Huh...really made my neurons fire

Huh...really made my neurons fire

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charlesdarwinresearch.org
psych.colorado.edu/~carey/pdfFiles/IQ_Plomin02.pdf
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it's just a song, a shitty one at that
get over it

10 feet taller

Did this faggot actually think this made sense?

Someone's too stupid to read

if he didn't take the paycheck, it would just stay with the billionaire. how would that protest income inequality?

Did the cartoonist feel clever when writing that?

That makes no fucking sense

How does not standing for the national anthem prevent police brutality?

What is BLM's endgame? Reparations?

>using logic against some Trumptard's shitty strawman cartoon

seems like a false equivalency to me desu

Only the top %1 of football players even go pro. Wouldn't it make sense for the top 1% of a profession to make millions of dollars, especially when that profession generates billions every year?

Bout tree fiddy

Kapernicks "stance" is stupid because the statistics don't support what he is possessively protesting. It is a complete fallacy that white cops are killing black people at any sort of alarm able rate.

Income inequality is totally different because it actually exists and is also actually a good thing and part of the appeal of modern capitalism.

People like to appear progressive and the feeling it gives them will cause them to ignore the data in front of them.

It doesn't. It shows that men with influence such as Kapernick support organizations that do work to end police brutality.

but the people who employ him and give him his paychecks are presumably MUCH richer than him, so accepting the paychecks actually indeed increases income equality....

stupid comic and I'm not even in any way a supporter of that entire bullshit black movement going on in the US

End game would imply they have any sort of plan or critical thinking involved in their movement.

Not defending the comic, but then how come he isn't donating his benchrider salary to people who need it?

I cant wait for out society to go full collapse of Rome 2.0

I think we'll have UFC type fights to the death within 10 years

it's not centralized in any way so different people/cells could be thinking different things
but i think the main thing is police accountability and stricter guidelines on lethal force

> It shows that men with influence such as Kapernick support organizations that do work to end police brutality.


This is what you think it shows. What to us logical people see is a huge segment of the nation believing in something that is a figment of their imagination.

Intelligence is genetic

...

You apparently

Source?

Gonna need a nuclear war for that to happen

massive disparities exist before people enter the educational system or labor market tho. that has nothing to do with the allure of capitalism.

Youre in for a big surprise kid

Reality

Head in ass retarded.

news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/Race-differences-in-average-IQ-are-largely-genetic.aspx

Obviously a faux news source, drumpfkin shitlord

*sips chai latte with two hands*

>we want less state intervention into daily lives
>better vote for the biggest government possible
Blacks and progressives, everyone

You all realize he's been donating his paychecks to fucked up inner city communities, right?

Yes you are

i don't think they want less state intervention, they just want the state intervention to not shoot them unless it's absolutely necessary

idk about Kap but a lot of NFL players are very involved in charity work, as well as helping out family members. One of the reasons many players struggle financially later on is because they give so much of their money away

>expecting conservatives to care about facts

I imagine equality

Do you not understand the concept of protests? He's making a statement that he does not think the US is living up to its principles on racial equality.

It's not a conservative or liberal thing, it's a 99% of the population dismisses anything factual that goes against their already formed opinion

This is true

fuck all niggers

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

go patriots

You're redpilled I see.

>they call it a red pill
>they're not commies

Such as he's also the one who tweeted #7tormscoming

even if race impacts IQ the fact that blacks are 80% born to single mothers who never read or value education cant help their results too much either
Black moms sure do care about their kids making the NBA or NFL though

...

America the Beautiful > Star-Spangled Banner tbqh

Maybe the black community should take responsibility for something instead of blaming white people for all their problems

No, it's mostly a conservative thing. Coincidentally, 99% of the scientific community agree about climate change, not so much on race-IQ correlations.

I know tons of chinks come to the US poor as shit but their kids become doctors and shit since their culture values families and education.

Tiger moms beating the fuck out of kids until they learn the piano and calculus

The comic is 100% retarded but the user was right.
>alt-right manlet biting Bone's style
Everything is wrong with this

How can you be so wrong

Well to be fair, you can't even attempt to do a proper race/iq study nowadays without getting blasted by the media and other groups

No, 99% of the scientific community agrees race-IQ correlations are bunk, only in Cred Forumsland is there a dispute.

Do liberals know of confirmation bias?

Nutrition, etc play a huge role in IQ. Blacks in inner cities have poor nutrition, poor early life education (most don't go to preschool), and issues with water quality (eg, lead which lowers IQ).
So there's little if any evidence that race itself impacts IQ as opposed to black people living in shitty conditions as a result of generations of racism

>be white supremacist
>be fucking retarded
Never fails
""chinks"" aren't raised in inner cities with high concentrated poverty and ravaged by the war on drugs and gang violence.

You're right, racism never existed. Black people have always had the same opportunities white people have, it's just their inherent laziness that's to blame for not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. Thanks for red pilling me on chimps and dindus user!

Before you get shitposted to death by an EPIC Cred Forums raid, I want you to know that even though writing this post was completely pointless, since they don't give a shit about nuance and facts, you did the right thing.

Sure you can. You just may not like the conclusions.

Do conservatives know of the scientific method?

Those

>Brain Size Differences. Studies using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) find a correlation of brain size with IQ of about 0.40. Larger brains contain more neurons and synapses and process information faster. Race differences in brain size are present at birth. By adulthood, East Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites who average 5 cubic inches more than Blacks.

>Trans-Racial Adoption Studies. Race differences in IQ remain following adoption by White middle class parents. East Asians grow to average higher IQs than Whites while Blacks score lower. The Minnesota Trans-Racial Adoption Study followed children to age 17 and found race differences were even greater than at age 7: White children, 106; Mixed-Race children, 99; and Black children, 89.

>Do Culture-Only Theories Explain the Data? Culture-only theories do not explain the highly consistent pattern of race differences in IQ, especially the East Asian data. No interventions such as ending segregation, introducing school busing, or "Head Start" programs have reduced the gaps as culture-only theory would predict.

>everyone who disagrees with me is rayciss and black people have done nothing wrong!

I forgot which reported said it so I'm paraphrasing here, "was kapernick kneeling to protest police brutality when he was a starter? BLM was ongoing in 2013, why didn't we see this behavior then? It seems now that he's second string he begins doing this...I'm not saying it's because of him being demoted but the timing is all wrong"

please cite your sources

I'm sure the social pressure of becoming a pariah has nothing to do with it. Also it's not like the thought of kneeling was necessarily there a prior.

>""chinks"" aren't raised in inner cities with high concentrated poverty and ravaged by the war on drugs and gang violence.

So what about that whole railroad we made them build? We'rent they addicted to opium and forced into virtual slavery and horrible work conditions?
Give me an explanation for why Asians have outpaced Black progress over the last 50 years.
Even if it were social, it would be low out-of-wedlock birth rates and you still lose libfag

He's doing it now because his whore gf is involved in the "movement" and told him too. Dude is beta as fuck.

I wonder what his adoptive parents think now that their "son" is part of the #FuckWhitey movement. That's gotta be awkward.

So blue whales must be the most intelligent life on the planet, since they have the biggest brains and therefore the most neurons and synapses

>asks for sources
>doesn't post any

cant make this shit up

It's already in this thread

Maybe you should pay more attention before rushing in to spout off "WE WUZ KANGS" tier retardation

>whales correlate to 1:1 to studies on humans
>liberal logic
And you're the movement of science?

>So blue whales must be the most intelligent life on the planet

well, yeah, they literally are...

onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/human-intelligence-versus-whales-and-dolphins/

>I wonder what his adoptive parents think now that their "son" is part of the #FuckWhitey movement. That's gotta be awkward.

Lol that is the crazy part in all this, so many white people actually support this shit and don't even realize the implications.

you literally cannot make these responses up

What is this Fuck Whitey movement and where can I sign up?

Your response already shows your membership

They want what anyone else should want, better police training on perceiving and subduing criminals.

BLM serves to cause riots and hurt race relations, it does not serve to end the non existent crisis of police brutality.

>"what do we want?"
>"dead cops"

They already stated what they wanted, been pretty clear.

Also these welfare sucking non tax paying members of these BLM contribute absolutely zero to the taxes that would be needed to better train the police

ANTHEMIC SONG POWER RANKINGS

1. God Bless America
2. Star Spangled Banner
3. America the Beautiful
9001. Courtesy of the Red White and Blue

KILL YOURSELF
This Land is Your Land

Somehow dox your entire family tree, use ancestry.com to find the rest or anyone we missed, get detailed instructions to murder everyone on the list and then find any children and dump them into acid barrels like Los Zetas tier if you believe this should be the national anthem

Imagine by John Lennon

I wouldn't doubt the cartoonist knew he was presenting a Strawman. He probably also knew his audience is too dumb to know what that is.

Liberals never advanced past an elementary school education, since facts offend them and they prefer to stay in their safe space.

Conservatism, Nationalism and White Supremacy are the funniest mental illnesses

Attention and money

Those ancestry sites are a complete scam.

Not nearly as funny and delusional as liberalism, socialism, and ethnodiversity. Since while the things you've described work, the things I've stated never work.

>heh, I'm smart because I read horsey cartoons which is obviously unbiased and definitely not just the mirror image of conservative strawmen

I hate Cred Forumsizeis but liberals with unwarranted smugness are the fucking worst. I don't want trump to win because then Cred Forumstards will be unbearable, but at least I would get delicious smuggie coastal hipster tears out of it.

But no, Hillary will obviously win and I'll have to deal with more millenial retards who paid $80,000 to memorize the correct opinions for their art degree act as though they're smarter or better than actual industrial/labor men. At least I'll get to see Cred Forums cry, I guess

>racism is a figment of our imagination
kek, people unironically believe this. Is this actually what education in Alabama or whatever shithole you grew up in is like?

You're right. We never learned that evolution is a lie because GOD created humans, or that global warming isn't real because GOD controls the temperature, or that tidal theory is fake because GOD controls the tides and we can't explain how the tide goes in or the tide goes out without GOD
But of course educated individuals like yourself have all of the facts! Trump/Pence 2016: Because science is a librul hoax

>Conservatism, Nationalism
>predominate movements throughout history
>majority of people ever had mental illness

I don't think you know what that term means

Well for that matter so do the billionaires that practice tax evasion, but let's ignore them.

The Alt-Right (they hate that term btw) was supposed to be a meme ideology, but dumb college-aged millennials were never taught the concept of irony.

>white people who live near large concentrations of minorities and deal with them on a regular basis (I.e. The south) tend to be more racist while rich coddle upper middle class white kids who live in gated communities with zero minorities say diversity is the best.

Really makes me ponder

The funniest part is that This Land Is Your Land is originally credited to Woody Guthrie who was a self described socialist. Guthrie was a part of a socialist movement of the early 20th century in America, largely started by poor white working class farmers and factory workers. The funny part is that same white working class demographic now provide the largest amount of support for the Republican party.. So now you have retarded angry white guys all over the internet talking about how they're inherently better than entire races of people while never actually contributing a single tangible thing to society

>if you think BLM is retarded you're a trump supporter

BLM is a fucking cancer and I want to see both Trump and Hillary in prison for their crimes

see It was never ironic or satire, that's just a defense white supremacists use and retards retardedly believe

I feel the same way. I see all the safe spaces and bullshit, and see Hillary's sexist platform, and the misandry from her supporters, and I really want the SJWs to lose this one so (a) I can feast on their safe-space tears and (b) so they can learn bullshit identity politics is a losing platform
But... I look at Cred Forums and the white supremacists there, who think the only way to combat PC culture is to go back to old-fashioned racism, and I really want to see them cry too.
I'm voting Gary Johnson, whoever wins I'll be sad that their supporters feel vindicated in their retardation and bigotry, but at the same time I'll enjoy the tears of the losing sides' tears

>You're right. We never learned that evolution is a lie because GOD created humans, or that global warming isn't real because GOD controls the temperature, or that tidal theory is fake because GOD controls the tides and we can't explain how the tide goes in or the tide goes out without GOD
None of this has anything to do with progressives / conservatives you retard, that is about religious silliness.

>But of course educated individuals like yourself have all of the facts
Such that gun control does not and has never worked in the US.
Such that Obamacare, and national health care in general for the US, cannot work, and what we've seen is only doubled prices of health services.
Such that we've seen the wage gap is largely a myth, statistics that have risen due to personal choices in career and time off such as for pregnancy.
Such that we've seen how having non existent border controls can destroy the economies and prosperities of successful nations (see; Sweden).
Such that we know losing our industrial and other blue collar work leads to massive economic troubles and job loss.
Such that we've seen how ineffective social security is with a population that continues to get older and older.
Such that we've seen how welfare is disproportionately used by people with no intention of seeking better work.
Such that we've seen that increasing the minimum wage would lead to significant economic collapse in many states, and country wide inflation.

I'm a conservative, I'm a biologist. Not all conservatives are religious nut jobs.

>no Battle Hymn of the Republic

>largely genetic
How much does education influence it?
Jews used to get scores lower than Anglo-Saxons on mental tests before WWII. Now, they are the most intelligent ethnic group. The guy that made the SAT really disliked them kek Also, Kenya, which is developing quickly, has seen a rise in their average IQ. I feel like whenever someone conducts a study on intelligence and heritability they have an agenda set out. He or she is either out to prove it is entirely by race or that race has barely anything to do with it.

Tax AVOIDANCE.
Many of them do so in a very legal way. Learn US tax code.

>white people who live near ghettos are almost always poor white trash

Really causes me to consider

The article says the source goes to charlesdarwinresearch.org

However, clicking the site goes to a dead link. You have 0 sources

I live in a fairly white area.
I deliver as a part time job while going to school.

Blacks and Mexicans tip on average between $0 to $1, whereas whites on average tip about $3-$4 a delivery.

Any server position starts to develop really racial thoughts.

Stupid

Well it was almost always had a tinge of humor when it was on Cred Forums. At some point on /news/ and later Cred Forums, it lost all humor.

>look mom im projecting on the internet!
>if you disagree with me you must be all of these things i dislike!

Compelling argument. Also, no one said racism "doesn't exist". That's another straw man. The funniest part is I was going to vote for Bernie, the man who would have been the best candidate for the black community. If only they didn't end up shooting themselves in the foot yet again. But I guess white people made them vote for Hillary too.

Jesus christ

The source is the name of the paper you massive retard. Literally type "Thirty Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability" into google and its the first result.

Protesting is a joke and is all attention seeking. That's why all protesters are women and black people. The only whites are the cucks who have been brainwashed. They are no longer part of us. They can't be saved. All this generation cares about is how many views their tweet will get or how many likes their Instagram post of them protesting gets. Attention whore participation medal betas.

>actually implying all cops aren't bastards

>nothing to do with conservatives
yeah you're right religious silliness has nothing to do with conservatives. It's not like the Republican ticket denies science, or most conservative commentators are as retarded as pic-related or anything
Sorry but if you're going to insult liberals for not being educated, we're not going to ignore the fact that the MAJORITY of conservatives literally think science is a fucking hoax. Kasich was the ONLY republican candidate who admitted science is real, and he won one fucking state

>Obamacare
How fucking young are you? Do you seriously not remember how shitty it was living in a society where people with pre-existing conditions couldn't get health care? You probably had mommy and daddy providing your insurance before ACA came out, lucky you. Obamacare isn't perfect, mostly because libs had to compromise with retarded conservatives too much

>wage gap
Okay you've got that one, it pisses me off that Obama/Hillary/Bernie all perpetuate that myth. Feminism is a cancer that is gaining far too much influence over the left

>Such that we know losing our industrial and other blue collar work leads to massive economic troubles and job loss.
And the solution is.... What? To make technology illegal? You aren't actually dumb enough to think that Trump will bring back the factory jobs do you?

>Such that we've seen how welfare is disproportionately used by people with no intention of seeking better work.
Well no, no you haven't. You've heard a bunch of bullshit fed to you by other retarded conservatives

>natural selection stops at the neck

love this meme

>straw man
user above claimed that BLM is protesting against a figment of their imagination, so they were claiming that our justice system definitely isn't racist at all and black people are totally treated the same as white people. Not a straw man at all, maybe you should learn how to read?

>yeah you're right religious silliness has nothing to do with conservatives
It doesn't. While more religious people tend to be conservative, that does not mean they are directly related.
>It's not like the republican ticket denies science
The only thing Trump 'denies' is global warming, and even that's a shaky denial. I do agree that we cannot have such extreme economic sanctions that are being proposed by the dems, it would severely hurt our economy. Thing about Pence however is that he even believes in climate change, so much for your religion = science denial theory.
>the MAJORITY of conservatives literally think science is a fucking hoax
Going to need a citation on the majority of conservatives. That's quite the claim. And not majority of Republicans, conservatives, there's a big difference between those two.
>kasich
Was a retard when it came to trade and military.

> Do you seriously not remember how shitty it was living in a society where people with pre-existing conditions couldn't get health care?
Wow, so how about.
Stick with me here.
A bill that prevents providers from denying pre existing conditions
BUT STICK WITH ME HERE
doesn't fucking force you to have health care if you don't want it. Because guess what increased the enormous price hikes?

>because libs had to compromise
BECAUSE THEY WANTED NATIONAL HEALTH CARE WHICH IS STRAIGHT UP RETARDED.

>And the solution is.... What? To make technology illegal?
No, to give greater tax benefits to those that provide more jobs in the US, and increase tariffs for those that do so overseas.
Meanwhile Hillary not only wants to do nothing about it, but she wants to destroy our coal industry because of its climatic effects. Guess what that will do? It'll destroy the economies of quite a few states that rely on that industry.

>You've heard a bunch of bullshit fed to you by other retarded conservatives
Says the retard that thinks wealth distribution leads to prosperity when socialism has never worked

>I feel like whenever someone conducts a study on intelligence and heritability they have an agenda set out. He or she is either out to prove it is entirely by race or that race has barely anything to do with it.
I agree. Just look at all the posts here

>shaky denial
>literally fifty (50) tweets where he calls global warming a hoax

then you should have no problem linking it here

He calls man made global warming that is going to affect us in a decade a hoax, which is actually a reasonable stance.
The evidence that climate change will affect us soon is incredibly slim. Yea, there's mountains of evidence that suggest the Earth's climate is changing, but the amount of it that's man made. how soon we'll see the more significant effects of it, and how significant those effects will be don't exactly have a lot of backing to them.

Man made climate change does not have the evidence of something like evolution. There's a lot of contradictory stuff out there, because even our current climate / weather prediction technology is just not very advanced. There's a lot of room for improvement in this field before we can make an such outrageous claims as the ice caps melting.

I assume you're the same person who responded to the post that said the black community should take responsibility for something with "you're right racism doesn't exist lol!"

Also, what BLM is protesting against is highly exaggerated. It's true that blacks are killed at a higher rate than whites by police authorities, when variables are controlled for the difference is not particularly massive by any means. It isn't anywhere close to the image that is being portrayed in the media, where BLM is getting most of their information from.

>killed at a higher rate
Because they commit a higher rate of crime.

I'm not going to continue discussion with someone who is doing everything in their power to protect themselves from facts that might violate their world view to the point that they can't even bring themselves to copy and paste something into google to continue an argument.

le tricky hook man

The majority of the populous is getting fucked regardless of what economic system we operate under. The least we can do is figure out how we can provide everyone with basic access to health care.

Well, so is refusing to stand for the national anthem because racism exists

What the fuck did I say that was bait?
Fucking liberals. When you can't debate something you just close your ears and shout.

>The majority of the populous is getting fucked regardless of what economic system we operate under
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No, fuck off.
Socialism has DESTROYED ENTIRE ECONOMIES. Capitalism, while not the perfect system, has not done so.

>The least we can do is figure out how we can provide everyone with basic access to health care.
We do. If you enter a hospital you'll never be denied health care.
FREE health care is a different story. The cost of health insurance in the US however is very low (or at least, was, before every person in the country was required to have it), because there are different levels you can buy into. The choice of wanting or not wanting health insurance was a personal liberty that you could exercise.

you have linked an article with 0 sources. Surely, you can post at least one modicum of evidence here.

People who think that industrial jobs and the like are ever coming back to America are straight up retarded. The American workers just straight up can't compete with the billions of Chinese and Indians who will work for pennies a day no matter how much you tax the goods. Even the ones that do come back are highly automated and need more education than the old factory worker has

>there are "people" itt right now that are unironic leftist cucks

i thought spee was the alpha board

>black people commit more murders than every other race combined despite making up 13% of the population
>mostly murdering other black people
>black people are shot by police at a slightly higher rate than their population share
>police violence against black people is the biggest issue ever!

Wow, really makes me think.

Here
psych.colorado.edu/~carey/pdfFiles/IQ_Plomin02.pdf
It goes into detail on the IQ's relation to genetics and inheritance. Estimates are between 50-60% inheritance, though admits it could be higher because of the especially high correlation among siblings adopted by different families.

Not ALL industrial jobs need to come back, but some do.
That's where tariffs and tax breaks come in.

If they don't come back though, all you're really looking at is a lot more money that goes into our government via the tariffs.

Well Chinese workers and Indian workers dont get those cushy American demands like: health insurance, a living wage, concerns that the heavy metals and chemicals they are touching won't kill them painfully in a few months, etc

>paying off lawmakers to get tax benefits is morally sound and ethically superior to legitimately struggling and needing a boost to support your family

retarded white folk, everybody

not to mention a few families on welfare wont even come close to the $1 billion of tax revenue lost from trump

patrician opinion here

www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

it's really pathetic you need to be spoonfed these things

a black guy broke into my apartment when I was there not too long ago

I wish a cop was there to shoot him

>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>No, fuck off.

Actually, hahahahaha yes, it is.

>If you enter a hospital you'll never be denied health care.

Good start, but still work to do.

>paying off lawmakers
That's not how tax avoidance works you fucking retard.
It has to do with expenses made by your companies, allocating certain income taxes as capital gains instead etc.
>1 billion of tax revenue lost from Trump
You are beyond retarded, Trump pays plenty of taxes through his businesses and capital gains, he just doesn't pay income tax due to the massive loss he took on in the 90s.

>Actually, hahahahaha yes, it is.
Name a successful socialist state.
Hard mode: Name a successful communist state.
Dante must die: Acceptance that Scandinavia employs some social policies, but is in fact, not a socialist state

>Good start, but still work to do
No, there is no work to do. I shouldn't have to pay for Tyrone's frequent STD visits.

Pence also wants creationism taught in public schools. And again, there's a reason that none of the top-3 finishers in the GOP primary would admit global warming is real. This isn't a fringe view at all, no I don't have a source but maybe try paying attention to politics once in a while? If it weren't for the flag I'd think you were from Europe, here in America it's pretty fucking obvious most conservatives don't believe in science

>A bill that prevents providers from denying pre existing conditions
>BUT STICK WITH ME HERE
>doesn't fucking force you to have health care if you don't want it. Because guess what increased the enormous price hikes?
How about.... stick with me here.... ARE YOU LITERALLY RETARDED????
Basic fucking economics you retard. You can't force insurance companies to take on people with pre-existing conditions unless you force people to buy health insurance. Otherwise people won't buy insurance until they have a condition. It's common fucking sense, like literally Econ 101 shit. You cannot have coverage for preexisting conditions without the individual mandate

>greater tax benefits
Yes I'm sure tax benefits will convince companies not to replace workers with technology indefinitely

>socialism has never worked
Did you pay for grade school? Do you pay to use the roads? Do you pay the fire department when your house burns? Do you pay the cops when you're robbed? Who do you think pays the military? We already live in a socialist society, and as technology replaces more and more jobs we're going to have to do something. Because SPOILER ALERT: The blue collar factory jobs are gone for good, and most other blue collar jobs will be gone soon too

Dude, i found the article in mere seconds. Don't play dumb.

Philippe Rushton wrote it, he seems to be an heavily criticized scientist for his racials views.. I have no definite opinion on the matter but the last article of this guy was "Race, evolution and HIV" lol

>cucks
wew lad, I know Cred Forums is a relatively newfag-friendly board but please lurk a little more before you come meming up the place

>taxes exist, therefore socialism works

lol ok

I guess every society ever in history was socialist

>the government provides things for the public therefore limited degrees of socialism work
yes. Or are you one of the retards creating a strawman that Libs want 100% socialism for everything?

Of course this guy gets ignored

you should've taken that left turn at albuquerque friend, reddit's that way

>You can't force insurance companies to take on people with pre-existing conditions unless you force people to buy health insurance. Otherwise people won't buy insurance until they have a condition.
This is up there with the most retarded thing I've ever heard, on the internet or not. First it ignores the entire purpose of what insurance is. Second, it claims that right to renewal clauses weren't in place before government healthcare, or that you need government healthcare to have right to renewal clauses.

Pretty sure it's the conservatives that need a safe space after complaining about all of this.

What's the difference between a "strawman" and "moving the goalposts?"

I don't mean this rhetorically. I'm genuinely interested.

LOLOLOLOL
XD
God you're so funny user where did you learn all these great memes? I actually use 9Gag but seeing the great meming that you do I'm going to tell all of my 9Gag friends to come to Cred Forums from now on for all of our meming needs!

>the government provides things for the public therefore limited degrees of socialism work

It's so nice of them to provide things for me that I don't want at a higher rate than I could get them for if I paid for them myself

Read the Cred Forums sticky on logical fallacies

>Pence also wants creationism taught in public schools
Doesn't really matter, he's not the president.
>there's a reason that none of the top-3 finishers in the GOP primary would admit global warming is real
Not because of their views. Yes, admittedly there are bottom barrel idiots that worship conservatism for its religious ties, but that does not have anything to do with conservative economic policies.
>no I don't have a source
So it means nothing

>Basic fucking economics you retard. You can't force insurance companies to take on people with pre-existing conditions unless you force people to buy health insurance
You are so unbelievably stupid, that makes absolutely no sense.
Simply prevent insurance companies from denying people coverage by law, but do not force the populace to have insurance.

>Otherwise people won't buy insurance until they have a condition
Again, this is illogical, since health insurance lasts one year minimum, and you can do it like dental insurance where you need to wait 6 months between dropping a plan and buying a new one. We have fucking car insurance as a choice idiot, there's no reason health cannot be similar.

>Yes I'm sure tax benefits will convince companies not to replace workers with technology indefinitely
In some cases it will, in some it won't. Give greater tax benefits for companies with a greater number of employees.

>Did you pay for grade school? Do you pay to use the roads? Do you pay the fire department when your house burns? Do you pay the cops when you're robbed? Who do you think pays the military? We already live in a socialist society
None of that is wealth redistribution you bumbling idiot. My fucking god learn what the definition of socialism is.

>SPOILER ALERT: The blue collar factory jobs are gone for good, and most other blue collar jobs will be gone soon too
As they disappear, new blue collar work appears. It's a never ending cycle.

I'm convinced you've never studied economics in your life.

Name one safe space for conservatives on college campuses.

Inner cities are shitty because they are filled with black people

strawman = pretending the other side is making an argument they aren't and shitting on it
moving the goalposts = asking them to answer something and then asking for them to prove something else once they do prove it

back for more punishment, huh? libcucks tend to be very masochistic, makes sense

when did he say he was protesting income inequality?

Strawman is a flawed representation of an opponents argument that is then refuted by the presenter to advance her own side.

Moving the goalposts is a speaker presenting a challenge. When the opponent comes up with an argument that meets that standard, the standard is then changes

No, you're ignoring basic econ. This isn't something that any serious economist, liberal or conservative, would dispute. If you force companies to take on people with pre-existing conditions than many people would simply put off buying insurance until they already have a conditions. The only reason people didn't do that before, is because they wouldn't be able to get insurance since insurance companies would refuse to sell to them.
I just... I really cannot wrap my head around how somebody can be this fucking stupid. This is really basic information that was discussed ad nauseam during the healthcare debates. Do you even know anything about Obamacare? Or healthcare in general? Or economics? I'm beginning to think you're just another shitposter in way over your head about a topic you have no fucking clue about

Fun fact: When you buy new dental insurance you need to wait 6 months before the insurance starts covering you in most cases.
This is also how health insurance worked before it was required by law. The removal of this, and the requirement for everyone to have it, is what caused premiums to double in price.

every space is a safe space if you're not a fucking pansy

Everyone who publishes politically inflaming things to do with race is pushed back against in the scientific community nowadays. The same reason sociologists are trying to claim race doesn't exist.

geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/03/28/genes-indicted-as-tool-for-new-racism/

>t. somebody who doesn't understand economics, science, healthcare, OR politics
I don't have time to keep arguing with somebody who is borderline retarded but please PLEASE start reading more user, it's really cringeworthy how little you know about simple things. Have a good night

Cred Forums ironically has a sticky on this

not an argument

defeated by a drumpf supporter, sad!

>This isn't something that any serious economist, liberal or conservative, would dispute.
Yes it is. Many dispute it.

>If you force companies to take on people with pre-existing conditions than many people would simply put off buying insurance until they already have a conditions.
Idiotic.
pre-existing conditions doesn't mean you get the flu / break a limb and need emergency treatment / catch a serious disease.
It means you have long term medical issues such as a permanent STI, cancer, bone development issues etc.
If you have it work like, say, dental insurance, then any insurance you get will not take effect for 6 months after it is purchased. In this way, you are preventing people from buying insurance for breaking a bone or something. They have to plan ahead.

So you just lost the argument and have no way to respond. Yea, liberals usually do that "no I'M THE BETTER PERSON" crap when they run out of things to say.
Nighty night dumbass, maybe eventually you'll understand economics.

Educated people actually tend to lean Democrat
people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/

>basing your political views on sjw's & pol
??? don't vote at all.

you white devils gonna pay

People that go to college tend to lean democrat because of the political bias found in universities.
You are taught, for example, outright lies, such as that race is a social construct.

Meanwhile, conservatives are the ones that tend to make more money.

educated white people also tend to live in rich white communities where they don't deal with black people

Probably. Mark my words, they will become a non profit with a ton of money from rich liberal donors and lobby for shit come 10 years.

Strawman is when you say capitalism invariably fucks a significant portion of the population, and the other person interprets that as saying the Soviet Union did things the right way.

Moving the goalposts is when you say capitalism invariably fucks a significant portion of the population, and the other person responds that at least it doesn't fuck over as many as the Soviet Union did.

No, strawman is when you say that capitalism is a failed system, because people with a poor work ethic and no drive end up living in extreme poverty.

Moving the goalposts is when someone points out how capitalism allows prosperity at all levels, you say that you can't afford health care because someone won't pay for it for you.

your post is literally a strawman

>Meanwhile, conservatives are the ones that tend to make more money.
Actually not true, most high income Americans say they are Independent.

Do you really expect anything else from libshits at this point?

independents lean republican

>People that go to college tend to lean democrat because of the political bias found in universities.

Love this one. Nobody in college is a liberal until after they're brainwashed by the manipulating jew professors their freshman year.

Independent means not republican or democrat.
Independents tend to be more conservative.

I didn't say no one. But you're in denial if you don't see this as something that happens.

I for one chose to take more courses in economics than sociology for my electives, so I learned how an economy actually functions. That shifted me pretty far to the right.

Most students prefer to study stuff like psychology and sociology though.

Not in the last two elections

Ah, so it's only the sociology and psychology professors teaching those "outright lies", while the economic professors are straight up? I think someone mentioned confirmation bias earlier ITT.

Economic professors use this fun thing called math and statistics to show evidence.

>Nationalism
>mental illness

lol, youre really going to know the extent of it when those 'mentally ill' loons stomp your ass to death

More like they want a simpler, more beneficial tax policy but don't give a fuck about fringe social issues like gay marriage and shit. It's hilarious and sad that we don't really have a party that represents this exceptional maybe libertarians

>dos dumb economic professors
>socialism can definitely work! I don't care that it never has
>I don't care that millions have died every attempt of it
>I don't care that it results in crashing economies
>I don't care that every serious russian politician has said that communism and socialism was an enormous mistake
>IT CAN WORK DAMN IT

factually incorrect

A libertarian capitalist party is severely needed.
Gary Johnson however, is not a libertarian.

that's exactly what Trump is if you cut through all of the smears from the left

>Economic professors use this fun thing called math and statistics to show evidence.

And what do these other professors use to show evidence?

Research papers about observational analysis.

Containing statistics? I may be asking the wrong person considering you admitted to not taking these courses.

You are now aware that we haven't had a person serving in Congress who wasn't a Democrat, Republican or Independent since 1977.

And people are complaining about the lack of a third option for President?

Independents have actually favored the Democratic candidate for the president from Clinton to Obama in 08. More independents favored Romney over Obama in 2012 though. They also don't seem to vote a lot in midterms

Research papers that aren't based on scientific research are trash. It's just people citing people in a circle to make it seem like they have evidence when all they have is a clique.

t. someone who worked for a journal

I took one or two.
The statistics usually use small sample sizes of 20-100, rather than significantly more accurate sample sizes of 1000 to 2000.

That's the majority of the studies in early uni classes though.
Psychologists and sociologists also avoid racial studies like the fucking plague, because they don't want to find out something that will see them condemned.

>Sure you can. You just may not like the conclusions.

No, there is no conclusions drawn that don't leapfrog entire steps in the scientific method.

You start with a premise, they make an unfounded statement, you start to dissect, you're suddenly without a job.

That's how it works, sorry.

yes

Yes, but they're usually bad statistics. Sociology and Psychology are currently going through a replication crisis because researchers just use statistics to try to justify the conclusions they already agreed with.

early uni classes in sociology don't use current studies, they talk about Disney movies and show old Simpsons clips to prove their points

He is though

that dude misspelled chris

Interesting. So you're saying certain fields of study use entirely smaller sample sizes, for whatever reason, even if it completely disregards the concept of normal distribution, which not only get published but are included in the curriculum of the most basic courses of these fields.

I'm sorry, what job are you losing here?