Are there any actually good horror movies made in the last five or so years? I feel like the genre is dead

the problem with horror is the same as any other genre, the industry is mostly full of copycats so you get waves of mostly similar movies that you either ignore or are not very good until a studio takes a risk and starts a new fad

horror *is* about scaring you or disturbing you or leaving with a feeling of dread and if a horror movie fails to do this (all of them do) then it has failed as a horror movie. by being "fun" it's succeeded as just being a movie.

the only form where horror is captured correctly is literature.

damn right, user

I n-n-never get scared of movies

ptsss

Definitely agree with you on this - I watched Green Room a couple of nights ago and some of that film has seriously stuck to me. It's a very intense experience that manages to dip into both horror and thriller without any jarring transitions. I liked how the gore was handled too, initially all I heard about the film was "This is the goriest film you will see this year" so I was surprised to find that the gore was actually quite subdued and used as more of a tool to reinforce the threat and allow the tension to keep a vice grip on you. I suppose this is minor spoilers in a way but I liked how the injuries were all relatively small scale, especially in the age of post-Saw where everyone and their mother has seen all kinds of gonzo violence spanning from heads exploding to intestines falling out and everything in between; it was nice to take a step back and show some believable violence for once (and by "believable" I mean that you can put yourself into the characters shoes a lot easier when witnessing something like a stab wound or a dog bite, whereas it's a bit harder to sympathise when someone gets their eyeballs poked out or their arm completely torn off. and DEFINITELY spoilers here For example the instant that Anton Yelchin's character has his arm pulled through the door I wasn't too shook up, even though I was expecting him to come back without a hand, but the moment that he gets freed and you see those welted stab wounds and his hand hanging limp I instantly felt sick to my stomach; all I can think is that after being desensitised to onscreen violence for years it was a shock to my system to finally see some injuries that you can imagine yourself sustaining, and that is something that this movie really succeeds at (although personally I felt that it never really reached the level of that initial hand injury) and why I find it as more of a horror than a thriller.

Sorry for the long post.

Yeah? I haven't been scared by a movie since I was a child but I still love horror movies. If you want to feel afraid just go drive down your local Martin Luther King Jr Blvd.

>a flick that got so caught up in providing uninspired meta-commentary that it forgot it needed to deliver something different

something different like what? a good movie? it did that too.

>reddit the movie

>i have no opinions that are grounded in reality so i will just call this movie reddit
every time

>It follows
kys

Late Phases was really good and tense, but the wolf designs aren't so great
Found is a really small, disturbing movie that despite some dumb shit is really great
It's spinoff, Headless, is one of the most imaginative and gruesome movies I have ever seen, loved it

Those are the only recent horror movies I've seen that I would gladly rewatch

the only legit choice is a serbian movie, but it can be too heavy for normie tastes

Kill List is good but it isn't really a horror movie until the third act

Maybe you just haven't found a sub-genre that scares you like when you were a kid. Unfortunately it's difficult to go back to films that scared you at a younger age and still find that same terror, and I think that's just down to the fact that you grow out of fears and replace them with different ones as you become older and you experience more of life. For example I used to be terrified of films like Starship Troopers and Alien because as a child I found monsters to be scary, whereas now that I'm in my early twenties and looking at moving into my own place I've found that home invasion movies manage to scare me (whereas when I was younger I wasn't too fazed by the idea of someone breaking into your house).

Now that isn't to say that the films I found to be scary both then and now either are or aren't scary by definition - in fact that's why it's so difficult to recommend horror to people with the intention of scaring them, because fear is such an intimate concept and very personal to every person, and really depends on your insecurities and personal concerns that you may be experiencing at that current time. Another example of a film that I found to be terrifying was Antichrist - I had my first sexual partner at the time of watching that film and was feeling very insecure about my body and sex (a problem I still have), so to watch a movie containing those themes and that uses sex as a weapon left a lasting impression on me for about two weeks after where I was even more terrified of the idea of sex and allowing myself to become vulnerable in an intimate setting.

I'm not the guy you replied to and I know you already said that you love horror films, but I just wanted to add my thoughts to the conversation. I love it when I can watch a horror movie that scares me because it's a sensation that you don't often get as you grow older, and if I can recommend a new film to someone with similar tastes as me then I'll be glad that I can pass the experience on.

I love that film but I can totally understand why people dislike it, I really like the concept of a situation completely unraveling around you and finding yourself wrapped up in something you can't deal with.

I watched it initially without knowing that it was a horror, much like Bone Tomahawk, and I love those types of film and think that the horror becomes more effective because of how it comes unexpectedly. I find it really hard to recommend those movies to people though because I think that they're better when you don't know the genre, so I always just end up saying "Bone Tomahawk is a really gritty western, you probably won't have seen anythingquite like it" or "Kill List is a really interesting hitman movie where the main character gets in over his head". Really hard to explain either movie without just outright saying "it becomes a horror in its last act". The worst part too is that the people I recommend these films to love the horror genre but because I don't mention the H word I think they're less inclined to sit down and watch them.

Any of you guys see the Crazies remake? That was pretty good

that movie was incredibly boring apart from the shock-scenes

You grew up son. Don't expect more good horror movies in your life.

I thought it was much better than the original

I'm not really gonna read all that desu. I highly doubt that that there's a subgenre of horror films that I'm not familiar with. I just can't feel scared when I'm in my own apartment watching a nice movie even if it's Melancholie der Engel or whatever because I'm agoraphobic and anxious as fuck and get scared just going outside. Even the scariest most fucked up movie is a comfort.

I agree, that dead-ass stare they all have unsettled me and the harvester tease was great

Fair enough pal, cliffsnotes are basically that horror is subjective. I just gushed on a bit because I enjoy taking about horror movies

Yes didn't mean to come across as rude it's just everyone seems to question me when I say I like horror movies but don't find them scary, which to me seems perfectly sensible.

Nah you nailed it, especially regarding the arm injury. That shit fucked me up bad. Something about the believability of that.

Yeah I totally get you, I was the same way until I found movies like Antichrist and home invasion type stuff. They manage to scare me because they're more relevant to me currently. Unfortunately films that get under my skin are few and far between so all that's left is to appreciate most of them on a technical or story level.

the wailing. absolute kino

Those films all suck though.
The problem is people don't know how to craft films anymore. It's all a prolonged advertisement.

Yeah it really caught me off guard and kept me tense for the rest of the film, it really was an effective use of violence. That movie was like having a boulder crushing my chest for 90 minutes

That movie was garbage.

It started off as a comedy and then it tried to play it straight, only to fall back into the wacky comedy routine and then it had a non-ending.

>Antichrist
What I don't like about Lars and other high-minded capital-d Directors making "horror" movies is they always have to coat it in some intellectualizing bullshit about media and society or whatever. The really disturbing movies are made by nobodies with zero budget who are genuine weirdo fuck-ups. Von Trier is just a european boarding school kid

What you're saying is a large part of why modern horror is so bad. There's the genre schlock, which is LCD trash, only made because it's a quick buck, and then there's what you described - arthouse horror or hipster horror. The latter is very intellectual and focused on subverting horror tropes to make it into something it's not, high art. These films constantly reference other horror films but have nothing but disdain for the genre.

Not going to argue with you on that, Lars is (and probably always has been) very pretentious, and it's showing more and more with every movie he brings out. What I can't deny though is that the man knew how to make a visually beautiful film - both Antichrist and Melancholia are magnificent to watch.

I can't say much about the subtexts or social commentary in Antichrist because honestly I never looked for it, but I found the content of that movie to be particularly frightening, and I don't mean things like the penis mangling scene but rather ideas like using sex as a temporary fix for bigger problems, which I guess says more about me than the film, but then again that's why I find it to be a great horror movie - because it appeals to my personal insecurities.

It's been a while since I watched it last so I won't be able to debate it much past the surface level stuff that I remember offhand, but I found it to be an oppressive movie tonally and thematically, and while I know it's not for everyone and I can totally understand why people such as yourself see it as pretentious and arty for the sake of being arty, I really enjoy it.

Now as for the low budget horrors being better than big budget horrors - I really agree, especially in this age of sequels and remakes, the best, most effective movies are being made by people who don't have to answer to big studios and market research (but I suppose you can say that about 99% of movies nowadays). If you've got any recommendations I'd love to hear them, I'm building a big horror watchlist so any additions are really welcome.

Not really, at least to me. Horror is about the feeling of unease and terror of the characters in the story. You don't need to be scared yourself but just try to see if the horror within the movie works.
For instance, I was never really scared during The Thing, and not because I'm hardcore or anything but because the movie wasn't about that. I was on the edge of my seat and totally enganged in what was going on with the characters without feeling any dread myself.

> I was on the edge of my seat and totally enganged in what was going on with the characters without feeling any dread myself.
It's called suspense.

>recommendations

Who Can Kill a Child?
Beautiful Girl Hunter
Subconscious Cruelty
Your Vice is a Locked Room...
Cannibal Ferox
Last Orgy of the Third Reich
Tetsuo the Iron Man

Horror is bottom tier trash, how come anyone believes in paranormal is beyond me.

The only movie I've heard of from that list is Tetsuo, thanks for the recommendations!

No, these are all crap. Here's a based list with newer movies:
The VVitch
It Follows
Antichrist
The Strange Color of Your Body's Tears
You're Next
A Girl Walks Alone at Night

How can you possibly like Cannibal Ferox? It's everything Cannibal Holocaust was criticizing. Once CH came out this cheap piece of trash immediately tries to rip it off by doing all of hte deplorable things it did but without any depth or meaning. It is literally the only actual exploitation film I have ever seen, most others have something there but Ferox is so hollow and cruel it's disgusting. I'm not morally offended by the animal deaths but it is just such a lame, stupid cash in I can't stand it.

>How can you possibly like Cannibal Ferox? It's everything Cannibal Holocaust was criticizing.
Yeah, see, if you read my other post here [] you can see why I prefer Ferox to Holocaust. CH is of course a genre-defining classic but I could give a shit about it's moral "message" that was very obviously tacked on ex post facto by Deodato and the actors, and clearly none of them gave a shit about making some kind of intellectual point when they were actually making the movie. Regardless, Ferox is more disturbing to watch because it seems like the director really hates all the actors and everyone involved in the thing. It's a miserable film and that's why I like it.

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watch it or don't.

I'm going to check that other user's films out regardless because he took the time to give me some recommendations, but thanks for your input too; I've actually seen the majority of your list excluding The Strange Color and A Girl Walks Alone at Night (although I've heard of the latter before and I'm excited to check it out - thanks for reminding me) and really liked them, although I think I need to watch It Follows again because I don't think I fully appreciated it the first time Although holy shit did that door scene really get me.

Also on another note I watched Let the Right One In for the first time last night and I loved it. I'd heard that it was more of a romance than a horror (unlike the US remake, surprise, surprise) but holy shit I didn't expect such a bittersweet story, and all the child actors were absolutely solid.

I think you're wrong about CH's message, and you and I probably don't agree about what that message is but I don't want to get into that. I appreciate your explanation for Ferox, that's a good way to look at the film. I don't think I could ever actually like it the way you do, but I understand why people would. Thanks man

>you and I probably don't agree about what that message is
There's literally only two options. One is that he intended it to be about the Italian media's coverage of the Red Brigades, and therefore by extension it's about all media's portrayal of all political violence. The other option is that he just wanted to make a movie about cannibals, which Deodato himself said to Lloyd Kaufman. I personally think it's the latter scenario and that the "media exploitation of violence" thing is a literal meme created to make horror movies an intellectual exercise that was acceptable to art critics.

> last five years
Try fifteen.
And these anons pushing shit like it follows are morons.

True horror makes you actually give a shit about the characters by proper character development, it's not about "scary", it's about how unsettled it made you feel. You can relate to the characters in some way and actually feel like you are going through what they are experiencing in some way, it's called empathy. Movies like the exorcist and Blair witch (the old one) are excellent examples of this.

Most of you don't know what good horror is because you were not alive when it existed. Most of what you list is gore porn or cabin in the woods which isn't horror but a fun movie using horror subject matter, which is also a dieing genre.

Also most of you don't like good horror because you are literally autistic cunts that lack the ability for empathy.

I believe you and I have argued about this point before in a past thread, I don't really want to or have the time to discuss it again right now. Let's just agree that cannibals are cool

This
It's an adolescent genre. You can only appreciate it as a teenager. Ask your mom and dad they will tell you those movies are stupid.

>I believe you and I have argued about this point before in a past thread
I don't think so but my memory is a shit so maybe you're right. Anyway sorry to throw a fit, Cannibal Holocaust always triggers my autism.

Here's your (you) since you felt the need to respond to your own post.

Always love an opportunity to post this in horror threads

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Not that guy but I guess to me the genre schlock is what good horror is and what horror fans want to watch. The stuff that attempts to reach a wider audience by being 'above horror' is the stuff that critics will enjoy since they consider themselves to be 'above horror' but which a true genre fan will usually shy away from.

True, but unfortunately the schlock hasn't been any good for a long time, probably because true independent filmmaking has been scuffed out, and all anyone aspires to anymore is to make Hollywood level drivel.

Yeah I am that guy and shitty horror movies are only really really good in the 70s and 80s but by 2001 shitty horror movies are practically unwatchable.

How hhard is it to make a new iconic slasher villain like Freeddy and Michael and Jason and Ghostface and Chucky and Leatherhead?

Witch was fucking awful outside of the atmosphere though.

I was chatting with a friend about this recently, we were saying about how there aren't any iconic slashers anymore, in fact the closest thing I can think of in terms of iconic horror villains is Jigsaw, no one else comes to mind

I liked pic related
We're currently going thorugh a horror slump though, these usually happen every few years. This one should be done soon.
Honestly I would blame the producers, because they're the ones that push really gimmicky shit. Usually an indie or upstart film will start a trend and then the producers copy it several times, which leads to these mini crashes.

people who like the Witch are mentally retarded
its like the epitome of normie horror

Less money in slashers right now.

depends, I watch ~5.0/10 movies and sometimes they're better than expected. the critics who review them however are pretty terrible. I can't think of a single horror movie that has accrued an 8.5 average.
there's definitely a lot of schlock, but that describes practically any genre besides buddy comedy right now. i'm pretty that genre is only alive because of trailer trash.