>be literally called captain America
>Be an American soldier
>Be given super powers by American government
>Dress has to toe in stars and stripes
>"DURR HURR I DONT HAVE TO ANSWER TO ANYONE BRB CREATING AN INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT BY ATTACKING POLICE OFFICERS BELONGING TO A FELLOW NATO MEMBER"
is cap the stupidest avenger?
No but he's a moralfag.
Yes
He's literally a terrorist but of course Americans defend his actions.
jesus fuck I hate everything
You'd have to watch the movies to understand. Or even just reading the synopsis on Wikipedia would work.
Cap is literally retarded.
He's the old soldier. Things made sense to him when he fought a clearly evil enemy and America was the good guy. When he came to in the modern era, it dawned on him that things weren't that simple anymore and now most wars were fought for profit or interests other than defending freedom. He's become cynical to the idea of the government running everything because he's used to army people like Tommy Lee Jones telling him what to do and giving him a clear goal and now he's got suits who want him to fight shadow wars against terrorist cells.
He represents all the old people that think America was better "back then", rather than what it is now.
People on Cred Forums are anti social faggots who don't get the concept of true friendship. Before he got all that from America. He was a manlet faggot and Bucky always had his back and he would do anything to protect his friend who was a victim of ww2 and cold war experiments
>is cap the stupidest avenger?
Yes.
>is cap the stupidest avenger?
Well he's american
Jesus, I know the movie sucked by the ideas presented were pretty straight forward.
Cap was doing the wrong thing, but for the right reasons.
Tony was doing the right thing, but for the wrong reasons.
Hey, we're not all Trump voters. Some of us believe in climate change.
Would Cap vote for Trump?
lot of communists in this thread
Hi Shillary.
no, I'm sure he thinks Trump is a "bully" or some shit and doesn't realize the Democrats have destroyed America
He represents America, not the government.
This. These faggots are intentionally misinterpreting the point of the character.
Get the fuck out of here Cred Forumsshit
So his ideals give him the right to invade foreign countries and do whatever the fuck he wants because he knows better than everyone else?
Based Skull has been dropping truth bombs left and right.
>be America, the land of freedom
>time passed
>you're ready to sacrifice everything for freedom
>the government ask you to sacrifice freedom itself
when did the two become seperate?
>be the embodiment of America
>do pretty much whatever the fuck you want with wanton disregard for the consequences cause no one will really stop you and you'll fuck them up if they try
Seems about right. What's the issue OP?
1964. A democracy where non-Americans can vote is not American
Just how dumb are you, OP?
>Captain America, you need to submit to regulations and be governed by a collective that will determine when and where you operate
>oh btw the last time that happened was called SHIELD and they were secretly Nazis and almost killed a third of the U.S. population except you stopped them. We totally won't let that happen again tho
Believe in climate change
>shillary
More like common sensary
That does it, time to #KillmyselfforHydra!
>Be called Captain America
>Expect him to give up FREEDOM
u wot
This.
Plain and simple: He is an international superterrorist
>the 1940s
>clearly evil enemy existing
>wars werent fought for profit
>government wasnt running everything
>clear goals existing
>shadow wars not existing
Go back to school retard
Being truly American means being able to criticize and openly dissent against your government.
OP must think Steve Rogers is Captain China...
...where you aren't allowed to critically think and can't disagree with your superiors at all.
Why
>OP must think Steve Rogers is Captain China...
>...where you aren't allowed to critically think and can't disagree with your superiors at all.
Yup.
Being critical & fighting with your own government is as 'Merican as it gets.
>I want to live in a world where superpowered retards, who fight amongst each other all the time, can do whatever they wan, to whomever they want, whenever they want.
WEW LAD
Just how dumb are you?
>Your team literally murdered civilians. However, we recognize the good you are doing in the world, and because of that youve been granted amnesty for those dead people. So either you work for us or you retire. If you continue unsanctioned heroics, we will come for you.
>WAAAAAH MUH FREEDUMS STOP COMING AFTER MEEE TONY STOP BEING SO MEANNN
Did you miss the part where he and the other NuAvengers conducted an illegal operation on foreign soil and got a bunch of foreign civilians killed?
Yes, but only because the other option is corrupt
Cap is a libertarian, trump is a nationalist
>Being truly American means being able to criticize and openly dissent against your government.
look at our 'Merican niggers for example.
they love government handouts, yet hate the government. go figgure.
The government is representation of the people, not an authority figure to blindly follow because they're handing out money (which is ultimately given by the people and for the people).
>OP must think Steve Rogers is Captain China...
>...where you aren't allowed to critically think and can't disagree with your superiors at all.
Or Russia...
Captain Russia does whatever Lord Putin says.
>second issue of mini series ends with him assuming control of USSR
I admire the example, not so much the actual point you're making.
Sounds very American to me.
I guess you didn't read Red Son Superman. He took over the USSR and was overall based.
>Being critical & fighting with your own government is as 'Merican as it gets.
Who the fuck thinks a government tool would make a good superhero?
Isn't cap america the exact opposite of Super Man who's basically a government stooge?
if Steve doesn't wear this in Infinity War the Russos are confirmed hacks
Scenario:
You are walking down a dark alley. A thug scopes you out and starts following you. Batman is on the rooftops watching you both. Someone runs up behind you, pushes you down and takes your bag. You are disoriented and didnt see what hit you. The shadow turns a corner, Batman swoops down, kills the mugger, and gives your bag back.
Why didnt Batman warn you about the mugger before he hurt you?
Why didnt Batman stop the mugger before he could hurt you?
How do you know Batman and the mugger werent working together - the supposed 'suspect' is dead and you are not sure what hit you; everything happened so fast.
Where's the guarantee Batman didnt pull something out of your bag before giving it back?
The 'suspect' could have died fighting Batman to get your stuff back for you. Who's the 'hero'?
Bare minimum, Batman should be brought in for questioning. ma
Apply this on the macroscale to the Avengers invading a country and being close to mass death and destruction and you have a terrorist
>Super Man who's basically a government stooge
*cough* Man of Steel *cough*cough*
>Batman
>kills
Get outta here Zack
What about MoS? The situation there is more like the Avengers than Civil War. Superman didn't lead a black ops team into an African country.
The destruction in Metropolis is at least a defensive act.
The bad kryptonians attack and Superman assist the military in fighting back. Not quite the same as an illegal operation on foreign soil with civilian casualties.
I'm pretty sure they hinted at him being Nomad in Infinity War.
His team failed to save civilians. Scarlet Witch moved the bomb from point A where it would kill civilians and several superheroes to point B where there was a posibility of civilians being around. It is just the trolley problem but with themselves in the railway.
Yes.
>at best manslaughter =/= murder
No, he went through something called character development
In between 1930-1970
finding out that there was a nazi force festering inside the US government waiting to take over the world can give you trust issues
This kind of thinking created the Oklahoma bomber
Dissent in the face of tyranny is an act of patriotism.
he's a true american, not a decadent slimy peace of shit like contemporary america.
Are we ask forgetting the two illegal missions he performed on foreign soil one of which he attached the police force of a US ally and NATO member?
Muh freedom doesn't excuse him for being an idiot. If he wants to do be a free agent he should drop the "America" from his name.
>being a government lackey and not criticizing it when you know it's corrupt
Statist cucks need fuck off to reddit already.
he is american and to him he represents what's best about america, he can be a free agent and still call himself america.
He might as well rename himself "international incident man" then. His name is literately fucking "America".
yes, and he represents his america, and he fights america's enemies, both within and without. he is a true american.
Who do you think will get the blame wherever he goes on an escapade?
america will and there's nothing wrong with that because america literally created him.