Le every man that hates gays is secretly gay himself propaganda

It's true. You're probably a closet nazi yourself.

I'm not a paedo, I love paedos!

I guess Lester is truly homophobic himself.

Hit a little close to home 'eh OP?

archive.4plebs.org/_/search/image/pi-VvOyO4IxfJG6gkXTtfw

It's basic human psychology.

People who seem to be fighting a "war against X" all the time are often fighting X internally as well as externally.

It's real though: huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/07/17/study-homophobia-homosexual_n_7816390.html

I'm comfortable with my sexuality so don't mind other men being gay, I can sit next to my girlfriend as she watches full blown gay porn and it's not gross at all, the videos are just non-sexual to me as a woman isn't involved.

Meanwhile when men uncomfortable with their sexuality see two men so much as kissing it really triggers them since they register it as sexual and don't like that feeling. They usually repress that side of themselves so much that they legit don't realize immediately why they are uncomfortable, so just say gays are disgusting to them, when it's more their own reaction they are disgusted by.

It's true. I'm probably a psychologist myself.

Well come on, he saw Kevin Spacey lifting in the window, what man could resist that?

How would you feel if the girl in your porn had a feminine and cute penis?

...

>I can sit next to my girlfriend as she watches full blown gay porn and it's not gross at all

Nigga, you gay. Man ass is gross.

Not him but only a faggot would say no to a cute, feminine penis.

OP is confirmed a faggot

>you are what you hate
>if you kill your enemies, they win
>if you are against x you fear x
>if you don't believe in x you are on the wrong side of history
>24 hrs news cycle
>nobody cares about last week's issue
>opinions made on headlines
We live in a Orwellian world regarding social issues, and in a Huxleyian world regarding political issues.

This is true

really? so if i have a nice neighborhood and suddenly we get new nigger neighbors who happen to be loud, prone to commit thief and act uncivil, then im all of that too because i hate them?

2000+ years of philosophy of the mind since the greeks, and thats all they can come up with?

wtf i love psychology now!

If this is the Brave New World, where're my orgies?

Every man who has acrophobia is secretly a skydiver himself.

Jews are usually secretly neo-nazis as well

>it's a Cred Forums pretends it's not full of homosexuals episode

Why are "white nationalists" so inclined towards homosexual relations?

Yes, there is a "niggery" part of yourself that you are repressing by acting out. Perhaps your low IQ.

Me on the right

>some gays live double lives and have an upstanding citizen facade

wow some cutting edge insights there.

he cant keep getting away with this

Obvious for us, but not for OP apparently.

based sam

god that tranny is insufferable
how can people say trannies are just men when you see them act like that

So the war on homophobia are done by homophobes?

Are you secretly Sam Hyde?

Sadly they took the worst bits of both 1984 and Brave New World and gave us none of the good stuff. Where is my victory gin dispenser I ask you? Not too mention my pneumatic squeeze.

People like you are a joke. Pseudo-psychology where liberals project big-time and assume things like "wow he has a big car he MUST BE COMPENSATING" instead of maybe a guy just likes big cars.

You may find this hard to grasp, but most people are NOT what they hate. There's no internal bullshit psychological struggle going on.

Why did marv turn into a skeleton?

You are confusing two separate mental phenomena. Acrophobes don't go around ranting about how mountains should be banned.

>user struggling with hisinternal bullshit

^ found the microphallus owner

How do they get it up during sex with their wife if the wife has had kids? Do they pretend its a dude?

Maybe they're bi.

I don't know user. I suppose they just suck it up and bang their wives once a week while looking forward to cruisin' for dudes at night during the weekends.

>tfw I was apparently muslim all along

Fun fact: If you're in this thread you're probably gay. The only exceptions are me.

>I'm minoring in Psychology I know what I'm talking about!
Like Jesus woman. Even your professor opens his class with
>This is not a hard science and is subject to constant change

>implying that isn't accurate
>implying that you aren't secretly a colossal faggot

You're gay, OP.

Is having sex with your clone gay or masturbation?

Masturbation.

gay sex

Wtf i hate clones now

Gay sex. The second your clone comes into existence his different perspective makes him another unique person.

...

this logic applies literally nowhere else in life, it makes no sense:

>"I fucking hate Pizza."
>"Then you must be a closeted pizza-lover!"

>"I fucking hate Christians."
>"Then you must be a closeted Christian!"

>"I fucking hate anime."
>"Then you must be a closeted weaboo!"

>"I fucking hate Republicans."
>"Then you must be a closeted Republican!"

As OP said, it's liberal propaganda. It only ever applies to liberal beliefs.

>You hate gays? You must be gay!
>You hate blacks? You must want to be black!

Saying stuff like that is acceptable, but if you ever said something like

>You hate whites? You must want to be white!

You would either be laughed at or vilified.

it applies any time there's a nascent fear of being whatever is hated.

A pizzaphobe isn't afraid of being a pizza.

The truth

This makes a lot of sense actually, it'd only logical to hate the competition.

We can share the lolis, user.

>have son/daughter that will do anything you say
>start thinking about kids sexually
>immediately think about your son/daughter

I mean, its kinda obvious, don't you think?

>register it as sexual

bruh
it is sexual
two men performing sex acts is a sexual scene

it makes straight men uncomfortable because in their day to day lives men are scarcely close enough to share a hug

you don't often see toddlers 69ing either

if you get uncomfortable watching two consenting toddlers diddle each other it doesn't mean that you secretly wish to hoard CP

but yeah, that's a possibility

Have you told your parents yet?

I always took him killing Spacey as "I hope no one knows I kissed a man" as opposed to "gay vengence."

I don't hate fags because they're gay.

I hate fags because their insufferable display of identity.

It's said because evidence supports it as being true. You can throw out as many shitty analogies as you want, but it doesn't change the facts.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

>its kinda obvious, don't you think?

What is obvious, user ?

they ment ur dad is a fag & sucks off dudes in the mall bathroom

hows it feel bro?

The best insult faggots can think of is implying that you are also a faggot.

Really makes you think.

Reality does not work that way. No one is born a pizza, being a pizza is a lifestyle choice.

Being gay, you don't have a choice in that, you're literally born that way.

Now, if you actually applied real logic to something you can't help, like, say, "I fucking hate Canadians," then yes, you probably secretly wish you were Canadian.

That wanting to fuck your own children makes you angry so you lash out on pedos. I think that's what he was trying to say

>your dad will never be proudly bi
>your dad is a closet homo and thats why he beat you

It's a cynical way of silencing dissent, it's about all that regressive have left at the moment. Everything is about avoiding a battle of ideas at all costs.

>Being gay, you don't have a choice in that, you're literally born that way.

Citation fucking needed.

It doesn't actually have anything to do with belief whatsoever. Nothing you said is even related to the issue, it's just typical Cred Forums tard exemplification of their SJW obsession with feelings. It really is remarkable how Cred Forums shitposters and SJWs think EXACTLY the same. The liberals you're referring to have NOTHING to do with this psychological phenomenon. It has nothing to do with politics at all. Kill yourself.

Most raging homophobes are secretly gay. Otherwise it wouldn't bother them so much.

You could cite common sense. If you have any.

Why does this always come up? What does it fucking matter? Even if people are choosing to be gay, they get to do that in a free society and you can't stop them no matter how much it makes your stomach turn. Whether it's a choice or a genetic thing makes absolutely no difference in terms of how the issue should be handled so it's just a bullshit argument.

You do realize that there are people who are gay who do not speak with a lisp and wear woman's clothing, right?

>it makes straight men uncomfortable because in their day to day lives men are scarcely close enough to share a hug

only the closeted gay ones

I think honestly most people on Cred Forums are so jarringly unintelligent and so prone to feelings-based thinking that they hold on to the belief that gay people somehow choose to be that way. It seems impossible that anyone is that stupid, but I find their perspective is easier to accept if you think of them as closer to chimps than humans. They are just incapable of acknowledging any reality that doesn't confirm their biases or preconceptions, including people not literally electing to be gay using a GUI or something, like in one of their RPGs where they play as women because "it's gay to look at a man's ass all day!"

Hey, it's this stupid argument again. If you hate pizza it's because you tried it and didn't like it. So if you hate being gay, well...

Because most anti-gay politicians and ministers have had gay sex scandals.

This is the longest I've seen this thread up before it gets deleted.

>most people on Cred Forums

you haven't been on this website long enough if you think every dumb, offensive opinion comes from Cred Forums

desu you haven't even browsed Cred Forums long enough

that one time you ctrl+f'd the word "nigger" through the catalog doesn't count

>elementary school didnt consist of erotic play and we still live in this nightmare

No one accuses people who hate blacks of wanting to be black. People accuse those who dress like black youths, listen to rap, and deliberately try to talk like them of trying to be black. They're also called Wiggers.

The reason why people who are homophobic are accused of being gay is because an ultra-conservative religious public figure who hates the gays turns out to be secretly banging male escorts like every fucking week.

You can try to dismantle logic with strawman fallacies like or you can accept what is before your eyes. Up to you.

>strawman

seriously get the fuck out

>mfw i forgot to write "no homo" at the end of my iron-clad argument

those are strawmen you amateur

There are plenty of dumb, offensive opinions going around, but it's easy to identify someone from Cred Forums. Backwards beliefs, paranoia bordering on mental illness, frequent use of the word "faggot", extremely stubborn and they always post that picture of the Jew wringing his hands which is a dead giveaway.

I used to browse Cred Forums a lot, you're by far the dumbest people I've ever seen in my life, anywhere in any context. All of you will believe anything as long as it confirms your biases, literally anything. The gullibility is off the charts. I've barely clicked on it recently but I've noticed it somehow became even more insufferable because now it's filled with soclever fat wastes putting parentheses around everything as a new and improved way so clever of circle jerking propaganda and conditioning each other.

No.

Found the closeted Cred Forumsfag

It wouldn't have made much of a difference.

If anything it would have been yet another indicator.

>Meme propaganda
Talk to anyone you know that hates gays. That's all they will talk about most of the time, then get really graphic about some buttfucking jokes and makes you really question how often they think about this shit

Exactly. If a person obsesses about gay sex constantly, there's an obvious reason for it.

Not every man that hates gays.

Just the vast majority.

LGBTIDF get out

>Devy

made me smile

Case in point. Spotted the Cred Forums poster.

Op is right. I hate this film as it made me, a strong alt-right, hetro hero go out and suck cock. I cannot cum without a man unloading into the back of my throat. This degenerate lefty liberal jewish propaganda did this to me now all I do is crave cock, day and night. I am married and my wife is beginning to wonder where I go and night. Fuck all you nigger loving jew faggots for turning me into such a cock hungry bitch.

Occam's razor. You have some unresolved issues to deal with. Go somewhere else and do that.

It wasn't the film.

>>>/reddit/

Maybe they're bi curious

>Hate cancer for taking my two year old cat away from me.

Oh shit, does that mean....?

everyone knows the alt right are filled with literal faggots

>Make a ridiculous claim
>Fail to provide any evidence
>Instead just Ad Hom and obsess about Cred Forums

AND into the trash it goes.

>You could cite common sense.

Common sense says that babies aren't born gay, not the other way around.

If you're a tumblrturd pride-fag, I suggest you don't try to cite "common sense", as most common sense goes against your transparent political agenda.

>all these faggots ITT obsessing over "/pol"

So are they secretly Cred Forumstards themselves?

>archive.4plebs.org/_/search/image/pi-VvOyO4IxfJG6gkXTtfw

strawman fallacy

Everything you just said is the opposite of the truth. Have a nice day now.

Most of them, yeah.

that's why they push the meme of sexual orientation is a choice. Because they had to make a choice themselves and they assume straight people did so as well.

>Common sense says that babies aren't born gay, not the other way around

According to whom? The church? Homosexuality is a form of population control. That's why most first born children are straight. You just think homosex is a choice because you think it's gross, and I have news for you, no one cares that you think it's gross. Also, all sex is slimey, sweaty, and involves unwashed genitals, so I'm pretty sure it's all kinda gross to some extent.

>One homophobe is gay
>Le every man meme

What did OP mean by this?

>le community college entry level english meme

You have a reason to hate cancer. Because it took something from you.

You have no reason to hate gays. If a gay person steals your car you blame the person and not the gayness. If your wife leaves you for a lesbian lover, you blame them for their dishonesty, if any, or you consider that your relationship perhaps had prior issues that led to this, etc. If you have something personal towards gayness, it's... well, it's because you have something personal towards gayness. It's not that hard to figure out.

>I don't understand what a straman fallacy is so I'll have to resort to ad hominem

My guess is you're projecting with that community college shit, newfriend.

What if you don't hate them you're just disgusted by them? Same way paedophiles, murderers, rapists disgust you.

>being smug and self-assured while being incredibly dumb

Absolutely the worst type of person

So you're disgusted by them. Do you also insert how disgusted you are by them into every conversation, and make your disgust of them your entire political platform, your life's work? Is it disgust, or is it an obsession? If it's an obsession, I have news for you.

How do you calmly, politely communicate with Cred Forums posters who are so dumb they can't make even simple logical inferences on their own while also being arrogant and sure that they're right? Have you not been here long? I'm at the point where I really wish the worst on them and won't even do them the courtesy of responding to them like they're people.

No it's not an obsession. I don't mention it to anyone unless it's already the topic. If I see homosexuals in public I ignore them. Is it still projection, closeted whatever?

Paedophiles, murderers, and rapists take victims. Gay people have sex with other consenting gay people. Your disgust is not warranted, so clearly there is another reason for it. Unless you're an idiot. Is that what you're trying to say to me, that you're not closeted, but rather just, simply an idiot?

It is true. And news flash - If you are scared to catch the gays by consuming gay media you are in fact gay already. Straight people don't have a thought like that.

Not warranted? I've been disgusted by them as long as I remember. So it's the fault of some outside thing I don't remember or what?

So is every nazi member secretly a jew? Or secretly love jews?

Call me crazy, but I genuinely enjoy calmly and reasonably explaining to them why they're wrong and then sitting back and watching them throw temper tantrums.

>raddit boogeyman

>Your disgust is not warranted
Cockroaches don't hurt anyone and I find them disgusting, same with homosexuals.

The phenomenon does not suggest that it is the exclusive motivation behind hatred. I find it hilarious how incapable Cred Forums cunts are of understanding simple concepts.

Sticking your penis into another man's asshole isn't disgusting to you? Maybe you're the closet faggot.

There is no logical reason for you to feel the way you feel, so there must be an irrational, emotional one. I'm not saying I'm sure you're secretly gay, I'm just saying that your issue has to do with you and no one else.

It makes sense regarding homosexuality. I've noticed what a lot of homophobic people hate the most is anything that might suggest that they themselves are homosexual.

It doesn't make sense for every homophobic person though and it certainly doesn't make sense for every thing that people happen to be hateful of

Sticking your penis into a woman's asshole is somehow more sanitary?

Maybe it's their association with STDs.

There is no phenomenon retard. This entire concept is stupid. People hate other people and love themselves. If they are something, such as a muslim, or a homo, they are 99.9% chance not going to dislike muslims or homos like themselves. This sounds like something a kid would say.

Even gay dudes are disgusted by poop and poop related things m8

Sexual attraction is something that overcomes natural disgust at bodily secretions and such

When you're fucking man ass you're thinking about psychosexual things like dominance and validation and the pleasurable sensations on your dick

How can you not grasp the inherent ugliness in the act of penetrating a man?

Right. Straight people never get those.

>Every guy that hates gays is a gay himself
>Every guy that hates pedos is a pedo himself
>Every guy that hates trans is trans himself
>Every guy that hates women is a woman himself
>Every man that hates muslims is a muslim himself
>Every Woman that hates an ugly man is an ugly man herself
>Every dog that hates a cat is a cat himself
>Every Hillary that hates a Pepe is a Pepe herself
>Every Gargamel that hates a smurf is a smurf himself
>Every jew that hates a jew is a je himself
>Every cia that hates a bane is a big guy for you

prove me wrong, homophobes.

Just calling your personal prejudices "inherent" isn't going to convince anybody who isn't retarded. If you're not retarded then you won't even be able to convince yourself

Because I'm not secretly into dudes.

But it's a subset of straight people that are typically associated with STDs. For homosexuals it's the whole. At least here in media, online etc it's always homosexuals blamed for their spread.

>ad hominem
THERE HE GOES AGAIN
YOU LITERALLY CAN MAKE THIS SHIT UP

How can you say there is no logical reason for the way we feel? How is anything about gay sex logical. It defeats the whole evolutionary purpose of sex.

Read the thread, you stupid asshole.

Why are you homophobes acting like this is some weird new meme?

Being overly quick to denounce something has always, for all of human history, been an indicator of guiltiness

It's no surprise that people have noticed it applies to homophobes

Tha justifies their own actions you moron. That does not justify why its not objectively disgusting.

Liberals really are this dumb

>WHY DOES HE KEEP USING WORDS I DON'T LIKE

the funny thing is, its liberal cucks like you that are getting laid the least - from men or women.

Right. Because straight people never have sex for reasons other than reproduction.

Are you not disgusted by the yeast colonies and urine particles in women's vaginas? Objectively it's just as disgusting as an anus, you're feelings are just overcome by desire, which is natural

nice try but i see through your ad hominem

>Every poster that hates a shitposter is a shitposter himself

At least we actually enjoy it when we lay a woman, rather than pretending to because it's what Uncle Sam would want.

So if I'm quick to denounce pedophilia, I'm a pedophile? The only way for me not to be a pedophile, is to say that pedophiles are good?

That is actually true...

They are inherent in most straight men. Thats why calling somebody a faggot is such a common insult, and why men will look down on other men if they are acting feminine.

Homosexuality is an affront to nature, science and God. Thats not a personal prejudice. Its a fact.

Is it bad to hate gays for no other reason than "God said so"? I mean, he's the best moral guide we can have right?

>at least other people who agree with me are getting laid
>that makes me less sad that I'm not

Why do people post in threads without at least skimming them first

did you just say lay a woman. Hahaha, said nobody who has actually ever fucked.

Let me break it down for you son, women are not attracted to these liberal weak views. They make you look like a fucking pussy. Women dont want another pussy in their lives

You are very bad at this.

Best comment in this thread.

He is also imaginary.

He really isn't.

>yet another ad hominem

are you even trying at this point?

Please do tell me about how you are such an expert in what impresses a woman, you stud you. I'm sure you're posting on Cred Forums because you're a nonstop sex machine.

So the only options in your view are to say either pedophilia is good or to denounce it quickly whenever you get the chance?

Imagine you are arrested and they haven't told you what for and you just blurt out how much you hate pedophilia and pedophiles and would never do anything pedophilic

That would signal to any sane person that you're a pedophile. There's nothing wrong with denouncing pedophilia when the subject comes up, but in general there's no reason to denounce pedophilia, everybody assumes that everybody hates pedophilia, the fact that you are bringing it up suggests a strange fixation on the topic, one explanation of that would be that you are a pedophile

Do you know a better one?
Whether you believe in one or not, Judeo-Christian believes are the exact foundation and basis of all current moral guidelines in the western world

Whew this thread is fucking AIDS.

At least I was trying at some point, lazy troll.

yeah, and that's one of the western world's biggest problems

>
Compared to you, I've no doubt that is true. Especially if you were previously unaware of what I said in that comment. Mate, that shit is common knowledge.

Has that literally ever happened in real life? Sounds like kiddie psychology. Are racists secretly niggerlovers?

Every man that hates pedos is secretly a pedo himself

so you would allow thievery, murder, rape, general anarchy?

Do you even think before you speak?

I'd be all for that sort of thing if faggots didn't break the one basic fucking rule of society every single second of their moronic lives: treat others how you wish to be treated.

Until I find a single Christfag that follows this creedo I can't trust a single one of the fuckers. At least Atheists are honest about not having any higher reason to act like shitheads.

Are people that hate homophobes secretly homophobes themselves?

Reminder that there's nothing wrong with being a murderer

If what you said is common knowledge then you have in no way indicated you are an expert. It also isn't.

>all women hate sensitivity
>all women hate liberals
>all women are the same

I guarantee you have never said anything that has impressed a woman who wasn't a slutbag with an IQ below 80. Perhaps the reason why you're allegedly so prolific is because you have no standards.

You don't speak for science or nature, and God doesn't exist

In reality, homosexuality is normal in social mammals

men will look down on feminine-acting men because men expect toughness from each other, this is natural because we depend on each other for survival in our natural state

Homosexuality =\= femininity

>Has that literally ever happened in real life?

lol

advocate.com/politics/politicians/2015/05/29/16-antigay-leaders-exposed-gay-or-bi

it seems like once or twice a year an anti-gay gop congressman is caught soliciting a male prostitute or something

>God doesn't exist
>tips fedora

thievery, murder, and rape still happen all the time in the western world

do you even think before you speak?

Yes actually, in several high profile cases, usually involving a religious leader

Agreed. Anyone who hates murderers is a murderer themselves.

Read the thread or don't post

literally six posts above yours

Well there was that story following the RNC about several politicians getting male escorts. Also the one guy who got an escort for his wife, while he sat in the corner and watch.
Female escorts were actually pissy because they got fewer clients than usual.

>How can you not grasp the inherent ugliness in the act of penetrating a man?

when you aren't gay, it isn't something you really spend much time thinking about.

weird huh?

U mad?

>God doesn't exist
If you want to know why society has gone to shit, look no further, Atheism.
These Godless fucks are the kind of people supporting this degeneracy.

see

Thousands of years of torture, rape, murder, and genocide in the name of your imaginary friend would indicate otherwise

That's why Catholic Priests rape children

You're trying too hard dude.
When a topic is brought up in as conversation you think about it.
It obviously crossed your mind, if not ever before, it did just then because it was brought up.
That is unless you're so afraid of being gay that you actively suppress every though of it even when you're in a conversation about it.

>society has gone to shit

Has it?

There are some societal problems that are distinctly modern like the rate of single parenthood and student debt but for the most part quality of life and crime rates and just about every objective measure of societal health is better now than in the past

Kinda, yeah. But I'll get over it. I appreciate your concern though.

Fornication is seen as completely natural by most people.

Catholic priests rape children because they hate rape. Because as we all know, a guy who hates rapists is a rapist himself.

>>When a topic is brought up in as conversation you think about it.

when someone brings up gay people, i don't think about fucking other men, sorry mate.

>It obviously crossed your mind

sure, a few times. since i'm not attracted to men, it does nothing for me so i don't spend much time thinking about it, just like i don't spend much time thinking about golfing because i'm not interested in golf.

Myby they're bike curious?

U mad

>If you hate gays, you're secretly gay yourself
>If you love gays, you're openely gay yourself
>Everybody is gay

Fornication has always been seen as completely natural for all of human history

Historical moralfags have always seen this as evidence of mankind's inherent sinfulness or weakness

Catholic priests are certainly by reputation outspoken against homosexuality, and rape, and paedophilia more than most. And they do all three at once. So clearly saying you're against something doesn't necessarily mean shit. In fact, if it's all you ever talk about, it may even be an indication of the opposite. This is basic, common sense, and just because it can't be applied to every sort of hatred that exists in the world doesn't mean it's still obvious as shit you fucking retard.

I didnt say they hate it. They, in fact, like it. I said they werent sexually attracted to it.

And I doubt you'll believe me, but I've slept with girls from approximately 22+ different countries. Approximately because alot of those were one night stands and my memory was hazy

It does nothing for you because you think it's gross as fuck, but you're too afraid to admit that because that would mean you're a homophobe and thus a homosexual which you don't what to be but you don't want others to know that.
PC life is suffering.

The purpose of sex is to reproduce - scientifically, naturally and religiously. Homosexually is not for this purpose. HOW ELSE DO YOU WANT ME TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU. HOW THICK ARE YOU??

>Fornication has always been seen as completely natural for all of human history
Simply not true.

>admitting to losing your cool on a guyanese television forum

so much for that english degree

What's natural is having as much sex as possible so that you can reproduce as much as you can before your genitals stop working. What's unnatural is weird puritanical views that are always, always, ALWAYS hypocritical.

Yes, and they are considered wrong, and morally corrupt. Thats what you were arguing against
Oh I get it, you are thinking before you speak, its just your thought processes arent that great

Read a thread before you post in it to avoid looking like a complete retard

If you hate a nigger, you're a nigger yourself

SEE DON'T YOU GET IT HEAVILY OPINIONATED BLACK SCIENCE MAN

>cumming in man ass is the same as procreating

You're right, I don't believe you. In fact I am now laughing at you very hard.

M8 even in Christian Europe the Pope had to make infanticide laws because there were hundreds if not thousands of aborted fetuses in Rome's Tiber river.

You don't get that problem if every couple is faithful.

i don't think it's gross, i'm just not turned on by it.

hope that helps!

>acting like procreation is the only or even primary reason people have sex
>but I'm the "thick" one

Anyway why do you think other social mammals exhibit homosexual behavior? According to you that's totally unnatural, so what happened? Did Satan send his evil homosex demons to train the animals to be gay?

>thievery murder and rape are considered wrong because of religion

are you fucking brain dead

>let's hold ourselves to the same standards as animals

this is your brain on sodomy

No, I'm arguing against the preposterously stupid idea that the morally corrupt way they are viewed has anything to do with Judeo-Christian belief systems. Most people naturally think these things are wrong and it's belief systems that enable them to justify it to themselves and do it anyway. Which is why there was tons of rape and murder everywhere in every time period during which the church had strong political influence and societal control.

You were the one who brought up science and nature, I'm just refuting the idea that homosexuality is unnatural

What the hell are you even talking about you idiot? What I said had nothing to do with gay sex.

I didn't say people didn't fornicate in the past, I'm saying it wasn't seen as something normal to casually talk about.

Right, it was seen as something you don't talk about while doing constantly. Which is totally healthy and morally upstanding.

It hurts doesnt it. Being schooled so obviously. The fact is, the more I prove somebody's opinions or believes are wrong, the more they become steadfast, in spite of an overwhelming fact or statement they cant argue against because they know its true.

Here's the thing: Alan Ball is a pretty mediocre writer.

He's really hit and miss. Just look at Six Feet Under. Had great moments and some pretty terrible moments. Like what the fuck were they even thinking moments. Whole chunks of the show. Same thing with True Blood.

It's hamfisted, but Alan Ball feels pretty comfortable hamming shit up.

Not everyone has sex to reproduce, Christfag.

Do you only have sex once a year with your wife to get her pregnant?

>implying Roman soldiers didn't trade stories and jokes about the whores they fucked recently

Nothing has changed in this regard m8, it's not like people talk about fornicating in front of their grandparents either, there's always been a time and place for it and that's among young adults generally of the same gender

If anything what you're noticing is the Internet and anonymity causing the openness of discourse to increase

'losing your control' and being mildly irritated at the insanely dense nature of the people who post here are not the same thing. You know, not everyone who has a degree in something is against you. Sometimes smart people can help you with things, like being less stupid. If you let them. Have a nice day.

Its not the only reason people do it. But people do alot of shit that is disgusting, or at the very least know they shouldnt be doing.

I'm not saying why people do it, I'm arguing its purpose. If you read the thread it was a response to somebody claiming that being disgusted by faggots is unnatural. I just proved the exact opposite.

Here's a little tip. If you have to announce to everyone that you won an argument, chances are that you didn't.

EVERYBODY
IS
GAY

wait, are you actually arguing that our entire moral foundations werent/arent based on religion?

Stop shouting liberals every time someone refutes your point

ok have fun at tumblr

Read a thread before you post in it to avoid looking like a complete retard. Twice.

here's a test

blindfold someone and let them guess who sucked their dick or if he fucked a man's ass or a woman's ass.

Most people naturally believe them today because of the foundations that were created by religions 1000s of years ago. Seriously?! Did you go to public school or something? Get an education son

>plug-in meme response

alright pack it up, we're done here

The foundational explanation for morals is found in evolutionary psychology. If you actually believe that people only started thinking murder, rape, and thievery were wrong and punishable offenses during the tiny percentage of human history that religion has been around, then you are legitimately brain dead.

WTF? How is it natural if it completely defeats its purpose - the very reason it exists (if you believe in evolution that is)

That's easy to guess, men are better at sucking dick than women.

Yes, because that is idiotic and overwhelmingly demonstrably false.

Things don't have inherent "purpose", people have goals and the "purpose" of anything they do is to achieve one or more goals, these goals can be explicit or subconscious too

If you don't want to have children then the purpose of sex for you isn't procreation, if you are trying to have kids then it IS the purpose

Being disgusted by homosexuals is partly natural, partly unnatural. The natural part is to be disgusted by abnormality and nonconforming behavior. The unnatural part is all the extra baggage you carry about god and procreation and man ass

His point was that non-sentient animals display homosexual behavior, therefore disproving the claim that it's unnatural. He dumbed down the issue to be digestible for a legitimate retard and you still didn't get it. Cred Forums is a fucking marvel.

>Did you go to public school or something?

Were you homeschooled in your conservative aunt's basement?

Nah

The reason judeochristian morals are as they are is because it is natural for humans to develop beliefs along those lines, and not the other way around

It's not christian influence that makes people fear and hate murder and rape, it's the natural distaste for murder and rape and thievery that caused judeochristian morals to be as they are

homosexuals = pedophiles there is no beating around the bush with that.

Pedophiles molest children who then molest other children and they grow up and do the same thing.

you can't prove me wrong.

Maybe you needed Sunday church to explain to you that it isn't nice to rape people but I certainly didn't.

The ignorance and brainwashing oozing from this post is disturbing. Imagine growing up in a religious household with abusive, ignorant parents and being denied access to unbiased, accurate information.

wew you should get off before you get an ulcer

People naturally believe it because they have empathy and can on some level imagine how horrible it would be if something like that happened to them or someone they cared about. If anything, organized religion has made it more murky over the generations by implying that it's okay to do certain bad things to certain types of people if God says so. Conditional morality has more holes in it than general morality.

>You just think homosex is a choice because you think it's gross, and I have news for you, no one cares that you think it's gross.

He said, after spending the entire thread whining about people thinking it's gross.

>I can pinpoint the emotional state of strangers through their text alone

You should really use your powers to fight crime

What about pedophiles that are into little girls rather than little boys?

>it's unnatural to be disgusted by the antithesis of life

youtube.com/watch?v=6M6samPEMpM

>According to whom?
Basic science.

>Homosexuality is a form of population control.
A completely unproven and unsubstantiated theory that idiots hand-wave to make their piss-poor ideas sound more legitimate and "scientific".

>antithesis of life

That would be death, and most people are indeed disgusted by it

>durr if I see two viewpoints being represented in a thread there must be two people saying all the things

seriously don't go out in a rain storm because you might drown

>getting this angry over being BTFO

Shameful.

I'm not arguing why everybody has sex. I'm arguing its scientific purpose, moron

>Pedophiles molest children who then molest other children and they grow up and do the same thing.

Yes, they molest children. Which has nothing to do with adult men having consensual sex, you idiot.

Holy shit, I can TASTE the salt from here.

How fucking mad are you right now that there are people on the Internet that aren't mindless PC-drone liberals like you?

on contraire mon frere fag and fag enablers ARE criminals

Just to you. You're the only one who doesnt get it. I have to ram it home.

Are you suggesting you won, in spite all of these overwhelming comments you cant seem to argue

Scientifically speaking, procreation is definitely NOT the only purpose of sex, read a fuggin book m8

there's no better time with bros than some vidya and discussing who'll get raped the hardest

>the antithesis of life

you are a very strange lad

>consensual sex with a ignorant child

look at this pedophile trying to defend himself.

Source

you cannot make colon babies buddy

SO MUCH FOR THAT COLLEGE DEGREE

>make up a concept that makes no sense and is inherently logically flawed
>"Durrrrr, why u have such hard time understanding it? u stupid?"

Maybe make your retarded platitudes make more sense next time.

>A completely unproven and unsubstantiated theory that idiots hand-wave to make their piss-poor ideas sound more legitimate and "scientific".

No, that's what this is:
>Basic science.

I don't care, I just wish they could argue about something without resorting to memespeak and insults.

only for you

>fag enablers ARE criminals

not according to the people who decide what crimes are

>There is no logical reason for you to feel the way you feel

Yes there is.

Humans are naturally disgusted by the unnatural.

From homosexuality to pedophilia to shit-eating, these induce natural feelings of disgust.

The only way to combat this is through indoctrination.

I don't think we even had what qualifies as an 'argument'. You claimed to be some don juan expert in women, I laughed at you for being hilariously full of shit, and you didn't know when to quit.

I wish you can argue without using platitudes

it's literally mental masturbation

A Reddit-tier theory isn't "basic science".

It is blatant political hand-waving.

Not everyone is as dumb as Cred Forums posters, so people don't communicate in such a way that spells out every tiny logical inference for the listener or reader. People like you are genuinely some of the dumbest people who have ever lived in any civilization, so you can't expect to be catered to. With the sheer level of stupidity required to believe that anyone ever thinks this phenomenon is the explanation for all hatred, to cater to you would mean literally nothing would ever get accomplished. This is the equivalent of having to be explained why 1+1=2, and then need a fresh explanation for why 1+2=3, and so on and so forth into infinity. That is how strikingly unintelligent you and everyone else on Cred Forums is.

non-sentient animals haha

animals also get diseases and have abnormally. so your argument is that because animals do it is must be natural. What feel natural to the beholder, and what is natural are very different. Homosexuality has no purpose scientifically. How then is it natural?

Also what with Cred Forums? You are aware you are in the minority of men with believes that sticking your cock into another mans asshole is the right thing to do

So gay people are the same as children? I'd love to see you try to substantiate that

>salt

Thanks for playing.

I can see you'd rather sling insults than explain things logically. That makes you just as bad as the people you are complaining about.
Congratulations.

>Reddit-tier theory
I know that sounds cool to you, but it doesn't mean anything.

wow there's countries outside the west you uneducated dummy

*sigh* closed minded people like you bring the rest of us down

people have called other people on this website "faggots" for about as long as it has existed newfag

please go back to tumblr

No, but your forebears did. You know the ones that formed our moral guidelines.
You do realize they've been around more than just a couple years?!

Straight couples have anal sex too. Women have buttholes. They also have mouth sex, armpit sex, foot sex, all kinds of sex that have nothing to do with making babies. Just because you're a special needs child doesn't mean you need to have something against college degrees.

>this one faggot literally foaming at the mouth over "Cred Forums", typing out paragraph-length insults

Holy shit you can smell the mad in the air.

iirc there were several characters in this flick who were the exact opposite of their everyday attitude. it's quite common in psychology and it has been used since forever in storytelling

it's only logically flawed if you apply a strawman fallacy that is also logically flawed

>durr one size fits all policy
>durr all social phenomenons must be universal across all demographics to be real

>Also the one guy who got an escort for his wife, while he sat in the corner and watch.
KEK
U
C
K

source?

you keep bring up Cred Forums and how much you hate them

are you sure youre not a Cred Forums poster yourself?

What are you on about? Religious households?!

natural

ˈnatʃ(ə)r(ə)l/

adjective

1.

existing in or derived from nature; not made or caused by humankind.

"Feels natural" is not a thing. Facts are not feelings.

It isn't political hand-waving at all, it's objective scientific inquiry. You claiming it's political is textbook psychological projection, as you are a mentally ill, dull, unintelligent failure in every conceivable way who examines everything through the lens of a political agenda. Someone honestly attempting to understand the cause of homosexuality with no political bias would very obviously entertain the scientific possibility that it is determined before birth, the exact opposite of what you're suggesting.

The only certainty to every scientific or really just sentient mind on the planet is that people don't choose their sexuality. Literally only alt right religious Cred Forums types are unironically dumb enough to think that's the case because of the aforementioned obsession with politics. Like tumblr hambeasts, everyone on Cred Forums believes reality is dictated by their feelings, which leads to some of the dumbest things ever said by a human being, many of which are in this thread.

Being disgusted by something is natural. Reacting to that disgust by turning into a man baby is a choice.

Those beliefs were tought down through generation upon generation over millenia. Initially brought together and considered the standard through religon

This, it's not so complicated you dummies

OP is on to something, this thread has 300 replies.

literally free (You)'s

I think I might steal this thread.

holy moly you must be baiting at this point

Always thought he just tried to understand his son.

The subject of conversation was western culture, dipshit. Stop moving goalposts.

its somewhat true. most people don't give a fuck about gays because they are a very small % of the world and unless you live in a city were they are deliberately consecrated then you are unlikely to ever see one. while its somewhat true, I think its overplayed to sell the narrative

kek. yeah its kind of the implication, also the implication is that only thing stopping gays are other gays

I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying that people from Cred Forums literally can't make a single post without using the word 'faggot' at least once. The issue is frequency. 'Faggot' is their favorite word to use in the entire lexicon.

>read a fuggin book m8
sounds like a well read individual. Hows bedford you poorfag

Scientifically speaking, prorecreation is the only purpose of sex. And thats what we're arguing,you goose

When you post this, you're not having the "gotcha!" moment you think you're having, instead you're just hilariously illustrating that you're a bottom tier IQ who isn't capable of grasping a very simple concept or of making the very simple logical inferences which would allow you to understand how it's distinct from the horrible analogies you're making.

>people who were dead long before I was ever born taught me about morality

this is what christfags actually believe

>dipshit

mind your ad hominems

I didnt claim that at all. I spouted some basic common sense, facts pretty much every teenage boy learned at some point before he becomes an adult.

Are you saying straight couples don't do those things? Because it's a fact that completely invalidates the stupid thing you said. Meme images and salt don't negate that.

Not having a gotcha moment? Pardon me but all this salt makes me think otherwise.

THIS IDIOT STILL ISNT GETTING IT.

how many times do we have to explain? We are not arguing why people have sex or that gay sex exists.

See, the difference is that I make a point and then call you a dipshit. You come to a thread just to reply with one word insults, which means you are either incapable of or unwilling to use your brain and should probably kill yourself.

that's not true though

This. Everything is fine and should be left alone. People need to fucking CHILL with their standards in fact fuck standards im just gon lowr myself to most base n simpl being wo care in worl ;)

>I've slept with girls from 20 different countries and most were one night stands

Sure you didn't.

Everybody thinks that. You think you are just born with an absolute knowledge of right and wrong?

You're arguing that gay sex is wrong because it doesn't produce babies when there are all sorts of types of straight sex - that plenty of straight couples engage in exclusively - that don't produce babies, I'm not sure why you aren't getting this

No, I'm saying no one can be this thick and therefore must be baiting.

We tip our hats to basic facts now do we?

The state of this fucking website. Accept no bullshit, except if it seems socially uncool not accept it and then worry about being compared to random hat wearers.

You are the definition of pathetic. And everyone in my family is a Christfag I both love and respect.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but pedophilia has EVERYTHING to do with homosexuals.
abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3794616.htm

Defend this.

gay sex is sodomy in principle
straight couples committing sodomy is incidental

I think I was born with an inherent understanding of it based on natural human empathy, yes. The idea that we had to have it explained to us by religion of all things, when history has demonstrated the exact opposite is true, is preposterous. We don't have modern society because of organized religion, we have modern society in spite of it, and it's still causing all sorts of problems to this day.

Without even attempting to dispute the completely true and factual thing I said that dismantles your entire point. Okay then.

What if the gays adopt and raise an asian kid?
Doesn't turn that wrong into a right?

Confirmation bias is fun.

so you are saying that gays and gays alone are the reason for all the homophobia and that REAL straight men are innocent. It's almost like gay men are the ones responsible for all anti gay laws.

>it's okay for straight couples to engage in sodomy for some reason

K

oh like these fine folks

No i was talking about raising a child, not raping a child.

Can you answer my question?

Now let's talk about all the ministers, priests, conservative politicians, media personalities, and church goers who also participated in underground paedophile rings and gay escort services

>there are no hetero pedophiles
really made me think

Publicly outspoken figures against homosexuality constantly have gay sex scandals. That's what we meant.

No thats my point. You finally are getting it. Thats exactly why most people are disgusted by it. Heterosexual anal sex is disgusting too. Sure it feels great, but have you even ever done it. Its fucking disgusting. The fact is, this is ALL gays do. They have no other purpose. They are evolutionary duds.

>Pederasts are always gay
really made me think

all of whom engage in homosexual activities, ie a homosexual

now lets talk about faggotry forced onto children via public schools

Uptrumped

You are wrong. This is why as everybody develops, theyrealized what is and what is not socially acceptable. They learn it through their surroundings, observations, conversations and even trial and error.

no you dense dummy

sodomy is wrong

gay sex can only be sodomy because it cannot create life

straight couples can engaging in sodomy but are able to produce a child

in principle, straight couples can create life while homosexuals cannot

What is that supposed to mean?
Yeah, gay pedophiles are always gay.

Lets talk about all the athiests who did it too. Its not mutually exclusive, its just more widely publicized when relgious members do it.

Having sex while being barren is wrong?

What you're not getting is that there are plenty of straight couples who engage in non-reproductive forms of sex for their entire lives because they don't like or want kids and that this invalidates your point completely, ESPECIALLY if you think being gay is also a choice.

>the only ones engaging in depraved acts are all homosexuals

really DOES make you think

>u mad
Wew

So you're admitting that people who are outspoken against homosexual activities are sometimes homosexuals. That's a start at least.

Not in principle if a straight couple does not have the means to make a baby

for a person who loves shouting ad hominems you sure have poor reading comprehension

>having sex with a child is ok if it's a girl
Is it what homophobes really think?

mind your strawmans bro

>descend from a chain of lifeforms pairing off m+f for well over 80,000 generations
>fuck it IT ENDS HERE GIBSMEDAT CAWK nom

>ad hominem
You don't know what that word means.

>in principle
That doesn't make sense. Gays are depraved because they have sex while knowing they can't produce a child. If you have sex with a barren women knowing it'll produce no offspring, how is it better.

>They learn it through their surroundings, observations, conversations and even trial and error

I agree with this. I'm just saying it has nothing to do with religion. Also I think the understanding of most basics, like "hurting people is bad because it hurts", is pretty inherent just because of the natural capacity for things like empathy. Unless something like serious mental illness intervenes of course.

Explain how is it a strawman. This is the argument used.

>that massive strawman

It's just very funny to me how you don't see (or refuse to see) how many holes that argument has.

See

This guy is so mad that I used the terms "strawman" and "ad hominem" earlier that he now assumes everyone who disagrees with him is me and can't talk about anything else. It's kind of sad, really.

just the way you like it huh ;)

No, I'd rather you saw the error of your ways and grew to be a more rational person. Or, you know, just went away.

Women have more holes than men.

>no one must ever find out that I don't know what a strawman fallacy is

Lots of closet homos in this thread

If you get emotionally agitated thinking about other dudes having buttsex, you're definitely gay, no matter how negatively you interpret those emotions

>I use a logic to demonstrate an argument
>using my logic, someone demonstrate by the absurd that is has undefendable conclusions
>"Ha! this is isn't what I'm defending, this is a STRAWMAN"

I think it is fair to say that not all homophobes are closet gays because psychological phenomenons are never that absolute or simple. I'm sure some people who hate gays do so for other weird personal reasons or because they were told to do so by some manipulative force that has a strong hold on them, like religion. But it's definitely also true that a huge, vast amount of homophobic people cry themselves to sleep because they want to fuck men, and the people in this thread having their jimmies rustled by the very idea that there's a link I think are extremely likely to have unresolved sexual hangups...

I'm fairly sure he thinks you're me. I was talking about strawmans earlier and he can't fucking get over it for some reason. Don't worry about it bro.

are you a cuck if you watch your wife bang other women