere, from indiscriminate shit-posting.
a great example of this is the screaming feminists...you cannot tell if they are trolls, or really believe that there is a patriarchy etc.
sorry for the long post.

The problem isn't the military it's the fucking politicians that keep sending the military in to do that bull shit. You know it's that same politicians that you keep re electing because you are too retarded to elect someone else.

Sup Vlad?

Nuclear powers only fight non-nuclear powers. You must be 12.

I'm not the guy who wrote the big thing, and he responded to you afterwards, just telling you so you don't get confused.
Also, checked

yep. Too many children and liberals here, so it's like telling Muslims not to blow shit up.

this time around we got
a communist
a lying shill
a business man
a doctor or something
none are REALLY a good pick...i feel like i'm forgetting one, but i'm fighting a migraine.
but you are making a good point

First of all, thank you for your service
I'm no soldier but I do know men of all ages throuought history have been killing each other and it's often very young guys. Look at 'the greatest generation' during WW2, in movies they are usually portrayed by men in their late 20's-early 30's but in reality a lot of them were 18-19, some even younger because they wanted to fight and lied about their age.
It didn't start with you and it won't end with you.
'course I'm not telling you anything you didn't already know

I used to get them every few months for like a year and then they stopped and never came back
Whats your deal with them

explain rock story?

True. None of them are worth a shit and you got to pick the lesser of the evils. Problem it's not just the president it is also congress. Those bastards have more to do with it then the president does. People don't realize that and keep re electing them.

ah, it must have happned while i was writing that fucking text wall, hel likely see it. im going to go nurse my throbbing brain.
there, and i didnt say you dont use your brain, i am just used to this place being so heavily saturated in unoriginal crap, that i overlooked the likelyhood of original content in any form.

>I will thank you for your service first
Why do you thank these people? Is america better or worse off now than before the war? IS our economy better or worse off now? This war cost us over a trillion dollars and may very well go down in the history books of the begining of the end of america. So why the fuck do you thank these people? Do you thank Halliburton and dick cheney too?

>there, and i didnt say you dont use your brain, i am just used to this place being so heavily saturated in unoriginal crap, that i overlooked the likelyhood of original content in any form
NP. I do totally understand that.

You should drink more water. Like a gallon and a half a day. Clean water not tap.

Listen OP
Those boys were ready to slit the throats of civilians who didn't worship allah
they would gut your loved ones and friends and countrymen purely for not having the same beliefs and they would see it as a justified
You did good, you're just human and have emotions that's all.

you fucking man bitch

Get over it you fucking pussy

i did 1 tour in iraq and 2 in afghan killing shitskins is the name of the game bitch.

I threw up the first time I killed someone. After that, it was routine. I didn't feel bad because the enemy forces my hand. Everyone has options, and they could have surrendered if they cared about living. They made their choice, and their action warranted a reaction. Enjoy your Virgins with allah you fucking sand niggers.

Good coping with the migrain man, hope it's not chronic

>he believes a 70 year old browses b

A lot of people join genuinely believing they're doing the right thing. They agree to see the ugliest aspects of their kind and still, any sane among them, are thrown for a loop and then some.
You're absolutely right that it's an ugly business ran by ugly people but that doesn't make the many individuals of many walks that buy into it undeserving of thank.

It's like buying your girl a box of chocolates and getting the shit beat out of you just cause some kid wanted chocolate. You tell her what happened and she'll appreciate that you were thinking of her.

people die all the time. Eventually these feelings will fade, as they did with me.
Eventually you will wake up from your moralfag state and realize people only care about how much money they can suck from your dry husk.
Then you will either despair and kys, or accecpt this reality and resolve to be the baddest mothafucka out there so no one will mess with you anymore.

>tie me to machines and make me pee

Those sandniggers would have grown up to commit atrocities far worse than your act. In fact they probably already had. Their only reason for existing was to spread their hateful religion, and you put a stop to that, you should be proud.
You are doing good work (I don't believe in God)
keep it up.

you killed two fucking guys dude chill out literally everybody else there did the same and more you little baby

What you're saying isn't wrong, but since you make an amalgam with muslims and islamists, it actually becomes wrong. Impressive.

Wow kys fag.
In not saying this to be edgy I am asking you genuinely.

if you like,
> i was on vacation
> i have always had good night vision so i was walking at night
> we were outside portland somewhere on vacation heading into california
> heard footsteps behind me as i was walking toward a bridge
> i sped up a little bit, so did he, then i heard the footsteps speed up
> closing ground fast, i look over my shoulder
> see a mexican in the light of the bridge...could have been a dirty white guy too
> he has a knife out, i trip over a decently sized stone
> grabbed it as i got up
> mex: give me your wal
> i slammed a rock into his jaw with a quick upward swing
> he staggered back, holding the knife out to fend me off
> i threw the rock at the top of his head
> hits his leg instead
> he stumbled right off the edge
> loud slap as he hits concrete or rocks (it was kinda both)
looked over the edge later, it was a long way down

fuck 'em

>but that doesn't make the many individuals of many walks that buy into it undeserving of thank.
Yes it does. If they were truly absolved of responsibility and innocent this thread would have never been created. You reap what you sow. Ignorance does not spare you from universal law and order.

>see funny analogy, try to understand it
wtf i just can't

That oughtta keep the nignogs away

If thats really how it happened then good job. Fuck that spic. I would have gone down there and made him look me in the eyes while he died.

i seldom remember fights properly, adrenaline has that effect, i might have missed with the rock and he just stumbled off, i might have kicked him...i cant remember that part in detail... but i went back to the hotel and slept like a log.

all men must die, and billions of men have killed and been killed in the past. What you went through used to be normal. Remember that.

its still normal, we are just being morally buttfucked about it now

Part of that law is nothing is perfect. People will always make mistakes. Rubbing their noses in it doesn't fix that they happened. Use the experience to better and to help those around you avoid making the same mistakes Step off that high horse when ever you're ready.

you don't understand what normal means.

They would have killed you and never thought twice about it. How can you feel bad? Are you sorry you are alive? Do you feel bad about eating meat because that is about as close to murder as killing Arabs. Just piss in their graves and move on. Fuck those tribal shits. The only thing you should feel bad about is that they were not worth the cost of the ammo. If you are still sad after that get a dog. Good luck.

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It feels awful.

You know you have done something fundamentally wrong which you cannot undo.

War is Hell.

a friend of mine thinks this way
> someone makes a mistake
me: way-to-go fuckface
him: what good dose that do, pointing out the problem and making them fell like shit bla-bla-bla
me: its incentive to not make the same mistake again

you are supposed to feel bad, its how you know to get better.

You in Texas?

Join a fucking outlaw biker gang

there will always be killing, and other people will always be doing it, until there are no people left.
it may be true that i dont know what normal is. but peace will never be normal, not until we are all long gone.

We can't coddle our way out of this mess. The first step to resolution is a sober assessment of what happened and what is going on. Humor is my preferred way of telling someone they fucked up.

well, if im at work, i find brow beating them works best, outside of that, a short witty remark works too, but i live in Washington, the redneck infested part... so if im too witty, it sails right over their heads, and if you are too blunt, you might piss him off to the point he wants to "fight" which really means, get drunk and in 3 months recognize you outside the general store, and punch you in the stomach.

The problem is the restards who still keep joining the military when it's well known now that you ll pretty much get send to kill to make someone else richer and not really defend any of muh freedums.
In reality theses faggots are helping take muh freedoms away.

thats what happens when you all play too much fucking call of duty
dont know why people like that game its straight boring trashhh

agreed battlefield is way better

60 year olds do

You have to be a fucking retard to think that you ll be doing anything good when you join the military right now

The horror

there are a few on here, ive seen some 60+ timestamped birthdays, we have an oddly wide user base

So police never came after you and you never got investigated? Did you ever read about his body in the news papers

harden the fuck up. no one is innocent. those who live by the sword die by it also. you should be thankful you killed them before they killed you.

wtf , this country is fucking done

no, never saw a badge, i dont think anyone really gave a fuck, he likely had a long record, but
> mexican falling off steep rocky area
isnt really a crime, why investigate?
i dont live there, i never got a paper.

>being able to kill without feeling emotion like a psychopath means I'm better than you

you didnt do something fundamentally wrong though. you were put in a situation where its you or them, so it was them.

shitty situation, but honestly you should only feel fucked up if you did it for the sake of taking a life. You both chose to pick up a gun and fight someone else and they lost. You killed someone trying to kill you, fuck the politics behind it, fuck the brotherhood behind it.

stfu pussy faggot

That's right AssHole I'm 70 . At least you learned how to add.

Don't be a pussy faggot? Just my thoughts. I don't feel bad when I kill bad people.

he killed someone that came at him with a deadly weapon, why should he feel guilty?

>replying two hours later
>and yet I'm still here in the thread to see your reply

If you "were" a veteran, thank you for your service! Much respect and this is coming from a Mexican/Salvadorean born in the U.S.. If I can, I'll have a beer with you

If you "were" a veteran, thank you for your service! Much respect and this is coming from a Mexican/Salvadorean born in the U.S.. If I can, I'll have a beer with you, but you know how this internet shit goes.

He shouldn't feel guilty, but to have absolutely no qualms about taking another life, not even philosophising about it afterwards, is psychopathic. The user is probably pretty unintelligent, not even capable of understanding the gravity of the event.

I'll tell you like I told the other retard, Your right I'm 70"I post on b. Yes I still,can getnit up, yes I fuck,at lest twice a week. I have a job in Baseball,and I had PTSD., somI know what I'm talking about. Finally my life is better than yours, I get paid to be around a game. So no not Fuck Me , Fuck You

why do we hold vets up on a pedistal?
they get paid for the work they do dont they?
they know the risk going in right?
by that standard, most firefighters dont get paid, why dont we hold them up on a pedestal also?

Late to the thread but man, it's getting trying to get any solace in Cred Forums lately. You get judged harshly damn without little empathy...

Though I must admit i found creepy when op said they celebrate their first kills...

if you really are 70, then they are looking to get a rise out of you,
if you aren't, nice troll.

You're pretty dumb. Are you only capable of black and white thinking? You = good and them = bad, right?

You're a simpleton. It's so much more complex than that. Those enemy soldiers would have also thought that OP was 'bad', but in that logic only one of them can be bad. Which one is it?

>but to have absolutely no qualms
bullshit, its not necessarily paychopathic. Youre not taking mental prep into it. For all we know he has had similar situations professionally (soldiers arent the only ones that end up in life or death situations) or simply was raised in a manner thay validates his actions mentally and or spiritually since it was self defense. thus no qualms.

>it's getting trying to get any solace in Cred Forums lately

I meant it's getting hard.

This land ain't your land
this land ain't my land
see mothers crying
see brothers dying
from the burning forests, to the poisoned waters--

this land was made for you and me.

tbh I don't have the balls to join the military that's why I give them respect. and who said we don't respect the firefighters, paramedics and the cops also? come on Cred Forumsro there's 300,000,000 people in this country, there's various opinions.

we do hold fire fighters up on a pedestal.. i dont know what country you live in.

and i personally only show a little bit of extra respect to vets because we have a volunteer based military and enough of them volunteer to the point that we dont need shit like israel and getmany that require you to serve after highschool

I am and you look pretty good , want some free tickets to a baseball game lol. I,ll have them at the Will Call, or better yet knock on my hotel room door and I'll give them to you persobally. lol

Pic with timestamp faggot

What did you think you were going to do you fucking dumbass when you signed up for the military, plant fucking flowers. Man the fuck up, you joined up to kill people and you did...

true, but id argue that this generation, in this age respects the police.

yeah I might do that I like my job

>since it was self defense. thus no qualms
You're missing the point. I said that of course he shouldn't feel guilty morally because it was self defence, but the user made it seem it was as inconsequential as squatting a fly. No shaking? No being scared he might be caught? No wondering whether that guy had a family or children dependent on him? To just go and 'sleep like a log' after killing someone is psychopathic.

Ok fuck off it's passed your bedtime kiddo.

Well, that's where the media comes into play. How do you know that majority of this generation dislikes the police? "The Media"...but it's not entirely true. As for me and you, we give the cops respect right? what does that tell you?

cant nap, came back. i am the user from before, and i did have a few moments of realization afterwards, but i rationalized it and moved on.
i did sleep like a log, but i hunt with a bow in the woods, ive worked a farm... i have experience with killing animals.

i do, some friends of mine are cops.

OP, who is that artist again? Is it Zdzislaw Beksinski?

Hey OP,

My dad was a Marine in Vietnam and it took him many years to come to terms with how good he was at slaying th Viet Cong and how so many of his brothers died in his arms.

Years later it's still a struggle but he finds peace in his brotherhood. Give it time OP. Thanks for serving and thanks for being open. I'll pray for you OP. Post your first name for me, will ya?

scared he might be caught? caught for what? he defended himself and they guy died, nothing illegal there other than not reporting it.

>wondering if he had a family
why the fuck should he wonder that? the guy wasnt wondering that when he came at him with a knife. if thats the case then he killed a psychopath by your definition, so id feel no qualms either.

I never said you didn't lol

What?

Why would some one like you expect sympathy from anyone? You traveled thousands of km to kill people you knew nothing about, in a land you knew nothing about. You murdered some kids that were defending their homesteads and land and now you cry about it...in the richest country in the world, living at a level of material comfort the majority of earth's population can only dream about.

Go fuck yourself. I hope your suffer every day of your life.

Been a long time sinse anyone me Kiddo, Thanks

oh, i was responding to what i now believe was a hypothetical question

You gotta give back to the community or to a person. It will help. Get involved with habitat for humanity, you can still do good in this world. Theres nothing inhumane about what happened there. War and violence, thats written into our genetic code. I understand you feel bad but really its just nature. So like i said, do some volunteer work. You lived and now youve got the chance to make people smile (which to me seems more unnatural than murdering)

>scared he might be caught? caught for what? he defended himself and they guy died, nothing illegal there other than not reporting it.
You know the law can fuck you over user

>why the fuck should he wonder that? the guy wasnt wondering that when he came at him with a knife.
Doesn't change the fact that a couple kids may have just lost their father. Yeah he may have deserved it, but that doesn't change the fact that people might have cared about him. I'm not saying the user should feel bad about it, but if I were in his position I would have at least spent a long time thinking about it and who else could have been affected by it. There are other people involved beyond the user and the guy. I probably would have concluded that I was justified in killing him, but not even thinking about it would be psychopathic.

You should have double tapped you fucking faggot.

Honestly all these rules are the cause of mental problems, you cant shoot the enemy until they shoot you. have to give medical care to a armed wounded enemy pls why even approach them they stil have guns grenades etc.

This must be high quality bait as every one on /b is a hollowed out soul and no one cares.

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It is fundamentalist and all muslims are one or they are simply lying and using kitman on your ass.

i dont think you know what psychopathic actually is. Getting enjoyment from it would be psychopathic, not thinking about it doesnt make you a psychopath.

Fuck you , they are born muslim. They are already members you dweep.

so?

and why should i think about it? what would it accomplish?
if that was their father, then perhaps they wont follow his example, and also....to quote you "dosent change the fact" that hes dead, and if he wasn't prepared for that possibility, maybe he should have got a job and not mugged people?
i dont care about his dreams, aspirations, etc.

"we are all born atheists, until we are lied to"
not that user by the way.

make yourselve commie

Look I am in no way defending this mugger. Of course he should have gotten a legitimate job. But pragmatism culls imagination. And I think it would be really interesting to mull over what this person who I've killed might have been like, what his background was, what led him to mug me, etc.

Maybe that's just me, but I would be (at least temporarily) fazed by the knowledge that I had killed someone. It's not something that happens everyday, after all.

Thank you bro. You described that so well. Its often challenging for me to find the right words and the right way to verbally paint a picture.. or in this case a simple discription of the shit talkers who roam this site. You killed it it tho. And I'm a normal person.... kinda makes me wonder sometimes why I even visit B at times

>that i killed
theres your problem. faggots thinking that someone dying because you defended yourself means you killed or murdered someone. He didnt kill him, he threw a rock at him and he fell off the ledge, if anyone killed him then the mugger killed himself.

well, i was a little fazed the following day, looking at my coffee, but it was temporary, and passed by lunch, as i said, i worked a farm, and i hunt...you get used to it, i dont think that makes me less sane.

I want to say thats its bad to kill yada yada yada BUT these two people, had they the chance, they would kill hundreds of westerners, with no remorse. They would do it happily.

I am not american. Typically, where I come from we are anti-american, cause you guys are too loud for your own good. Still, the way things are, I believe you killed people who had no chance in life anyway. Their only purpose was to kill. Their only pleasure would be to kill. They died probably thinking they would go to some heaven.
Who took no lives. Those lives were already lost. They were taken by those who put those weapons in their hands. None of it was your fault.

Thank you for your service and your sacrifice. Fuck anyone who says otherwise. You suffered to protect their rights to be spoiled little cunts. They may not appreciate it but there are those of us that do. You are not alone.

lol. way to undermine complicated political situations into "you are human, they arent"...

No one becomes an exremist because they want to, despite what the tv box may tell you. They do it out of desperation.

american here
> you guys are too loud
we are too fucking loud, this is just a fact, we could stand to talk less, and think more

You're lower than scum, you spineless edgelord. This may be /b, but unless you're a true sociopath, show some fucking empathy to a mentally wounded soldier. Oh. Also, you're a faggot.

I did not say they where not human.
I said, they where already brainwashed to take up guns against an obviously superior force.
I highly doubt any kind of US occupation on their lands would be in any way worst than the local taliban stoning people to death for not surendering their food for the great cause of Alah.

I like my job. Cause George Steinberg jr looks through 4chin. You can't produce anything relevant towards your argument that you are a salty salt war dog. No paper over the face grey hair showing nothing. Fuck you highschool kid tomorrows Monday time for school

What rights was he protecting?

He was literally attacking another country.

Stop being such a faggot. Just kill yourself or go on a shooting spree. Either one, but no more faggy threads like this. I had almost 10,000 kills on bf3, a shit load of kills on bf4, and once I get bf1 I will have even more under my belt. 2 kills? Ha!

PTSD is not a new phenomenon. Why is mental health care - actually, ALL health care - from the VA SO FUCKING AWFUL?

Mostly the system(s). Not the guy who you responded to, but that's my vote.

You better show me some fucking respect kid. men like me died for YOUR freedom!

guilt is like a bag of bricks nigga
sometimes you just gotta put the bag down
he coulda been younger so let it go dude
it gets easier

Killing isn't the same as murdering. Murdering is causing the death of someone with intent to kill them or intent to cause 'serious harm'.

>He didn't kill him, if anyone killed him then the mugger killed himself.
No, the user definitely killed him. He caused him to stumble off the edge of the cliff by hitting his leg with the rock. But for user throwing the rock, the guy would not have died.

t. law student

hes getting your goat. dont give him the satisfaction.

He suffered to protect corporate greed. Not my freedom. Sorry this happened to you though. Never sign up for the military kids.

>Millennial safe space pansy detected

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How could you not possibly justify this as you or him? Idgi?

your married office work life is more depressing than having killed some scumfucks.

When you get off mommas teet.

did your grandfather seem upset that he'd get 25-L for killing a civilian? because he could get away with that overseas

No pic , never happened

I'm with this guy lmao fuck the OP
feels good having a clean conscious and not having the blood of two kids on my hands

bunch of boot licking faggots here

that's what you signed up for.

You might be gay

this is how it used to work, i miss that.

>Viet Nam
>1967

Fuck off

He's self aware

there are consequences to every actions
cause and effect

thats why i think the terrorists won on 9/11
because people are pussies
the whole thing is a conspiracy by definition

so of course you weren't investigated. ha

oh, shit, im out of tinfoil...mind if i borrow some?

no....why would i be?
people fall off shit all the time, and i don't even live there, there weren't a bunch of people standing there...it was night time...you don't think they called up a forensic team for one jackass wandering around at night do you?
this isnt CSI

you're right i got plenty

kek, i really am out, fuck....not even kidding, i forgot to buy more, and keep forgetting...its not like i use it allot.

Hey gloomy Gus! Turn that frown upside-down

I'm starting to wonder if this is a side effect. I have the same feeling. It's not lust, not even a conquering, just a need to sleep around that I never had before.

@OP: Get a fucking dog. Fuck human connections. Your new battle will save your life. Mine did. You need someone who won't judge. Who's survival relies on you. Someone less human who can understand that the primal side of your mind is actually awake. Too few men anymore have to do what we did, too few know what it's like to fight to take and keep a life. A dog is the proper answer.