Do you think that we have gotten to the point where only movies and shows that are politically correct will be made...

what is youtube hero?

What age group are you talking about? I'm 31 and everyone I know in their 20's is a retarded sjw.

>baker refuses to make a cake for a gay couple
>that's discrimination

lol they had to pay a $150k fine and closed down

Nothing important unless you're a Cred Forums teen

But it's ok when Twitter shadowbans people for saying the wrong things

It's 2016 shitlord ;^)

youtube.com/watch?v=Wh_1966vaIA

youtube.com/watch?v=fygTPUjzmRk

...

Look what appeared in recommended videos when I watched that:
youtube.com/watch?v=BXxBZ3c6Pbo

>My Chemical Romance
>Spotify

kek

Yeah man. People don't like it when you're an asshole. Do you ever try it on the street irl? Same results. You can try and play it off as a joke, but its not like anybody is doing that completely unaware that they will come off as offensive.

Sure thing pal

The school of post-modernism is breaking down, and types like you will be in one hell of a ride over the next decade. Moral relativism and absolutist policies of speech are already on the wane. The situationlist are coming back.

If you don't like something voice your dislike, don't silence the other thing otherwise creativity will go to shit.

But plz keep in mind that cultural appropriation is bad

;^)

That helmet is actually pretty well cool

Pls tell her to come back to /fit/

I hope this doesn't bleed over into amazon and Netflix

No keep her away.

>Do you think that we have gotten to the point where only movies and shows that are politically correct will be made?
This is a joke, right?

Before the sixties, movies were very controlled in regards to what they depicted. No swearing, no nudity, no sex, violence was bloodless.

We are moving back to the time before the New Hollywood Era except its liberal-angled shit. Don't be surprised if all the things I mentioned above are also enforced again.

But those movies could still have a point of view.

youtu.be/CK4QtiPhTRQ

This.

The level of hypocrisy liberals have is utterly fucking maddening.

swearing, nudity, sex, violence are just like age rating shit. they don't restrict what you have to say.

>liberals

There are hypocrites on both sides, and there are far more on the Cred Forums type side of things. Kill yourself.

>and there are far more on the Cred Forums type side of things.

Not even fucking close. Not even in the same fucking ballpark.

Trust me I used to consider myself a liberal then the past 5 years things suddenly switched. It used to be the conservatives that were for censorship and now it is liberals. Completely confusing. I find myself wanting to vote for trump.

Pre-code had none of that shit. Plz get your history right

Don't worry user. This identity politics shit started in academic circles in 2007/8. It's been hitting a wall for the past year plus, so it should reflect itself in 2018 or so.

>and there are far more on the Cred Forums type side of things

Cred Forums is a tiny board on a fucking Tibetan Knitting Forum.

Retarded Liberals are a mainstream force of politics and currently dominate/control the media, the Supreme Court, HR departments, many of the most influential businesses and most of the Internet.

Not really a fair comparison, faggot.

>believe in god
>call anyone irrational or brainwashed

Instantly, automatically hypocritical. Not that that even begins to cover it, but it's already enough.

As a trot who was part of platypus, absolutely untrue

It's just that liberals were more united than conservatives, which was our strength. This isn't true anymore, especially with the blowback against relativist Pomo.

>Cred Forums are nobodies

Why don't you tip that fedora a little harder, Dawkins?

Or do you only bother doing it when you know your Protestant parents can see it so you can piss them off?

>argues against being called brainwashed by spamming rehearsed buzzwords
>you wear le hat!

You Cred Forums shitposters are dumber than most non-human mammals. It's hilarious.

>everyone that's not a fedora-tipper like me is le dumb!

You /r/atheism shitposters are dumber than most non-human mammals. It's hilarious.

Not the guy you replied to but I feel I'm being pushed towards the "alt right" in order to balance out the sheer 1984 esque shit that is happening here. Seriously. Was never like this before.

You think literal fairy tale characters are real and you justify this by claiming sentient people wear funny hats. Your IQ is so low that you aren't even vaguely aware of what an embarrassing, brain dead, worthless oxygen waste you are. Go back to your containment board, chimp.

>only movies and shows that are politically correct will be made?
Wait, are there any made that aren't PC right now? I can't watch anything post-2005 anymore.

>more fedora-drivel

>REEEEEEEEEEEE RELIGION GRRRRRRR

I am legitimately suggesting you go back to Riddit.
No meanie Christians will trigger your autism there.

>meanie Christians

You're not intelligent enough to qualify for descriptions like "mean." Kill yourself.

>This identity politics shit started in academic circles in 2007/8.
Are you really this retarded that you think it started only when you noticed it?

I can fucking SMELL your salt from here.

Stay mad.

>that severe mental illness

comedy gold. muh hat

this is the worst point in history due to the stifling effect of political correctness

Something tells me there have been worse points in history, and that you, you fat, subhuman Cred Forums shitposter, deserves to experience them first-hand endlessly for all eternity just for saying something like this.

God damn, I never thought I'd wish metastatic cancer on anyone, and then I encountered Cred Forums posters.

>literally becoming a janny for free

l m f a o

It didn't start then by any means, but it did start polluting leftist circles then. Even Stalinists got saturated with this shit by 2010.

haha, i love her autism

How many people in your family fall into the criteria you just listed?

Comments on youtube aren't art

They could potentially take away whole channels. And if successful don't expect it to stay in youtube.

>Something tells me there have been worse points in history

We, at Cred Forums, are the only ones who actually learned from those "worse points in history". We studied them. We debated them. We analyzed them. We are now also seeing signs of those "worse points" manifesting again. We intend to stop it. Why? Because we're /pol'. We're the ones who know everything. We dig deep into history's archives and research absolutely everything, so you don't have to.

Cred Forums is the only chance humanity has left. Now fucking THANK us, you ungrateful wretch.

No. Also, you're a faggot.

Identity politics is a product of the New Left of the 1960s, user.

Get ready to be sent to camps for not having the right opinion.

twitter.com/MisterMetokur/status/784996103909367808

They thought it was fine to be fags and degenerates but didn't they always fight for free speech and against censorship?

>but didn't they always fight for free speech and against censorship?

No. They only fought for that in areas where they weren't dominant.
Even in the 60's they were censoring and exiling members of their own party for not towing the line, and campaigning to change laws as to give them the power to censor at large.

The Left's love of censorship is NOT a recent one, as so many people like to think it is.

I'm thinking of Carlin, Lenny Bruce and people like that.

No. These sort of threads are the best detectors of people who don't watch films.

comments on youtube are pure cancer

What do they have to do with it?

They were druggie/counter culture comedians but perhaps they were more libertarian than liberal

Did they run the organizations and academia?

You're talking about people who are/were simply supporting the same views that entertainers always supported, from ancient Rome to nazi Germany. They're just... there.

No I believe they were arrested

I personally think you're probably on the right path when the extremists on both sides reject you for challenging their extremist views.

I make a point of never censoring myself and always challenge bullshit when I see it. As a result, I'm banned from a long list of "progressive" subreddits, and have been called a "cuck" dozens of times on Cred Forums.

But if someone says black people can't be racist, or that "white privilege" is a problem, I'll tell them why I disagree. If someone says that we need to open borders for everyone and that muslim communities are totally compatible with secular western society, I'll give a polite, respectful argument against those points. If someone is spoting racist/misogynist abuse on the internet, I'll often ignore it because it's the internet, I only have so much time in a day. I like to think I'd call it out in real life though. But if someone tries to make an honest case for racism/misogyny, if they seem like they take it seriously then I'll tell them why I think everyone should be treated with the same amount of respect until they've demonstrated their character through actions that affect others.

At the moment, the left seem more scary to me because their methods are as ruthless as their ideology is delusional. The alt-right might spew a lot of blind hatred online but it's at least considered unacceptable in the media and IRL in general. Also, the alt-right's main targets tend to be actual extremists on the "other side," and their response is usually no more than a peaceful protest, a vote, or a humorously photoshopped image. Whereas even a moderate conservative or libertarian is routinely branded a monster by the left now, and the left's "solutions" tend to be overt or covert censorship, "education" of children, ruinous financial penalties and real physical violence.

Wait, are we on Cred Forums? Well then, I recommend Demolition Man. Great movie.

I honestly think the average Cred Forums user has double digit IQ.

Churchill was right when he said that the fascist of the future will be the antifascist

Another convincing argument from our resident SJW. What's next? You gonna call us all fat again? Proving beyond doubt that your own IQ is a force to be reckoned with, aren't you?

If you so-called progressive liberals had any kind of reasoning to back up your position, you surely would've presented it by now instead of instinctively flinging shit at vague internet boogeymen when confronted with an image or statement you don't understand.

The average person might present rational arguments 2 or 3 times to a Cred Forums shitposter before realizing that Cred Forums shitposters don't operate on rationality. You're more feelings-based than SJWs, and easily dumber. Probably the dumbest people alive.

Not only can you not present a rational argument, you can't even present an original insult.

What rationality does a Reddit poster need for pissing in an ocean of piss?

Plz respond

>circle jerks on a board where the average argument is calling people CTR Jews
>the average IQ is literally around 40
>complains about originality of arguments or insults

My intent was to be accurate, not original. I'm not insulting, just observing. You deserve to die, and forget the laundry list of good reasons. Just the hypocrisy will do. You don't deserve to benefit from human society.

Oh Cred Forums. You always take the bait. You fall for the simplest bullshit and let opportunists take you for a ride. Like Molyneux you posted. And Alex Jones, Milo, Paul Joseph Watson and the list goes on. They all jumped the on the Trump bandwagon when the saw the traffic it generated. Molyneux is (was?) anarcho-capitalist for God's sake.

Do you really believe Pewdiepie has become redpilled?

If your intent was accuracy then you wouldn't have used the word "literally" in such an inaccurate manner.

>You deserve to die
That seems like quite a "feelings-based" judgement you're making there. I'm certainly not seeing a reasonable argument based on evidence anywhere in your posts. Are you sure you're not just lashing out angrily like a frustrated child?

>Do you think we have gotten to the point where only movies and shows that are politically correct will be made?
Of course not, and it will never happen. If you are scared of YouTube heroes, just use a different service and continue to support the stuff you like. YouTube heroes is an attempt to clean up their site to be more palatable, and for the most part is a business move. If there is a market for certain ideas and content, they will continue to be made. History tells us this, and we have moved passed way more strict policies in the past.

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>"feelings-based" judgement
Your God Emperor and his shills are all about facts

youtube.com/watch?v=xnhJWusyj4I

>voting for a warmonger

I'm glad to see other educated anons

Top of my fedora to you

>Do you really believe Pewdiepie has become redpilled?
Nobody does. The fact that you think that filename was posted in earnest demonstrates your laughable credulity, even as you laugh at everyone on Cred Forums (a massive, diverse community) for being supposedly gullible.

If your intelligence was so great in comparison to this "Cred Forums" character you're so obsessed with, you'd see the irony there.

How do images like these even get made by people whose top 30 most used words are all different variations of calling people shills?

Why do Reddit niggers post here?

Wow, nice strawman, but it doesn't really work when I tell you I have never supported Trump, just like hundreds of regular Cred Forums users that you apparently consider identical in every way.

You're posting on Cred Forums, should I infer that you are constantly posting Bane threads? Because that's an equally blind assumption.

>tu quoque
It's good that you're branching out in the kinds of logical fallacies you use. Maybe one day you'll be ready for a grown up argument.

It's only a fallacy if you're using it as an argument. I'm not arguing, I'm just observing that it's fascinating that a board which exclusively uses ad hominems to argue would complain about ad hominems, even though people have a 100% accuracy rate of calling out Cred Forums, in stark contrast to calling people Jews or shills. You're not smart enough to reference fallacies, stick to chimping out mindlessly.

>logical fallacies

Number #1 mark of a shitter

>incorrectly calling out fallacies
>not understanding what fallacies are
>speaking arrogantly while being less intelligent than pets people keep in crates

If Cred Forums IQ was bannable this site would be usable.

Only if leaf and ctr proxies are banned first

I'm sure you'll agree since you seem like someone who cares about this site

>Cred Forums is only satire

>i'm not disagreeing, i'm just saying "no u"

>gg is only a joke

;^)

There was a thread on Cred Forums about 5 months ago where around 15-20 users took an online IQ test and posted screencaps of their results. The average was around 120-130, and there were a few that hit 150+.

What's your IQ anons? My average score is about 132, my highscore is 156.

>88

Ong this is trump rallying racist to his cause

He is def hitter 5.0 and ur super racist if you vote for him

Since when is youtube Cred Forums related?

What's a more appropriate board for discussion of an online video hosting site than Cred Forums - Talkin' Videos?

>they don't restrict what you have to say

yes it does. The first thing you listed was swearing.

This is the official IQ scores of Cred Forums

>Cred Forums is smarter than Cred Forums

HAHAR! I KNEW IT!

>/s4s/ got trips
Confirmed legit.

In every American community there are varying shades of political opinion. One of the shadiest of these is the liberals. An outspoken group on many subjects, ten degrees to the left of center in good times, ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally. Here, then, is a lesson in safe logic.
-Phil Ochs

>falling for the left-right dichotomy
>not realizing that the average person finds both sides to be disgusting and appalling.
>not positioning yourself as a hard center

I absolutely love shitting on both. They're both composed of fringe elements of society who are extremely resentful of their inability to be active participants of mainstream life. I don't like xenophobic racism anymore than I like mentally ill trannies getting gender surgery on my tax dollars.

>hard center
That's contradictory. Centrists have no firm opinions on anything.

>People don't like it when you're an asshole
What like telling people their opinions are automatically invalid because of their race, gender and sexual orientation, that kind of thing?

>it's a Cred Forums thread

Oh rly?

Yeah we get it you wanna fuck Cred Forums NOBODY CARES!

Socialist with a fetish for fascist aesthetics.

Yeah they should just accuse everyone who disagrees with them of being from Cred Forums like a mature person such as yourself, that's so much more constructive.

YouTube an Hero

>it wasn't an argument because I said it wasn't!
Yeah I don't think arguments work that way, your logic bullshit no matter what your intent was.

>even though people have a 100% accuracy rate of calling out Cred Forums
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I like you.

Look at how they buried Dredd because they thought it was fascist. Read "Culture of Critique" if you want to understand why Hollywood makes the movies that it does.

>political correctness in the 70s: the butt of every joke
>political correctness in the 80s: the butt of every joke
>political correctness in the 90s: the butt of every joke
>political correctness in the 00s: the butt of every joke
>political correctness in the 10s: THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE KNOWN TO MAN

Really confused as to what changed here.

>It's Americans who only watch Hollywood top10 shit whine about cinema thread
kys

I agree. Where I live the conservatives now are for peace in foreign policies and freedom of speech in our country. It used to be the other way round. This became very pronounced over the last 3-4 years.

People didn't take the whistleblowers serious and now that they've been proven right people are rightfully freaking out.

It is confusing. Even in my private circles people are coming under the influence of the madness of the SJW ideology. Girlfriend is being influenced by the hysteria. Contemplate departure.

normalfags got on the internet

You're 16, right?
Because nobody older actually believes being religious always means taking the Bible literally.

There's plenty of people who consider themselves religious but actually take religion only as life philosophy and don't actually believe in the supernatural.

But of course a 16 year old wouldn't know that.

its not really. its a 'loud minority' situation and the megaphone that is social media that is making it seem like a bigger deal than it really is

if society was as obsessed with PCness as is suggested, Donald Trump would not have gained as much support as he has

If society wasn't as obsessed with PCness as you're suggesting, he won't have had lost the election on account of joking about pussy 11 years ago.

Thanks for correcting the record.

and if he was running 10, 20 or 30 years ago he'd have lost it too in the same circumstances. there aren't consequences exclusive to today that didn't exist before. PCness only exists cause people cower to it under pressure, not cause its law

I'm talking about the socioideological climate in which such things are somehow not only relevant, but considered silver bullets, tardmeister.

For that, you have to have most of the society either completely brainwashed, or afraid to speak up (so effectively brainwashed because they're acting as if they are so that the pod people don't point at them and scream).

>PCness only exists cause people cower to it under pressure, not cause its law
Yes, and that's the best way to make people do what you want, through societal pressure, not through actual law that can be broken, protested against, changed, maligned when you become a dissident and speak against it in "free" countries etc.

Ever lived in a communist country? I have. It's the exact same shit, levels upon levels of control, official and unofficial, that can be used against anyone at any time.

>The other side of politics is that way because they're all retarded
These kind of comments are actually the best way to spot the real double digit IQ

Donald trump built his campaign on fighting PCness, it's the reason he went this far into the election

i dont think ive ever read a post this faggoty in my life

Trump's popularity exists almost completely as a backlash against the explosion of political correctness and it's ruthless enforcement.

Once upon a time, political correctness was seen as the anti-establishment position. It was young hip rebels criticising the racist old white men in power, as a continuation of the (anti-establishment) civil rights movement. It was "cool" to be on the side of victims of oppression, and even after that oppression had ended, the attitude prevailed, becoming inextricably linked to the liberal-conservative political dichotomy.

The pendulum kept swinging, political correctness, selectively applied, was adopted by the establishment as a tool for censorship and social engineering. Political correctness now pushes for inequality among race and gender, inventing "privileges" and "micro-aggressions" that must be countered. Universal tolerance has become selective intolerance, and liberals in favour of further PC-based change are finding it difficult to justify their position as promoting equality (indeed, many openly advocate for inequalities such as affirmative action).

Notice both sides (left and right) still believe they are fighting the establishment. Leftists are against the racist police, conservative government, corporatists etc. Right wingers are against the liberal media, government censorship, and promotion of immigration, racial/gender quotas etc.

Trump is (supposedly) the establishment because he's a rich white male Republican. Hillary is (apparently) the establishment because she's been a part of the government for 20+ years and takes money from Wall Street.

Whoever wins, unless there is a major domestic crisis, the USA will remain radically divided on this issue of political correctness as a result of it being used as a political tool by both sides to identify the "bad guy."

>>Once upon a time, political correctness was seen as the anti-establishment position.
That's literally never been the case.

The more you censor and try to ban things, the more power and importance they hold.

well spoken.
When PC was still counter culture, the same rebels were also against plutocracy and the military industrieal complex. But now PC is a tool for the plutocracy and the m-i-c. The rebels from the 80s now find themselves between front lines. Some turn full conformists. Some turn their back on PC.

Yes, pc was part of straight edge hardcore punk. It was counter culture in the 80s.

>>When PC was still counter culture, the same rebels were also against plutocracy and the military industrieal complex.
When was that? Because I think you're confusing something. PC wasn't the part of the "cool rebel kid" thing, we made fun of the retards who pushed it, the Rage Against the Machine generation was antiglobalist, antiimperialist, antiPC, it was pretty much the exact opposite of what it is now.

>rage against the machine
>haha I know about punk rock guys

Pick one

maybe counter culture was not coherent on PC. But there was a branch that promoted veganism and PC and asceticism and environmentalism. It was their agenda that made it's way into the mainstream. The anti oligarchy faction lost.

You literally didn't mention punk until after I wrote that dude.

Are you saying that this was an actual significant movement in the 80s music scene then? Because in the entire 90s, this was "mainstream alternative", it wasn't just 2 guys drinking tofu milk in a basement squat.

I was first vegetarian and then vegan an from 1992 to early 00s and was into the whole "I'm totally going to be Che Guevara except for makeup test bunnies" thing, and I haven't met anyone in the dreadlocks-and-piercings circles that supported PC in any way whatsoever in the entire decade.

Everyone was into Chomsky and Klein and all that, and there was feminism, but PC or SJW, not at all.

But as I said, this wasn't really as counterculture as I imagine actual counterculture to be, and then when Bush appeared it become so mainstream and diluted that it wasn't even mainstream alternative anymore, now literally everyone got into it.

It still is in some circles. People who believe that "institutional racism" exists, and that their enforcement of political correctness is just an extension of the civil rights movement seriously think they're fighting an inherently racist establishment. And if you consider the church as still being a part of the establishment (as it traditionally is), then there are still areas of western society where even the mildest PC views on homosexuality have yet to take hold.

But if you go back far enough, the idea that racial slurs should be legislated against was once unthinkable by society in general. The government and media didn't just turn right around and start enforcing hate speech laws and PC codes of conduct with the abolition of Jim Crow. It took decades of changing people's attitudes before governments began going with the increasing flow of public opinion.

The establishment, including much of the media and government, were once made up of society's conservatives, even until the mid-80s. Interracial couples were still considered "too shocking for TV" by many networks in my lifetime, while the rebellious youth campaigned for tolerance.

>But there was a branch that promoted veganism and PC and asceticism and environmentalism.
And about that - I actually think that veganism and asceticism and environmentalism totally lost, I don't see this in the "mainstream alternative" anymore at all. Maybe it got a resurgence with hipsters, I don't know, I'm too old to give a fuck about that shit anymore. Did it?

well, I guess the entire topic is too complex to be discussed here. But I think we can all agree that todays SJW movement is annoying and that it does a great disservice to what in a oversimplification could be called the left or progressive agenda.

Yes, absolutely.

Anyway, from my view it just got coopted by the PC/globalist/government agenda at some point, and you're probably right that these forces existed within it, but to someone who was in the part that didn't give a shit about that and actively mocked it, it just looks like people suddenly got brainwashed into some 180° bullshit.

This is mostly right, except for major cultural shifts. Luckily, in the USA, that is not likely to be a real issue, because aside from bitching and complaining, the SJW faction doesn't do a whole lot of organizing or "true" activism that could lead to a significant cultural shift.
They're just another social movement so far, without really turning the world political in any meaningful way. This election could be pivotal to how the future goes, though.

>They're just another social movement so far, without really turning the world political in any meaningful way.
Which is why the ruling class has been using them for their purposes so easily.

The SJW don't have to do anything, PC/globalist/government agenda, it's being pushed regardless.

As many anons mentioned the left have always had many flags, veganism, enviromentalism, socialism, and many others, and the only one that got used by mainstream politics was their PC stance, that replaced stepford wives former PC stance.

They took the blame for the enorcement of this new way of censorship, cause they dumbly asked for it, instead of defending their rights for a free speech.

Thay wanted to silence the other party, but just because they don't say racist things or show more diversity in movies and shows, it doesn't mean it's real, it's just easier to have the superficial change in media, than it is, to transform society from within.

I'm 22 and everyone I know in their 20's is vehemently anti-SJW

>Do you think that we have gotten to the point where only movies and shows that are politically correct will be made?
How many big profile anti-capitalist movies from the past 50 years can you recall?

Thanks for correcting the record.