How is he supposed to compete with Guardiola and Klopp?

How is he supposed to compete with Guardiola and Klopp?

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you forgot Wenger, Koemann and Mouyes

Spend a gorillion on players at christmas despite already having good ones

>Chelsea
>good players

Who? Diego Costa is about it

By learning how to play in a non one team league

>Klopp

+ Already had a season spent on making sure his players are adjusted to his system

+ Weeded out the players who cannot fit into his system and brought in players who can

+No European distractions


>Guardiola

+ Had his arrival planned for years and had his former staff be employed by Man City to make sure everything runs smoothly for him

+ Champions League which allows him to attract the best players

+ Gets the best forwards in the league, Iheanacho already proven to be a good striker and Aguero being the best striker

- Kompany is injured

- European distractions


>Conte

- Inherited a board that will not invest more money in obtaining CB's that could solidify defence

- Inherited a clusterfuck of a team that cannot be arsed in big games and a star player who's been shit for more than a year

- Inherited the most unforgiving owner who seemingly dislikes long-term success and will most likely sack him by December

Why doesn't he just play Matic as CB?

>hazard
>oscar
>matic
>willian
>kante
All world class players.

>Mourinho

+ Shit tonnes of money to spend

+ Board that likes long-term success

+ Inherits a team that has not been successful for too long, so they will accept not winning the league first year

- Washed up number 10 who has had far too much playing time

- European distractions


>Wenger

+ 20 seasons to implement his ideas and experiment with new ones

+ Generally good signings that increase depth and solidity

+ Extremely forgiving board that prefer the long-game as opposed to quick sackings

+ Champions League to increase attraction for signings

- No real striker

- European distractions


>Pochettino

+ 2 seasons to implement his ideas

+ Champions League to increase attraction for signings

- European distractions

- Almost won the league last season

" world class "

World class to me is a player in the top 5 in the world in his position, none of these are currently. You could argue 14/15 Hazard was world class and pssibly 15/16 Kante but he doesn't even look the same player this year. The rest are jokea right ?

I'm sure he would if he was good enough, he definitely hsa the body of a CB but I can't trust Matshit or anyone but Zouma and Terry to be a CB.

>hazard
>world class

He was in the 14/15 season but he has done nothing to show this in the Euros nor this season so far. Then again it is taking time for Conte to adjust to the PL and Wilmots is a shit coach but my point still stands. He has done nothing to stand out this season against the big clubs and doubt he will if he keeps walking around doing jack shit.

Fucker had a chance to stop Bellerin from making a cross for one of the goals but he just slowly walked towards him and by the time the cross was made Hazshit was too fucking late.

>Matic

Again, world-class before but not now.

>Oscar

Wasted potential, was never world-class.

>Willian

Scores a bunch of meme-freekicks and has a more than average workrate and you call him world class?

>Kante

Last season yes, this season no.

> Had his arrival planned for years and had his former staff be employed by Man City to make sure everything runs smoothly for him

Stupid comment of the day

>Hazard
a couple of seasons ago yes, not anymore
>Oscar
Showed promise early in his career but has done nothing since
>Matic
Hasn't been the same since that injury a year and a half back
>Willian
Scored a few nice free kicks early last season that seemed to fool people into thinking he's anything but average
>Kante
He's good but not world class

Chelsea can't compete financially with City, Utd, PSG etc, can't compete competitively with Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, and don't have the prestige to make up for it.

What world class players are going to want to sign for Chelsea now?

I was busy all summer and wasn't following transfers closely, why did Chelsea sign Luiz who is known to be a shit defender when Mustafi was available?

>spic denying the truth

>What world class players are going to want to sign for Chelsea now?

Any Juventus/Italian player I guess, but even then I feel like with Cuadrado at Juve the other players may feel like Chelsea and the PL in general might be too much for them.

>why did Chelsea sign Luiz who is known to be a shit defender when Mustafi was available?

Well the offer from Arsenal would obviously be more tempting considering how there aren't any Germans in Chelsea and Arsenal has Ozil and Mertesacker.

Chelsea have generally been unlucky with transfers for CB's this transfer window; Koulibaly would be paid more by Napoli thanks to Higuain money and Bonucci would be paid more by Juve thanks to Pogba money.

And they were about to sign Rudiger then he tore his ACL

Just like their most promising CB tore his ACL a few months earlier.

Fate doesn't want Chelsea to have a competent defence

>Fate
It's God

That was literally the case. They had planned for this since 2013.

>Fate doesn't want Chelsea to have a competent defence

Fuck this shit man. I miss the 1-0 wins and >our defence being the best in the world. It would've been if >we kept Felipe Luis and moved Azpi to the right, Christensen and Zouma would be fucking perfect as a CB duo but of course one may not even come back to Chelski and the other may be eternally fucked.

>former club captain of one of the greatest clubs ever (leadership)
>champions league winner as player (experience at the highest level)
>relentless winning mentality (motivation)
>meticulous, perfectionist approach to coaching (management)
>proven winner as a coach (history)

only negatives are he can be too stubborn and is too ingrained with italian "we must not concede even if it means we don't score" mentality.

the main problem is many people still think chelsea is the same team from 5 or so years ago. the quality isn't the same anymore and they have a shit mentality even conte might not be able to fix.

If fucking Kolarov can do it surely he will be able too.

>- Inherited a board that will not invest more money in obtaining CB's that could solidify defence
Maybe if his tactics weren't so shit he'd be able to mask the deficiencies of Cahill and Ivanovic even Arsenal are set up better than Chelsea which points to the quality of managers

>Chelsea sold Robben
>Chelsea sold De Bruyne
>Chelsea sold Lukaku
>Chelsea sold Filipe Luis
>Chelsea sold Bertrand
>Chelsea sold Cech

Some of these are obviously way worse than others but LOL

>LOL
You must be at least 18 years old to post on Cred Forums

Literally all Mourinho

So what happened to Chelsea? They suddenly went from champions to below average when their squad remained largely the same. How is it possible they're so underperforming?

Ivanovic got old
Terry got older
Matic got an injury and regressed
Courtois got an injury and regressed
Hazard burned out and regressed big time
Oscar and Willian were never that good
Fabregas was always inconsistent

Even when they won it they were dogshit in the second half of the season, just held on through a very good start.

It's the midfield that's not pulling its weight even if you removed the individual errors from the defenders Chelsea still concede a lot of unnecessary goals

He is the new eternal 4., while wenger goes up one place

With Ivanovic and Cahill of course

only world class chelsea player is fabergas

Look at the 2nd goal Arsenal scored Matic fails to track Walcott who pulls in Azpilicueta and then Hazard doesn't bother to track Bellerin it's no wonder they concede so many

The hilarious thing about Chelsea is they actually have a good academy and their youth teams are dominant but they will NEVER EVER give them a chance and will just keep playing the same underperforming seniors.

defence vs Arsenal was shambolic
Cahill-Luiz just doesn't work out as a CB pair

Sometimes it does

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate and laugh at the garbage pail that is Serie A?

The funny part is that it wasn't even Luiz's fault.

Cahill has been trash. Ivanovic needs to be done too. Allowing Azpi to play on the right should be Chelsea's priority.

Should be

Azpilicueta-Luiz-Terry-Alonso until Zouma is back, and if the ACL didn't completely fuck his shit up swap him for Luiz. Next year give Christensen his chance.

Their midfield is equally shit though. Kante has been good (last game aside) and Fabregas made a couple of good sub appearances this season but that's about it, other than that he's been useless and Oscar/Matic completely shit.

In attack Costa is great but despite getting off to a good start Hazard has been invisible in the last 3 PL games. Willian has the ability to do more than just turn around and pass it to Ivanovic every time he gets forward but doesn't seem to want to.

>- Inherited a board that will not invest more money in obtaining CB's that could solidify defence
He bought David Luiz for 34 fucking millions.

>Try to sign Stones last year
>Everton play hardball only to sell him for like £3 mil more the next summer
>Incredibly talented CB prospect gets a really bad knee injury and is out for several months, may never be the same again
>Try to sign Bonucci
>Juventus won't sell him because they're going to get that Pogba money
>Try to sign Rudiger
>He tears his ACL
>Try to sign Manolas
>Roma won't sell him now that Rudiger is injured
>Try to sign Koulibaly
>Napoli won't sell him because they're going to get that Higuain money
>Try to sign Romagnoli
>Milan won't sell him because they're going to get that Chinese investor money
>Have to settle for Luiz

Holy shit Chelsea could not catch a break with CB's

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>Almost won the league last season
>Almost
Even if they finished 2nd, them mathematically losing the title to Leicester with 2 matches to go and eventually finishing 11 points behind isn't "almost" winning the league. In fact, it's nowhere close.

By that token you might as well say that Arsenal almost won the league last season, too.

Top kek

So the board wanted to get rid of Terry and the only reason they didn't is because Conte pleaded against it?
I imagine they're also responsible for these shit signings like David Luiz and that black Belgian
I feel bad for Conte

Oscar, willian and Matic aren't world class. Willian is overrated because some meme free kicks in an awful the last year. Oscar have never been quality and Matic has lost his touch

In think it's clear Emenalo is a problem. Didn't buy player mouyes wanted. Didn't buy players Conte wanted. Chelsea have the financial ability.

>you forgot Wenger, Koemann and Mouyes
No, no he didn't

People ignore a lot of the bad of that 2014-15 season, they only see "Chelsea won the league". The sign were there though, we should have seen the problems from January onwards.

>>Fuck this shit man. I miss the 1-0 wins and >our defence being the best in the world

So you like parking the bus and hoofball?

Fucking hell, imagine trying to live with that type of luck in your day to day life.

Tbf, Tottenham was closer to Leicester than Arsenal. But you make a valid point nonetheless

Forgetting someone?

He should just replace Matic with Willian since Matic is clearly never coming back to form and there's fuck all else to play in his position

>mfw Man Utd indirectly caused Chelsea to miss out on two of their centre back targets

>tottenham was closer to Leicester than Arsenal

But that is factually incorrect. Nothing in that statement is even close to the truth and the final table from last season proves you wrong. How fucking stupid are you?

>the final table from last season proves you wrong
What a ridiculous notion, Tottenham were still mathematically capable of winning the title further into the season than Arsenal so how could Arsenal have been closer