Does the Balon D'or lose any and all credibility when he doesn't win in January?

Does the Balon D'or lose any and all credibility when he doesn't win in January?

No, actually it will gain all credibility again after January as the Ballon D'or will be voted for by just journalists again instead of the team captains from the Cook Islands and Tahiti.

how contrived

No, actually it will gain all credibility again after January as the Ballon D'or will be voted for by just journalists again instead of the team captains from the Cook Islands and Tahiti.

It isn't called Ballon D'or anymore you idiot.

No, actually it will gain all credibility again after January as the Ballon D'or will be voted for by just journalists again instead of the team captains from the Cook Islands and Tahiti.

>journalists is better

(OP)

No, actually it will gain all credibility again after January as the Ballon D'or will be voted for by just journalists again instead of the team captains from the Cook Islands and Tahiti.

are you autistic?

Ronaldo won the Champions League and the Euros this year, yet Messi should win a Ballon d'Or because he scores hattricks against teams like Leganés and Osasuna?

No, actually it will gain all credibility again after January as the Ballon D'or will be voted for by just journalists again instead of the team captains from the Cook Islands and Tahiti.

messi should win because he's better

>voted by journalists
>assigned journalists all have their own favourite team and will vote accordingly
lel great credibility gained, check the articles and where the chosen spanish journalist writes

>No, actually it will gain all credibility again after January as the Ballon D'or will be voted for by just journalists again instead of the team captains from the Cook Islands and Tahiti.

>de lusion

you are likely a man united fan

marginally, yes. they might put some meme or hipster votes like pirlo or Ibra but at least they don't vote for friends/family/ex-teammates/ or don't vote for players for petty political reasons like captains and managers do. also, at least a part time fisherman won't get the same vote as a world cup and/or euro winning manager.

He should win because he's better with the ball

Ronaldo won two trophies that matter, how was Messi better this year?

Neither him nor Ronaldo should win it, though.

>football is an individual sport

Ballon d'Or is an individual award

So why are you talking about team awards?

>amerilels

but thats the point

he was almost a non factor in both trophies

Now it will be voted by journalists from Cook Islands and Tahiti, surely it will be better. :^)

the baloon door is just a popularity contest for attackers

>only bedding one woman your whole life
topkek messhits. based ronaldo punted his supermodel gf out the door because she didn't go to a birthday party. alpha as fuck. trust me once messi retires their marriage won't last 2 years. His rampant autism is only bearable because he is away so often playing football. Once antonella has to endure him constantly forward rolling about the house, filling the fridge with sprite and hiding various objects in secret locations because maintaining possession is 'la masia' way she will leave him.

Ronaldo happened to be on 2 teams that flukes tournament wins.

Ronaldo, by his own standards, was shit last season.

Bale:

>UCL Champion having a godtier second half of season
>Makes shitty Wales go to Euro semis

Griezmann:

>Best player in Euros, exposing frauds like Pogba and Giroo
>Scores in vital games against Barça, Real and Bayern

Suárez:

>Top scorer in European Leagues and tons of assists
>Won Liga and Copa deciding matches by his own

Cristiano:

>UCL champion and top scorer
>Euro champion (He didn't make shit tho)

Messi:

>Chokes with his NT (AGAIN)
>Deserves BDO for scoring goals against Celtic and FUCKING LEGANÉS

He is one of the GOATS, but this season wasn't even the best player on his team.

This gaynaldo and misshit are both overrated hacks stop arguing over them you stupid redditors and be more upset that real players aren't getting enough recognition

Absolutely. It is an award for the best player in the world and that player is Messi. And really nobody even comes close.

>balloon door
>credibility
Pick one

i agree about bale and griezmann, but no way ronaldo

Because of his individual contribution in those tournaments to win those trophies. What was Messi's contribution in Copa America, a missed shot in a final penalty shootout? Sure, Ronaldo got injured during the Euro final, but at least he inspired his teammates and they won without him.

By that logic why didn't iniesta win it over Ronaldo before?

Checkmate athiests

>and hiding various objects in secret locations because maintaining possession is 'la masia' way she will leave him.

bretty good

>ronaldo inspired
after he got injured at the end of the game he started tip toeing around the portugal coach waving his arms around as if he's the coach's equal

then when they were holding the cup ronaldo wouldn't let go as his team mates wanted to hold it too

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delete this

pepe is a bad guy

>hiding various objects in secret locations because maintaining possession is 'la masia' way

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>Does the Balon D'or lose any and all credibility
>Implying the balloon door has any credibility
KEK

fucking disgusting

how funny would it be if pepe would win the award though?

he won the CL and he won the euros and was one of the best players at the tournament

>What was Messi's contribution in Copa America, a missed shot in a final penalty shootout?
5 goals and 3 assists in 5 games played. Ronaldo had 3 goals and 2 assists in 7 games played.

Messi had superior individual output, you fell for the trophy meme.

>Because of his individual contribution in those tournaments to win those trophies
Ronaldo had one outstanding game in both tournaments this year, which were the second leg versus Wolfsburg and versus Bulgaria. Other than that he was between average to invisible.

he should desu, but he isn't marketable enough for it

>Bulgaria
kys

SUCH A LUST FOR REVENGE

it would be fine by me. most moortuguese people would hate it though (waa waa b-but penaldo is the second coming of jesus christ, pepe is brazilian scum waa waa)

I'd love for that to happen desu, imagine the monumental butthurt

Ah, you don't watch football. Why didn't you say that from the start so I don't waste my posts on you?

Because you can count on one hand the amount of truly good games Ronaldo had this year. As for the trophies, he was invisible once again in the CL final and had to rely on fucking Eder to win the Euros. If he'd played a starring role in both finals then fair enough, but he didn't.

For me Suarez deserves it this year anyway. His all around play was incredible and he stepped up in a lot of big games.

>Ronaldo can't rely on stat padding to win anymore

I bet he had a hissy fit when he found out about the award split

>50+ goals
>shit

o k

Both Ronaldo and Messi werent particularly good last year desu
Griezman should get it

the golden meme balloon never had any credibility to begin with.

FIFA only got involved to hoover up a slice of the nike/adidias backhanders.

cant believe there are people hare memeing the way telling thet messi was good last season

>beating up on teams who's budget is 100x less than yours
>good

So what makes Messi or Suarez or any other la liga player any better? Certainly not their peformances in int. competitions or the CL

>Ter Stegen (1) has more successful dribbles than Cristiano Ronaldo (0) in the 2016/17 Liga.

unpopular fact: neymar was the best player from barcelona last season

>tf

As if sport journalists were unbaised.

No, his teams won those championships, he didnt do a shit. He played at a low level last season.

Ronaldo wouldn't have even made it out of the Euro group stages if they hadn't changed the rules for 3rd place teams this year. He had a cake walk to the finals which he left early in due to injury while his team completed the task. He was a detriment to Portugal with his free kicks and insulted Iceland for being unambitious in style of play even though his team won with the same negative defensive store.

Also, look at his knockout stage opponents in the CL last year. Easiest path to the finals any team has ever had

Didn't he disqualify when he retired from the NT after losing to the Chilean Degenerates a second time.

Didn't Greaseman miss that penalty in the UCL final that would've made the difference in the final score? His achievements are real, i'm just saying he's not clutch enough for the Balon d'Or

Greaseman is more deserving than Ronaldo if you want to go down the Euros and CL route, he was top scorer at the euros and did more get Madrid into the final than Ronaldo did at Real

Messi, Suarez and Bale have been the 3 best players in the world in 2016

Ronaldo scored his penalty, Greaseman didn't score the one to make it even and Carrasco had to bail him out. It's amazing how fast people can forget that Greasyman was exposed and Cristiano came out GOAT.

Greaseman scored in the shootout though

kek

Suarez should win and that's all there is to it

>Cristiano came out GOAT.
Do you not have TVs in Venezuela? Ronaldo was dogshit in that final.

And if you actually meant that scoring the final penalty in a shoot out is GOAT then where are Drogba's (2012), Giggs' (2008), Smicer's (2005), Shevchenko's (2003) and Linke's (2001) Ballon d'Ors?

>Euro champion (He didn't make shit tho)
yeah except preventing us from getting 4th placed and you know winning the semi finals, just minor stuff lol

>then when they were holding the cup ronaldo wouldn't let go as his team mates wanted to hold it too
lies, also

Yeah because getting one number right in the lottery matters when you don't win it.

Nice argument, Ronaldo didn't do anything the whole game 'cept taking that last penalty (which won them the game), Greaseman missed the penalty (which cost them the game) and missed his two opportunities clear at goal (including his penalty)

Btw if you wanna complain about someone not winning a d'Or or a Fifa POTY, do the honest thing and cry about Xavi and Iniesta never winning one (and never will)

PSA: In Venezuela we don't have Tv's we cross the border to Colombia to watch the important games.

But you used it as a positive for Ronaldo in the final, where he was anonymous

Why would Messi win it? He was shit just like cronaldo.

Messi is the best player in the world

He deserves the trophy every year until he retires.

This, tbqh, is the painful truth

Vardy will win it desu

BECAUSE HE WON THEM THE GAME WITH THAT PENALTY HE HAD EVERYTHING RIDING IN HIS SHOULDERS AFTER JUANFRAN MISSED HIS. IT'S TRUE WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT THE BRITS BEING RETARDED ENOUGH TO BREXIT.

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Mahrez will win it one day, that's a fact.

No. Messi should win because he's the superior player.

WEW

>wait until Ronaldo is old to split the awards

UEFAlona REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Le hasnt done shit in a big match since 2011 man
Lel

More like wait till Missi and Ronaldo are can't compete with eachother to split the award. That way the goys will think we're not jewing out.

so what is your point ? messi wouldnt have reached the finals of CA if they hadnt changed the rules to have the centenario tournament. Blaming the rules is absolutely retarded because everybody knows them at the start of the tournament and they did not favour portugal against their competition.

Nobody disagrees that his free kicks were terrible but nobody complained of that when he saved them against Hungary, he also happened to score a free kick which saved madrid against wolfsburg.

Discussing the path that he had to the finals in CL discredits your point that Messi should win because the CA is a cakewalk compared to the Euro and Argentina still lost. Either way it is a retarded argument because neither player has any control over who they play against, you can blame teams like Spain and England for underperforming which stacked the brackets in favour of Portugal.

Check his flag leafy friend.

delet

I didn't mention Messi once in my post. Just pointed out that Ronaldo's trophies should not overshadow his poor performances in those tournaments. Ronaldo winning a Bollon D'or this year would be as meaningless as Messi's player of the tournament award for the Brazil World Cup. Not riding Messi's dick, just saying that Ronaldo did not accomplish much on his own this year.

this award has become shit, is all about popularity and marketing. I've rather eliminate it. but if someone deserves it, is either greaseman or ratking.

>Shevchenko's (2003)
mate...

How many times has he leaded Argentina to WC/Copa America glory? (or at the very least, not ruined Argentina's chances in penalties shoot-outs?

>England
>underperforming
They performed at a standard they were expected to.

What other player has led their national team to glory this year?

Cristiano Ronaldo

Thank you for pointing that out, slipped my mind that he won the Balon d'Or in (2004) for his achievements.

Did you not see what happened the last time?
Go look at who pigfucker voted, go look at which players captains and managers voted
This delusion that retards like schweinsteiger and other top players/managers was debunked the last time when all the voting records were released

>journalists

You people are idiots

This Colombian is mentally ill and obsessed with messi

You must not have saw that I wrote led. Christiano didn't perform well for Portugal at all. Portugal performed for him.

It rubs me the wrong way when people claim these two guys are some supposed GOATs. If you look at their finals records, they are not impressive in the slightest.

He won one in 2004, not 2003 when he came out as GOAT and scored the winning penalty

> If you look at their finals records, they are not impressive in the slightest

What did he mean by this?

Damn, you really don't know anything about football. Watch some more games before posing again.

flag checks out

>Christiano didn't perform well for Portugal at all.

Okay, Iceland and Austria games be damned (He missed a pen and did nothing v. Iceland)

Vs Hungary: Created Nani's goal and Had two goals of his own one from a cross and another one.

Vs. Croatia: Assisted the goal of Quaresma

Vs. Poland: Took his penalty in the shootout

Vs. Wales: Another cross, another goal

Vs. France: He was kill early and made the french feel overconfident which ultimately was what brought their demise.

Anyways, he didn't set the roof on fire but helped the team when they needed him (specially vs hungary).

You make it sound like he was terrible for them and didn't help at all. Portugal sucked as a team, he was a light in the darkness that was this tournament, the final should have been Germany - Italy but instead we got this bullshit.

He is for sure the best padder vs. teams with single digit budgets

Messi
>2006 CL Finals
Did not even play
>2009 CL Finals
Bailed out by a late goal thanks to Iniesta in the semis, doesn't score the game-winner
>2011 CL Finals
Doesn't score the game-winner
>2015 CL Finals
Doesn't score the game-winner
>2014 WC, 2015 Copa, 2016 Copa Finals
Failed

Ronaldo
>2008 CL Finals
Gets bailed out by Scholes in the semis, scores MUs only goal in the final but then misses his penalty
>2014 CL Finals
Does not score game-winner
>2016 CL Finals
Does not score game-winner
>2004 Euros
Does nothing nearly all game and misses his 1v1 chance with the GK
>2016 Euros
Plays 15 minutes in the final, effectively doing nothing

much rather have drogba on my team tbqh

This might be the dumbest post I've ever read on Cred Forums

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well go ahead and refute it my man

He won the 2003-2004 season Balon d'Or, are you baiting?

Ballon d'Or is an award for a calendar year, not a season. Shevchenko won it for the year 2004.

And even if it was then he scored that pen in the 02-03 season which still doesn't qualify.

So you don't even know how and for what the Ballon d'Or is awarded and you're most likely underaged since you don't even remember when the Juve-Milan final took place.

Messi won several CL finals and semi finals literally on his own.

You're right, doesn't make you right about Cristiano Ronaldo though and Sheva won that award for his accolades the previous season and you know that, Polishski fellow.

CL Finals
>Does not score game-winner

Should have stopped reading at the flag