ITT: Explain why life is worth living and why suicide is selfish and a waste of life

ITT: Explain why life is worth living and why suicide is selfish and a waste of life.

You posted one of the reasons, which is good/decent porn.
The other is fun vidya.

It's harder to jerk off if you are dead.

Life isn't necessarily worth living. Your life could very well be nonstop misery and woe until the day you die. It probably won't be though. Even a friendless loser will probably have at least one girl in his life (Though she may fuck you over eventually.) There are going to be awesome new games, books, movies you'll miss out on, etc. Even if most of the remainder of your life will end up sucking, you will undeniably miss out on SOME good stuff.

Its selfish because it will cause immense grief and misery in anyone who cares about you like friends, family, gf, whatever. You don't have to care about that, you'll be dead anyways, but its still undoubtedly selfish to do so. If your best bro, son, or girlfriend killed themselves it would effect you for the rest of your life.

Too difficult

I actually believe "an hero" is personal preference and I have helped 2 go myself. Nobody should die alone and it's their choice.

If you have even one person that cares about you, suicide is a selfish fucking act. If no one cares about you, go for it.

One reason: MEMES XD

do you want to live? ok, then live

want to be dead? fucking kill yourself

thats all there is to it

You should live because boobs exist. You may not have the chance to touch them yet, but if you go to some sort of dating website, you can find something

I've touched plenty of boobs in my time, just high and curious as to what Cred Forums feel makes life worth while.

Yeah yea just kill yourself already you depressed piece of shit

Wow, so edgy. Take care you didn't cut yourself on that edge, oh wait... it's fucking blunt.

Sex is the reason I'm still alive. Or lack thereof. Once I have sex for the first time I can die happy.

Sex isn't the be all and end all user. Sure, it's good to get laid but don't waste your life trying to get your dick wet cause bitches aint worth it.

Sex is literally the end all be all. It keeps us humans going!

better then rotting in the ground

Life is not worth anything, as is death

Why must things have a reason, why must life have a meaning; why can't it all be marvelously organised chaos?

A 20-year-old Palestinian named Ghazi Safar entered the restaurant and detonated a vest wired with C4. The shock wave knocked me flat, blew out my eardrums. I couldn't hear. The smoke... It was like being underwater. I went inside. A nightmare. Blood. Parts of people. You could tell where Safar was standing when the vest blew. It was like a perfect circle of death. There was almost nothing left of the people closest to him. 17 dead, 46 injured. Blown to pieces. The closer they were to the bomber, the more horrific the effect.


That's every suicide. Every single one. An act of terror perpetrated against everyone who's ever known you... Everyone who's ever loved you. The people closest to you... the ones who cherish you... are the ones who suffer the most pain, the most damage. Why would you do that? Why would you do that to people who love you?

A valid point. Almost sounded poetic.

The fear of no understanding the concept of not existong is the only thing keeping me from not fucking killing myself. That and the fact that i dont want to die a virgin.

If you can't find a reason for living what makes you think I can find one for you. Quit being a whiny bitch, man up or fuck off and do it quietly.

That's quite an extreme way to look at suicide but I understand what you're saying. Honestly didn't think getting high and asking such a inexplicable question would provide such a variety of answers. Damn Cred Forums you almost seem like humans.

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Thanks for your input user. Here, have some tits

I don't see it that way at all. It's more abominable to ask a "loved one" someone to really care for...to stick around and live just because YOU would feel bad! Killing yourself is a permanent solution to a sometimes temporary problem and should never be rushed. But if you have decided then it should be YOUR decision. If a dog is i'll you take it to the vets to kill it...what makes humans any different? We are just another species of the animal kingdom.

That's quite an interesting viewpoint, one you don't here too often. But at the same time, it's a damn valid point. I'm sure plenty of people have a counter argument to that statement but I'm enjoying reading all of these different viewpoints.
No one is correct and no one is incorrect IMHO regarding this subject. Thanks for your input, have some boobs

Thanks for the boobs, I have helped 2 people find peace and would do it again. I don't think anyone should die alone and the two in question desperately wanted to but could never manage it... eg; the last one I helped, on his last attempt he jumped off a multi story carpark, 5 floors to the ground below. Broke several bones, knees, fractured spine, legs, ankles and pelvis and didn't want to spend another near year in recovery and rehab. So I told him how to do it correctly and perfectly and he is now at peace.

A lot of people would tell you you're a monster for what you've done but I can honestly say that to me, it sounds like you did the right thing. I hope his passing was quick and relatively painless.

It was, it was with the first. I have always thought that death should be met on your terms. I had a friend at school who once asked me to "help" them and I refused. The next day they did it anyway with an OD. But didn't finish it, they ended up with severe brain damage as a result, needing lifelong 24hr help from her family. This is now her life, 29 and being washed and bathed by here brother, father and mother. Death unfortunately is an exact science sometimes, especially if you want to do it right and painless. People can call me what they like and I am happy with their opinions, but I am also happy with my choices.

I'll admit, I tried to an hero once or twice when I was a teenager. Liver is kinda fucked from overdosing so can't drink a shit ton or take prescription meds anymore but I would say I got lucky. Sometimes I contemplate what life would be like for the people I know if I'd succeeded but I can't say I'd ever try it again. Not unless life got to such a shitty point I couldn't pull myself out of the darkness. I can understand why people want to commit suicide though and I'd never try to talk them out of it, rather talk to them about why. I fthey change their mind, so be it. If not, as you said, it's their choice

You have eternity to be dead. Why not make the best of the limited time you have on earth?

Anyone who says suicide is selfish is completely retarded. They are the selfish ones trying to keep a person alive who has no desire to be alive anymore because they don't want to have to deal with the loss and sadness. Guess what, that person who committed suicide likely dealt with significantly worse sadness for significantly longer than you will experience from the loss.

If you're unhappy with life turn to drugs. Smokin my weed always makes me happy. there are so many drugs out there why would you want to kil yourself. Acid. Mmda. Shrooms. Do dmt you might have a life changing experience. Drugs help you get to know yourself. Smoking weed cured my depression. I don't even smoke that often ( it's been 4 weeks). Life can be shitty but drugs make everything better

I totally agree, and I'd like to make clear that both were on a self destructive mission. I had talked with them at length about their lives, their futures and the ramifications. I am glad you have made a come back. I feel though that there is too much stigma around it. They always say it's the cowards way out...but it's the furthest thing from the truth. I just made their "plan" and gave them the means...I would never encourage nor discourage. I think we all should be able to choose when we go and how. I can't think of anything worse than wanting to and not having a way out...or trying and failing time and time again.

stay alive so you can jizz more

I lost 50 pounds smoking weed

depends on the person
In your case its doing everyone a favor, and you living is a waste of space

A valid point user.

That's damn true user. I failed at an heroing and turned my life around but it damn well felt like I couldn't possibly feel worse at the time.

I'm baked right now my good man

Damn user, personally think you hit the nail on the head there

edge fag detected

Thank you. I have always thought that way. If they wanted to be alone, I'd give them space and if they wanted company then I would sit with them. They both wanted company...I reported them the next day. I asked them before they went if they were 100% sure and if they were in the least hesitant then they should not. The gentleman I was saying about earlier, we sat there until 2am watch the southpark movie :D good times, fond memories.

That really doesn't help at all. Also I don't think committing suicide is selfish at all, unless you have children that is. Which in and of itself is very selfish.

I think sex is highly overrated

Sauce?

I also can't abide by murder suicide btw...if you want to die then thats your choice but I dont think its right to take others with you.

OP here, it's getting late here (UK) and I have work in the morning so I'm gonna head off. Been good talking with you guys and getting your different viewpoints.

Name is in the file name, or you could of reverse image searched. But I'm feeling good so I'll give you her name. It's Mandy Dee.

Peace out bitches

MFW i reailized I fapped with my head at the same angle as hers

>people who don't get laid often/at all think it's a big deal because society makes it seem like a big deal being virgin is mockable ect

>People who have/had sex a lot or are in a relationship don't think it's a big deal because why fucking would they

Don't just say it objectively doesn't matter because it subjectively does same with being in a relationship

>Explain why life is worth living
Because life is pleasurable, under certain circumstances and if you know what you're doing.
>why suicide is selfish
Because it's an act that doesn't consider the feelings of the people who love you.
>"why suicide is" "a waste of life"
Because you don't live the time that could have lived.

Was jumping off to get sleep but read this and laughed my arse off. Thanks user, top kek

I don't understand people who say sex is overrated. How can the things that helps us procreate be overrated. It's akin to saying oxygen is overrated.

I fucking hate kids so I'd say procreation is over-rated. Getting laid is damn good though

Is-ought fallacy. Understand this before you go through life sounding like an idiot.

There's other ways of procreation, also fuck procreation, what's so good about that? Great now you're in a shitty world filled with shitty people, thank your parents. And all these years you look forward for the number on thing you're here for, procreation. And guess what, it fucking sucks, sex is overrated.

Yes, sex shouldn't be a thing lol. Good one mate.

And those methods couldn't keep us afloat if people stopped fucking. Sex is objectively necessary. It can't be overrated.

No, the point I was making was that just because sex -> procreation has no weight in the argument of the value of sex in and of itself. You also beg the question in assuming that procreation in and of itself is a good thing without providing any argumentation for that.

You do realise that sex and procreation isn't the same thing right? Also you just glossed over a big chunk of my argument. Sex is overrated.

Procreation have weight in any argument pertaining to the need, or lack thereof, of sex. You can call sex overrated and completely disregard the biological purpose of sex.

look, you were born out of selfishness, so if you live it will mostly be to pursue your own selfish goals and if you off yourself you'll be a selfish asshole for not thinking about the people you made suffer with it.
You're fucked right from the start, but thanks for the nice fake

Could you rewrite that coherently, I can't tell what side you're on with a contradictory first and second sentence. Were you agreeing with me or the other user?

Sorry English isn't native for me. I'm saying you can't speak on if sex is overrated or not without taking into account all that sex encompasses.

Oh I think I agree with you there. I just meant you can't use procreation as ammunition for your argument unless you flesh out why it is good/desirable first. You can't skip that step and assume you made a good point.

Damn user, that's a damn good fucking point. Can honestly say no fake was intended but congrats on pointing that out. Thanks for yet another view point on this subject.

I thought you were going to bed

Love me some katy perry porn, even though I don't even listen to her music...

Why shouldn't anybody die alone? We're born alone, and we die alone. First lesson my dad taught me. Cancer got him in 2012 and even though there was family there with him he told me he felt so lonely dying like that he was looking forward to death. He said he wished he could live long enough to die with me so I wouldn't have to go through it alone. You're alone unless someone else is dying with you. That's why I've made up my mind to take some people with me when I go. Doesn't matter who it is

Oh I understand now! My apologies. Guess next question is isn't it safe to assume the continuation of our species a good thing? I don't want us to extinct. I would think the vast majority wouldn't want us to go extinct. Continuation is desirable in that context?

Demanding a merisable person stay alive is far more selfish.

Dating site??? You dumb cocksucker. Haven't you heard of escorts? You can fuck a hot porn star today for the price of a couple paycheck from McDonald's. Some pretty famous ones too. Ehh, but sex gets old..and then what do you got?

That was the plan but this thread just keeps going. Curiosity is my downfall here. I'll either skip work or survive on a few hours sleep. Depends how long this thread keeps going.

Oh... that's what you meant by fake.. damn I feel stupid..

I'm personally waiting until I finish all the Song of Ice and Fire books and all the episodes of Game of Thrones come out

I said the same thing once and someone had the nerve to tell me the story of the fox and the sour grapes... Even though I plainly told them I could have sex whenever I wanted. Talk about stupid.

U should
Roar is my jam and I saw her on the Prismatic tour. Bitches everywhere.

all media sucks this includes movies, games, books, porn. all controlled by the same entities, i wish i could tell you its worth living but its clearly not what a shitty time to be alive.

I wish it were that simple. Continuation of the human species may be a majority view but it doesn't make it right nor a safe "assumption". There are interesting oppositions to this notion if you want to read up on it. Anti-natalism in general or VHEMT for more specific (radical/extreme environmentalism).

Then do something about it...join us!

Why would you NOT want humans to go extinct? Fucking human-boo special snowflake! Take your human-love and fuck off, loser! God you weirdos make me PUKE!!

Thanks gonna go read up on that. I may not finish before the thread 404s. Thanks for the debate!

Poe's Law.

Yeah man, good luck, have fun.

I hate people and want them all to suffer forever in Hell.

Because tits

Because when I was on shrooms I imagined being in hell and being completely covered in flies. I'm not religious but that shit scared me.

Suicide doesn't take away the pain, it just spreads it to those who care about you.

At least live to see who becomes the next president.

IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO KILL YOURSELF

YOU WOULD BE DEAD

How fucking beta leftist are you? If you are suffering you should be able to kill yourself, if those who care about you suffer after you die, they can kill themselves too.

I disagree. My father killed himself when I was 22, and the result, since I was his last living relative, was me going to the coroner's office (they wanted my input as to whether or not it was suicide or an accidental OD), arranging his funeral (he made friends with the Knights of Columbus, who took care of everything financially even though he didn't pay into their life insurance program), attending the funeral in a black button up and leather pants, dumping his ashes, and then getting shit-faced off 151 afterward.
Beyond that, my step-mom he split from a few years before cried. My step-sister cried. I thought about some of the words left forever unspoken, but frankly, he died hated by his last living relative, alone, an alcoholic, and a miserable wretch. My biggest regret is not killing him myself, but I didn't want the trouble of doing something he should've done himself years before. And I did love him at one point, but if there was one thing Hitler was right about, it was exterminating junkies. They're subhuman animals in human skin.

>Flies
>In hell
Not very creative. Did god steal that from Hollywood?

Good idea. In fact wait until inauguration day and film your suicide in protest. Maybe you'll kick off a wave of similar suicides across the country. A real an hero revolution. What a way to welcome the the new president huh? Just imagine...it would be beautiful.

Cannae say why life is worth living, but suicide is selfish because when you suffer and you kill yourself, you push your suffering on those who knew you.

Not fair...killing yourself is the hardest thing you can do.