Let's have a thread about this. Good character, set, creature, costume design, it all often gets overlooked if the movie it's in happens to be shit.
I'll get it started. Pic related is a good example. The Nautilus, and Nemo's car, are both stunning. A few of the costumes ain't bad either. Shame about everything else.
I liked John Carter. But no else else seemed to. Anyway, the creatures were cool.
anything from the prequel trilogy except those garbage separatist droids
This is a cool moment. I also really like the weird little baby Transformers growing in tanks in this movie. Also Megatron as a homeless crazy dude with a cloak in the third one is fun.
The wheel things were cool. But yeah, the tripods were wank.
Prometheus. all the wonderful work on the visuals and set designs, then spending 10 minutes on the dialog really screwed it.
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But everything here is fucking ridiculous looking.
The Neimoidians were originally a different design and the separatist droids look like theur skeletons, Terminator style.
cant even tell what's happening
exactly what I'm saying these look like shit
I don't know what was lucas thinking
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aeon flux sets
I know it aas a show but the pilot was released theatrically overseas.
The Nautilus is the coolest looking seacraft ever designed, in real life or fantasy.
LXG as a whole had absolutely amazing conceptual and production designers. It's such a shame their talents were wasted on a fairly bad movie.
>garbage separatist droids
but the droids are perfect. I can't believe they only existed since Episode 1, the design looks so classical I still find hard to believe I didn't see one of them in the classic trilogy
Jupiter ascending
But Godzilla 98 was a great movie
Bumblebee is ripping Ravage in half and his spine is showing. Anyone got the webm?
Sounds kind of cool
>cant even tell what's happening
that's the michael bay magic™
Pretty much everything in "The Chronicles of Riddick" was brilliantly designed.
A special mention should go to the Necromonger "Necropolis" ship. That "Art Deco meets late Baroque"-style is really unlike everything ever seen on film and I loved it.
One could see why that movie would go on to become a sort of cult classic (seriously, I'd even go as far as to say that the movie was somewhat "ahead of its time", simply because the perceived silliness and "over-the-top-ness" of the movie was downright tame compared to the blissful wackiness and "balls out"-attitude that would make "Mad Max: Fury Road" an enormous crowd pleaser ten years later)
Of course that notion also extends to the movie's costume design (note that parts of the Necromonger armor were later re-used in some Doctor Who episodes).
And maybe I was wrong to compare "Chronicles" to "Fury Road", since "Chronicles" did OF COURSE have some major flaws, such as heavy-handed expository dialogue and heavy reliance on CG-effects (none of which can be attributed to "Fury Road", since it does away with the expository dialogue altogether and uses CGI as a mere extension of the practical effects work)
forgot pic
Despite Metropolis' story is a bunch of offensively Fascist bullshit and the movie drags on for way too long, got to love the amazing visual design of this film.
Wasn't that ship designed by the guy who designed the snowspeeder in empire?
>offensively Fascist bullshit
Have you even watched the movie, boy?
hey now, this is a thread for bad movies
Yes, it's filled with offensively fascist bullshit.
>Workers rise up against cruel boss
>Workers though are fucking retards and destroy their own homes and drown their own children
>Boss is still a cruel evil person and wants to continue subjugating the workers
>Freder comes in and acts as the "mediator" between Capital and Labour, where Capital are the "brains" and Labour are the "Hands", Freder (the State) are the "Heart".
The film was literally written by a Nazi propagandist Thea von Harbou and the film was the favourite film of Hitler and Goebbels, in fact, Hitler even saw himself as Freder.
How long ago did you arrive from r*ddit?
The CG in Fury Rad, when it was used, was offensively bad though
I'd put the guitar at the end at the same level as that fucking stupid singer shouting into the camera in Jabba's palace, utterly awful
Dude, seriously, take some history lessons. Yes, Thea von Harbou was indeed a bleeding-heart fascist. Yet this movie is completely devoid of this sort of mindset.
Everything you greentexted there, apart from the last line (which is pure conjecture) could be deemed socialist propaganda as well.
And then there's the question Zeitgeist:
If anything, the movie has an overall anti-futurist sentiment to it. Note that it's Futurism that can be considered the original fascist art form.
In spite of everything right-wingers try to make you believe, fascism is still defined by a strict adherence to authoritarianism which this movie does NOT display. There "Hero of the People" trope is way older than fascism and despite some hints of Machiavellianism here and there, neither Freder, nor any other character in this movie is portrayed as a "good dictator".
If you want to catch a whiff of Thea von Harbou's fascist ideology, go watch "Die Nibelungen". As for "Metropolis": The script was as much Lang's work as it was von Harbou's. And Lang wasn't a fascist at all.
And who cares if Goebbels and Hitler liked it. For all we know, Kim Jong-Il liked western softcore porn. Does that make western softcore porn a totalitarian art form?
>FASHIST FASHIST!!!!! FASHISM!!!!!
>I'd put the guitar at the end at the same level as that fucking stupid singer shouting into the camera in Jabba's palace
Extremely well said, goes to show the length people will go to be offended by and dislike something they even perceive as espousing views they disagree with
Well, I actually just had a feeling that the original post was written by someone who has no real grasp of the Weimar Republic and art in the 1920s.
I'm not an overly political person and if anything I'd consider myself liberal/left-leaning. But you can't just go around calling stuff "fascist" that clearly isn't.
Furthermore, Thea von Harbou wasn't really subtle when it came to stating her political and ideological opinion. That's why I pointed out "Die Nibelungen" which is a beautiful movie but just oozes with "Blut und Boden"('Blood and Soil')-sentimentality.
This guy knows his shit.
Helena Bonham Carter is well designed but starred in an awful lot of mediocre Tim Burton movies.
Also: Recent Tim Burton movies in general. Nice touches here and there but none of the original magic.
>kkkkrkrkrrcchththththththttttttttt
If the concept of "style over substance" needed a name it would be "Tron: Legacy".
The whole movie is just beautifully designed, but man is it a bore.
Fuuuck, just realised the armor could be based on Dracula's armor.
Get that garbage artless visual vomit out of here. Nothing in this shot is even real. I cant even tell what it is.
Ridiculous sure, but still kinda cool and interesting. If anything, the prequels had some decent visuals.
Pacific Rim had cool looking sets and the kaijus were fucking GOAT in their design.
I see your point. But I think Tron Legacy was, for the most part, pretty fucking entertaining. It only falls down when they get on that light barge to go to The Final Battle.
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ah, the Coppola version? Good call! That movie was rather stylish as well.
The difference is that Chronicle's Art Deco approach was far more consequential.
Its still disgusting to look at. Why did Bay approve of such shitty visuals?
You're right. HALF of it was entertaining. Sadly, the whole second half was ill-paced and utterly predictable, plot-wise.
That's his bread and butter, dude. You know how people take the piss out of Lucas for saying "it's so dense, there's so much going on." Bay has taken that concept and turned it to 11.
>Bay has a great love of flashy effects, stroboscopic editing and loud crashes; he famously calls his cinematic technique "fucking the frame". That phrase might be brutal, but it's accurate. And there's no doubt about it: he really has given the frame a right old seeing-to this time. Bay has turned up at the frame's flat with some unguent massage oils, scented candles and a hundredweight of Viagra. It isn't long before the headboard of the frame's bed is crashing repeatedly against the wall, while the frame gazes up at the ceiling ... and I think the frame is faking it.
I'd say more than half. But yeah, sure.
The first movie is definitely more boring, plot-wise. But it had some brilliant Mobius designs.
It really sticks out in the campy, quippy Joss Faggot version of Alien.
>that entire quote is a really roundabout way of saying that Bay is fucking horrible at visual direction and scene framing
I ain't denying it.
Still, Olivia Wilde was awesomely cute in that movie.
Its so odd because his earlier work is rather subdued in comparison (for lack od a better term). Its just odd that he was capable of some measure of subtlety in The Rock...but goes full fucking autismo in Transformers and even with most of Pearl Harbor. His films have been a mess ever since
The Cygness design in "The Black Hole."
I get the impression george lucas consulted with psychologists and got the impression a clutter of random robots and lasers is like crack to children
Oblivion had the same thing going on. Same director, so it makes sense.
If you approach his films as a long form music video instead of expecting a narrative, try hold up.
More of a visual experience than a full cinematic experience, but good design and atmosphere.
Is this movie worth watching? I just heard someone tell me "clone the whole time twist" at end and it sounded retarded
That looks pretty nice. Was the movie shit?
Zeiram's design warranted a better movie, even if it was an overly derivitive concept Alien+Predator+Terminator+Outlaw
Yes. I enjoyed it.
The ships and the style inside the ships were fucking gorgeous in Jupiter Ascending
>dock inside a ship
>theres fucking chandeliers hanging above you
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>That "Art Deco meets late Baroque"-style
>all the rest of your post
>tipping intensifies
It's regarded as a hidden jewel around here. Not only the creatures but I also liked the mechanical designs and the moving city.
wtf are you even talking about? Tell me a better way to describe the style and I'll tip my fedora right back at you.
Fuck you. That movie was awesome.
Jupiter Ascending should have been an anime, it would have been much better received.
I agree that the design were interesting, but the movie is trash.
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GOAT satan ever committed to film.
John Carter>>>The Farts Awaken
Jurassic Park III has terrific props and the special effects still holds up. There's also this great moment in the movie where the Velociraptors' intelligence is showed in a non-conventional way. You know the scene where they set up a trap by leaving Mulder (I think that was his name) still alive beneath the tree to lure down the others? Well that plan failed but what stuck with me was what one of the raptors do after. It looks up at Hammond and the others, and snaps Mulders neck, then leaves. It doesn't kill him for food or something like that, it does it out of spite against the people that stole their eggs. I think that showing off a capacity for malice in the raptors was a brilliant way to show how smart they were.
Not a bad movie.
Shit. I mean Grant, not Hammond.
duh
It's not as if the Wachovskis are even trying to hide their influences.
But the problem is, with the amount of background they create, they'd need more than 2 hours to get it to make some sort of sense (without wasting half the running time in exposition, which is precisely what happened in Jupiter Ascending)
I'd contest that Jurassic Park III is a pretty good movie.
>and Nemo's car
I still want this thing. Nemo was pretty much the only character they didn't completely fuck up while adapting.
The creature design was fucking retarded, though. A fucking squid chestburster that grows into a giant octopus facehugger that then begets a particularly retarded-looking Xenomorph. Not to mention going from the Space Jockey's design to the translucent white big guys(4u).
This. Pretty much everything except the hybrid-people looked fucking great.
>see imperfect clone sister of yourself
>it asks you to kill it
>you take out the fucking flamethrower and burns it to death, instead of giving it a quick and merciful death using one of the numerous guns the group has
That scene fucked me up more than any of the scenes involving Xenomorphs.
Literally the only good thing about this movie besides Bob Odenkirk was character and set design.
aeon flux sets were pure sex
so were the costumes
so was the weird drug induced communication system
so was the plot
so was the acting
wait, what went wrong, anyway?
Turbonerds could make it through the exposition dialog.
The rest of the world couldn't.
>clutter
>a bunch of square formation robots getting shot down by white and red ships woth obvious smoke trails.
I'm not sure what people were expecting in a battle, I can only imagine saving private ryan gave you epilepsy on d-day.
I liked it. It's a decent movie.
I loved the bubbleship. It's like a space helicopter or something.
that film was kino though
Jupiter Ascending literally was a weird Young Adult Novel mixed with a bunch shoujo anime cliches.
I mean, a literal hunky dog guy wants to bang the shit out of you and go on a magical adventure across the universe where you will find that you are truly the heir to giant psace empire? Otome games have more subtlety
It was hella surprising of her to go back to being a toilet scrubber, though.
All the costumes in the Purge movies were incredible even though the movies sucked balls