Surprisingly only just got around to watching this a little while ago. I honestly feel its in the running for being the greatest film ever produced. I wish it were a little longer so it could spend more time near the end focusing on the sheriff, helping the ending to seem a little less abrupt, but that's about it in terms of criticism.
What are your thoughts on it? [spoilers]and what are some similar lesser known thrillers? Preferably with some depth and visceral violence, I've already seen Seven and Silence Of The Lambs, and all the other big ones.[/spoiler]
It's kino that's for sure, you should read the novel if you can stomach unfiltered uncut raw bookkino
Jack Adams
Idk about single greatest film but its really really fucking good and one of my favorite movies of all time
Evan Green
WRONG. Apocalypse Now is the best film ever created. no exceptions although still really a good movie.
Luke Jenkins
It's pretty good. The ending is better than the movie that comes before it
Lucas Reyes
>"I honestly feel its in the running for being the greatest film ever produced." >literally no score
there is no music in any scene the greatest film of all time is supposed to incorporate all the major art forms
Justin Nguyen
>cant even spoiler correctly
fuck off back to redit
Michael Jones
If your favorite movie doesn't include dance and some form of food that you can eat alongside it its garbage
Luke Walker
cormac mccarthy and music do not mix
Noah Wilson
Checked. Not yet, I like Friedkin though so I've been meaning to see it. I love McCarthy and one of my favorite aspects was how well the film captured his style. I wish there were more film adaptations of his work, but most filmmakers don't really seem to have the balls to step up to the plate, and most don't have the talent to capture the spirit of his novels. Would love to see Blood Meridian, or a better adaptation of The Road.
Isaac Morales
>going back to the scene of a shootout to give a dying drug runner a jug of tap water >not ditching the briefcase or at least splitting the money up and hiding some in another location >not checking to see if the briefcase was totally full of cash instead of only the top of the stacks
Moss was a dumbass.
John Lopez
So, was the wife dead?
Carson Parker
very good to great film, yeah just rewatched u seent 'a serious man?'
David Davis
>going back to the scene of a shootout to give a dying drug runner a jug of tap water Was meant to illustrate his goodness. >not ditching the briefcase or at least splitting the money up and hiding some in another location It wouldn't have really mattered. Once he touched that case his fate was pretty much sealed. In the book she gets killed for getting the coin toss wrong, in the movie she exercises free will, even though she's basically just choosing to be killed. Chigurh looks at his boots after he leaves the house, looking for blood most likely.
Dominic White
what kinda ruins the movie for me is how the first half feels natural and unpredictable and the second half is just full of annoying plot convenience. everyone knows where everyone is, the second someone finds out something its just about 10 seconds too late, and so on. But that psycho guy is certainly one of the best movie villains ever.
Adam Scott
It's a well shot man tearjerker for sure, but it makes no fucking sense that a squad would be sent with the lone mission of saving a farmboy private.
That opening in the graveyard though...
Adrian Lee
Better question did she shake his conviction? After she says the coin ain't got no say he seems flustered as he stutters his pre rehersed line about getting there the same way the coin did
Evan Morales
Forgot the pic, but you know what it is already
Luke Wright
I really would like to see what happened. She just straight up refused to play his game, and he clearly found that very frustrating.
Brandon Clark
But it does have music. You're just too engrossed in the moment to actually realise it's there, adding to the atmosphere or mood. I thought there was no music the first time I watched it as well.
Joshua Morris
He didn't have any issue gunning down random people without a coin toss throughout the rest of the film. I'd assume he thinks him and the coin are interchangeable, he basically believes he's fate and death itself maybe.
David Jones
Notice how he checks his boots after he leaves the house in that scene? Remember the last time he checked under his boots?
Jose Butler
The Road's adaptation was bretty gud but admittedly could've been better The problem with adapting his novels is that they sort of have to be kino or they'll fail since the source material is usually kino
Caleb Cruz
Was Chigurgh in the room that the sherriff checks near the end of the movie?
Oliver Ortiz
He kills when it's required by the situation. But killing the wife because he made a promise? That's just him trying to maintain his fucked up logic. And so the coin toss would be very important to him. If he had no problem killing her without a coin toss, he would've just do it without asking her to choose.
Bentley Carter
>this sure aint no country for old men
it was good up until that point
Jacob Turner
wake in fright feels similar
Levi Sanchez
Yeah and he found that ballin-ass MP-5
Joshua Edwards
"...and when he rode past I seen he was carryin' fire in a horn the way people used to do and I could see the horn from the light inside of it. About the color of the moon. And in the dream I knew that he was goin' on ahead and that he was fixin' to make a fire somewhere out there in all that dark and all that cold, and I knew that whenever I got there he would be there. Out there up ahead. Then I woke up. This is no country for old men."
Jordan Morales
>hired to stop chigurh >accomplishes nothing at all >doesn't put up a fight
honestly though there was nothing stopping that nigga
Alexander Peterson
This. He wanted to kill her to make good on his threat to Lou ellyn however as she pointed out it made no difference cause louellyn was dead so there wssnt much of a point. He realized that but at the same time couldnt value her opinion more than his own so he made them equal and wanted to leave it to the coin toss. Because she refused to play he deferrwd to his original intent on making good on the promise
Leo Morgan
Dear fuck, James Franco directed an adaptation of Child Of God? What the fuck did we do to deserve this?
Leo Perry
I think that's Woodmeister's point: he does nothing even though he appears to be operating on the same plane as Chigurh. Sort of ties into the whole "we're all just floating on the wind and sometimes shit just fucking happens and you die", same reason Chigurh gets into a terrible car crash later on.
Carter Gomez
My mom always had an interesting perspective...what if the sheriff and Chigurh were actually working together?
She was most likely wrong but it adds another layer of complexity that's fun to think about
Jeremiah Martin
That is no country for old men. The young In one another's arms, birds in the trees —Those dying generations—at their song, The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas, Fish, flesh, or fowl, commend all summer long Whatever is begotten, born, and dies. Caught in that sensual music all neglect Monuments of unageing intellect.
An aged man is but a paltry thing, A tattered coat upon a stick, unless Soul clap its hands and sing, and louder sing For every tatter in its mortal dress, Nor is there singing school but studying Monuments of its own magnificence; And therefore I have sailed the seas and come To the holy city of Byzantium.
O sages standing in God's holy fire As in the gold mosaic of a wall, Come from the holy fire, perne in a gyre, And be the singing-masters of my soul. Consume my heart away; sick with desire And fastened to a dying animal It knows not what it is; and gather me Into the artifice of eternity.
Once out of nature I shall never take My bodily form from any natural thing, But such a form as Grecian goldsmiths make Of hammered gold and gold enamelling To keep a drowsy Emperor awake; Or set upon a golden bough to sing To lords and ladies of Byzantium Of what is past, or passing, or to come
Gavin Johnson
I agree.
Adrian Moore
One of my favourite movies and I just finished reading the book today. It's a faithful adaptation and there's not much to dislike. If you liked the movie you should check out the book,friendo.
Jaxon Davis
Fuck you
Camden Hernandez
Easily my favorite film. It just does everything so well.
The best part is probably the casting. The Coen Brothers don't create West Texas through the scenery, but through its people.
Carson Williams
It's great but has a very weak ending
Cooper Moore
The Moss-Chigurh showdown-that-never-was is probably the biggest cinematic cocktease of all time.
Nathaniel Bell
pleb detected
Thomas Howard
I love No Country threads. One of the few universal Cred Forums favorites. It's masterful, yet it's easy to understand how and why it is. It taught me that theres a perfect way to make movies and a cheap way to make movies, and it curdled my appetite for cheap ones. Single handedly this movie turned 15 year old me into a patrician back in 2007
Hunter Miller
what was up with anton shooting that crow? i never really got the point of that scene.
Lucas Sullivan
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Hudson Bennett
music would have absolutely ruined this movie.
Isaiah Powell
It is a 10/10 film simply for Kelly Macdonald.
Jace Walker
He misses the bird and it flies away actually. Crows usually symbolize death. This is a few scenes away from Anton being wounded by Moss before escaping in the street shootout, and just before him missing Moss at the hotel. There's a lot of shit it could be linked to tbhf.
Alexander Bailey
Another good "visceral" thriller is Oldboy.
I think a lot of people miss the point of the movie. Ed Tom Bell is wrong. "What you got ain't nothin' new."
Evil men have been around since the dawn of time, but there will always be men to "carry the fire" and fight against it. But the good men get tired, "old," and have to pass the torch.
Adam Edwards
Yeah no.
>cop out 'it was all a dream' ending >protag dies off screen in a non event >typical 'villain gets away with it all' storyline >no soundtrack to add atmosphere to film
No idea how it garnished so much praise
Nicholas Diaz
Looked like a pigeon desu.
Aiden Wood
it was definitely a crow, it caws
Wyatt Adams
>>cop out 'it was all a dream' ending Are you retarded?
Andrew Roberts
>'it was all a dream' ending You're a fucking retard senpai. The events in the film were not a dream, he retired due to the brutal things he saw occur, Moss dies off camera because he was ultimately unimportant and his death was inevitable, his death is the point where the film switches perspective from Moss's extrospective materialist viewpoint, to the Sheriff's introspective viewpoint.
The villain gets away with it all because he is a representation of cold, unfeeling, natural forces.
Josiah Gutierrez
>last words of the movie are literally 'And then I woke up'
No, I think you are the retarded one.
Daniel Thompson
He was talking about his dream about him and his father.
I know you are supposed to pretend you enjoyed it but that doesn't change the fact that it was a cheap tryhard ending and there wasn't nearly enough character development for it to be delivered the way it was.
Michael Sanchez
jesus how awful
Matthew Miller
i feel sorry for you, like actually fucking sorry, what is wrong with you
Parker Carter
>greatest film ever >almost no score Not saying it didn't work for the movie because it did, but for the "greatest movie ever" I think music is a required aspect.
Ian Evans
it's definitely up there, OP
Jaxon Gonzalez
Anyone else burst into laughter at the handcuff strangling scene remembering that flash of it set to a chiptune?
Jack Roberts
I love No Country and I think you'll like this
Brandon Hall
Call it, friendo.
William Bailey
It's my favorite movie.
Aiden Mitchell
Yes. No. The car crash could have but I doubt it. Story is not about him anyway, so it doesn't matter. Story is about common persons hopelessness against such a test.
Dylan Williams
>garnished
Jordan Stewart
...
Jason Howard
Quads confirmed
Great movie
Julian Morgan
lmfao this is fucking horrible
Brandon Harris
What if I like horror over everything else?
Or good old fashioned romance?
There can't be a best film ever made, only best exmaples of specific genres
Henry Sullivan
>those CGI deer >that CGI crow >greatest film produced
There can be a film that's best in it's medium, and there surely is one, but I can't say which one it is because I'm not that experienced within this medium.
There are objective criterias that can be used to determin the best film: -writing -characterization -story telling -OST
Etc. There are more, but these are the most important ones and you surely get the picture by now.
Jack Butler
medium?
Luis Bennett
he was in the neighboring room, once again showing how much chance holds sway
Tyler Moore
I'm mad at him for suggesting that a score would add to the atmosphere, duh
Tyler Martin
"You're mothers dead Llewelyn" "Then ill tell her myself" How come Moss forgot about her mothers death?
Isaiah Barnes
HIS, fuck
Brody Baker
Your mom is retarded and didn't read the book or pay attention to the movie.
Benjamin Taylor
Im gay
Wyatt Russell
Whoa
Jacob Johnson
can you imagine
the entire movie would be ruined by music
Jack Rivera
In the book he wakes up from a dream where his mother is admonishing him and telling him to bring water to the dying man.
Isaac Martinez
i watched it again recently and was more impressed with the movie than I was the first time around
i still like twbb better tho because plainview reminds me of my dad :[
Christian Taylor
A girls asked me what one of my favourite movies is and I said No Country For Old Man.
She stopped at 20 minutes and said it was boring.
Should I drop her?
Brayden Hill
it was ok .i dont see whats so good about it
Adam Flores
>Should I drop her?
With one of those brainers
Leo Rogers
Thank you
Zachary Foster
Does anyone else find this movie really comfy? The lack of music in a bunch of scenes paired with Javier Bardem's gravelly ass voice actually kinda calms me down, despite what's happening
Cooper Hernandez
read the book
Camden Nelson
>The point of this movie was literally in the title