Just bought the Voyager box sets. Just breezed over the synopsis. This is going to be the best $220 I've ever spent

I'm so damn worried about the new show

its made by new people, that gives me hope. It won't feel like the 90's treks but thats ok, as long as its written well.

If you have watched anything Bryan Fuller has made, you don't need to be worried.

Hannibal is literally the best television show I've ever seen.

The first hour is guaranteed to be garbage, since it's written by the same moron who did Into Darkness.

I will never ever understand how they had such a good premise and fucked it up that badly

>Make the Maquis exactly like the Starfleet Crew after 3 episodes
>Never show any feelings of isolation or decaying morals throughout the series , even holding up muh directive when it makes no sense too
>Ship stays pristine and cozy the entire series despite no way to get starfleet materials to repair the 10000 hull breaches. And they should have fun out of photons after season 2
>The fucking children focused episodes
>The most boring cast in ST history besides Doctor and 7

Do people actually watch Voyager?

It makes good background noise, idk if thats really "watching"

Not seen this in a while, takes me back...

Akoocheemoya, where did I put my bong?

Debatable, he's had some stinkers too. Plus the fact it's yet another reboot snd they way he's talked about what he wants to do with the show is a bit worrying.

ENT is better than VOY, other than that a correct ranking

Voyager was _____fun.

I wonder if Ms Trashbin still has the box set

Ok so I have noticed something weird watching Voyager

TNG and DS9 had a few extras and really minor side characters who cropped up in a few episodes

But every episode of VOY has this extra in it ? Idk if he was like the directors kid or something? He acts really badly and I wish they didnt let this extra be on the show so much, does anyone know the story behind this?

What worries me the most is how cryptic Fuller can be. At this point it's painfully obvious that he is trying to stir up hype and speculation, which gets me mad.

>$220

every star trek series is on netflix

Are DS9 fans being ironic?

DS9 was the most boring series in the franchise.

Unworthy prey / 10

Same here. DS9 had no exploration, the thing I liked most about Star Trek. It felt way to static.

I wish they had done more with the Gamma Quadrant , I think they never go through the wormhole after season 4 or some shit?

But the war and character development and exploration of Bajor is good in its own way

In most ST you have 40 minutes to learn about an alien culture, in DS9 you get a whole series focusing on one place and fleshing it out

They were goig to bin him but he won a sexiest man of the year prize in some womens mag so they kept him trying to get women to watch

because the wormhole was mined and 1000s of jem hadar ships just waited behind it.....

Its still a waste, they never really did anything with the Gamma Quadrant later on

I suspect its Voyagers fault desu, they had VOY in the Delta quadrant and dint want to feel like they where doing the same thing

I love Voyager.

y

No
Star Trek (plebs and manchildren now refer to it as TOS)
The 6 star trek movies.
Power gap.
The next generation.
Deep space 9.
That is all.

When will Tuvok get his chance?

Who?

Hannibal was 100% style, 0% substance, though

Easily the most vapid and directionless show on television

Prepare for disappointment.

DS9 is best.

they should just continue exploring space again

One of my favorite pastas

Threadly reminder that Gul Dukat did nothing wrong.

Well except for everything.

Rub one out on 7of9 and you are at it again

Add Locarno to your list and we are fine

>$220

So, let's settle this for once

Picard > Kirk > Janeway > Archer > black guy from DS9

74437717

Go fuck yourself

Can't hide the truth anymore.

>100% style
>directionless

i dont think you know what youre talking about

here's your you

Trips confirm Chakotay is a meme

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>Watching anything after TOS

Literally the plebiest thing possible

I was banned from watching this with my friends, for various reasons, including singing "An Ode to Neelix's Wang" every time the theme tune played

Fuck Marry Kill

Garak, Dukat, Damar

hello newcunt

>Chipotle

Have you made it to the episode where the lovable sidekick alien cultivates bacteria to make cheese, which infects Voyager's bio-neural circuitry and endangers the ship? That's really the high point of the entire experience

>any episode with neelix other than the one where he loses his lungs

>Dat Maquis and Federation tension

Resolved almost instantly and long forgotten by the writers

>Dat diverse cast of rookies, non-Starfleet members, holograms, Borg and new aliens

By itself it nothing.

>Dat feeling of isolation and desperation of a crew of lost travelers

LMAO NOOOOPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Dat potential for character development and varying relationships among the crew

Potential never explored

>Dat development on the Borg that is likely to ensue

Now I know you are trolling

Is putting TNG below DS9 and TOS an uncommon view? Ranking DS9 higher doesn't seem to be controversial at all, and TOS vs TNG is a debate that will never end.

>didn't know he was trolling from the very first line

newfag detected.

they're pretty big guys

>oh no, we got captured
>let's just stand here and look serious

Battlestar Galactica did it better.

They're tied up dingus.

Kill, Kill, Kill

Only good spoonhead is a dead one.

>not liking the one where he gets revived from death with borg implants and threatens to use the transporter.

Daily reminder that Enterprise was the very best Star Trek series ever produced.

It was Star Trek done right.

No faggots.
No feminism
No PC
Less technobabble
More realism
More character
Interesting aliens
Solid storytelling

Trektards hate it because it isn't gay enough.

That's quantum leap, silly

"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."

Archer is best Captain.

Grabs borg and pulls out its borg tubes... commences killing it with his bare hands.

Archer is a real man... not a flaky faggot, a token gibsmedat, or self-entitled feminot like the rest of them.

>Not liking the one where he has PTSD because a child's holodeck adventure reminded him of the time his entire family got to experience cleansing nuclear fire up close

Commander, let me swallow your sexual organs

What's the best Star Trek race and why is it the breen?

>It's a we have to get Spock laid or else he will die episode

...

>That one English recurring extra in tos
>They always have him wearing a red coat

Why do they have hair? Looks stupid.

My biggest concern about STD is that the first and only press release was about how there will be gays and they want black women for the captain and "main character". If that is all you can talk about, if how you choose to advertise your new chapter in the franchise is nothing but tumblr bait then that is already a red flag.

They're trying to keep the details of the show under wraps, so all they really can talk about at the moment is stuff like that, along with the crappy ship design. At this point we still have no idea what the show is even about, other than it's based on something in the script of Balance of Terror.

The identity of the characters is also a pretty reasonable topic to discuss, given that despite Star Trek's hallmark social progressiveness, they didn't show a female captain in TOS or have a gay character ever (as far as I remember anyway), outside possibly Mirrorverse Kira.

If it's still all they're talking about closer to release day then yeah, we're probably in trouble, but for now it's fine.

>DS9 has the highest ratio of alien main characters
>DS9 is the best series

Coincidence? I think not. If I wanted a show about the daily lives of human officers I'd watch JAG or something like that.

I bet it's about that crewman who kicks off over Spock because years earlier he lost loved ones against the Romulans.
It will probably revolve around the loss as it's set ten years before tos.

>Post Voyager

>Alien Captain

>Trans warp

>Exploring the bits of the Delta Quadrant Voyager didn't.

That's all I want.

>year after year the same copy posta

I can't even imagine what type of person you have to be to make these bots.

>CTRL-F "pasta"
>two results

Why do newfaggots unironically reply to autistic pasta?

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Kill yourselves. Cancer killing Cred Forums. Come up with something new.

>mentions its pasta in the third post of thread.
no one cares.

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>that sensation when all you wanna hear about is what kind of aliens and what kind of sci-fi themes Discovery will deal with

>But all anyone can tell you about the show is "diversity"

Mildly worrying.

This is the surviving Trekthread?

Jesus fucking Christ, weekend Cred Forums.

I grew up on TNG, and I'm not a huge fan of TOS. Just started watching DS9, and I really love it, but my nostalgia for TNG keeps me from admitting that it might eventually be better. It's not so far, though.

Voyager is shit. It's all on Netflix, why the fuck would you buy it?

Who cares about exploration or new lifeforms, It's stardate 2674.6, wake up Starfleet!

The best lines ever in any star trek be it tv show or movie were spoken by picard.

youtube.com/watch?v=o_eSwq1ewsU

youtube.com/watch?v=s3RNsZvdYZQ

>Meets wormhole aliens who can see the future
>"I don't believe the prophesies!"

Explain this.

He doesn't have proof. Belief and faith are thinking something is fact without evidence. He had no evidence.

They don't see the future, time has no meaning to them.

Would you support Pegg bringing in Nick Frost as Harry Mudd in the next film?

Yes, Frost always seemed like the sincere one.

I hope to god Pegg has as little to do as possible with the next movie. Beyond was absolute dogshit and it was 100% his fault.

He made Scotty the main character in a Star Trek movie and people wonder why it bombed.

Oh wow, another cis white male captain. How exciting! Maybe they can have an episode where he balances his checkbook after paying the bills!

>IT'S THE CURRENT FUTURE YEAR

Literally my biggest fear thanks to all the interviews about Trek.

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I haven't watched TOS in a while. Why couldn't he just do the meditation instead of dragging the ship and crew way off course?

>Voyager was the only one without a British character
>It's the worst one

Those are at least some good looking boxes.

>O'Brian
>British

my torrents take up alot less space..

What meditation? Vulcanians turn into insane psychopaths with an insatiable blood lust if they don't get some poontang during the Ponfarr.

out of space lube and kleenex.

Ireland is British clay, but Bashir.

>living in 4'x4' cardboard box.

You're right. I just looked it up and the meditation is just too temporarily control themselves until they get some 'tang.

wasn't O'Brien Scottish?

Actually I live in a very roomy waste disposal unit outside the Gay Men's Homeless Shelter in Detroit.

he was born in Ireland

>This is going to be the best $220 I've ever spent.
A high price to pay, but the countless hours of pure entertainment you will get in return makes it worth every penny.

Or he could spend $10 and get Netflix.

Bashier was British, o'brien was irish

VOY>ENT>TNG>TOS>DS9

Fixed that for you

Didn't read any posts ITT. See you Monday, /trek/.

That's why O'Brien hated him at first. Then again the Irish hate a lot of people.

Shit like Amazon and Netflixs lose the rights to films and shows all the time once their contract with the studio is up.

Meanwhile in physical media land I can still watch a VHS copy of a Disney film I bought 31 fucking years ago without any type of bullshit.

True that, I fucking hate all of you

>watch VHS
>no bullshit

clearly you've never used a VCR before

can you even hook up a vcr to modern TVs?

Most VCRs will have composite outs and most TVs still have at least one set of composite ins.

If you have a name bran VHS player, and treat your shit with respect it shouldn't be an issue. I have over 1000 vhs title. which I've been dubbing over to dvd since 2003. Still not done dubbing all of it, but I will one day.

Yea composite or an av to hdmi

Bullshit, you'd be cleaning the heads daily, don't make shit up

Of course I have a 4k 3D tv hooked up to a vhs player. Every now and again I'll by a rare film from the good will and watch it.

>you'd be cleaning the heads daily
How much dust do you have in your house, user? I have a head cleaner which I think I used once 12 years ago. Haven't had to use it since. It also helps if you don't use the vcr to rewind movies. Buy a vhs rewinder

k, if you insist, still don't really believe you tho
>dubbing since 03
>over 9000
>only cleaned the heads once
I just don't believe you, but ok at least its possible if not really plausible

Oh, look. Another gay bigot.

How tolerant.

DS9 is certainly more true to the situation. Starfleet is the military arm of the Federation. As good and nice as exploration is, let's not forget that this is a show about soldiers following orders. Gene wanted to show a utopia and paradise of socialism and equality among all races and genders and species and yadda yadda yadda, but we're talking about soldiers in uniforms following orders on missions for the space military. Too many people tend to forget that when they're all wrapped up in the warm and fuzzy feelings of character progression.

Who thought putting schools and daycares and nurseries and having families on the flagship of the Quadrant's largest military body? Defending the neutral zone from Romulan incursion with a ship of exploration filled with school kids? Brilliant plan.

There's a REASON why DS9 S06E19 "In the Pale Moonlight" is commonly regarded as the best episode of all Trek history.

kek

Except you're wrong, Starfleet is not a military organization. You do know you can have uniforms and ranks and follow orders without being a military right?

Most people who say this (myself included if I'm being perfectly honest) are just bitter that development stalled after a hardcore Xindi push. The whole last season was rushed as shit and the finale is one of the worst of any show I've ever watched. No audience payoff. No happy ending. Not even a spin-off teaser.

what the hell i never noticed that

Kirk said it was a military organisation.

So is everyone. It's a show that by definition can't amount to anything. It involves a crew with no notable members, on a ship never talked about, during a time of relatively nothing hoibg on. At least if it took place after DS9 or VOY, there could be character cameos or crossovers or story arcs with old favourites. This way, none of that can happen. No Borg. No Delta Quadrant. No Maquis. Nothing. It's already shit and that's even BEFORE all the SJW pandering.

Holy crap, Uhura's black?

Fuck off? We don't need to see THE FATE OF THE ENTIRE GALAXY IS AT STAKE in order to have a good time. I don't care how "notable" anything is, as long as the show is well-written, well-directed and well-acted.

Me too. Seven of Nine got me through puberty.

>No Borg

That's only because Phlox found a cure for assimilation a century earlier.

I feel like it's unfair to rank the captains because of their wildly different styles and purposes. Picard is best diplomat and ambassador, Sisko is best strategist and tactician, Janeway is best scientist and explorer, Kirk is best cowboy and manwhore, Archer is best pioneer and soldier.

Something a bit more self contained wouldnbe nice but I think his point is nothing actually happened in that period, no wars, no organisations created, no major new species or technology was discovered. They have backed themselves into an ENT sized corner that only an asspull could fix.

Passions is apparently a GOAT-tier Soap, but I don't into Soap.

Godspeed user.

gays can't be bigots m8y

Then how come tumblr hates Milo? Check and m8.

There can't be any new aliens because STD takes place before TNG, DS9 and VOY. So we'll at best see an episodic "first contact" with them, but their old news for fans of the franchise.

It's like being excited about seeing Andorians in ENT, but remembering they were in TNG.

Brent Spiner could cameo as Soong again, this time closer to creating the positronic brain.

>Andorians
>TNG
lal

I didn't say I was dubbing over 9000. I said that I was dubbing over 1000 vhs tapes onto dvd.
You do know that vhs player used to come with plastic covers back in the day right? They became less popular in the mid to late 90s because they would cover the air holes which would cause over heating , but you should always cover your vhs player when it's not in use.

Sisko is a better soldier than archer

Otherwise agreeable

I only remember seeing Andorians in one or two TOS episodes and Star Trek 4.

EXACTLY what my point was.

Sisko is an over the top angryfag.

Sisko was more of a rogue element than Archer. He was more angsty. More cowboyish. He had the whole "I'm the Emissary and Starfleet wants Bajor to join and Bajor listens to me because I'm the Emissary so I will do what I want and fuck you". He punched Q in the face. That's ballsy. He engineered the Romulans entering the Dominion war by going waaaaaay outside the lines. Sisko's second in command was literally a terrorist. Archer was a choir boy by comparison.

So what? Some of the all-time best episodes of Star Trek had no wars, no new organizations, no major new species or new technologies. Some of the all-time best episodes are simply characters that we like sitting around and talking. And you want to defend some dumb 4channer insisting that the new series is "already shit" because it lacks a new war?

Don't be dumb.

Sez the gay bigot.

>quintessentially british

The lack of a blue science officer saddens me

But the point is you saw them. So because STD takes place before 80% of the rest of the franchise, we as an audience won't be seeing any new alien races because they've been in other series or movies, so AT BEST we can hope for a first contact episode.

Which is to be kind of expected, the name of the series is literally Star Trek: DISCOVERY.

Yes, a lot of Indians are British.

Yep that's very british

TNG and Voyager had some weird anti-science vibes sometimes.

Like anyone who becomes a science officer is wasting their life.

While I agree some very fantastic episodes didn't have anything to do with Treking or exploring or new anything, like Measure of a Man for example. Those kinds of episodes are often fable like and tell a Star Trek-ized moral tale. Still good. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. The best episodes of the entire franchise often had a war, new alien race, new tech or new element of some kind. That's what the whole thing is about. Exploring the new. Seeking out new life, new planets, new ways of doing things.

>be that old in Starfleet
>never make it past Lieutenant Junior Grade

That was more to show how unambitious his alternate self would have been, not that the position itself was worthless. It's only worthless compared to the Captain rank we all know he's capable of.

I agree for the most part. Blue uniforms were often than not limited to medical staff and not the scientific community. Especially in TNG the scientific community were more times than not civilians not really affiliated with Starfleet.

>new alien race, new tech or new element of some kind. That's what the whole thing is about. Exploring the new. Seeking out new life, new planets, new ways of doing things.
And we're going to have all of these.

If the only complaint is that it's not a "major" new something, then how do you even watch Star Trek? Are you the sort of person who skips any episode where nothing of "major" importance happens?

Giving myself a (you) because of those trips double dubs.

I never thought Garret Wang was terrible. He was okay. Not spectacular, but that was the fault of the people who made the show. There was literally a point where an executive or some such person sat down with the main cast at lunch and told the actors playing humans to downplay their emotions and be more two-dimensional. The creators wanted the aliens to stick out more. Big mistake. ST has always been human-centric. It's about exploring the human condition, not expanding on a fictional universe.

Wang has talked about this at multiple cons. He's actually a super nice guy and was frustrated with a lot of shit that went down during the making of Voyager.

Why is there never an "Alien" captain in Star Trek yet? I get there's kind of a theme of humans becoming advanced and enlightened very fast and they use that to kind of show it, but I think it would be really cool to have a 300 year old Trill captain or Vulcan or something

The Miranda ship that gets toasted in the first minute of DS9 had a Vulcan captain.

No human could survive Phlox's cure.

Only Denobulans, and he only barely survived.

Troi shouldn't have made it past that. Always felt like anything above ensign or at best jr lieutenant was unwarranted and outside of her skill set. You don't need or deserve a commander rank for being a good counsellor. She's shit at leadership. Not to mention doesn't have a staff. Geordi has a staff. Beverly has a staff. Makes sense for them to be commanders. But Troi? Nah.

Let's face it. In the Star Trek universe, logic and reason are bad and emotional gut-based actions are good. George W. Bush must have been the savior of the USA in that time-line.

I meant as one of the main characters like Picard or Sisko

I couldn't stand George W. Bush.

But at least he was smarter than your average trektard.

I don't know about later franchises or episodes, but there has been a long standing cost problem. Captain Worf never became a thing because makeuping and prosthetics are wildly expensive and super time consuming to get in and out of.

Welcome to post colonialism, bong.

>implying that belonging to a certain race, gender, sexual ethnicity, other group of people, etc exempts an individual from being a bigoted dingbat that doesn't have to take responsibility for their words or actions

I don't care if you're a multi-gendered, pansexual, multi-limbed, silicon-based life from from Alpha Centauri. It's your actions as a living being that define you.

B R U T A L O G I C A L

>it's an alternate universe/timeline episode
they're as cliche as they can be, but I love them

Denobulans have very long tongues.

How can Tucker compete?

ENT was hit or miss, but when it hit it fucking HIT.
That episode where they learned about the auto repair station? That was incredibly interesting. I wanted to learn more about it/ who made it.
Or when there were 2 enterprises after the ENT crew failed their mission and got flung back in time. That was interesting.

... And then there was 'A night in sickbay'...

There's nothing wrong with 'A night in sickbay'.

But then you also have, 'The Seventh', 'The Communicator', 'Singularity', 'Vanishing Point', & 'Precious Cargo' one right after the other.

Was The Communicator the one with the pre-warp civilization? I thought that was pretty good.

A night in sickbay was beyond terrible.
Though it did change the way I saw Enterprise. During that episode Archer displayed serious signs of bipolar disorder (radical mood swings, etc). So from then on I watch Enterprise from the perspective that Archer was a legit insane.
It actually makes 100% sense. Seriously. Watch the series with that thought in mind. Suddenly all his random outbursts and shifts in logic all mean something.

>Star Trek (plebs and manchildren now refer to it as TOS)

Oh I get it. You're one of those trolls, haha good one.

That's usually just an after effect of a prolonged exposure to garbage trek.

Very unfortunate, but I've heard that in some cases it is curable.

That guy is such a terrible actor. Then again Weyoun is the only good recurring alien.

They don't even know how to play baseball. Would you trust someone saying they could see the future if they didn't even know about baseball?

bashir was ashamed because his parents couldn't poo in loo

what the fuck is this garbage

Fuller is one of the main reasons I am worried about the new show. Everything hes done has been cancelled. I also don't like the way he does characters. He relies too much on visuals. Hannibal was pretty looking, but a lot of the characters were cliche as fuck.

Look at his failed Munster pilot. It too far removed from the old TV show. It should have been its own thing but thats not what he was paid to create. Then everything I keep hearing about Star Trek is making me more and more worried. I know he got his start writing for DS9 and Voyager, but that was so long ago and under someone else's watch.

Hell, isn't he also showrunning American Gods? None of this is going to end well.

Weyoun.

Well, what you describe could be one of a few... 'The Communicator', 'Civilization', or 'Dear Doctor' for instance.

was for

Enterprise had plenty of new aliens though?

>The Bashirs come to DS9 and Odo arrests them because they're trying to SHIT ON HIS PROMENADE

>Cue Quark snidely remarking that even Ferengi know how to poo in the loo

Breen aren't a race. They're a society made up of different races.

The uniform covers it up.

>novels
Get out.

90% of the problem was Data not being in blue. Dax got to do a lot as science officer. Voyager didn't really have one until Seven became the effective unofficial science officer.

>tfw I watched this episode before knowing what lesbians were

I didn't know what was happening between Kira and herself but I liked it.

Because Data wasn't the science officer, he was the operations officer.

His job was to reroute power from auxiliary systems to reinforce the primary systems, order people and supplies to move from one location to another, and to file paperwork.

Data was both, but operations was more important. Odd when none of the other operations officers were significant or even named, except maybe Eternal Ensign Kim.

ACKshuallee...

Seems like a stretch to call it a mistake. If anyone could do double duty as operations and science officer, it's Data.

If it wasn't a mistake then they probably would have called him a science officer at least ONE more time in seven years.