Be keepers of peace and justice within a democracy

All religions are just as evil and just as bullshit. Look at all the Japanese suicide bombers following Zen Buddism in world war II, you literally can't say that it's any different from the Crusades, it's all a load of horseshit and it tears us apart as people.

More like it forbids law enforcement and military from using emotion in their work, which is flawed but not unrealistic. Anakin would have been executed or exiled much sooner in a real society structured like this.

Do we ever actually see children taken from their families? How do we know they aren't all orphans or poorfaggots who chose the Jedi for a better lifestyle?

And in the Empire you might have efficient administration but the constant fear of being summarily executed because rebels might live within 1000 miles of your house doesn't sound healthy.

Crusades weren't Christian. Those guys went to war in spite of their Christianity, not because of it. Well the guys in charge anyway. The average footslogging nobodies might have believed in what they were doing but they also believed that Jews caused rats to materialize in their barns out of thin air so you can't really blame them for anything they did.

Remember when certain Republicans wanted to remove Obama from office because they were "certain" he was a muslim?
Yeah, that

The question is whether or not it is illegal to be a Sith in the Republic. Not to mention the Jedi are clearly the agressors in this and one should question if they are not just as dangerous as the Sith.

Wait but didn't sheev and anakin conspire to murder a bunch of kids and other people?

Think that makes them the bad guys

jedi and sith are not a religion they are organisations

>Crusades weren't Christian. Those guys went to war in spite of their Christianity, not because of it. Well the guys in charge anyway. The average footslogging nobodies might have believed in what they were doing but they also believed that Jews caused rats to materialize in their barns out of thin air so you can't really blame them for anything they did.
What a load of horse shit, read a history book or watch Kingdom of Heaven. The crusades were EXCLUSIVELY catholic. the only thing you can't blame them for is their hatred of the jews which aren't even human enough to be a religion, they are literally just a sub culture mascarading as religion.

That was extreme nationalism, not zen Buddism. Buddism is not the majority religion in Japan.
To Buddists, there's no god, just striving to be the best person you can and doing good deeds.
Youre thinking of political religion, which is actually bad.

They went to arrest Palpatine because he orchestrated a war that killed trillions of people. Wouldn't have mattered if he was Sith or not.

You're kidding, right? Anakin can't get his fuck on with Natalie Portman, but Yoda can command an army by reading tea leaves.

Anakin never would have imploded like that if he had been properly nurtured. If his mother had been bought out of slavery and he'd been allowed to have a relationship with her. If he'd been allowed to have an open relationship with Padme. The Jedi wanted him to be a robot that could be controlled, and that's why it all goes to shit when he finally reached his breaking point.

Really makes you think doesn`t it

>That was extreme nationalism, not zen Buddism. Buddism is not the majority religion in Japan.
>To Buddists, there's no god, just striving to be the best person you can and doing good deeds.
>Youre thinking of political religion, which is actually bad.
>implying all religion isn't just a political scam
got news for you friend...

>read a history book or watch Kingdom of Heaven
I audibly kekd at this

STAR WARS THREAD FOR STAR WARS DISCUSSION

Are you sure?

>To Buddists, there's no god, just striving to be the best person you can and doing good deeds
this isn't true at all

You should all read a history book, the crusades were a defensive war to strike back at Islamic conquest of Europe and the holy land. The Pope didn't sit around thinking that maybe it'd be funsies to go to war with Muslims they had been conquering parts of Europe and doing unspeakable acts of barbarity to Christians.

It's a children's movies. When it works for the plot the Jedi are wise and prepared. When it works for the plot they can also be brash and reactionary.

jokes on (You)

The Sith had a history of trying to take over the galaxy, spread suffering and destroy the Jedi. A Sith Lord had also orchestrated the entire clone wars.

This, besides most Japanese during WWII were Shinto followers rather than Buddhists.

the fact that he puts his own personal desires before his duties makes him unqualified for such an exclusive role. The way George gets around it is by making Jedi so rare that they're desperate, which is why there's a conflict at all.

>the jokes on you that I'm uninformed yet are happy to spout my incorrect opinions on matter of historical fact
Ya got me.

This.

Religion is complicated in Japan. It's not nearly as black and white as the monotheistic religions of the western world. Lots and lots of people are both Buddhist and Shinto.

Trump asking Obama to produce a birth certificate isn't the same as marching into the oval office with an assault rifle and trying to arrest him.

Mace and co couldn't wait to pounce on Sheev despite having zero proof of what Anakin was telling them. And even if what Anakin was telling them was true, how is following a different space religion grounds for impeachment? With the trade war over he was going to be asked to surrender his emergency power anyway, so maybe wait until he refuses to do so before storming into his office with your laser swords blaring.

>the Crusades weren't Christian
>the Crusades were bad
Well you guys have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Most successful ones are sure, but saying they all are is ridiculous.
anyone can make a religion, and they only spread in the marketplace of ideas because they
A: Make people feel good about their shitty lives
And
B: Have enough followers or powerful enough followers to convince someone else to follow it
In the west the church has been the center of social life for the vast majority of people for thousands of years, and the religion part of it is secondary to the social and political parts.
If religion didn't exist people would and do just fill that void with something equally as asinine to get away from their lives.
Blaming the Church for the worlds problems is just a small part of the same type of people that take advantage of the masses in the exact same way.

>the Jedi are clearly the agressors in this and one should question if they are not just as dangerous as the Sith
Considering there were two Sith versus dozens/hundreds of Jedi, I would say the Jedi are far more dangerous. A rag tag rebellion was able to end the Sith. No way in hell a rebellion would have stood a chance against the Jedi order.

You're hugely ignorant if you think it was a defensive war against the Caliphate, which had controlled the Levant for over 300 years. The only reason the Cusaders started was against the Seljuk Turks who deposed of the Caliphate which was actually fine with Christians and in fact encouraged them to pilgrimage and live in the Holy Land because it meant good tourist and tax revenue

>You're hugely ignorant if you think it was a defensive war against the Caliphate
?

This, plus like what, 15% of all powerful Jedi are somewhat corrupt and/or fall to the dark side? What reason is there so deal with that risk?
The only good the Jedi served was to basically be a galactic black ops team. If they kept it to that it would work fine.

*tips fedora*

mudslime detected

mudshit !

Is the US the bad guys for murdering innocent women and children while trying to take out the people who attacked them and their way of life? Sheev and Anakin only killed Jedi, who at that point would just keep coming for them. No civilians were killed in order 66.

They had zero proof of this. It was a matter to bring up with the senate.

>different religion than you
by the jedi doctrine his religion is evil. also he allegedly orchestrated the whole war for personal gain.
>democracy
>charge into his office with weapons drawn and attempt to arrest him
They clearly think that the people are sheep and would not punish sheev.
>But then to be fair to the jedi Sheev's 'religion' is about as dangerous as ten islams put together.
true but we have seen worse, in rl

spain seemed to have a lot of issues

>black people
you almost had me going for a second
>God
They don't believe in god
it was made by non humans for other non humans

It depends on how you define 'issue'

Question for nerds who know this stuff.
Will there be repercussions for Cool Hand Luke about Jabba's death? Surely the fat worm had friends.

>Buddism
Buddhists can and have been violent. they have 2 hells + levels and gods for everything including war

The Hutt Empire isn't what it was and was weak during the Empire Era.

There was some cool stories after that but honestly post ROTJ look became Anakin reborn, he went around beating the shit out of everyone.

Which is why Old eufags were pissed. Luke went Godmode for about 30+ years.

>bought out of slavery and he'd been allowed to have a relationship with her
she should have been freed bot forbidden from having contact.He would start having wordy loyalty to things other than the order.

I also forgot during the Vong Invasion, The Hutt Empire lost most of its income since people had to go without the spice trade so they were doubly weakened as history went on.

only star wars and empire are worth shit. the rest is pure puke

>They clearly think that the people are sheep and would not punish sheev.
You can't be pro-democracy only to take matters into your own hands when you fear the vote won't align with your own point of view.

gold bikini and battle between luke and vader in jedi was pure kino tho, rest of that flick was ass tho

>Do we ever actually see children taken from their families?
yes many times. one mom even sued
>executed because rebels might live within 1000 miles of your house doesn't sound healthy.
it was not fun in the soviet union
>Crusades weren't Christian
yes they were and they were right thing to do. it was a counter attack for all the Muslim attacks and coastal raids. half the holy cities of Christendom fell to Muslims and some of them were not profitable to retake so you can't say it was all for money.

Crusadefags BTFO

>The question is whether or not it is illegal to be a Sith in the Republic.
as far as I know its not, maybe it was written into the law after Ulic Qel-Droma tried to fuck shit up but I don't recall ever seeing anything that would support that in the old republic or in the old old republic. They are attacking him for being sith but they can easily cover it with all the crimes he did but yes they have no proof and have not informed anyone else

>Siege during the 1200s
>nothing about the attacks on Vienna in 1500s
>nothing about hungary and romania killing kebab fucking shits

>pagans
you mean heretics? They fucking deserved it.

wut?
minority report?

In the old lore it became illegal to be sith.

The Bane books go into that.

bane was the beginning of palpatine's line.

Did Bane start a fire?

BANE?

>He would start having wordy loyalty to things other than the order.
Forbidding such a thing sounds pretty fucking evil to me.

>Seljuk Turks
are you retarded? what religion do you think Seljuk Turks were?
>fact encouraged them to pilgrimage and live in the Holy Land because it meant good tourist and tax revenue
"tourist" what century do you think that was?They did not encourage shit, pilgrims often got attacked and harassed on their way to the holy land, in fact that was how knights templar started (as protectors for pilgrimages)
>tax revenue
yeah they were under crushing taxes because they were Christians, in fact there was infidel tax.

that is my point

Pretty typical of democracy desu

you might enjoy this
youtube.com/watch?v=Djo_91jN3Pk

not likely. There maybe something about hutt pride in general but they don't give a shit about each other.Jabba got in power by crushing his aunt to death but maybe they will have some sub plot about Jabba's son

>>are told the elected official follows a different religion than you

That's not what the problem was, though. He was the Sith Lord the Jedi had been looking for, the one who was leading the Separatists.

>The question is whether or not it is illegal to be a Sith in the Republic.

No it isn't. The question is whether or not it is illegal to take control of the Republic then secretly lead a war against the Republic at the same time ,which is what Palpatine/Sidious was doing.

its a necessary element in any brotherhood/organization that wants to limit individuality.The more individual politics/loyalty/etc someone has then more likely you are to have internal conflict. its anti liberal thinking but you don't get to rule the galaxy by being liberal

Their evidence of his wrongdoings being the testimony of Anakin, who they knew to be emotionally disturbed.
I think Windu was trying to take over.

That bikini is overrated as shit. its not even hot, I get it was shocking in the pre internet days but come on

I read bane. while I do recall the jedi resolving to hunt down sith no matter where they maybe, I don't recall the republic making any proclamations

>the one who was leading the Separatists
The hooded man?
>I think Windu was trying to take over.
he kind of is, his pov makes it clear that he feels things would have gone better under him

The conversation in the first book/cantina when republic soldiers were trying to recruit bane to their side.

"Illegal organization"

they mention how sith were banned under republic.

Bane then mocks them when they call sith blood thirsty killers, how dare they kill people trying to kill them etc.

14 year old contrarian coming through!

shut the fuck up faggot git out

starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-Sith_bill

also if you want to go down a long dark hole, try this link.

Disliking the prequels is not being a contrarian.

>He would start having wordy loyalty to things other than the order.

But that's not the reason, though. The fear is that Jedi who have attachments to anything, the order included, are more likely to get over-emotional and turn to the dark side, which happened so frequently before the rule was implemented that there were like 3 or 4 "Jedi Civil Wars".

I see the point, it would be like having enemy army start a club in your country. Why is not Mandarin culture banned?

(You)

>tfw the racewar is imminent! feelsgoodman kicking the mudslimes out again, might fuck some slavwomen aswell!

>Their evidence of his wrongdoings being the testimony of Anakin, who they knew to be emotionally disturbed.

The Jedi had evidence that Sidious existed, and that he was somebody with a significant amount of influence in the Republic. They'd been searchung for him for years and had tracked him down to this building on Coruscant which housed a lot of high-level politicians. Also, Palpatine pulled a lightsaber on them, which kind of proves it.

>I think Windu was trying to take over.

I doubt it, not really his character (inb4 what character).

Because Chinese people aren't our enemy and haven't been trying to murder us for thousands of years.

good people cant do bad things you idiot

So were the Jedi the official police of the place?

>Trump asking Obama to produce a birth certificate
No one mentioned that. This is a strawman argument
Several republicans claimed Obama was a muslim and shouldn't be allowed to be president, despite having 0 proof of this claim and despite living in a country founded on the practice of freedom of religion

He meant Mandalorians.

Umm the people in the old lore were all but wiped out and more or less became an idea so it is hard to wipe out something wide spread and doesn't attach to a bloodline or planet. Their homeworld, clan structure, names..armor, weapons all changed but it was more about a code of ethics, not unlike sith or jedi.

Just one, Muslim invaders.

It was mostly because of State Shinto. Not Buddhism (And most Japanese Buddhists aren't Zen) as the Greater Japanese Empire was basically officially a Shinto country. And the motivations were not really religious if you break it down.

They weren't doing it to spread the ideas of Shintoism, or to kill those who didn't believe in Shintoism. They were doing it to at that point protect their country in a war they were losing. And were just told by their superiors that they'd have a special place in Yasukuni, even though in original Shintoism everyone goes to Yomi (hell) even dead gods.

Someone of a particular religion doing something bad != someone doing something bad for their religion.

Some Christian guy who kills his gf while drunk isn't the same as a dude from ISIS killing someone.

>Bane was the beginning of Palpatine's life
>Palpatine created Vader, the masketta man
>Vader dies when mask is pulled off
>MFW

Because sheev started a galactic civil war so he could dissolve the ruling government you fucking moron. There's more context

Tell me about Sheev. Why does he wear the hood?

>not unlike sith or jedi.
That is my point. forgot that peaceful Mandalorian talk, its mostly known as a war ideology that knows no race limits.Why would you let whole worlds be into a war doctrine if you want peace. why would you allow killiks? while not as big of an issue, sexism on naboo and various other "culture" things add to chaos (like hapes consortiums piracy)
>hard to wipe out
still better to have a law.

Good topic followed by dumb religious, islamic bs.

Fuck off.

Why would someone bisect a man before throwing him down a shaft?

to kill him dead, fact that he lived shows that he should have been quadrisected

I bet that was extremely painful.

because at no time in history was the entire galaxy ruled by one entity and that is how very different ideas existed. Chiss Empire, Hapes, Imperial Remnant, Republic etc.

At every point in starwars history, independent planets existed in various parts of the galaxy. Some were only nominally in the republic like tattooine.

Certain planets had dual citizenship of sorts. Corellian worlds were basically like that, they were in republic at certain points and also independent at others.

Imperial ideology survived in Chiss Empire long after it died elsewhere, republic falls apart at other times and Empire rises again. Except with the Jedi backing them instead of the sith.

I'm not even sure what you would call the Vong government, theocracy? hivemind.

On a whim Korriban was renamed to something else completely.

Starwars has such a long and detailed history it would be hard to explain in detail but starwars never had just one idea about how society should run.

At any given time their was 10 different government types running in the same galaxy at the same time.

Individual worlds had different governments, some had rules that only kept them in republic partially.

It's kind of strange how the galaxy hasn't had a period of anarchy/warring states anywhere the EU. There's always just one or two entities that control practically the entire galaxy with a bunch of really small entities on their borders (Republic-Hutts, Empire-Hutts-Chiss, New Republic-Empire-Hutts, Vong-New Republic-Empire, etc.).

would a single practitioner be consider and organization? While its true that an individual business owner can "be" a company(company is its own thing but that is not the point) he would still have to be registered as an organization or at least have his organization(facebook group) reviewed by the court to see if has elements of the criminal organization or if the similarities are cosmetic

How many authorities you saw on planets in the republic rule time?
0.
But in empire time it was super safe. You can see stormtroopers on every street/

The only reason the Jedi had any inkling of this is because of what Dooku told Obi-Wan, and that easily could have been a lie. That's certainly what Obi thought at the time. The Jedi stormed into Sheev's office and attempted to arrest him with zero proof of anything. If they asked him to rescind his emergency power and he refused they'd have a leg to stand on, but they had no business handling the situation in the manner they did.

anarchy and libertarianism are retard, even the insect people know that Im sure there were some stories that had luke crushing on a tribalistic world that is near anarchy

>Crusades weren't Christian. Those guys went to war in spite of their Christianity
Filthy islamic trash have sarcophagus of your god. Live on your holy land.
Jesus said - beat the shit out of anybody who denies me,
"Against" christianity.

Ok m8.

Independent actors were the buffer, dangerous trade routes and hyperspace lanes effectively cut the galaxy up so that you had to go around portions of space seen as dangerous or like the core where dead stars, black holes and all sorts of fun existed.

so it created buffers where everyone had their own little slice of the pie, corporate sector, as an example.

I mean in examples we see of government's taking actions into their own 'hands' they're met with overwhelming force. Just look at the GA and Legacy era in general. A few planets try to shirk the rules in post-war era and they get the worst sith lord in living memory showing up on their door.

With holonet the way it is setup, state actors tend to get ganged up on when they try to make unilateral moves.

Corellia got slapped around, centerpoint got disabled, Jedi got beaten up by Luke's upstart nephew.

Go back in time, whenever a group of planets in far past tried to make moves, another group would come out of nowhere and hit them.

Individual planets couldn't maintain a large enough defense force to really make noise honestly, it is indefensible planet problem. Superior numbers are only effective counter against pirates and the like.

>Normans would have been peaceful if it wasn't for Christianity.
Normans were literally Vikings. They took up Christianity for political reasons, but its not like they changed what they had been doing for hundreds of years. Its just now the Pope said they could get into heaven for it.

They were attacking the Byzantines too, even before the official religious split, and a bunch of other Christians because that's just what they did.

I don't think you get what I mean by anarchy. I'm talking about anarchy on the galactic level, where there are hundreds or even thousands of independent planets. Just like the world today exists in a state of anarchy with hundreds of different countries.

>Individual planets couldn't maintain a large enough defense force to really make noise honestly, it is indefensible planet problem. Superior numbers are only effective counter against pirates and the like.
or they just end up fighting each other for generations while the galaxy passes them by

The peak of the Crusades involved the "Christian" soldiers of Western Europe attacking Constantinople, the world's largest Christian city. They then went on to massacre thousands of Christians, raped nuns, burned churches, stole holy artifacts, and looted anything valuable they could find.

They considered it to be an individual and an organization at the same time. Before the Bane Era, the dark side equivilant of a civil war happened, fallen jedi break off, try to kill their former comrades, lose, find a world, conquer it, intermingle/bloodlines(not canon anymore but still) then you get a group of people that effectively become the counter to the republic in the outer rim.

Their idea set is the basis of the organization and as long as it exists, they try to kill off the Jedi whom are seen at times as inseparable from the Republic.

The first, three wars, First jedi civil war, First Sith/Republic war, hyperspace war, Wars of Revans Era, Brotherhood of Darkness era wars/Battle of Ruusan, all of these conflicts are lead by Sith.

Under those circumstances, I would wholesale outlaw the idea, organization, individuals. All of it. Package deal.

seems quite odd to expand to numerous far away places

>Just like the world today exists in a state of anarchy with hundreds of different countries.
I don't think you know what anarchy means

True, they're interplanetary conflicts that span entire generations.

Yeah, why would people willingly leave their home country and settle in far away places? Seems really silly...

The Normans weren't the only, nor even the primary ethnicity of the crusaders you retard. They were mostly Franks, then followed by Germans.

Yeah, the 4th Crusade was a mess pushed on by a greedy Doge and the poor logistical planning of the Crusade's leaders. Doesn't change the fact that the Crusades to the Near East were, at least initially, purely motivated by religious fervour. It would sometimes cost a knight 4-5 times his yearly salary to make the journey, and they often had to take loans from family and local churches to do so.

Normans weren't a single state. Various dynasties conquered various parts of Europe. de Normandie in France, de Hauteville in Italy, some other dynasties in the near east.

Anarchy is a state of disorder due to a lack of a government/authority The world has no government.

>Well you guys have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
crusaders were evil.
dante alighieri was religious as fuck, all of his stories was about religion and he knew crusaders were evil.

literally he put saladin in limbo and crusaders in hell.

I mean logistically and as a means or resupply/trade and the ability to hold newly conquered lands as they are so far away from friendly territory.

>rather than expose his true nature to everyone with a public arrest, they decide to do it in secret and at night which would have looked suspicious even if they were right

>not use the very government system they've sworn to protect against him

They are so many better options they could have used to expose Palpatine but that wouldn't work in George's vision of everyone being complete idiots including Palpatine who blatantly tells Anakin he is evil.

he is talking about how haphazard it is. When you picture conquest or play RTS you picture a gradual spread across the land because you feel it would be good for logistics and general interconnection of the population so it feels strange when you spot far away small cities/countries as part of the country

>Seems really silly...
yeah, france/spain/GB have a lot of lands in the US now don't they I guess conquering those far away lands and not being able to hold them was silly.

I don't think you know what anarchy means. The world exists in a state of anarchy at the international level, there's no global government.

>inb4 UN
>inb4 NWO conspiracy theories

>rather than expose his true nature to everyone with a public arrest

Yeah, that would have gone over really well.

"You're under arrest."
"For what?"
"You're a Sith Lord."
"A what?"
"A Sith Lord"
"Sorry, I don't know what that is."

They didn't have much effective communication with each other. The Normans of Italy probably have the most interesting success story, seeing as how they were able to play the Pope off of both Roman Emperors and vice versa.

>The world
countries have governments. by that logic you could keep moving to "solar system has no government" "galaxy has no government" etc,etc.

>"You're Supreme Chancellor and you don't know what a Sith Lord is? They ruled the Galaxy for thousands of years! Have you been sleeping through history classes, man?"

>The world exists in a state of anarchy at the international level
you're a fucking idiot.

why do amerifats bitching about spics when they stole fucktons of clay from them?

Furthermore I doubt it's even illegal to be a sith. Frowned upon perhaps, but an arrestable offence to be a different brand of space wizard?

>countries have governments

Yes, but I'm talking about the world as a whole, at the international level. Obviously individual countries have governments.

>by that logic you could keep moving to "solar system has no government" "galaxy has no government" etc,etc.

But that's true, there's just no reason to say it because as far as we know there are no civilizations outside of Earth.

I'd argue it'll be legal to kill a sith on site.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy_(international_relations)

More importantly, how do you even prove that he's a Sith? Obviously, the Jedi can sense the dark side in him, but if they were just trying to overthrow the Chancellor wouldn't they lie about that? He's got a lightsaber stashed somewhere in his office but nobody knows about it.

it is against the law to be a Sith under republic law. Jedi will kill or imprison them.

>Obviously, the Jedi can sense the dark side in him
They couldn't even though. They were going entirely on what Anakin told them.

CONGRATULATIONS

You figured out the most basic plot point of the prequels and nearly their entire point: the Jedi were flawed and corrupt and Anakin needed to bring them down on the road to restoring balance to the force

>wikipedia
>"theory" in the first 4 words
that's enough of that.

Source?

Some Normans would occasionally just set off and conquer a kingdom.

England and Normandy was one kingdom and often included the Plantagenet holdings.

Sicily, Tripoli and Antioch were three different ones. I'm not sure about the smaller ones.

Pic related.

>Normans weren't the major faction of Crusaders
kek
Normans didn't all live in Normandy, if that's what you're thinking. And a lot of Norman lands were officially apart of the Kingdom of France.
Seriously, what are you even talking about?

>Germans were the 2nd largest crusader faction
Germans were only major in the Baltic crusades.

sheev was just trolling them at this point, his office was full of sith art and other garbage

>Jedi outnumber the Sith by hundreds
>believe the force is unbalanced against them
>think Anakin bringing balance to it will be a good thing

that's literally not George's intention though.

eh, there is an adventure with bail organa and obi wan were bail has to learn how bad the sith, he thinks all the old talk is exaggerated. also lets not forget that it is a big galaxy and they have various force cults, religious orders with strange requirements (like removing your brain or being constantly on drugs)

Much better than what they did in the movie. Hell even later, Obi Wan of Yoda are looking at the damning evidence of Palpatine making Anakin Darth Vader and they don't bother to broadcast this but instead admit defeat and run away.

Yeah, there's nothing wrong being a member of an organization whose entire history has been nothing but evil and wanting to rule the galaxy.

Why would people assume the Jedi would want to take over now after a thousand generations of them being the keepers of peace, usually avoiding conflict and their promotion of being selfless? They didn't want to overthrow him, just simply get him out of power because he was an obvious threat to the republic as he kept getting more and more power given to him. Never once did they say they wanted to put a Jedi in his place or simply take over.

"Franks" don't exist post 10th century. It's French. West Francia became the Kingdom of French and they lost basically all major connection to their Germanic Frankish roots.

"Franks" is just what the Muslims called all Western Europeans. Also the French (which includes Norman vassals) and independent Normans were the primary group of Crusades to the Holy Land.

If the world doesn't exist in a state of anarchy, then where is the world government? What is the authority that tells all countries what to do?

Read the thread dude, I'm not spoonfeeding people.

>But that's true
so by your logic if mars and earth end up having 2 different governments than the solar system is in anarchy

>Obi Wan of Yoda are looking at the damning evidence of Palpatine making Anakin Darth Vader and they don't bother to broadcast this but instead admit defeat and run away.
This is one of the biggest fuck ups in Revenge of the Sith. They found irrefutable proof that Sheev is an evil Sith lord and they didn't even take it with them.

>They didn't want to overthrow him
They leaped at the overthrowing him the first chance they got. They didn't even bother getting proof they were so fucking excited.

death of the author

international agreements, UN security council, international courts, the fact that all other countries will gang up on you if you start doing whatever you want. There is no 'one' leader true but there is a definite hierarchy with laws, agreements, and repercussions. Countries can generally do what they want within their own borders if it doesn't breach said agreements/human rights laws etc. but they can't do fuck all outside of their borders because lol it's not an anarchistic world no matter what your political science teachers told you.

I guess it went over your head the entirety of the prequels was the Jedi falling from grace. Mace and Yoda thinking with their lightsabers should've been a very clear indication of this.

>are told the elected official follows a different religion than you
The Sith are the sworn enemy of the Jedi and Republic; that's mostly the point of the Clone Wars. The Jedi and Republic are terrified of the Sith coming back. It's mentioned by Lucas and even movies that the Republic was destroyed by the Sith 1,000 years ago.

>Why would people assume the Jedi would want to take over now after a thousand generations of them being the keepers of peace, usually avoiding conflict and their promotion of being selfless?
because the war ruined their public image. also it was "foreseen"
>Order 66 could be found in the document entitled Contingency Orders for the Grand Army of the Republic: Order Initiation, Orders 1 through 150, GAR Document CO(CL) 56-95, a document containing a series of special contingency orders that covered any and all emergency situations, which the clones that comprised the GAR were prepared to execute, immediately and without question, and only in specific cases of extreme necessity. Some of these orders concerned contingencies any armed force could conceivably face. Many dealt with contingencies specifically involving the GAR Supreme Commander — in this case, Supreme Chancellor Palpatine — and the effect on the chain of command were he ever to become incapacitated or declared unfit to issue orders. In particular, Order 65 dealt with the detainment and possible execution of the Supreme Chancellor by the Republic, further hiding the true intention of Order 66. Sufficiently buried among the other one hundred forty-nine orders so as to almost escape notice, Contingency Order 66 specifically dealt with the effect on the chain of command were issues to arise involving the Jedi.

Can some EU fag explain to me when Darth Evil becomes plot relevant?

You talking about Sheev, Plagueis or some other Sith lord?

Sith is a religion of peace.

Toppest kek.

KYS so Odin the non-existent faggot can suck off your corpse.

churchofthecrusaders.blogspot.ie/2016/10/apologia-case-against-jesus-was-commie.html

>EU
Doesnt apply anymore.

>EU

No point in reading that anymore, it isn't anything to do with Star Wars.

>Why would people assume the Jedi would want to take over now after a thousand generations of them being the keepers of peace, usually avoiding conflict and their promotion of being selfless?

A lot of people don't trust the Jedi, and the perception of them being selfless is actually kind of sinister because they're selfless on a personal level, like a suicide bomber.

Palpatine told a member of the Jedi Order (Anakin) exactly this. Palpatine told Anakin that he was the Sith Lord that the Jedi had been looking for. That is more than enough proof to arrest somebody.

Dude, you can't mention Bane in a/tv/ thread. Ya dun goof'd.

No, no he's talking about Darth Icky.

I dont get why palpatine didnt just use the force to crush their lightsabers. You never really see palpatine use the force, can he?

Why don't Jedi just go straight for the heart/brain of their enemies. Why force-choke when you could basically fuck up their major organs. All Jedi would have to be trained to keep this from happening, I feel like. Lightsabers would only be useful against non-Jedi. Two people trained in the force would be fighting to keep the other one from breaking their body with the force. It would be like an intellectual game in many ways.

are jedi trained to fight other force users? There was no sith for a long time.

Sri Lankan civil war saw many atrocities committed by Buddhists. Also Hindi suicide bombers in that war too

They didn't do nothin

Oh no black people are getting more parking tickets SYSTEMATIC oppression SYSTEMATIC OPPRESSION. It is in their right to loot riot and NOT use public governmental forums to voice their opinions. Black people get in colleges at a much much easier barrier of entry. They get an edge on jobs with lower qualifications