So why isn't there a woman pitcher in the MLB anyway?

Women's teams have the best names
two teams from Vancouver, a few years back:

Tulips on the Mound
Toucan Chew

You clearly know nothing about what it takes to play baseball at a major league level.

No woman could ever make it as a slap singles hitter which is the only thing a woman could do with the bat. No woman could ever make it as a pitcher without an extreme level of steroid use (HIGHER than Williams sister level) - at which point what's the fucking achievement exactly?

If you had actually watched the first episode of Pitch you'd know that she has a bionic arm like in that Disney movie. As a 4 year old kid she threw a baseball 100 yards. As a pro she can throw fastballs in the high 80s.

Even if she could throw 90 mph, you gotta be able to put movement on the ball. Hitters can crush 98 mph fastball that come straight, but a 92 mph or even 88 mph fastball that ha movement can be tricky.

If the lady isn't a knuckleball pitcher I don't see how they could make it as a starting pitcher. Maybe a left or right handed specialist in relief but not a starter.

>Do you think a women can throw out a guy at home from SS, or get the ball in fast enough at first to make the double play?

In the entire population of the United States, I'm absolutely certain there'd be at least a few woman who, with the proper training and athletic development, who could be an adequate SS/2B/whatever, yeah. Like, I'm not saying it would ever be anything close to a 50/50 split, or even a 10/90 for that matter. But there'd be some.

In the show she is a screwball pitcher who also has a high 80s fastball. Pic related was her first start in the show and how any woman would actually do if allowed to play in MLB.

because their weak ass bones (see wnba knee injuries) would give her 2 tommy johns with a few years

Because they're banned by the rules of MLB. Even if the rule changed, the only way a woman would ever make it as a pitcher would be as a relief pitcher who mastered a meme pitch like a knuckleball, eephus, forkball, or screwball. That seems to be what they're going for, so at least that's accurate.

Fielder? Sure. Only a bonehead would claim that a woman couldn't adequately play 1B/2B/SS/3B. Adequately is the key word because you wouldn't be able to turn a lot of double plays or get tough outs but you could still perform.

The fact remains that no woman would ever be able to make it as a slap singles hitter because of the power difference between men and women. Too many potential hits would just be easy outs or double plays and the extra 1-2 seconds it would take to reach first base as a woman would make it impossible.

You could go to the extreme extreme and have a woman as an expert god tier level bunting specialist who trained from child in China while being whipped to perfection while learning from a cabal of kidnapped former bunting superstars but if you go to all that trouble why not just teach a man who can do exactly the same thing but get to first base faster?

Maybe, MAYBE 2B

But SS need to have strong arms m8

>3B
'no'

You need a cannon for an arm and insane reflexes to play 3B.

>The fact remains that no woman would ever be able to make it as a slap singles hitter because of the power difference between men and women. Too many potential hits would just be easy outs or double plays and the extra 1-2 seconds it would take to reach first base as a woman would make it impossible.

Again though, you're talking about averages. I'm saying that, again with proper infrastructure to support them in learning the game from childhood up into the minor league, there'd be at least a handful of women who were born with an insane amount of athletic talent and could therefore be an everyday player in the MLB.

Out of the millions and millions of men in the United States, we got a few Mike Trouts, Bryce Harpers, and Kris Bryants. Are you saying that, out of an equally large female population, we couldn't get a handful that could slap the ball hard enough and leg it to 1st base fast enough to play 2nd Base for the Minnesota Twins?

no
>grool ball

Impossible to hit

I've seen women reach 70 mph in softball bro

A lefty specialist throwing 60 mph knuckleballs out of the pen could work.

>they're banned by the rules of MLB

Sauce?

Fucks sake dude

Women and men are different by a LARGE margin

No women, EVER, will make it in ANY top 4 men sport. Even if they are roided out. The bottom 1% of men could achieve what the top 1% of women can do physically

>The bottom 1% of men could achieve what the top 1% of women can do physically

Alright, now you're just trying to be dumb.

i want to see serina williams play running back. that would be fun

When will this meme end

A women wouldn't be able to throw a 60mph knuckler you stupid fuck. She'd be lucky to reach the plate if she tried.

>with proper infrastructure to support them.

Senpai, even with proper infrastructure and doped to the gills, the fastest woman is still almost a full second slower than the fastest man.

10.49 to 9.58

Women are typically 30% weaker lower body and 50% weaker upper body. There's no scenario where a woman not on a literal Rich Piana level steroid cycle who could get enough torque to pull a high average. On the bell curve it would be like a gorilla having an IQ of 160.

could last years wnba champions beat the 76ers?

Its physiology. Men have the brains for sports, women do not. We have a higher amount neurons in our muscles, we have the testosterone.

Shed be better than trent richardson lel

I guess a woman could feasibly play catcher in the AL if you had a pitcher who could also hit.

Nah. Women can't even compete at the elite level in golf.

KEK, no

Five high school All-Americans could beat any WNBA team, including an All-Star team.

serena williams the most manly woman ever, got btfo by a non ranked male

Did anybody else cheer when her cunt of a dad flew through the windshield and died? He was an abusive fucking piece of shit.

Or did no one actually watch the episode? Just make sure to DDL it so that Fox doesn't know. They track torrent downloads and include them in show success metrics so don't do that either.

She was like 16

'no'

Catchers withstand a lot of wear and tear through the season. No way a woman could last as a major league catcher.

>having to throw out runners at second
>catching 95mph heaters
>blocking dirt balls
>taking the tackle at home plate

I don't think so.

I rushed your mother's mound pretty hard last night

LGTSS
>Padres

Again, obviously women aren't as strong or as fast as men. That's obvious and goes without saying. And it would never be "common" to see women in the MLB; like I said, it would never even come close to even a 10/90 split, or even a 5/95.

But there are 157,000,000+ women in the United States. There'd be at least ~5+ of them would hit the genetic lottery and be able to be a league average-ish infielder.

She was 16 but it's also true that the guy wasn't even trying. Most tennisfags I've talked to have said that roidprime Serena could've topped out around 150-200th in the world.

Knuckle ball ≠ same technique as softball pitching. Different mechanics, different muscles, different everything.

im assuming he means within pro athletes

Genetically it's impossible. You'd have to be taking crazy doses of steroids and probably also amphetamines for reaction time. You're underestimating the power generation necessary to even be a singles hitter at a pro level.

You're basically saying "there are 200 trillion ants on planet earth I'm sure one of them is human sized."

Throwing out runners is the only thing that would make a female catcher impossible. Literally anyone who got on first would instantly be on third and there's nothing anyone could do about it. Bartolo Colon would be able to steal against a female catcher.

Actually that's probably the one sport where they feasibly could. Zach Johnson has won majors and been pretty much stone last in driving distance.

Someone like Michelle Wie or Lexi Thompson when they were having a good day could absolutely be a journeyman PGA Tour or web.com tour player.

Prime Serena couldn't beat her hitting partner who was (from memory) a Div 2 college player.

you now remember this french girl last year that got hyped because she was eligible as an international free agent

maybe I'm the only one that remembers

Solid 7

Soft 6

Solid 5

Wie made the cut at a PGA tour event, not a major tho. She finished in the money, but not top-10.

Hard 4

>60 mph knuckleballs
Dream on.

>Solid 7
Inches, amirite fellas?

Friendly reminder knuckleball and knucklecurve are meme balls

Record for baseball pitch by a woman is 69 mph. A 60 mph knuckleball is both ineffective and unrealistic for women

ZJ's won two majors with what is literally a long-hitting woman's swing. I'm not saying it's at all likely but it's by far the sport where it's MOST likely for men and women to compete on a level playing field.

Ironically because the playing field is so far from level.

Here's what fucks potential female pitchers: Tommy John surgery, which is barely more than performance enhancing surgery to artificially encourage unhealthy, unsustainable pitching styles.

>high 80s
So much for realism.

> there'd be at least a handful of women who were born with an insane amount of athletic talent and could therefore be an everyday player in the MLB.
No, you fucking idiot.

Just look at tennis, where the conditions to learn are EXACTLY the same for men and woman.
Prime Williams couldn't even beat a men top 200 probably.

Fucking idiot.

Come on, you keep saying
>but the genetic lottery, and development!
Not even counting all the vast differences in physiology, the MLB is already packed full of the worlds top players.

Even a woman with god-tier control wouldn't be all that feasible because of pitch speed, and how long would they even last? They have weaker bones

they'll push for female pitcher that wears a hijab soon i bet

There are literally 2

At least they picked a black girl desu, a white chick would never be athletic enough

She could always be some meme tier knuckleball mid reliever like the submarine pitchers from a few years ago.

>high 80's

This was actually proven to be correct.

>In the series she is no doubt not going to just participate in the league shes going to thrive and become a top tier player
you just know they're going to pull that shit, even having her at the very bottom wrung of a team is a stretch of the imagination

They need to throw a knuckleball, and throw it faster than a woman has ever thrown a fastball. It will take a long time. We need to start by getting rid of softball and just let women play baseball, idk why softball exists anyway.

On the other hand maybe if a woman dabbed enough she could be signed by a professional team

She never made the cut in a PGA event. She made the cut in some Asian or Euro tour event.

Once Wie came within one stroke of making the cut in a PGA Tour tournament, and another time she missed by two strokes in a PGA Tour event. And that, to us, is more impressive than actually making the cut on the Asian Tour

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>All those stolen bases

Lmfao

sexism

(that and they can't throw fast enough)

This show is bad because the women pitcher isn't Hispanic which makes this unrealistic

Wait, so they pulled her while she was already pitching to a third batter? You can do that? Can you combine for a strikeout?

How many gang bang scenes in the locker room will there be?

Will they put cream in her coffee?

Make a golden chocolate oreo?

How many baseball bats will they shove inside her and how far will they go?

LMAO NO STRIKES

I asked this yesterday. Apparently you can pull a pitcher whenever it's just very rare not to let them finish a better

>Wait, so they pulled her while ...
She asked the skipper to take her out of the game.

>already pitching to a batter? You can do that?
Yes it is allowed.
A few mlb games this year had pitchers (relievers) changed in the middle of an at-bat.

>Can you combine for a strikeout?
Yes.

Imagine single strike specialists. September callups are all single strike specialists, the team burns through like 20 pitchers a game

>DUDE 43 ONE BETTER THAN JACKIE LMAO

Biggest fucking insult that I ever seen

There's been a couple of women in the minors over the years, but AFAIK they were all in independent leagues, which basically made them publicity stunts. One team this year has two, and neither have been any good.

baseball-reference.com/register/player.cgi?id=whitmo000kel

baseball-reference.com/register/player.cgi?id=piagno000sta

What about a big roided up female DH?

I bet this google could throw a mean memeball.

Atleast the kelsie gal got herself an rbi lol

>Height: 5' 6"
WHEN
WILL
THEY
LEARN

m.youtube.com/watch?v=KD06vfpiXPQ

There was just an international women's baseball tournament. The girls were anywhere from around 15 to 30+ years old and they were all garbage. Catchers struggled to throw to second (it was literally a free stolen base of you got on first), a routine grounder to the short stop was a difficult play for them to make.

Anyone who thinks there's a chance of women playing in the majors anytime soon is legitimately retarded and most likely doesn't watch sports outside of the super bowl.

Kek, they've given up a combined 16 earned runs in 14 innings

>woman
>high 80s
the fastest pitch recorded by a chick is 69 mph, this is a joke and shows the complete delusion of people who try to deny sexual dimorphism, which is just hilarious to think about, its like trying to deny the theory of relativity

This is so awful even Fox has become cucked.

>girl gamers
>female Ghostbusters
>female sports announcers

Now female baseball players. This is sad America.

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>irrelevant sport with nigger antics/storyline, this series sure will be a belter

I mean the many many commercials have annoyed the shit out of me already

kek

>Yfw she will never give you a pregame blowjob for good luck

I honestly can't believe that there are people who actually believe the 69 mph thing. Do you know how slow that is, have you ever seen a woman softball player, or javelin thrower, or tennis player, they are clearly capable of the arm speed for much faster than that.
just a couple weeks ago we were watching women's world cup of baseball in /mlb/ and they threw up to 80, and these girls were fucking scrubs, no one plays women's baseball. An actual athletic girl would definitely be able to throw into the mid 80s, a freak athletic girl might be able to hit 90

his weird service made them mad

>Baker
>Not in the kitchen

nope, the very best female will never be as good as the top 1% of males, who are the only ones with a chance to make an MLB team

Hands are to small
To short
Not enough power

The likelihood of a woman who is tall enough, has enough muscle mass, has the correct kind of bone structure, and has twitch muscles onxthe level of a professional male athlete is so slim to none that it will likely never happen.

They wouldn't even need to be all-Americans. There's plenty of players ranked outside the top 300 that can shoot better, dribble better, and are taller than WNBA players. There's 5 (five) WNBA players that have dunked. There are 300+ high schoolers who aren't being heavily recruited that can dunk.

Okay whatever you nu male betacuck. After all its the evil patriarchy keeping all the stronk indepedint womyn down

Golf is one of the few sports I could feasibly see a woman doing very well, but there's no way it would be sustainable. It's one of the hardest sports to maintain success in, and it would take some amazing strokes (heh) of luck for her to beat men that can drive the ball easily 75+ yards more than her. It's possible the weather is just complete shit when all the male's are playing and a woman just hits it perfectly all four days, but it's very unlikely.

India and China have produced shit and they have huge populations.

the message is clear. it's "everybody can play baseball at high level". you may be fat, small, black, even a woman.

will it halt the fall in participation from kids at playing baseball though? the sport is dying everywhere in the USA

>mfw the commercial that plays every commercial break on Global literally says "it's 2016, people"

It's all prince fielder's fault

but in golf, the new generation raised watching spieth and woods are ripped as fuck. once the remaining oldfags die/retire, you aren't gonna see fatfucks anymore, which could turn physical power into a larger % of the game.

wewwww you do know that softball throws are literally full body, while hardball is all elbow and shoulder. Softball mounds are like half the distance of an MLB mound you fuckstain.

women can't throw 90-110 mph fast balls dozens and dozens of times per night. I doubt they could even do it as a relief or closer pitcher.

women can't run as fast as men or swing a bat as hard. so they would need to be in the american league for designated hitter.

a pitcher with no fast ball is going to get crushed.

If I remember correctly the Florida All-State high school team annihilated a WNBA team

Sorry that's me

Professional sports already select for the top .1% of the male population.

It's literally impossible.

>>memeball because it's not a straight pitch but is actually super effective
This thread is a wonder for those who think you need to be the Hulk to throw and catch a ball or swing a little bat. Maybe I'd understand if this was another game like football or soccer.

it's a scientific fact that women can't throw as well as men.

You know that was 80kmh, not 80mph you dense motherfucker.

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how can people not watch this show in 2016, fucking biggots

I mean obviously. Who would watch this shit? Even feminist idiots are too busy jerking off on tumblr and shit.

If it's about a pitcher, "strikes out" is a weird choice of metaphor

Wouldn't a pitcher striking people out be good?

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Because I could hit off her and I suck.

unplanned abortion

>terrible lead in
>stupid premise for a show
>it's football season nobody cares about boreball
>football game should've been good (it wasn't but a lot of people were watching it when Pitch started)
It had everything going against it. The promos gave people no reason to watch the show at all. It's just Google-pandering shit hoping to low effort scoop awards from awards shows.

I downloaded it and watched it just to make fun of it with Cred Forums and Cred Forums. For what reason would literally any normie watch this show? It's not inspirational at all because she's doing something that's physically impossible. If a little girl watches this show with her mom and says "mommy I'm going to pitch in the high 80s in the majors when I grow up" the parent would have no choice but to tell their kid that it's impossible.

It might have worked as a Major League style comedy set in single A ball. You could put serious elements into it. Whatever retard pushed this shit to get greenlit clearly got it through by shouting "WOMYN NIGGER GIRL POWER INSPIRATIONAL OVERCOMING THE ODDS STORY FOR THE AGES" and somebody caved from fear of SJW backlash.

My gf literally thinks that girls are just as good at sports as guys. I even showed her that thing about the US women's soccer team losing to high school boys, and she said "that's only one example"

What do?

>facing competition from an NFL game

It's pretty obvious the white males at Fox were against this show but gave in to look sympathetic. They knew putting it against TNF would get it shut down in 6 months """"justifiably""""

Accept that you're dating a walking a vagina or dump her. She is literally retarded.

Have sex

>Age: 17

Do you think they showered with the other players?

There are more examples than just that.

Looks like a porn parody of itself

DH is there to hit Dingers

Women, even roided up, don't have the strength to hit Dingers. Even in launch pads like Coors.

>gf played basketball in HS
>brags about how they won state 3 years in a row and she was a starter
>I haven't played basketball since middle school
>we go play basketball
>after a few shots realize she can't shoot 3 pointers
>she dribbles better than me but it's fucking irrelevant because she can't get past me anyway
>let her win because feel bad for her

>letting a girl win over you to have sex
pretty beta to me

youtube.com/watch?v=rHs8VCn_3b8

If you take a trillion dogs they still wouldn't reach a average human's IQ, sample size does not matter when your natural potential doesn't reach that point.