WTF I hate communism now!

WTF I hate communism now!

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10 million chinks dont lie little bro

>DUDE COMMUNISM KILLED 100,000,000,000,000,000 AND SEVENTY GORILLION PEOPLE LMAO

How many people will starve to death today despite the fact that we produce more than enough food to feed them?

you're an idiot

good goy

t-that doesn't count bro!!!

Hunger and starvation is at an all-time low worldwide.

Good post, I like it

only lazy or crazy people

>now

whataboutism

Americans waste 25% of their food yet 10% of their population is borderline starving. Truly they are gods chosen people.

>he actually believes this
The fattest people in America are below the poverty line.

>now
If you're older than 16 kill your self

>buys into media propaganda
Yes user, there is no problem. Now go back to being a productive consumerist slave.

Media propaganda is the one saying we need more money for dem programs for dem starving (yet obese at the same time somehow) black peopl.

lol the majority of the people starving are poor white folk from red states with little to no programs. But there is no problem user so go back to being a consumerist fuck.

As opposed to being a non-consumerist fuck starving even worse?

got any proof of that? people don't die of starvation in the usa

>WTF I hate communism now!

My parents lived through the cultural revolution.

They literally pulled both of them from the top university in China to put them to work on farms.

In a communist system, all lives are equally worthless, except for a few 'leaders' at the top... alot of you westerners don't understand this.

Mao was such a great leader

>we need to industrialize
>every peasant gets a small smelting furnace in their backyard
>force peasants to melt down their shovels and hoes into iron bars
>the iron is brittle shit not useful for anything
>peasants all get lead poisoning from the furnaces
>peasants have no hoes to till the soil
>peasants die of famine and lead poisoning

>borderline starving

lol someone hasn't ever actually looked at the stats. The actual wording is "food insecure," which is defined as "lacking reliable access to a sufficient quantity of affordable, nutritious food."

You know what drives those numbers up?

>nutritious food

Nobody is starving the US.

>now

The pure ignorance and stubborness of Chinese leadership never fails to amaze me.

If you search 1989 tiananmen square event in China, you'll get zero results.

the chinese government still thinks keeping its own people as Ignorant as possible is a smart strategy.

like in communist north korea?

Soft censorship is working out alright for them, for now. They prosecute at random, so most people feel like, if they really wanted to, they could discuss the controversial events. Most Chinese know about Tienamen, but they don't really feel like rocking the boat.

>Most Chinese know about Tienamen, but they don't really feel like rocking the boat.

That's the other thing I learned from my parents.

Chinese people will be sheep their entire lives if it means survival.

Have you ever been to North Korea or did you only learn about it from your totally unbiased capitalist media?

>ers.usda.gov/publications/err-economic-research-report/err194.aspx
>An estimated 14.0 percent of American households were food insecure at least some time during the year in 2014
>cdc.gov/NCHS/data/nvsr/nvsr57/nvsr57_14.pdf
>from 2006-today over 2000 people in the US died from malnutrition, mostly older people

Apparently some retards don't know what borderline is too. The poor can't afford real food so they either die early deaths or more likely cost the medical system dearly. But that clearly isn't a problem for your masters just us poor workers who pay the majority of the taxes.

>In a communist system, all lives are equally worthless, except for a few 'leaders' at the top... alot of you westerners don't understand this.
Top kekeroni

You can get away with almost anything in the USA through nepotism and wealth. A local businessman was driving drunk and killed a homeless with his truck; he got acquitted. The local school district's former superintendent (head) was charged with embezzling something like $500k in public school funds...he got like 10 years of probation and house arrest

totally awesome not at all communist American justice system

no but people that have defected from North Korea confirm over and over that it's a hellhole with labor camps and numerous starving people

you mean brainwashed liberal media?

But yeah you are right, its paradise there, they just dont wanna show us because they are shy.

At least you get a trial and aren't just dragged out of your house in the middle of the night and have your throat slit because they ran out of bullets last week.

those dont sound like such horrible unjust sentences desu.

Come back if you got a couple thousand people thrown into labour camps for criticising the government.

> Top kekeroni
> communist American justice system

You sound like a kid with very little sense or understanding of what you're talking about.

>get kicked out of North Korea
>hmmm, should I do what's advantageous for me and comply with the common narrative or do I go contra the popular media and get kicked out of here too instead of being treated like a poor victim?

Are you seriously arguing that North Korea is a great country that's just being portrayed as a hellhole by the west?

>get kicked out of North Korea

yeah thats not how it works

>Come back if you got a couple thousand people thrown into labour camps for criticising the government.

Actual estimates are more like in the tens of millions...

Keep in mind the communist revolution started just after WWII.... that's 60 years of dissapearing people now.

And at the start of the cultural revolution, the gang of 5 made some mass, sweeping arrests across the country.

>food insecure

When you have to come up with new terms, you're lying for you agenda.

The poor can afford real food. They simply don't buy it because it's easier to buy a bag of chips than a bag of corn and cook it.

I've worked at supermarkets. The people who are food stamps have their carts filled with fucking soda and junk food. Always.

That's Maoism.

nope he is obviously trolling

Nice damage control nu-male reddit CTR nerd virgin shill

If Communism is so great why did it fail so spectacularly?

You forgot that various people told Mao it was a horrible idea, but they were branded as enemies of the revolution and imprisoned

>sleeping at night is communism

looks like im a dirty commie then

The only difference between "Maoism" and Communism is that Mao's base for the revolution were the peasants and not the working class (because there was no working class)

>The poor can afford real food. They simply don't buy it because it's easier to buy a bag of chips than a bag of corn and cook it.

American poor poverty

When you have niggers wearing air jordans, gold chains, & talking on their iphones in the soup kitchen line....

those niggers aren't starving... they're malnutritioned by laziness & choice

>he unironically buys into the "well... capitalism is not so great, but it's the only option we have! there is literally no other system whatsoever that could possibly be considered, everything besides capitalism is evil!" meme

While true, Mao did not escape the "Great leap forward" unscathed himself, he had to "retire" for a time and take a backseat only to come back to the forefront with the hell that was the Cultural Revolution

>If Communism is so great why did it fail so spectacularly?

Because communism in practice communism in theory.

> Communism in theory: everyone's equal living in utopia
> Communism in practice: everyone's equally worthless, except for a few elites at the top

>unironically being a communist

You faggots are like an abused wife addicted to beatings. No wonder Pinochet gave you helicopter rides, you're scum that needs to be physically removed. Nobody wants your retarded system.

Capitalism is so great even all the "Communist" countries that exist today use it

>communism has never worked out but maybe this time it will work

Yeah, and he spent a lot of that time fucking 14 year old qts on a yacht in the Yangtze

Dude was never really punished, although his wife was

Jung argued that it's an infectious disease of the unconscious

You have to eradicate the carrier

hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....


>c-capitalism is the only way goy!!!1

>>unironically being a communist

Nobody here's actually a commie... they're just jr high kids who've read theory but have no sense of history or reality.

You can tell by the way he talks he has no substance in his argument.

I bet you believe selling things is capitalism.

>Hurr why don't people feed me for free this is why I need communism

Neck yourself

Don't you know?

Communism is where everything belongs to everyone!

Imagine, if communism was a thing Bobby from preschool could just march right in and take away all your toys!

>inb4 "r-real communism hasn't been tried yet guize"

>You can tell by the way he talks he has no substance in his argument.

It's like he's read a few pamphlets and just believes that they're true without doing any DD or critical thinking.

>> Communism in theory: everyone's equal living in utopia
>> Communism in practice: everyone's equally worthless, except for a few elites at the top

Yup.

Communism also takes away one of the most basic human motivations, next to procreating: hoarding resources / greed.

I know you're being a smartass but that literally is what communism is.

No property rights. Everything belongs to the commune, not the individual.

Yes, buying and selling things based on supply and demand is the literal definition of capitalism you retarded faggot.

Fucking stupid students that get uppity need to be exterminated.

"If you always get the same return whether you put in more effort or no effort, then why provide more effort?"

This is human nature.

>>> Communism in theory: everyone's equal living in utopia
>>> Communism in practice: everyone's equally worthless, except for a few elites at the top

"repugnant conclusion"

if there's more people the second one is better

Mao's shit is sadder, Stalin was at least selling it off for industrialization, to be ready for ww2.

>borderline starving.

Is that when they dont get to finish the entire pizza AND the cheesecake?

No that's when the only thing they have to eat is For me, it's the McChicken from McDonald's

Yet personal property and buying and selling are features of non-capitalist economic systems as well

will you transport the food? How will you work the economy when shops and restaurants start giving out all unsold products?

statistics from the brain trust of muh ass

>westerners don't understand this.
brav any educated persona hates communism,anarchy and libertarianism

Yes but not communism. Communism doesn't recognize personal property.

> if there's more people the second one is better


explain to me like I'm an ignorant commie

Natural selection weeding out the failures is a good thing

> In a long conversation that stretched way past midnight at Mao’s residence on February 17, 1973, the cigar-chomping Chinese leader referred to the dismal trade between the two countries, saying China was a “very poor country” and “what we have in excess is women.”
> He first suggested sending “thousands” of women but as an afterthought proposed “10 million,” drawing laughter at the meeting, also attended by Chinese premier Zhou Enlai.
> Kissinger, who was President Richard Nixon’s national security advisor at that time, told Mao that the United States had no “quotas” or “tariffs” for Chinese women, drawing more laughter.

wtf I love Mao now

Yup. I had friends who were super into it in high school. Then they got jobs and found out some dumb fuck who shows up late and does shitty work gets as much as they do. They turned off it pretty quick.

I have been to North Korea and you have to be a totally idiot to deny that food distribution system collapsed and was never fully restored. also non capitalist media is not singing its praise

North Korea erased any ties to Communism, Marxism and Leninism from its constitution way back in 1991.

It's Juche today.

DOESN'T COUNT LOL

To clarify, Juche is a wierd mix of Fascism, Monarchism and Communism.

Racial purity? Check
Hereditary rule? Check
Government owning the means of production? Check

It doesn't really have much of anything to do with communism, but if you type repugnant conclusion or mere addition paradox into Google you will come to realize that in utilitarian terms a small population where everyone has a very high quality of life is inferior to a very large population where people experience a very low (but positive) quality of life :^)

ah but at least no one is pretending to be leaving in a utopia of friendship and brotherhood and you are not going to get arrested for having an unpatriotic smile or whatever is it your political opponents cook up. also no one subscribes to "sins of the father" ideology were where a whole family is marked or even destroyed by actions of one
>A local businessman was driving drunk
yeah and that is so different from china were exact same and sometimes worse things happen.jackie chan son arrested on drug charges gets an easy pass. you are not arguing that they are better you are just going "b-but out country is shit too" go live there you treacherous libetard and see how much better of you were at home

you can't have majority made out of elites, the same way you can't have a city made out of captains of industry. majority is always stuck cleaning toilets and the general goal should be to make sure that their lives are not too shit

Wow, 2000 whole people in the course of a decade. Fucking slipping in the shower is more likely to kill you. Shit, having TOO MUCH food is way more likely to kill you than not having enough here.

one of the reasons i hate inheritance taxes.

>calling me a "libetard"
>for calling Obama's America communist

That's literally what you types have been doing for the past 12 years, you cumbreath subhuman inferior shitstain cuckold illegitimate child

In the US? It's probably been decades if not centuries since an American has died of famine due to poverty. It literally isn't a thing.

> Great Leap Forward
> Killed 45 million people in four years

It's like a sad joke.

The Soviet workers had a saying: "We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us."

Other considerations aside the problem of motivating people in a communist society has never been solved. Regular folk will never be zealous about the principles of communism. They need something else to get out of bed in the morning.

because non of the utopia faggots(not only Communism but others as well) have ever managed to make a proof of concept, yet it does not stop them from trying to push it on to the whole world, there answer is always "destroy what is and the answer will magically come to us"

Is this supposed to prove something?

Jesus Christ how retarded can you be?

>Obama's America communist
you can't switch the whole economic system in 2 terms, especially with limited powers of a president. disastrous policies don't auto = communist and are not the first or the last in the history of USA. you sound like a retard who likes lumping things together because complexity is confusing

Are you 18?

Did you really forget about all the non-"liebetard" americans equating Obama's America with socialism (communism jr.) after he passed Obamacare? I know that was 4-6 years ago so you might not remember so good back to when you were 12

>daily commie threads

What gives?

and yet they have to go to work. There have been cases in north korea were workers showed up for jobs were there was no work to be done. eventually they stated bribing overseers and women went to work in markets while men managed small hidden fields in the mountains. hidden because NK solution to "well if he has his own field, he wont work as hard in the public field" was to take away their fields.
also let us not forget the transitional persecution that comes from the new government punishing old land owners or basically anyone they see as having been part of the problem or having benefited from the old system

What is your point? politicians scream nonsense every other week, it does not make it so. I took my opinions from an economist who taught me business law. I don't get what is your point, how does republican hyperbole cover legit failings?

As opposed to the west? lel

China is doing the smart thing. They can't compete in a cultural war yet, they don't have the influence.

America's cultural influence is its greatest asset, everything else is dying fast. History isn't going to be kind to America in a century or two.

And don't think for two seconds the chinks forgot about the Opium Wars.

>I took my opinions from an economist who taught me business law. I don't get what is your point, how does republican hyperbole cover legit failings?
You've gone from strawmanning me as a "libetard" to strawmanning me as a "republican"

Is this also something you learned from Professor Liebowitz

not nearly as much

Commies don't work so they have a lot of time to make these threads

How did this guy get everything so right?

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>a century or two

>implying humankind won't reach critical mass and explode by then making history irrelevant

They were usually disguised as Trumbo threads, now they don't even bother.

not true

Im not strawmanning you as anything. Im telling you to appreciate what you have and get off the communist cock.

>Achieved through "special economic zones" which have many company finance freedoms and business operating procedures that do not normally exist in a communist system.

lmao

Could communism work but in a very small nation? Places like Russia and USA are massive and so it's easy to see how it wouldn't work but what about in places like Iceland?

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No. it would not even work in 1 village but the failure would be felt less

it would only work in a nation that could do total autarky, even then it would be tricky.

communism in south america was terminated by the united states. see embargo on cuba, and all the dictatorships they spread.

China is a capitalist nation run by a communist government that doesn't change it's name to "save face".

Its economic growth started with capitalistic market reforms.

In 1978, on the Communist Mao's death, Argentina had a larger economy than China.

survival of the fittest

niggers are worthless anyway

This. They run a hybrid

Yeah just look at how the us has sabotaged Venezuela

How is embargo a sabotage? every self respecting country should be self sustaining and a communist country should be able to exist without having to trade with capitalists. That is like saying not giving aid money to NK is sabotage

nice bait

so you have no reply, k

Refute his point, oh wait, you literally can not.

>now
Die commie scum.

>Being ashamed of Americanism
>The greatest creation the Renaissance ever gave humanity

I can't wait for calling lefties out for the commies that they are comes back into style.

Hardly any.

Capitalism has ensured that even the laziest and most worthless person, from Africa to Alabama, is well fed.

Too well fed, as evidenced by Africa's massively destabilizing explosion in population and the West's massively unaesthetic explosion in waistlines.

Literally no one is starving in the U.S. due to lack of access to food.

Obesity is rife among those living near the poverty line.

Even in regions of the world where famine is a threat, it's nearly entirely due to conflicts strangling supply.

Right.

Thanks to Capitalism and Free Market policies China rose from a nation of starving agricultural workers to a booming industrial nation.

Based Deng Xiaoping.

>calling and criticizing Obama's America as communist makes me a communist
Ok college liberal CTR kiddo

seriously, we have fat people everywhere.

you basically stated with "communism not so bad, just look at how much capitalist US sucks"

>Frank Dikotter.

Sinophile here. Dikotter is full of shit. He's an anti-Communist revisionist historian like Conquest.

He claims he had direct access to the archives, in reality, he only interviewed people, who interviewed people who claimed they had access.

>Claims 1 in 5 people in China died during the GLF.

This is also a load of shit as well. Death rates are a loss in projected population if the famine didn't occur, not "How many people died". Because of mass mobilization in 1958, an entire year before the GLF, birth rates plummeted, which caused a massive drop in projected population.

youtube.com/watch?v=1L6aTHtZF00

This PBS documentary is the single best and most balanced look at the reign of Mao Zedong.

I would also ask you to ask yourself, if Mao was so "evil" like western chinese expats and the western media say, why is he beloved in China so much? Especially in rural areas?

>They literally pulled both of them from the top university in China to put them to work on farms.

I love this is the great crime of the cultural revolution that rich western chinese expats always point too.

Oh nooooo, rich urban elite had to experience what 98% of China had to live like for a few months.

Fuck off, the Cultural Revolution was a disaster because of the fanaticism of the red guard and the vagueness of Mao's statements which almost caused a civil war in China between differing Red Guard factions.

The other disaster of the Cultural Revolution is that it completely discredited leftist and humanist ideals in China, thus Neo-Confucianism along with crazy cults like Fulan Gong filled the ideological vacuum post Cultural Revolution.

>Communism also takes away one of the most basic human motivations, next to procreating: hoarding resources / greed

Muh human nature.

Explain why serfs were fine working their entire lives earning jack shit under feudalism for thousands of years, with only "divine right of kings" driving them?

Explain why in behavioral economics, it's shown that the more money you dangle in front of someone, the less productive they become?

>Oh nooooo, rich urban elite had to experience what 98% of China had to live like for a few months.
it was not for few months and its pointless to try to make jacks of all trade. When a person spends their whole life to specialize in a job you don't give them a job anyone could do

Good pic, I like it

>Killed 45 million people.
>Believe Frank Dikotter when he says China lowered the death rate from 49:1000 to 10:1000 in just 8 years. (which itself, would have saved hundreds of millions of lives)
>Believe Frank Dikotter when he claims the death rate of the GLF was 50+:1000 in the Chinese archives.
>The Chinese archives actually say the death rate of the GLF was 25.4:1000
>Death rate in India at the same time 24:1000
>Death rate in Hong Kong at the same time, 32:1000

Western pop history is a load of horse shit. Or how about Chang and Halliday, with their "We can literally read Mao's thoughts" which is the biggest selling book on the history of the cultural revolution, yet universally panned by all academics.

>why is he beloved
Why are others beloved? even worst people in history were beloved by someone and usually have have fans even after their death

>Explain why serfs were fine working their entire lives earning jack shit under feudalism for thousands of years, with only "divine right of kings" driving them?
They were not.

>shown that the more money you dangle in front of someone, the less productive they become
link proof

>yet 10% of their population is borderline starving

ITT statistics you pulled out of your ass.

It was not to make people "Jacks of all trades".

Maoism believes there is another class disconnect between urban and rural workers which creates antagonisms between these two classes.

The point of going to the fields. Was to reconnect the urban and the rural proletariat, to give the richer, urban workers, an experience, of what the rural peasant in China actually experienced in their day to day life.

>They were not.
TIL I learned on Cred Forums, Feudalism didn't exist.

>link proof
faculty.chicagobooth.edu/emir.kamenica/documents/behavioralincentives.pdf

No I stayed that the USA is a communist system under Obama, you CTR liberal cuck

Mao is beloved because under Mao Chinese peasants got more rights than at any point in history. There was massive development and refocus on rural areas.

You also saw a doubling in life expectancy, massive population boom. Throughout the 60s and 50s massive industrialization (hampered of course by the GLF and Cultural Revolution). Especially throughout the 1950s.

Barefoot doctors programs gave healthcare to hundreds of millions of people who had never had healthcare before in their lives. Little towns of 100 people in the middle of nowhere, finally got a doctor sent to them from one of the urban areas.

You also had for the first time in Chinese history (and possibly only time), full equal rights for women in China. These rights have been slowly eroded since Mao died. In China today, Women barely even have the right to own property through legal fuckery.

strongwindpress.com/pdfs/ebook/The_Battle_for_Chinas_Past.pdf

This is a book written by a historian who literally lived through the cultural revolution in a rural area. It shows a very different view of what went on compared to what you get from the western, urban expats and shows why Mao is still so loved in China.

>rural workers
I don't recall rural workers going to urban areas and doing urban work to understand that is not as easy as it seems.
>TIL I learned on Cred Forums, Feudalism didn't exist.
ok im out. you are baiting or far too retarded. Feudalism did exist but no one is saying people were happy under it or human nature did not take its cut. its like calming that no one in soviet union had self interest but when being called out on it going "TIL I learned on Cred Forums, stalinism didn't exist."

and Im saying you are delusional and have a simplistic mind, not every failed policy is communism

>I don't recall rural workers going to urban areas and doing urban work to understand that is not as easy as it seems.

it was much easier than rural work.

Here is what Chinese urban workersr call "Rural workers"

Tamen suzhi di - Rural workers. Quite literally translated "Low quality people"

Urban workers - $16,475 annual wage
Rural workers - $800 annual wage and near double the hours.

> but no one is saying people were happy under it or human nature did not take its cut.

No such thing as human nature. People were largely happy working under it, it's why it existed for thousands of years. Their faith kept them going. The King and aristocrats were literally appointed by god.

is that what eaten media told you or did you get that from western traitors who think grass is always greener elsewhere?
>equal rights for women
The oldest meme of communism. showing fake equality to win a populist vote and then pulling things back or having a crunching economic situation where women can't stay equal

>This is a book written by a historian who literally lived through the cultural revolution in a rural area.
yeah and my grandma told me that stalin did not do anything wrong and "little ethnic cleansing would have been good for us, if only he had lived long enough to do it here" verbatim.

Living during that period doesn't mean that you have an accurate view of the situation. My grandma unironically claims that Bautista wasn't bad.

>it was much easier than rural work.
no it was not. the class delusion about the other side often goes both ways, poor get unreasonable hatred for anyone who is mildly better off in life, thinking they had an easy ride and never had to work for anything.
>No such thing as human nature.
people are animals and as such have their own nature.
>The King and aristocrats were literally appointed by god.
no one said that about aristocrats. fact you are saying this just shows how unfamiliar you are with western history. sword made people more complaint then any faith. by same logic you could say everyone was happy in american slavery because they got read passages about how god says to honor ones masters

Bakunin and the Anarchists said fifty years before the October Revolution that:
1. the dictatorship of the proletariat was a stupid fucking idea and would turn out to be more corrupt than the ruling bourgeoisie
2. that all the 'workers of the world' couldn't really be united based on their class status alone and that cliques would inevitably form on the basis of nationality, empowering some and alienating others
3. that statist centralization stripped out mechanisms that are vital for any form of productive and self-sustaining economic activity and would eventually leave the state with nothing to allocate

Sound familiar?

>you will never get to murder the Romanovs

Why even get out of bed.

>'workers of the world'
also a biggest joke is that lenin himself was rich and staline has not really worked a day(he did work in a newspaper,etc,revolution is work but you get what I mean) in his life, mostly leaving off his supporters. lenin did not even allow workers to reach leadership potions because he felt they would "sidetrack the movement with their petty concerns"

And yet Soviet Russia put the first man to orbit as well as the first satelite. Kindly explain.

>that statist centralization stripped out mechanisms that are vital for any form of productive and self-sustaining economic activity and would eventually leave the state with nothing to allocate
making them dependent on each other. That was usually the thinking behind replacing all crop in a state with citrus trees but logistical difficulties did not seem to have been considered. nor how unhelpful force interconnection can be or how it breeds resentment when you get shit parts from another state while you could have made it fine at home

MY DICK IS BIG. what is there to explain? They lost in the race for nukes and were overall in a competition with other counters. whims of the leadership have nothing to do with doctoring. also if you wish to point out scientific achievements as some proof of the system being good, working ,etc then you may as well skip the soviet union and start crying over the loss of nazi germany

How in hell were peasants not largely happy throughout feudalism? Capitalism nor anything resembling it, existed. They didn't know any better. They worked because of divine rights of kings. The major peasant revolt in 1381, was put down, by the King, basically envoking divine right.

>people are animals and as such have their own nature.

Which has zero to do with Capitalism, a system that has only existed since the early 19th century.
Capitalism is an ideological construct based around the material relations that came into being around the 1830s with the industrial revolution and the formation of labour markets.

>poor get unreasonable hatred for anyone who is mildly better off in life, thinking they had an easy ride and never had to work for anything.


Oh no, boo hoo, the poor rich people. So hard being hated by people who do 10x the work and earn literally nothing.

how about they produce their fucking own food?
If we'd feed them they will get fucking lazy because they know whitey gibz me 3 meals a day

Also if you think socialisim or communism is better, why not implent that into the starving countrys??

>They worked because of divine rights of kings
you are delusional

>Oh no, boo hoo, the poor rich people. So hard being hated by people who do 10x the work and earn literally nothing.
yes stock that hatred between classes.

Come on man, stop hating on fat people

Which honestly is the best system. Socialize things people can't shop around for (roads, firefighters, healthcare, etc) and privatize everything else.

They worked, under the feudal system, because of divine right of kings.

The entire system was built around divine right of kings. The peasants didn't rise up, because the king and by extension the aristocracy, had divine right.

Or go show me those capitalist "Get rich" relations in the year 857.

>The peasants didn't rise up
you are delusional

I still don't understand those libertarians that say the Free Market should take care of all the socialized aspects of society you listed

>Libertarians

youtube.com/watch?v=AVKDbpYQTa0

>you are delusional

Please, show me how Feudalism was a complete and utter failure because Peasants 100% of the time refused to work because "Muh Small business interests and incentives"

There were peasant revolts. They were generally around certain policies around taxation.

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It's like crossing the first hurdle first and then saying you won the race. Their tech became outdated and by the end they were literally hiding their own rockets because they weren't sure they would work (people found out when they kept exploding though)

When your share of the nazi rocket scientists run out and your population is experiencing a massive brain drain, you have a problem.

Uhh Russian Rocket Technology in the 1960s was more advanced than US rocket technology in the 1990s/2000s.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NK-33

Idiot. Don't talk about things you obviously know nothing about.