MARVEL ON SUICIDE WATCH

>First 3 Marvel films
1.4 billion on 500 mil budget
>First 3 DCEU films
2.3 billion on 625 mil budget

; )

fuck off weeb

>not counting worldwide sales

it's like you don't even know where Marvel makes money

Now that Suicide Squad is a confirmed wild success, will journalists and the media stop their hate campaign against the glorious right wing powerhouse that IS the DCEU?

You're not very good at math are you? it's already beaten Iron man... iron man 2 made $112 million profit and suicide squad made $128 million profit.

>no competition
>hyped as hell
>can't even match BvS

lol no

>Budget: $175 million

It cost more. Still a solid box office hit, though.

>Domestic
LOL
Now do it again with worldwide.

Why do you worthless beta-males care so much about a dumb children's flick? Watch The Lobster; maybe it will make your taste in film better.

The fact that they've now got to report this and eat crow is hilarious, especially the Mary Sue

themarysue.com/more-people-saw-suicide-squad-than-captain-america-the-winter-soldier-internationally/
uk.movies.yahoo.com/suicide-squad-has-earned-more-than-captain-194942018.html
batman-news.com/2016/09/18/suicide-squad-beat-captain-america-spider-man/
comicbook.com/dc/2016/09/18/suicide-squad-passes-captain-america-the-winter-soldier-at-world/

>Ant Man couldn't even match Winter Soldier

what a piece of shit.

Don't forget the merchandise and soundtrack as well. The soundtrack was #1 for at least 3 weeks.

>Domestic is the only one that counts bros!
>N...no wait! No it doesn't!

> The film has yet to surpass this year’s Captain America: Civil War (which has raked in a whopping $1.1 billion so far) but there’s still time to catch up.
>Comparing Captain Boomerang and Harley Quinn to the franchise powerhouse of a late MCU film to save face

Oh jesus my sides

Really impressive.
With China they would've already beaten GotG at the global count.

>watching indie cuckshit

"No"

When Dr Strange blows this out of the water will OP kill himself? I really hope so

It's releasing in Japan tomorrow, should be good for an extra 15 mil, easy

Reminder that Doctor Strange had massive reshoots to add more quips and RDJ.

It's kino. Capesheep like you will never know what a real film is like.

Well Cred Forums, aren't you going to to apologize?

Suicide squad wasn't shown in china, if they didn't ban the film they would've made 40 mil minimum from there

It released last week. Already made $9.5 mil in nipbux

Huh, I heard 20th September

Unfortunately no one cares because they give Marvel a free pass on this. To them Marvel can do no wrong.

>muh DC is good because they fail at everything just like me meme
Fuck off

I always had faith.

>First 3 Marvel films
>Are about characters only comic book nerds care about
>First 3 DCEU films
>Are about Superman and Batman, two of the biggest pop culture icons

;)

SEETHING

only autists say worldwide doesn't count, senpai

>Joker is a gangster
>"NOT THE JOKER DC IS SHIT HOW CAN THEY FUCK UP SO BAD"

>Ancient One is a woman and Mary Jane is a nig
>"woah hey that's totally cool, man. What are you, a Trump voter?"

>>First 3 Marvel films
>>Are about characters only comic book nerds care about
>The Hulk
>Mr Marvel himself, Iron Man
>Sam Jackson
>ROBERT DOWNEY FUCKING JUNIOR

Oh I'm laughing

>7 big guys
> 3 pretty/cute manlets

What did WB mean by this?

...and Deadshot, a character only comic book nerds care about.

also
>comic book readers
>caring about Iron Man

lol no

>waaahhhh DC has better characters

Bring it up with Stan Lee

>Oh hey I recognise Batman and Superman...guess I'd better go so this film!
I don't think you know how this shit works m8

One is poor characterization and the other is irrelevant and cosmetic.
Also quit the Cred Forums shit or you're getting a report for racism. Read the fucking rules newfag

>characters only comic book nerds care about

No one's given a fuck about Marvel comics since the 90s, and even then it was all about X-men.

Hell, their biggest arcs are super pander-y ones, ie, Spider-man getting his mind swapped with Doc Ock or that one arc about Tony getting wrecked and getting the cybernetic upgrades

Nobody outside comic book nerds gave a fuck about Iron Man before 2008, and RDJ was a washed-out irrelevant junkie before Iron Man literally saved his career.

>Nobody outside comic book nerds gave a fuck about Iron Man before 2008, and RDJ was a washed-out irrelevant junkie before Iron Man literally saved his career.
Not even comic fans cared about Iron Man nigga.

There's a reason even the most successful comic serials get, at best, 100k buys. Fucking End Game (the end of the DC nu52 Universe) got 120k and it was on the back of a Batman/Joker arc

Played by fucking Will Smith, one of the most bankable actors ever.

Why are DC threads so comfy?

The Lobster was shit

Will is recognisable but I wouldn't say bankable after a few of his movies flop.

>one of the most bankable actors ever.

I'm sorry, is it the late 90s?

>announcing reports

That's literally how it works.

>Nobody outside comic book nerds gave a fuck about Iron Man

comic book nerds didn't and still don't care about him.

Announcing a report happens after the report, I can ask people to report you or threaten with a report as long as I haven't done it yet.
Lrn 2 loophole faggot

Lol?

Just because you recognise something doesn't mean you're going to consume media that has that something in it, you retard.

>Evansposting is already dying

Will is still highly bankable, bro. It's telling he only has one bonafide flop in his entire filmography.

Fine, spider-man is marvel's most popular character, let's compare the raimi trilogy to the dceu

Spider-man = 140 mil budget 820 mil gross
MoS = 225 mil budget 670 mil gross

Spider-man 2 = 200 mil budget 783 mil gross
BvS = 250 mil budget 873 mil gross

Spider-man 3 = budget 258 mil 890 mil gross
Sue sie skwad = 175 mil budget 719 mil gross

Fuck

Does he deserves all the hate he gets?

Iron Man's last good arc was Extremis and even then it was good, not great.

Even when it came time to do the arc in the MCU they fudged it. As well as Demon in a Bottle...and Civil War...

You know, have Marvel ever successfully done a comic arc in their films?

You overestimate the masses my friend.

no

Look at pretentious retards like
And answer your own question.
He deserves all the hate he gets.

No. They don't even bother to adapt their characters, much less the stories. Even with Civil War, which was their biggest story they've tried to adapt, they just made a bunch of shit up and slapped a name on. Demon in a Bottle Iron Man's best story and Disney refuses to allow it.

Who wants to bet the next Captain America movie is a half-assed Secret Wars adaptation?

>Oh hey that's Will Smith I recognise him let's go see this film!
I don't think this happens en masse, or his series of box office flops wouldn't have happened lad

the salt is real

>luther
>not luthor

I can't believe they relegated Demon in a Bottle to 3 minutes of Tony having a drink and fucking his own house up before coming to his senses.

The fuck

How about we just admit that Snyder and WB are doing DC a disservice and stop pretending those movies are good and hope we'll get something better in the future?
Like Batfleck's solo movie.

So is the pretentiousness surrounding toy catalogues.

without the success of the MCU this movie wouldn't even be made

>doing DC a disservice
>Batman comic sales up
>Superman comic sales up
>Fucking HARLEY QUINN and Suicide Squad comics overtaking Batman comic sales
>Making mad bank on the IP

Aye, a total disservice lad

Snyder didn't direct SS which is why it was actually decent, WB's post-production hackjob aside.

>surprised that marvel movies flopped

>1467829084512
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>archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/71965942/#71966525
>reddit
i'd say so lmao.

It's not about the money, it's about the art. Won't someone please think of the art!

I don't even like most Marvel characters but the movies were their chance of MAKING me care. Instead they skipped over the stories that are actually good and just threw in a bunch of middling shit that doesn't matter.

Like, why would you not build on the good parts of your characters for the movies? Why jettison quality in favor of banality?

>the biggest marketing campaign in history

lel

>Snyder's movies are so shit people are buying comics to see if they're as shit
>this is seen as a good thing by tryhard DCucks

This and OP is literally proof that meme marketing is the best way for your movie to go and fucking deadpool had an r rating against it too

MEME MARKETING WILL BE THE FUTURE OF MARKETING FLICKS

Because they'd rather turn all the characters in to Spider-man-like characters. Bloody Civil War had Spider-man in it and he was out quipped by Ant-Man and Captain fucking America

Marvel has it's own comic charm, when DC is mostly a tryhard who failed 2 times in a row.

Why is Marvel vs DC such a big thing on Cred Forums?

Do movie execs who make Marvel movies care is DC movies do well? Does the average moviegoer who enjoys the superhero genre prefer one company over the other?

It doesn't seem, to me, that Marvel and DC movies are really competing against each other. But when I read Cred Forums that doesn't seem to be the case.

TV shows? Sure. If a DC show is a 8pm and a Marvel show is at the same time, then the viewer has to select the one they want to watch live. But movies are different right?

I'm confused.

we've got an archive detective
better watch out

It's not that there's any antagonism between Marvel and DC, it's about MCU and Zack Snyder.

>Snyders movies make people care about the IP again after the mess left by Superman Returns, Green Lantern, and numerous botched TV series attempts
>This is seen as a bad thing

Superman family Nu52 comics increased to record highs in the months after MoS and the same happened with BvS and SS. Can't deny that he's done better than DC's own attempts at making people give a fuck about their IP.

Hell, BvS increased Batman family comics (Batman/Detective Comics in particular) sales 40% MORE than the Dark Knight Trilogy did. The IP is now more valuable than ever.

Fuck off DCuck, you got EXPOSED as a redditor retard. How embarrassing.

>ant man
>wasn't a hank pym movie

shit movieverse

>>Oh hey that's Will Smith I recognise him let's go see this film!

Sure he's not as bankable now as he was in the 90's, but why cast him as a character that is white in the source material? same reason Joker and Batman were forced in the movie, people are familiar with those characters.

>Why is Marvel vs DC such a big thing on Cred Forums?
>on Cred Forums

Marvel vs DC has always been a GIANT pissing contest. For the first time in living memory, Marvel are winning at something, and worse, it's very public because movie BO is made public, so DC can't spin it as something good.

Basically because films are involved now, the pissing contest is back to 90s comic fans level of insanity.

Cred Forums hates Marvel movies because they're popular, so they rally behind DC movies and shitpost a lot. Zack Snyder himself is notoriously butthurt about the MCU and has thrown shade at them often, which sparks even more flame wars.

But Hank Pym punching government guy though?

>why cast him as a character that is white in the source material?
>Deadshot
>White

user...

>Why is Marvel vs DC such a big thing on Cred Forums?
It wasn't until the Cred Forumsedditors started flooding this board. All of this capeshit war stuff was always quarantined to Cred Forums

I bought the dark knight returns after watching BvS without paying because that's the kind of products I prefer from DC.
Snyder needs to get fired.

>Marvel vs DC has always been a GIANT pissing contest.
Interesting. I never knew.

>For the first time in living memory, Marvel are winning at something

Marvel was often ahead, man. They were so big in the 70's they even turned down the chance to buy DC when it was facing bankrupcy.

>t doesn't seem, to me, that Marvel and DC movies are really competing against each othe
DC is definitely competing with Marvel.

Marvel is pic related.

came here to post this, DCucks and MCUcks on suicide watch

Cred Forums knows that Marvel's makes the good movies but secretly support the underdog DC. Honestly no matter how much they deny it DC threads always end up being talked about here more and having good conversations than Marvel. But of course this sometimes these threads are started by butthurt DC fans.

And then Marvel almost went bankrupt in the 90s and crashed the entire comic industry

people who don't like marvel want DC to succeed because they're their direct competition

>good conversations
All I see are memes and flamewars.

Keep trying

>massive reshoots
Just the standard pictography

It's not really true. They had a friendly rivalry throughout their existence and often collaborated. It only became a real and bitter feud in the early 2000's.

>Marvel is pic related.
Which it really isn't. If you are not bias towards each brand you'll notice that Marvel fans like to rub salt of the DC fans. Let's not forget the endless criticism they get because DC movies don't follow or miserable fail at copying the Marvel formula.

I wondered what caused that.

whats wrong kiddo? upset that i know your true nature and ideals?

Everyone who saw it and wasn't blinded by fanboyism and company wars thought it was mediocre.
Everyone except 13 fangirls and boys, which surprise surprise, is their main return audience.

I guess that means both Marvel and DC are franchises founded on infantility, both that of manchildren like Cred Forums as well as that of actual children.

>literally rewrote Captain America 3 to be Civil War to compete with DC
>pushed Hydra Cap meme as soon as Rebirth started to try and take away press from DC (failed)
>Quesadilla regularly shittalks DC

lol ok MCUck

>Marvel fans
>DC fans
Companies =/= fans.
> the endless criticism they get because DC movies don't follow or miserable fail at copying the Marvel formula.
Nobody's criticizing Batman Begins or The Dark Knight for that, I notice.

>right wing
Did we even watch the same movie?

DC has always had better characters. The only difference is that Marvel has some TV guys making big-screen adaptations of their characters on the reg while DC is beholden to WB.

>right wing

What?

Captain America had China which means had Suicide Squad, China it would have done better than Civil War. Nice try, disney cunt!

>DC has always had better characters
I wouldn't say that.

>i-if it had made more money, it would've made more money!
Well, yes. But it didn't.

Speak up, DCuck.

I can't hear you way down there under a billion.

>Which it really isn't
Actually it is. You don't see Marvel copying DC's formula or trying to directly compete with them meanwhile DC made Suicide Squad to be exactly like Guadians.

>literally rewrote Captain America 3 to be Civil War to compete with DC
Nope. Civil War was a thing before BvS was even in early script chnages.
>pushed Hydra Cap meme as soon as Rebirth started to try and take away press from DC
Marvel is always doing stupid gimmicks, has nothing to do with DC and what they were doing
>Quesadilla regularly shittalks DC

F-f-f-f-f-fuck M-m-m-m-m-marvel guise! Right? I'm sorry

>Nobody's criticizing Batman Begins or The Dark Knight for that, I notice.

Because those were good movies.

DC doesn't need to follow any formulas. They just need to make a good movie. But they can't.

You forgot to calculate the average, user. Divide the result by 5 and there you have it.

>SS which is why it was actually decent

DCucks got BTFO literally everywhere so they have to concentrate their shitposting here to get reassurance since it's their last bastion

this is it
Marvelcucks and DCfags completely and utterly BTFO
FOXBROS WHERE YOU AT

probably the retarded chinks latching onto it again.

Not that i care i dont wunna watch garbage

MoS was bad enough BvS was horrible

Marvel hasnt made a good movie since winter soldier and sony is literally JUST tier
Also Xmen went full x3 so its now shit as well

How did the first Thor cost 150M? That's almost 100 million more than how the movie looked like.

>The Island
Such a frustrating movie. It has some incredible sequences like the fucking chase, or MCD waking up in the middle of an organ harvest, but the rest falls so flat that it drags the whole thing down.

The Punisher for PS2 and Xbox. An entire Stark level with Iron Man cameo.

Natalie.

This has been the dynamic of the two long before they were making movies.

Because that's what made them so much money, as sad as it is.

I LOVE CARA

I HAVE GREAT INTENSE FANTASIES ABOUT BEING SEXUALLY DOMINATED BY ENCHANTRESS

Joe Quesada, the newly-promoted editor-in-chief of Marvel, hated DC and encouraged antagonism between the two.

this desu

Going to be honest, I was laughing at this movie and the hilarious Leto Joker "hype" their marketing was trying to cultivate, his ridiculous fucking stupid tattoos, his grill, Leto's "Joker voice" during a 30 seconds to Mars concert, the fact he's seemingly doing a Jim Carrey impression at points...

Ended up enjoying the movie overall despite how obviously butchered it seemed to be in editing and some really strong feelings of second-hand embarrassment and douchechill cold sweat sort of feelings, guilty pleasure type feelings that deeply confuse me. Like being turned on by a new really depraved fetish for the first time or something.

Like I feel a cold sweat during the whole Joker nightclub scene because I feel embarrassed to be watching it with other people but I simultaneously kind of unironically enjoy aspects of Leto's ridiculous performance and his aesthetic now. Feeling a little dirty because they managed to get me to think Joker diving off the platform into the chemicals looks awesome and then cringing hard when the music swells and he's diving down to Harley through the chemicals.

Basically I'm an idiot who fell for the memes. Someone who liked the idea of contrarian shitposting about how Leto is the best Joker so much, and who went in with such low sincere expectations, that I'm actually starting to believe all of it.

And all the Enchantress effects were genuinely pretty cool and I want Cara Delevingne covered in mud like a swamp witch to sit on my face and grind around on it and have her jangly outfit jingle jangle while she covers me in sticky stuff, like a snail. Can't wait to see her in 1080p.

p.s. HONKA HONKA

>implying anyone saw the Island for any reason other than it was in a bargain DVD bin + had fake ObiWan's mug and a pair of tits on the cover.

We all understand if SS were actually GOOD movie, it could easily break 1 bil. DCEU survives only because names of of it's characters of superior universe,

Ooooh wiggle dat worm

>marvel
i know this eating you up inside marvelshits. beaten at your own game

>p.s. HONKA HONKA

*hunka

I would be a Foxbro if Apocalypse was as good as DOFP

>over $720mil WW
Damn Skwad.

>Yes, even comic-book franchises promote ideology. This may come as a shock to consumers still stuck on the idea that Hollywood wants to entertain more than indoctrinate. Even normally sophisticated folks who are unschooled in recognizing hegemony or realizing how the culture system functions today prove susceptible to the lure of apparently innocuous entertainment. They hold onto adolescent consumerist gullibility, and this is the ideology that Suicide Squad’s producer, Zack Snyder, is up against.

>If DC is the conservative comic-book universe to Marvel’s pseudo-progressivism, it couldn’t be more unpopular among kids who enjoyed the ludicrous platitudes of Avengers: Age of Ultron.

>They both (Snyder and Ayer) approach a childish genre like adults — and that’s what annoys the Marvel kids, whose bad rap on Suicide Squad has already gone viral.

>Think metaphorically again, and see that Suicide Squad entangles post-Vietnam and post-9/11 notions about heroism and citizenship. Deadshot does the right, patriotic thing, yet compliments Waller, his treacherous superior, saying, “That’s gangsta!” This use of hip-hop cynicism speaks more directly to modern confused ethics than most lines from other movies and most politicians. Suicide Squad is The Dirty Dozen for millennial viewers (and voters), who think their patriotic moral conflict is new.

>implying blockbuster wasn't still a thing when this was released
>Implying that based Bayham wasn't always appreciated

>Jared mad because he's not next to Margot

Poor guy.

>beaten by a lesbian fish cartoon sequel

Damn that's gotta sting.

wtf i love suicide squad now

Is this some poor attempt at justifying Snyder's being a hack?

Samuel L. Jackson has never sold a movie by himself I give you Scarlett Johansson she is no longer box office poison but she is not Will Smith

you kinda forgot batman and joker

>Actually it is. You don't see Marvel copying DC's formula or trying to directly compete with them meanwhile DC made Suicide Squad to be exactly like Guadians.
Marvel's entire universe was started on the success of Batman Begins m8

No, it started on the success of Iron Man. Batman is a DC property.

Batman Begins wasn't even a big success

Why average? Marvel made far more money and that's the fact. I know it would be cute for you take an average of 5 least profitable of Marvel's, what 15-20 movies and compared it to one of 3 flops that DC put out, but it's not gonna cut it

>Mr Marvel himself, Iron Man

Iron Man was nobody before his movies. The fact you consider him 'Mr. Marvel' now it only a proof of how phenomenally successful was the Iron Man

>3 flops

What flops?

You know, DC movies. All 3 of them. Those 3 movies that people and critics hated and made much less than it was expected of them

batman-news.com/2016/09/18/suicide-squad-beat-captain-america-spider-man/

>Last weekend Suicide Squad crossed the $700 million mark, and this weekend it continued to dominate at the box office!

>To date, David Ayer’s movie about bad guys has made about $718 million world wide. That is a huge number for a brand new superhero movie franchise, especially one that got banned in China, the second biggest movie market. It’s also huge number for a movie that got absolutely destroyed by critics.

>At $718 million world wide, Suicide Squad has also passed two huge movies based on Marvel characters. Marvel Studios’ Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which was hot off billion dollar movies like The Avengers and Iron Man 3 and received rave reviews, made $714 million. And that’s with $115 million from China!

>Spider-Man is arguably Marvel’s most popular superhero, and Sony’s The Amazing Spider-Man 2 made $708 million (with the help of China) in 2014.

>There’s been a lot of negatively surrounding Suicide Squad in the mainstream press, but the facts are out there now. It’s extremely interesting and surprising to me that a brand new superhero franchise that got critically destroyed just beat two of the biggest superhero franchises in the world this weekend!

Warner brothers has worked out their winning combination, reddit edits with quipsquipsquips.

We've finally won bros!

Leave marvel to me

> Those fucking meme arrows on every sentence

I bet I've got more Marvel Cancer than you.

>Suicide Squad has earned more than Captain America: The Winter Soldier
>Despite overwhelmingly negative reviews, it looks as though ‘Suicide Squad’ has defied the critics. Highly anticipated by audiences across the globe, ‘Suicide Squad’ opened to a record-breaking $267.1 million - the highest opening movie for the month of August. And it seems audiences are still turning out to see it.

>According to Box Office Mojo, ‘Suicide Squad’ has now made a staggering $718.8 million at the box office. Not only does this make the off-kilter comic book movie a huge success, but it also surpasses the highly-regarded ‘Captain America: The Winter Soldier’, which managed a grand total of $714.4 million.

>Marvel won’t be too pleased about that.

>For one thing, ‘Suicide Squad’ was dogged by negative reviews ahead of the movie’s opening, with most critics in agreement that the film’s loosely entertaining plot soon fell completely flat.

>But most surprisingly, this follows the crushing news that ‘Suicide Squad’ would not be opening in China - one of the world’s biggest film markets. Despite this enormous setback, it looks as though Warner Bros. have managed to bag an unexpected hit.

>And with a sequel on the way and a Harley Quinn spin-off, it could be big business.

How did Snyder do it?

probably. i only kept the worst.

>DC can notice 1 billion metaphors and subtle poetry in BvS, but can't distinguish an obvious parody when they see one

wew, lad

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>investing in DCEU will give you TWICE the return of investing in MCU

disney investors in suicide watch

Then have some sweet ammo

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>Starwmaning this badly

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this is the worst that there ever was and ever will be

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Here's a challenger.

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Shitty Business Practices!

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please stop

It's true. All DC has to do is greenlight a bunch of low-budget movies starring Margo Robbie as Harley Quinn.

> I think we know how this ends.

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