Not so fast, Detroit.
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Mets.
Mets
Literally 10 Cy Youngs in this image.
>tfw no MiLB gf
thanks based rockies
>tfw no salary cap, salary floor, and 50/50 revenue sharing
New York Metropolitans
...
>mfw the Doyers are unironically the team who is best equipped to beat the Cubs in the NLCS
>mfw the doyers almost swept them with 3 rookies.
>implying the cubs will beat whichever team wins the ALCS
Speaking from experience, all the doyers need is one meme player to hit surprise dongers and they will beat the cusb if they play them
kershit can still suck and it would work
Preferably someone with a fitting last name
>surely this one regular season series is enough to determine how the playoffs will go!
Retarded Cusb fans figured out last year that regular season series don't mean shit.
Also, how the Doyers the best equipped to beat them?
This sounds like an incognito DG post
cusb fans on suicide watch in a few weeks yes/no
Remember when they said it would be an easy sweep for the Jays @ Seattle?
jay grilli has no chill
love the passion
>memeiners
>Terry Collins says Stephen Matz ready to go for Friday
so by what time tomorrow do they announce he needs surgery and they shut him down for the year? taking bets
Certaintly not tomorrow but he'll be diagnosed with a "strain" in his UCL and put on the 15 day and then he'll be ready. For real this time tho.
I feel really bad for mariners fans.
JUST
They'll still win dude
fuck off
>Retarded Cusb fans figured out
lol no they didn't
Probably not, even if they lose it won't be any different in character to the losses the Cubs have suffered in the past.
Just the fact that they're outnumbered 3:1 at their home park really makes me sad
And that's coming from a Nats fan.
You can say this about any fan base, of course most people just remained dumb ass homers
It will be worse, because they have faced no adversity this season and so it feels like this is their destined year to win it all. I honestly think the >rags dispose of the cubs in 6 games
Goodbye A's, see you next year
How have they not faced any adversities? They played over a month of barely .500 baseball, the only reason they look like such heavy favorites is because they were in good mode at the start of the season and in August.
Plus the Gints going full retard helped too.
No one with a brain thinks the Cusb are guaranteed.
>I honestly think the >rags dispose of the cubs in 6 games
They could. But it'll be Kershaw and Rich Hill who dispose of those pussies.
>the SHITTY of Memedwin Diaz
So who can stop the Cubs now? If they win the pendent, they just have to take one away game from the baby league. Tradinals, NEETs, Doylers are confirmed swept.
Gnats and Murts are the only teams I can see being any sort of threat. Any chance that the Fishsticks unleash some meme magic to get the wild card and the Cubs get to avenge their playoff loss to them finally?
>How have they not faced any adversities?
they have had almost no major injuries, none of their pitchers got hurt, all of their young players have come up and played well, none of their older players broke down, the best closer in baseball happened to land right in their lap at the deadline, their division sucked, they've been heavy favorites from start to finish, etc.
aside from schwarber getting hurt and I honestly cannot think of one thing that has gone wrong for them
red sox vs. orioles
It must suck to play at home and have almost everyone on the crowd cheer for the other team.
So they played OVER .500 baseball one month and that's adversity? That makes no sense.
it has to be the most depressing thing to be in a playoff run and have no fans at home to cheer you on.
delete this post.
delete this post and have almost everyone on the crowd cheer for the other team
>So who can stop the Cubs now?
Hello newfriend, how is your first season of watching baseball going?
Dodgers almost swept the Cubs with three Rookies last month. Then before that tool 2 of 3 in Chicago. Kershaw has two CGSO against the Cubs over the last 14 months with 13K's and 14K's.
Stay blind cuck boy.
Nats also have a 2-10 record again the Dodgers.
mets vs. barves
>Regular season records always translate to the postseason
Why are the Rangers so based?
I thought you faglords said them winning games by 1 run would be unsustainable? What happened? Are the Rangers just that fucking Clutch?
What's with the 14 year olds in Blue Jays threads anyway?
are you new?
Anyone have that picture of Kershaw showing how he's the only player to give up 7+ runs in back to back postseason starts or something like that, where he's hanging his head?
To Blue Jays threads? Yeah.
You don't see that much autism even on Dodgers gamethreads, what the fuck.
>The KC Royals are 5 WC games behind
>This man has 7 blown saves
Hmm really makes u think
OUTTA
OUR
WAY,
YA
BIG
GOONS
They came September/October last year when the blue jays clinched
Now it's between people who actively want the team to fail, and people who are blinded by faith. It's pretty shitty, which is why I don't go in em
And yet Bluegays fans will defend it via insults
Just watch and wait
They would be behind by more if they didn't keep getting free wins off the whos
>watch and wait
kek, not ever going to click another Jays gamethread
>The Seattle Mariners are 3 games behind a WC spot and have a total of 13 blown saves between Vincent and Cishek
Hm. Really makes u think.
I'm a life long cubs fan since 2015 and if you think a team can just look at how the Mets swept them last year and using that. They're going to end up with high pitch counts before even 4th inning because the Cubs are a lot more disciplined at the plate compared to the 'Swing at everything' approach you saw from people like Rizzo and Russel;
>The San Francisco giants have 24 blown saves between 4 different pitchers and are the second NL wildcard
Hm really makes u think.
>Sale's last hopes for cy young already gone
>not even a thread
fug
Was just going to ask for one, damn rbo slacking
Anons, I chose to bandwagon Atlanta Braves for some reason a few years ago, then went to jail. I´m out now and thinking about actually watching their games and get back to bandwagoning them, how fucked am i?
eh, no point now
I'll probably just watch other games
It knew it died the moment melky couldn't catch that fly ball.
you'll fit right in with the fanbase
Shorterm: absolutely anally fucked
Longterm: You'll be fine if the prospects don't bust
Might as well jump onto the bandwagon now while it's empty
>1st and 2nd bases loaded
>zero outs
>ends up being a scoreless inning
and that's why he should be dh
he's so bad, it's embarrassing
> decide to improve my life
> get back in school, get gf
> no time to shitpost
> no money for booze
i get a few hours tonight lads but this shit is brutal
Just post it so we can laugh at you
???
Post the roast? :^)
DUDE
>bases loaded
>Man on 1st and 2nd
>bases loaded
BR in charge of words
Thanks for the (You) though.
Marlins Park is a cavernous piece of fucking ass
> sports stadium in florida
> not a complete disaster
pick one
GARY SANCHEZ
A
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Y
S
A
N
C
H
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>Another day of this Gary Sanchez thing
You could always make the thread. No need to wait.But yeah, dreams crushed, no hope, etc. If the thread got 30 replies, that would still be a lot.
the mets were 0-7 against the cubsin the reg season last year
How about the postseason?
:^)
At what point is it ok to be completely embarrassed to be a fan of a team?
This is literal cuckoldry
guys Chris Sale's cy young bid ended tonight
Tell us something we don't know.
APOLOGIZE
Who should I bet on tonight lads?
thats what i was intending
Welp
It's an annual tradition anyways
The White Sox getting swept in Cleveland.
Apologize to Kershaw first.
It's been over a week.
ANGELS vs. rags
>5 innings
I'm quivering with fear
wew
White Sux lel
how do you support such a hopeless franchise?
Officially dead and buried.
And now someone's pissing on the grave.
Sorry you couldn't go longer than 5 man.
Your bumass team would have been perfexto'd by the greatest to ever live had it not been for the rain.
Say youre sorry.
remember to never trust josh donaldson
Because that's how this worlds works
Well at least we won that meaningless Crosstown cup
>Would've been perfecto'd
>Gave up an error, and a hit in the 5th inning
I know you don't understand what a perfect game is, but come on
>won the cup by tying against the cubes in back to back years
Might as well rename the BP Cup to the "At least we didn't lose Cup."
don't worry guys, the white sox celebration thread this october will be even bigger than last season
>sac bunts are bad
>if pillar sack bunted, the jays would have won
>the mariners win because of a sack bunt
why do mariner fans bother posting when they literally know nothing about baseball?
>22 minute rain delay
Still perfect
>56 minute rain delay
Still perfect
ummm????
You don't think those delays disrupted the flow of Kershaw? Im done fàm ur just a hating ass nigga.
Even changing up his approach and mechanics this year to last longer still didn't help him finally achieve the dream
We're destined to not be allowed any happiness
And he'll most likely be traded first thing in the offseason
Yep... I root for this team... Yep...
Yep...
Even if he hadn't have given up that hit, it wouldn't have been a perfect game.
That's even assuming he would've been able to keep it for 4 more innings
So, bunting really does work.
Honestly surprised how the Jays lost the game though.
It's a good thing Bautista flipped his bat just to end up losing anyway
What a cunt that guy is.
>flipped his bat
he literally didnt you dumbass
We both watched that game. Kershaw went through that lineup like he was throwing against the Dodgers. That's how shit the Yanks looked that day. That team was endangered of being perfexto'd or at the least no-hit.
he won't be traded
and he's lucky to have even been in the cy race. and every other pitcher is shit too
If he couldn't no-hit the Yankees after a rain delay, what makes you think he would do it 6+ innings into a game after only pitching 3 innings for the previous two months?
There's delusion, and then there's (You).
discuss
>Canadian implying he knows anything about baseball.
You're right, though. There are a lot of fellow Ms fans that don't know baseball.
Now... the Blue Jays have to go back.
>Joe Girardi
>Jim Tracy
Funny shit. God bless him.
How are there worse bullpen managers than Gibbons? Is Manny Acta alive?
so you're not gonna post it?
Stop stop Sale's already dead
>betts will win MVP
>porcello will win cy young
>ortiz will make the hall of fame
>the red sox will win the worlds eries
Thanks user, took the Phillies at -3.5
>tanaka
Shaking my fucking head.
F
only one that's true is cy
>trout
>fat, HGH
>no
hes gonna slip on a baseball in the dugout and shatter his kneecap
How are the Cubs going to blow it?
with one strike awa... wait thats another team
3-0 lead in the world series, two run lead in the ninth inning of game seven
chapman hits a batter and walks two, then some scrub reliever gives up a tater
>2016
>People STILL pitching to Sanchez
Why does this happen?
>not intentionally walking gary sanchez, JUST
only needs 3 more homers to lead the team. Beltran is still the team leader in homers.
Solo dinger man strikes again on solo dinger team
*to tie the team leader
mfw solo dinger sox vs solo dinger rays soon
>7 home runs hit between them today
>7 total runs
based alexei will be back too, hope he gets a nice ovation, best non pitcher on the team for several years. looks like this might (should) be his last season too
Go red sox, twins, and mariners!
>wearing baseball pants pulled up to your knees
wtf i hate 2004 now
>betts will win MVP
got that right familia
Question, under what circumstances would you root for the yankees in a world series?
always desu
pretty much
never
Vs the Cubs or Doyers
if them winning it would get me a qt gf
Against the Mets
Just start following them now so you can claim you followed them before they got good because they suck absolute dick right now
Honestly you should be glad that a team sucks when you start to follow them especially if you are out of state. My family team is the Red Sox and I'm sorta hiding it until the sox suck so I don't get called a bandwagoner
having a qt gf isn't all it's cracked up to be m8
Never
shut up
all your spending money goes into the relationship whether you want it to or not
your alone time completely evaporates
every decision you make is weighed against its potential damaging effect
Only if they broke the rules and tried to play the eries against the >rags
>Familia
JUST
But it's all worth it if she's an incredible person that you love more than your own self
Not really bro. Go fuck a pussy and get over it. Or don't. It might be best to enjoy that fantasy.
> more than your own self
>loving someone more than yourself that isn't your mom
>watching too many movies
>>Cred Forums
>>reddit
These are both extremes that are both terrible. Just don't lose your head while dating and don't overvalue dumb whores.
yeah im much better off pissing my money away on the dumb shit i do now while being miserable right?
in some ways, yeah
fuck off chad
You basically will be throwing away your money at dumb shit only that dumb shit with will a person. Just find friends that will let you fuck them once in a while or just a legit bfw at work or school.
Fwb*
>Just find friends that will let you fuck them once in a while
yeah because thats totally easy and simple right
Thanks for the $10 user
normalfag dodgers fan here.
We are 1 and done again
who /mrrobotfinale/ here
someone fire up that Giants-doyers thread
PHILLIES WIN FAGGOTS HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
ur dumb af. There number of shut in girls who enter college as virgins is higher than you think. Go fuck one.
>loving your mom more than your gf
Wait I thought Lou Gehrig died
>another phils fan
#rare
fuck you faggot ass faggot ass bitch nigger faggot
what i do
>#rare
post IASIP not really
we're all frenetics here
>idiotic tripfags giving relationship advice
What the heck, y'all
yeah i didn't mean it like that, a few years ago there were a lot of us.
i know they're here, but no one ever wants to watch the games
Dodgers Giants #3
Dodgers Giants #3
Dodgers Giants #3
>the bay of tampa
oh shit I didn't know you were a phillies fan too.Thought you were making fun of the fact that there aren't many here.
So Sale's officially out of the CYA conversation?
Its really awful advice too
t. Actually had dated people
Yeah. I don't think even 2 CGSOs to close out the season would do it.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Boston Red Sox MVP
Wait what happened to sale? What did I miss? Did they have another throwback night?
He got beat up by the Phillies tonight.
Did he blow it even worse than Betances?
Its between Kluber and Porcello at this point
>imblying quintana
Actually
>his actions contributed to 5 unearned runs
It was equally as bad
Welp I actually didn't feel as bad about Sale's cy young dreams going dead as I did about Q's a couple weeks back
Poor Jose Quintana, he deserves so much more
Gods, this team...
>1-0 Os, Boston has sacks full
>Overthrow to first to try and get last out, two runs get in
>Next pitch a dinger
Who's to say Ben SegaGenesis wouldn't have homered in the next inning, but a tie is less devastating than allowing 5 runs after an error.
>Familia
JUUUUUUUST
Post yfw Gary Memechez tests positive for PEDs this offseason
If hes smart, hed never fail it
But i wouldnt be surprised at all if he did
Red Sox pitching has been below 1.00 era for over a week straight
...
At least he tried.
That's a pretty solid Yankees impression that the Orioles have got going on desu
with price taking the mound tomorrow
E-Tip is such a qt tbqh with you joe, he gets so easily emotionally stirred
The Braves had the worst batting average in MLB before the all star break and the best since, what is this sorcery?
Are the Cubs really that good? Their division has two garbage teams, one mediocre team, and one team that is "decent." It's the worst division perhaps outside the AL West.
Well they definitely arent bad, but maybe a tad bit overrated as the NL is weak this year
damn, what a catch
amazing
HOLY FUCK
CESPEDES ROBBED OF A GAME WINNING HOME RUN
BTFO 2 STRAIGHT GAMES
daaamn, that's gotta be the catch of the year
circumstances not even withstanding
METS ON SUICIDE WATCH
HOLY HELL WHAT A CATCH
HAHAHA FUCKING KILL ME
the catch was average friend, nice run tho
fuck the barfs
Get off your phone, Yoenis
windians!
>suck all year
>get to ruin mest season
even now there is hope
>its a your team gets BTFO and will be the top play on sportscenter for the next 24 hours game
>"That's a great catch. The best you'll ever see."
Terry Collins is such a fucking retard.
...
2 (TWO)
Love it
Now I have to root for the fucking Dodgers again.
FANS
>unironically swept by the Barves
>unironically batting .240
>gints
JUST
Thank god we swept the fucking Twins, just realize how fucked we could be right now if it wasn't for that. Especially Grandy god
You tell yourself that as the Mest get flooded by the Jints/Cards
whoops forgot muh trip, still new to this
Dope fucking catch but I think Hamilton's diving catch is the best of 2016. This is a close 2nd.
>Mets lose
>Cardinals lose
>Marlins lose
>Giants going to lose
>Pirates winning and can't seem to lose in Milwaukee anymore
Not like this.
>that catch
>average
Thanks for letting us know you only started watching baseball when the Mets made the playoffs last year.
HAHAHAHAHAHHA FUCK THE METS YOU PIECES OF SHIT WILL MISS THE PLAYOFFS AND FADE INTO SUB .500 BASEBALL FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS YOU FAGGOTS HAHAHAHA
GO PHILS
>b-but our record is better than the phillies
yeah right now.Congrats on being better than a rebuilding franchise.Phillies will be top 10 in the next 5 years.Mets had their chance and memed it away.
>M-m-m-mad
no I'm laughing at your shitty team
PHILS
...
...
Gotchu familia, whoops, didn't mean to trigger anybody!!!
>th-that c-catch was average
hey guys just stopping over from the red sox subreddit to wish the yankees good luck on their wild card push! would be very fun!
>tfw white sox fan
>this is a close 2nd
are you serious?
>the NL Wild Card
>implying that the AL west is worse than the AL central
Yes. Got a problem with that?
>10/15 al teams have a winning record
>6/15 nl teams have a winning record
Really makes your frontal lobe work overtime
It is though.
Price has been good lately, he's actually playing to expectations
Tillman will be a mystery. Good numbers on the Sox, but if his usual shitty first inning gives up enough runs it might be enough for Price to be calm, and Sox to win.
We'll see though. Hope we can get at least one.
yea i do. you sound like a jays fan
O's, you promised us the ALCS!!
You promised senpai!!
Good gracious that was a gorgeous play
Best Phillies post ever btw
archive.4plebs.org
G-g-gomen...
We still might. Just need to do it from the card, and get the >rags
>Tonight's game has been postponed. We will begin a new game at 2:10 ET tomorrow followed by our regularly scheduled game at 8:10 ET.
is this supposed to be funny?
If we're going by average winning percentage then no. What other stat would you use to determine this, btw?
It is, now don't @ me again silly Leaf
Interdivision records
The AL West is utter garbage, and their best team is a complete fluke that's benefitted from playing the A's, Angels, and Houston for a number of games this season, with their hardest intra-division opponent being a non-playoff Seattle team.
The ALW is straight doggo
Is Gary Sanchez on roids?
For sure senpai, good luck with the remainder.
The rags are a fluke, and the a's and angels are garbage, but the mariners and Astros are legitimately good teams.
Fair enough
does my leaf trigger you?
The Astros are good, but being unable to beat the Rangers and having that huge drop-off middle of the season, they're out of it. The Mariners are just September spoilers, imo.
no hable a mí o mi hijo nunca más
>but the mariners and Astros are legitimately good teams.
false
Aye. Likewise. Thanks for Bourn again. Hasn't been in this series that much but he's been great in the last few.
Hell, Tommy "Stairs" Hunter too
71401049
It's not that you're a leaf, it's that you're an autist
I'm still not giving up hope til the moment they're eliminated. But yeah, next year pretty much hinges on their ability to figure out the rags.
Which division Is the strongest overall?
Ok Dwight "Doc" Schrute don't get too upset now
AL East
The AFC south
ALE
Of course. All they need is a few quality starters and the 'Stros will reverse the status quo next season. Maybe another reliable bat, but any team with Altuve, Correa, and consistently good pitching will be playing in October. I honestly don't see the Rangers getting beyond round one.
At least you aren't in the cellar this year. Team has to be fun to watch again.
This. Yankees post deadline run should be a testament to the strength of the div, even as Os slow down and Jays can't make up their minds.
>3 playoff contending teams
>1 team with best offense in baseball
>one other with the best homerun power in baseball and the other is in canada
>and then even the shittier teams are annoying and good, the yankees are almost in the WC hunt even
The East by far.
Honestly if we can just get 2015 Keuchel back then I truly believe that would make enough of a difference. McHugh is solid, McCullers is solid when healthy, and Fiers is better than most no. 5 starters. Fister probably won't stick around so we need to get a decent no. 2 sp in the offseason. Even if that doesn't work out super great, there are enough good young minor league arms that'll be solid major league pitchers by next all star break.
The >rags won't meme their way through the season next year, and they no longer have the minor league depth to sustain themselves. I'm excited.
AL East. Someone from the AL East is winning it all this year
DESU I could understand loving your wife more than your mom but loving a GF is just faggy
>Hansen catches Mest predator
>Barves catch Mest HR balls
Looks like the Mest can't catch a break
>he didn't get the joke
>yfw the giants beat the dodgers
>Anibal Sanchez tomorrow
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK YOU RAIN
How mad will you be when the Pirates meme their way to another wild card?
>mfw another 1 and done Bucctober
>rags
AL East
teams in order of current standings within division:
Boston Red Sox
Toronto (Canada) Blue Jays
Baltimore Orioles
New York Yankees
Tampa Bay (Florida) Rays
only the Rays have no chance of going to the playoffs, only the Rays aren't significantly above .500 w/l rate
What did the Tigers mean by this?
>vs CHW
>vs MIN
REEEEEEEEEE REMOVE FREE WINS
Terrance Gore: caught
>MLB not including Roberto's reaction
vine.co
who are the rookie of the year locks in each league?
All of those one-run wins are the devil's luck. Still wins, obviously.
>Donald Trump to throw 1st pitch at Mondays Rangers / Brewers game
WTF?!?!?!?
AL = Mookie Betts
these giants dodgers games have been gr8 baseball
except this one it's kind of a blowout
Mookie Betts has been in the league for 2 years now.
He's the MVP winner though.
B I G B E R T O
He is a promising defensive catcher, just need to work on more consistent hitting, which has has been lately.
>Next year: a healthy Brantley and Gomes
Whew lad
trout is having a better year, and altuve was until recently
>Trout is having a better year
no
>altuve was until recently
lol no
>Gary Sanchez is the rookie of the y...
nice arguments, my every advanced metric trout is the better all around player, especially waying in defense
also altuve is WAAAY more valuable to his team, red sox have a ton of great bats
Amsinger is never wrong
Source or it's not happening
Imagine the triggering
Okay but is Front Row Amy going to be there?
This. The red sox would still be at or near the top of their division without Betts, but the Astros wouldn't even be contenders without Altuve. And trout is definitely a better player than Betts.
>waying in
P U I G
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>my every advanced metric trout is the better all around player, especially waying in defense
Great english.
And it's debatable how much more offensive output Trout generates than Mookie. Particularly considering Mookie played in the fucking leadoff spot all season untilmid august.
And defensively, Mookie has been just as sound as Trout
fangraphs.com
>also altuve is WAAAY more valuable to his team, red sox have a ton of great bats
lol
Berto starts out slow, though this season the thumb injury and rushing off the DL had a lot to do with it.
Does anyone overrated their players more than red cucks fans?
they genuinely think porcello has a cy young bid
>especially waying in defense
Defense is the one thing Mookie beats Trout in. By a landslide.
>3.08 ERA
>.98 fucking WHIP
espn.com
lmao but ok
Sanchez leads the AL for WAR among rookies:
>Sanchez: 2.9
>Devenski: 2.7
>Fulmer: 2.5
>Naquin: 2.1
Now take into account that Sanchez has played for less than two months while the others have played for most of the season.
ya but poochez is on steroids tho
Kluber is better m8, the only thing Porcello has is he goes all the way more than anyone.
>Vin Scully will die in your lifetime
How do I prepare myself for this terrible feel
If you want to argue Porcello vs Kluber, then ya fine that makes sense, but don't fucking tell me Rick the Dick doesn't deserve a CY look.
Get a piñada
It'll be a tight race
>Autismo unironically a top ten pitcher in the AL
Why is this allowed?
Does this shit make any sense? Looks like it's weighted on wins and losses, but ESPN isn't that memey right?
Yeah but how many hits does that bum have off Fulmer
>4/5 of the Tigers 2014 rotation will have a Cy Young
>David Price has a higher WAR than Porcello
god why is fangraphs WAR so fucking shit jesus
yeah i would say sale and tanaka are right there too, the former killed his hopes today by being dong'd by one of the worst offensive teams in the league.
>Now take into account that Sanchez has played for less than two months
Exactly why he can't be ROTY
Why are the I ndiands winning so much many game? Their pitches are dead and they have pretty bad bats?
this i'm a yankees fan but unless sanchez finishes with like 25 dingers he's not getting it
that is not entirely impossible
Price has a better FIP and xFIP, so that's why that happened. Here's baseball-reference's top pitchers by WAR for reference.
He has well over 130 at-bats, so he's qualified. If his stats are better in a two month period than everyone else's are for the entire season, the voters would be retarded not to take that into account.
same here, i love Sanchez but Fulmer is taking it
>10. Michael Pineda
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHHA. they must like him because of his high strikeout rate and his low-ish walk rate
That listing makes a lot more sense. Fangraphs' pitching metrics are so flawed.
>If his stats are better in a two month period than everyone else's are for the entire season
Sample size matters
>WAR
>not a meme stat
100 innings of 1.43 ERA
>this "English"
Bullpen and the 2nd best offense in the AL
>Sam Dyson
What the actual fuck?
lay off the sauce
I liked his outing against the Red Sox.
7 innings of 3 run ball @ Fenway was pretty good
Exposed meme desu, but nice time get tho
>Porcello number 1
>Happ in the top ten, let alone #2
>britton
wew lad
What about the other one babe :^)
He's better than Betances
Literally have no idea what you are talking about and I have 0 recollection of it
If you haven't noticed, Yankees fans have been calling for Betances head for about a month now. No one thinks he's good this year
who will defeat the cusb
>Cusb vs. Tards, NLDS
>Cusb up 2-0
>Game 3, 9th inning, game tied at 1, Hendricks out for a complete game and catches a line-drive with his face, later revealed he'll be out til at half-way through least next year. With two on, two outs, and two strikes, a weak fly-ball to outfield falls right in front of Szczur after he loses the ball in the lights.
>Cusb up 2-1
>Game 4, Arrieta starts, Chicago up 2-0 in the 5th when an inside pitches veers into Arrieta's hand, ending his post-season early when it turns out all the pilates in the world doesn't put the bone back together. Throws-Balls-and-Hits-Women-Really-Hard Man gives up the game winning 3 run HR in the 9th inning.
>Series tied up 2-2
>Cubs up by one, top of the 9th. Bases loaded, two outs, Chapman comes on. First pitch strike at 102 mph, strike one. Second pitch strike at 105 mph. Strike two. Third pitch, Chapman's arm literally explodes, his arm flops around like a stretch arm strong. His screaming is clearly through live television feed. The ball drops straight down and stops only few feet away from the writhing Chapman. One run scores, game is tied, but Rizzo gets to the ball, barehands it as Pham charges is around third. The throw is wide, but it's a close play.
>Safe.
>Cards leads by one.
>Chapman is still screaming.
>The camera pans into the audience, everyone looks on in horror and disbelief.
>The cameraman passes over the Cards dugout, but doubles back to the scene.
>Something is visible in the stairway into the visitor clubhouse.
>Something small in the darkness. It looks like a four legged animal just peeking out of the doorway.
>Bottom of the 9th, Cubs go 1-2-3 all on three called strike-outs.
>The ballpark is completely silent, but as the victorious Cardinals give post-game interviews, one can hear bleeting in the distance.
>One week later, Ricketts announces that he has sold the Cubs, and the new owner will relocate them to Montreal.
Which fanbase is worst: cusb, stankees, or bluegays?
They will spend hundreds of years scouting the world.
They will draft every bust; overpay every free agent.
They will spend thousands of seasons in last place.
As World Series are played, and playoff games won, and lost, and won, lost, and won, and lost, and lost, and lost.
Failures built upon failures until seasons run on an endless loop.
They will disappoint millions of fans whose own exponential offspring will slowly give up hope through the years, whose millions of pitiful lives will eventually be swept again from the Earth.
And still, the Cubs continue to lose.
They will play more games than any franchise in history, yet a championship will forever be a stranger to them.
Expansion franchises will come and go.
Cities and mascots will lose all meaning.
Until Major League Baseball vanishes entirely from the world.
And yet, the Cubs will continue to lose.
They will join the league of a popular futuristic sport.
A sport where the ball is made of pure light and played on a field of energy. Where the Cubs moniker is revered as a nostalgic god.
And the Cubs will never win it all, for millions and millions of years.
Rebuilding, playing, losing...
...until the Earth is swallowed beneath their feet
...until the Sun is long since gone
...until time itself loses all meaning
And the moment comes where the only game left to play is to guess the positions of stars and the ages of galaxies.
And still, they guess wrong.
Your favorite team's
But that's none of those, man
did a cardinals fan write this to jerk off to or what
what's your favorite team?
They will lose, and they will lose, until the lights go out.
We have some awful fans but nowhere near as bad as the three teams I listed
Are you guys ready?
where were u guys during the summer? seemed like you guys just came back when you're inching closer to a wc spot
>they got approval from the San Diego Padres baseball club to create this pseudoscience sjw trainwreck of a tv show
I truly hate this world
based Brad Miller
told you fuckers he would be great
I like it
I can't speak for anyone else, but I had a crazy work schedule in the summer and took a break from Cred Forums in general as well. I make it as often as I can.
ONE
AFTER
JACKIE
kek, Houstonians are some of the most annoying people I've ever meet. I don't understand why you guys have so much pride for such a shit city.
Are they actual Houstonians or Katrina exodus?
Can anyone even tell anymore?
t. the literal most obnoxious tripfag on this board
>King's Court
I don't think it even matters at this point desu. Their pride for the city literal rivals that of what New Yorkers have towards NYC. I don't understand it.
Cry more faggot
>Canadians
take the L, man. the jays already eliminated us
>complaining about one of the only """""decent""""" trips
Hes not even remotely as bad as DG or Tiki
>Their pride for the city literal rivals that of what New Yorkers have towards NYC. I don't understand it.
Kek have you ever been to Houston? The only thing we're proud of relating to our city is that we're better than Dallas. Most people here are wetbacks that don't give a crap about city pride. You're retaredede.
>damage control false flag tripfags aren't even trying to be convincing anymore
Yes, I go to A&M, and I have to deal with Houstonfags on a daily basis. They all act like Houston is the greatest city on god's green earth, despite the fact that it's absolute shit. You're delusional of you think that Dallas is worse than Houston.
I think it's because it's supposedly the most cosmopolitan city in Texas, from what I've heard. Dallas is the big urban/suburban zone, Austin is the lefty center, and apparently Houston the trendier, up and comer of the big TX cities. They feel like it's their NYC because they don't know better.
t. Former tri-state fag
stop posting
>People don't share the same opinion as me, so they must be same fagging
Again, cry more faggot
244 HR allowed
>tfw I dont even know how fast I can pitch because I have no friends to throw with
throw at a highway patrolman with a radar gun. he will tell you your pitch speed before he kills you
>A&M
There's your problem. Not saying everybody that goes there is bad, but the ones from Houston are literal mongoloids. You've been tricked, mister.
i'll be ur friend user :3
This. Yank trips are pretty decent guys. Knowledgeable, coherent, post nice refrigerators in game threads, better than Yankee fans I grew up around.
I'll catch flak for this as a trip and a O, but they ain't bad.
You're the only good trip
this is not a false flag post
It's not even just people that are directly in Houston though, it's anyone that lives anywhere remotely close (ie. The Woodland, Conroe, etc.) I don't understand loving a city so much that you actively follow high school sports from that area when you're in college, and then brag about those high schools when they are doing well in sports (which many people that I've met from the Houston area do).
Fuck Texas Wankees but I been to Huston. That place is full of goons.
The girls there are ride or die types. Which is cool. The white people from there are a different breed.
Guess who's fucking back baby
Idk, that could be true. About 90% of my encounters with Houstonians are at A&M, so the results are pretty skewed if that's the case
Someone who has been immediately added to the filter
>its a tripfag episode
good night
Yeah, anything relating to high school sports is useless and idiotic. But what you don't seem to get is that those pieces of crap aren't the Astros fan base. They're the ones who constantly talk crap to the actual Astros fans here and more often than not hop on the >rags bandwagon.
fuck man how you been? i miss you trolling mets game threads, it's been surprisingly quiet lately.
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Yeah, most real Astros fans that I've talked too know their shit, but the vast majority of them are bandwagoners for the sake of muh Houston pride. I actually don't have any problems with the Astros fans on this board, you guys seem like you know your shit, and you don't excessively shitpost.
it's ogre
there will be no orange tittays tonight
>Giants
JUST
In other news, the >mest fucking suck, the barves and phillies will go back to dominating the NL East within a couple years, and chris sale is an overrated hack.
go dodgers, bring utley a chip home
A-user...y-you....
(I hate that I fell into the trip crowd but it's too late now. Thanks tho m8)
Quit being a fucking faggot, man.
LET'S TALK BASEBALL
I FUCKING LOVE BASEBALL
Good gracious I hate the reputation some of our fans give us. You're right, the ones that actually watch baseball actually know their stuff, but there are way too many casuals that just go to games for fundraisers or some other stupid crap.
And I try to not be a total dick on here. Like I said, I can't speak for the other Astros fans, but it's good to be here when I can be.
Das wassup. NL gonna be Phillies/Dodgers/ATL for a WHILE after 2018.
Phillies payroll will be literally 0
Dodger payroll will be 60M
Atlanta payroll already is nothing.
We all do you sperg
Grats on clinch btw. Who is most and least ideal matchup from the Wild Card winner for the Ottomans?
Guys felix pitched a great game today
the world isn't ending :')
I'm tri-state too and follow the red sox because my family does, why do you follow the Orioles rather than the Mets/Yankees?
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daily reminder
Every team don mattingly has left has had success and a WS or two repeat afterword
Leaves Yankees
4 WS
Leaves Dodgers
?????
>Kenta Maeda has won more games for the Dodgers than Madison Bumshit has won for the Giants.
More shit you just can't make up
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Thank you, Felix
I think its safe to say Matt moore was a collossal waste of time and money
Sleep tight
Yikes famm
Just kill me lol
if my math's right he's earned over 5.5 mil this year
My pops has been O's since he moved down to DMV over 20 years ago. Never really caught on with Yankees, even though my step dad was a fan and grew up during the dynasty. Even in NJ we always thought Ripken was cool back in the day, and Os have been a nice bonding point with the ol man.
Also I was west central NJ, so it was more Yankees/Phillies territory for committed baseball fans, with some Mets.
Bumgarner is enough to empty out a farm. Why don't they just trade him? Serious suggestion. Not like they're winning anything anytime soon.
Dang it, Detroit, just finish your game already. What are you afraid of, water? Scared you'll get wet? And here we all were hoping for a Minnesota tWIN tonight. Shaking my head.
Shelby Miller has 3 quality starts out of 18 total starts this year. To put that in perspective, James Shields has 20 starts with the Who's this year and 9 were QS.
Probably more than Bumgarner is making. Giants have no respect for their players. This dude wins you a WS and u give him some bullshit bonus.
Dis aint what you want
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Pissboi really goes out of his way to prove his stupidity when it comes to the giants and baseball
Again, water you scared of, getting a little wet?
yes
I just followed the Patriots passively all my life (because my family is full of dedicated fans, they are from around Providence and Worchester) and then around 16 got into baseball and actively followed football, and decided that for consistancy's sake and to not have my grandparents breathe down my neck I's also follow the sox. I'll almost assuredly end up in New England anyway (18 right now)
Oh I will.
>Magic # can reduce by 3 in one day
Team friendly as fuck contract
We wouldn't get as much as we deserve with him because our FO is a bunch of limp dick faggots (not really, some trades were okay but some were awful I'm just fucking pissed) and he has an extremely team friendly contract
They won't get as much as he deserves because of >muh decreased velocity and >muh innings pitched and because everyone wants to punk the Giants for some inexplicable reason
It's not worth it. And yes pissboi they can win soon, it's just gonna be difficult and a lot of things have to go right for them. Dodgers are forever a joke and will never be thepotentially dominant 100+ win team the Giants were 10-20 years ago
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>mfw cheating whore
>Dodgers are forever a joke
Enough to beat ur bumass team for the division 4 straight years. Possibly for the next decade the way the payroll and projects are looking. That's all besides the point tho, bumgarner is going to waste the prime of his career on a third place giants team. Which is kind of sad but not so much with his 3 rings*
You may only reply to this post if your team has wasted the entire career of a hall of fame generational talent pitcher
JUST
>winning the division is literally the equivalent of having postseason success for Dodgers fans
...come on dude you're joking when you say this kind of stuff right?
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>Giants beating other teams who aren't the Dodgers makes the Giants better than the Dodgers.
>team A and team B both play in the same group
>team A wins the division every year
>team B is somehow better than team A?
I'm reasonable. Ya'll just stupid hating faggots.
>Doyers namefag
>Getting to the post season with most wins in NLW is more important
>Not being shit in the post season is not as important
Shit user you have your priorities backwards if you didn't know.
...is Gronkey trying to be Hey Fuck You?
elbow/bone spurs/Tommy John/shoulder
elbow/arm fatigue
elbow/shoulder/bone spurs
elbow/Tommy John/forearm soreness/ulnar nerve
knee
shoulder/labrum tear
old/fat
>classes finally start tomorrow
I don't think I'll be able to make it through this year. Gonna be cracking out the tsipouro on overtime this week.
Not even what I said at all, you just turned the conversation away from the postseason because you guys can't (or at least haven't) been able to get it done
Not hating, just simple facts. I don't know why they make you mad
Any videos of things similar to Brendan Ryan in this video but where they're able to make it home?
youtube.com
(he makes it home in this one but it isn't as stylish as taking extra bases because of defensive indifference/retardation)
Jeter sucked
don't @ me
but you're right
>10 games left
his defense sucked yea but that's it.
Just kill me famm
Why does life move so fast?
Atleast you can go to the ballpark fucking faggot
I'm stuck with niggers and cellphone stealing strayan wannabes in a baseball-less shithole
>baseball-less shithole
Cleveland?
they're in first place you dumb nigger
When will you come here bro?
Strayan Tiggers bro went to church a month back.
When can you git into our country before Trump locks the borders down?
Huezils interested in babsel are top tier bros, btw.
I'm probably going to Canada before going to USA.
Well, whatever easiest. Pretty sure there are a few minor league teams in Canadia aside from the Blue Jays, so you can catch something depending on when you go.
If you ever do, please give the details here. Always a highlight to hear out-of-scouting markets (though Brazil may be there now) opinions about our noble sport.
It's a relief and sadness at the same time because I still love baseball and season end always gets to me even if our season was already over months ago
mest swept twice at home this year by the barves
>muh free wins
Mr. Met, Im C.F
WC game confirmed for jints vs cards
There's only one minor league team in Canada right now, and I don't think I'd have the guts to go to Canada to watch them without guaranteed tickets. Specially because canadians has the idiot routine of selling out everything they can.
>More runs
>More RBIs
>more HR
>Exact same BA
>More doubles
>Exact same triples
>56 more TB
>Only 1 less SB
>Better fielder (will probably win the Gold Glove)
>Dat smile
How is the MVP even up for debate?
>every advanced stay inferior to Trout
Ok
>Trout plays for a losing team
And there you go, Mookie for MVP.
Don't worry, the only way to go is up now
>you can only be the best player in the game if you are on a good team, even if your stats are superior to everyone else's
This is some incredible logic
MVP should be based on individual performance and impact on team. Not saying that Mookie hasn't made impact or a great season but the Angels would have at least 20 less wins without Trout.
That's some incredible argument.
While Trout was great this season, no doubt, his impact and performance wasn't enough to make his team go over .500, and winning games is also the role of players. Which he kind of failed. And, if that means anything, their division was awful this year.
>tiger hunting
>not a detroit player
I think the tiger stands in for the team lad
>their division was awful
How so?
>1 player must overcome a team's TWENTY game under .500 deficit, or else he's a failure
>furthermore, the Angel's subpar record has nothing to do with a lack of pitching, and good lineups, but everything to do with Mike Trout not carrying his own weight.
Please kill yourself. Promptly.
Nice argument you got there, SHART IN MARTS.
For starters, the A's are awful, Darvish had injuries and the Blue Jays @ Safeco Field series were literally a home game for the canadians.
1 bad team does not a bad division make. And the Rangers have devil magic to win 90+ games a year, injuries don't even matter. And you're literally bringing up one series that they didn't even play in? What the fuck is the point of that?
That Seattle doesn't really care with baseball that much?
It doesn't make sense, Tito and the Indians are going to save Verlander from a tiger?
They aren't hunting WITH tigers, they are hunting FOR tigers
fix it
What does that have to do with Trout?
That his division is stupid and his team failed to reach the .500 club.
Everyone's division is stupid. He's still the best player in baseball and had the best season.
Can you imagine that Angels team without him? They'd be worse than the 2013 Astros or the 2003 Tigers
That's Ausmus, not Verlander. The Tiger and Ausmus are killing each other and the Indians are killing the Tiger.
You are free to believe in that, but I think it's likely we'll see a MVP from a winning team.
>Everyone's division is stupid.
AL East isn't half bad.
You haven't addressed any of my points. Please explain to me how one player is supposed to overcome a 20 game deficit, in addition to the wins he's already worth. At what point is it the teams' fault for not having any depth? Do you seriously believe that the Angels wouldn't be significantly worse off if they didn't have Trout?
>Do you seriously believe that the Angels wouldn't be significantly worse off if they didn't have Trout?
You can't know that unless you go back in time and have Trout be in another team.
Au contraire, we have a stat just for that, my huezilian friend!
Trout is the least valuable player in baseball. Since the Angels didn't make it to the postseason, losing more is more beneficial for the team to put them higher in the draft order. So Trout playing well actually hurts them rather than helps them. LVP
>having a player out for a few matches is exactly the same as not having the player for the whole season
:^)
Yes, we do know that. He leads the MLB in wins above replacement.
That's an awful argument anyways. Should A-Rod not have won MVP in 2003 because the Rangers were a losing team that year? Keep in mind, his WAR was over 1 less than Trout's is this year.
Wow user. When did Mike Trout suddenly become a 20 WAR player? That would make him the greatest player EVER!
Was it the year he was on PEDs?
>Look at schedule
>Won't be able to watch both Wild Card games
Robin for sure
Or else they should just disband the team
Nowhere in the history of ever had a manager been allowed to keep his job after 4 consecutively losing seasons.
Yes, but what does that have to do with his statistical value? Trout is worth more the year A-Rod won, and they're both on losing teams. The "losing team" argument for an MVP candidate is so fucking retarded in baseball
No, nothing. Whatever, the Rangers had a shitty season and A-Rod won the MVP, okay.
I just don't think it's right when the MVP comes from a team that all it does is losing. Good players pull their teams to success. People look at him, and if you ever played sports, you'd know that.
The whos will find a way to make art.
Go watch basketball faggot. No player is good enough to singlehandedly carry their team
>faggot
upvoted
Good players aren't the only reason they're team is successful though. Mike Trout can't pitch. He can't get hits while he's also on base. He can't get clutch hits if his team isn't getting to his spot in the lineup for those situations.
You're asking for Trout to have a 10.1 WAR+the 21 wins needed just to get over .500. You're disregarding someone having one of the greatest seasons ever, just because he's on a losing team.
>Red Sox fags getting smug again
>implying they'll win it all this year
>implying they won't let Cubs break the curse
WE
STILL
IN
THIS
THING
That's not true in basketball either. You put Lebron on the Sixers, they are a 30 win team still.
And despite how hard it is to measure team contribution in a sport like baseball, just watch a fucking Angels game for once. They don't have a trillion bats, just last night Trout hit a clutch 3-run donger that ended up being exactly how many runs they needed. And his defense is still superb.
>yfw altuve wins one for da stros
Nats
damn Jays have been playing .500 ball since the all star break
>contenders
kek
>if it weren't for the Sox the yankees would leading in the wildcard right now
>mfw it could literally still happen
Rest of AL are you even trying to make the playoffs?
>muh last 10 games
Go back 16 and Seattle >>>> Bombston
Is anyone gonna watch the what has to be the oddest qualifier of that cash-grab tournament?
Find a single flaw
>inb4 muh curse
They're just not ready
rizzo's home runs don't go as far as i want them to
>living in an even further past
lot of good that's doing them now
ur not ready for my 12 inch
They clinched too early
>living entirely in the present
No offense but the Sox have major, major flaws that will be exposed. Everyone goes on runs.
That bullpen consistency won't last, and I guarantee you Porcello gives up a fat donger when it matters the most.
You guys gotta pray you get 5+ runs every game.
Jason Heyward has the lowest OPS of any outfielder
Why do the Cubs start him?
>Ty Cobb's career batting average is higher than the Twins' win percentage this year
Wee
Because muh contract
New thread guys.
As a Cubs fan, I have no idea. His defense is superb, but imo the defense should look like this:
C: Conteras/ Ross for Lester
1B: Rizzo
2B: Zobrist
3B: Baez
SS: Russell
LF: Bryant
CF: Fowler
RF: Soler/Coghlan
Heyward can ride the bench and be put in late in the game when defense is needed to preserve the lead.
It's the execs at certified rate.
If you also like the Patriots, Bruins, or Celtics then people won't think you're a Red Sox bandwagoner.
yankees.
i live in NY