I want to see the best Japan has to offer from animation, what are some good anime films with more serious themes? Not modern cutesy kawaii senpai-kun shit.
So far I have seen
Millenium Actress
Grave of the Fireflies
Akira
Macross Plus
The Castle of Cagliostro
Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
Castle in the Sky
My Neighbor Totoro
Kiki's Delivery Service
Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
Howl's Moving Castle
The Wind Rises
Ponyo
So far I am impressed beyond my expectations and want to see more.
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Anime can never be kino, child of imd/v/. Even the so-called "great" ones do not so much as graze the aesthetic and philosophical heights of cinema and literature. It's a trash genre made for East Asian teenagers and white manchildren with short attention spans.
Jin-roh: The Wolf Brigade is some pretty good stuff,
They made a board literally just for people like you.
You're right, there is a board for discussion relating to movies. You're on it.
Wings of Honneamise
Only Yesterday
Junkers Come Here
Shin-Chan Movie 09
Patema inverted
When Marnie was there
Ghost in the Shell
Paprika
Thank you, added to my list.
Fuck off idiot
No I mean a board for rejects of Cred Forums from Cred Forums and Cred Forums like you. /wsr/ is a product of people being made insecure by Cred Forums
End of Evangelion, I used to huff cans of air duster and watch it to the point of depersonalization and psychosis, good times.
if you can ignore the imagery and focus more on the characters it's one of the must see anime films
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>posting a meme image
opinion discarded
>defending this shithole of a board
Bobby's In Deep
you could make some patreon$ with a time of eve essay
totes kino
You'd have to watch the Neo Genesis Evangellion series before you watch End of Evangellion, but I highly recommend it. Binged watched the series and the movies in two days and was blown away.
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>he browses /botnet/
Fucking kek. I bet you installed gentoo on a VM too just too see whats its like, didn't you? I hope for your sake you did a complete wipe of your pc computer
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they're my braincells fuck face
>ayn rand
>intellectual
lmao
What is even the point of this post user
What are you trying to say with this
No >Ghost in the shell
*were
If your not sick of miyazaki watch Porco Rosso. It's their best imo.
Don't browse Cred Forums
Don't lurk Cred Forums
Don't listen to Cred Forums
even if you have nothing to hide
Perfect Blue is the only anime movie I would recommend to a normalfag
>anime
>kino
Go back to Cred Forums.
>Ayn Rand
lol k
I visited Cred Forums once, it was a shit board
>sports
>the most entry level hobby in the planet that even African village children get into
>average IQ of 113
Shit, you're right. We'd better warn everyone going to see Kimi no Na wa that they are hallucinating, because anime movies don't actually exist.
Garden of words is stupid pretty.
Looks like filtered photo.
Perfect blue
that's about all it has going for it.
flimsy narrative typical of this director
That's painted based on a photo. Filtered photos don't look like that.
>Millenium Actress
doesn't get any better than this.
It's way too stylized to be a filter
They can look like that.
this
This is a short anime that used filtered photos for backgrounds.
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Also.
This is just lazy.
>average iq of 55
>the average video game player is mentally retarded
It was probably an artistic decision. Backgrounds like this are very rare.
A Wind Named Amnesia
Ai City
Angel Cop
Bounty Dog
Crusher Joe
Grey: Digital Target
Space Adventure Cobra
Venus Wars
HAHAHAHA GET FUCKED WEEBS. even garbage like ayn rand is better than your weeb trash
Anime is Japanese. It can't be weeb.
>200 good Japanese films
>100 good Korean films
>150 good Chinese films
>manchildren waste time on cartoons
angel's egg
Paranoia Agent
This thread is about anime (which partially falls under the category of Japanese films), not cartoons. Did you mean to post this in another thread?
>manchildren
They're actually children. See
Sarusuberi: Miss Hokusai
bit of a sleeper hit from last year
pretty comfy
My 3 must see anime are Ghost in the Shell, Jin-Roh, and Akira. Although I haven't seen a ton
depends what genre you're looking at.
for example older rpgs were heavily based on math and optimizing equipment loadouts.
this is still true for more modern rpgs, and some have even gone further and done things like having the player practically program the actions of party members in advance.
I don't understand what people see in Jin-Roh. Akira is also overrated but at least the music gives it a very unique atmosphere.
Check it out
Patema is the most overrated piece of shit generic animated movie I've ever seen.
>wwf
stopped reading there m8
I have never seen an anime that was well written or well directed.
It's literally just cape-shit level schlock, I don't understand why people obsess over it.
Belladonna of Sadness is the only anime of value
>Patema
>generic
Another example of how this word doesn't mean anything.
This is the "guilty by assocation" tactic. Capeshit is bad, and anime is arbitrarily associated with capeshit, so therefore anime is bad.
Tokyo Godfathers
Perfect Blue
Redline
End of Evangelion (only if you watch the series first)
Memories (it's 3 separate stories, I'm only really recommending the first which is called Magnetic Rose)
Ninja Scroll
Anime is shit.
>I'm only really recommending the first which is called Magnetic Rose
But the 3rd is the best you fucking faggot
Naruto
Then so is everything else.
>End of Evangelion (only if you watch the series first)
>watching anti art trash that rips off actual art
Kill yourself you philistine
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That's an inaccurate translation, it should be more along the lines of "I don't feel well"
Besides I don't see how you can shame Eva for this when a majority of modern media samples and references past works.
Colorful. This one's a beautiful hidden gem
Only Yesterday
Porco Rosso
Tokyo Godfathers (it's really not what the trailer makes it out to be, by the guy behind Millenium Actress, Satoshi Kon)
Perfect Blue (MUCH better than Paprika in my opinion, also by Satoshi Kon)
Pom Poko
Chie the Brat
Cowboy Bebop: Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Whisper of the Heart (I wasn't really paying attention when I watched it but it's probably good)
The Cat Returns
Summer Days with Coo
Also make sure to watch any other movie directed by Miyazaki or Takahata that I haven't mentioned.
Post the comparison of EoE and Stalker
If anime does something, it's bad. If Western media does the same thing, it's good.
Theres a czech war cinema it apes too
Studio Ghibli is actually good, their movies are masterpieces. And zelda is a great franchise. Just because it can be liked by normies doesn't mean it's bad.
You're bad at finding the good ones.
it's a generic piece of shit. It uses boring, very predictable tropes, the dialogue and even the setting is incredibly stupid. It's good if you're 12
eva is full of references, but I doubt Anno was aware of some obscure eastern european film.
The man was obsessed with a japanese toku show ffs, I doubt he was studying decades old films for this.
Any good cunnycore stuff?
No boku no pico stuff though please
>generic
This doesn't mean anything, as you already demonstrated.
I don't care about your pedantic bullshit. I think you got my message pretty well.
It's not pedantic, and there was no message for me to get.
yes there was. It's what you think about when you see the word "generic". Formulaic. Common. The established plot devices that have already been used way too much, that we all know and are bored of. I was very clear.
This one is a stretch
>It's what you think about when you see the word "generic". Formulaic. Common.
You didn't use the word according to that definition. Nobody does.
I don't give a fuck about your problems with the English language and how we currently use it. You understood what I said, unless you're retarded or aren't fluent in the language. Generic is synonymous with common. Google it.
>Nobody does
To put it simply, if nobody does, everyone does.
>You understood what I said
I understand that what you said doesn't mean anything.
>Generic is synonymous with common.
That's not how you used it.
>Google it.
I know what the word is supposed to mean. The problem is that you don't.
Who /m/ here
>I understand that what you said doesn't mean anything.
Yes it does, I'm 100% sure everyone who read that understood its meaning except a certain pedantic autist.
>Generic is synonymous with common
Yes it is. I said it's a common movie, with common tropes. Boring.
>I know what the word is supposed to mean. The problem is that you don't
Except you said the word doesn't have a meaning, while it clearly does. I used the word perfectly well just like everyone else. You're the only asshole here who has a problem with the use of the word. The word generic can be used in many different contexts, no matter how much it hurts your ass.
>Yes it does, I'm 100% sure everyone who read that understood its meaning except a certain pedantic autist.
There was no meaning.
>I said it's a common movie, with common tropes.
Which is factually incorrect.
>Except you said the word doesn't have a meaning, while it clearly does.
It technically does. In the dictionary. Which everyone ignores. So practically speaking the word has no meaning.
>You're the only asshole here who has a problem with the use of the word.
I didn't realize having a modicum of intelligence makes me an asshole.
>There was no meaning
Everyone who read it understood it and had no problem with it.
>Which is factually incorrect
Oh, so that's it. Your jimmies are rustled because I don't like your precious weaboo turd of a movie, but you haven't made a single counterargument. Instead, you focus on a word that was used perfectly well whether you like it or not.
>It technically does. In the dictionary. Which everyone ignores. So practically speaking the word has no meaning.
merriam-webster.com
Happy now that I played your pedantic bullshit game and proved you wrong?
>I didn't realize having a modicum of intelligence makes me an asshole.
>I'm above everyone else here because I have my own autistic definition of the word "generic" while everyone else use it to communicate something we all understand
You're pathetic.
>Everyone who read it understood it and had no problem with it.
Or so you think.
>Your jimmies are rustled because I don't like your precious weaboo turd of a movie
What weeaboo movie? I thought we were talking about Patema Inverted. Are you talking about something else then?
>it was used perfectly well.
It wasn't.
>Happy now that I played your pedantic bullshit game and proved you wrong?
You didn't.
>I'm above everyone else here because I have my own autistic definition of the word "generic" while everyone else use it to communicate something we all understand
I never said or implied I have my own definition for it.
>Or so you think
Nobody else has replied. So far everyone understood it except you.
>I thought we were talking about Patema Inverted.
That's right, the huge eyes, annoying voice, shitty sci-fi plot Patema Inverted. That's what we're talking about.
>It wasn't
Nice counterargument to prove it wasn't. You just saying it wasn't doesn't mean shit. It's not like you're an important person.
>You didn't
I did. Try explaining why I didn't or going back to school.
>I never said or implied I have my own definition for it
You're acting like you know the true definition of generic and nobody else does. As if you own the fucking word.
>Nobody else has replied. So far everyone understood it except you.
You cannot conclude from that that everyone understood you.
>That's right, the huge eyes, annoying voice, shitty sci-fi plot Patema Inverted. That's what we're talking about.
But you just said we're talking about some weeaboo movie. Which is it?
>Nice counterargument to prove it wasn't.
Patema isn't generic, so if you call it generic you are not using the word correctly.
>I did.
No you didn't.
>You're acting like you know the true definition of generic and nobody else does.
That's correct. But it doesn't mean I have my own definition.
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>You cannot conclude from that that everyone understood you.
Yes I can, mostly because it's not the first time I use it or read, and nobody has ever had a problem with it.
>But you just said we're talking about some weeaboo movie. Which is it?
Patema Inverted. Are you that deep in denial?
>Patema isn't generic, so if you call it generic you are not using the word correctly.
Again, no counterargument explaining why it isn't generic. It's a boring sci-fi setting and the same shitty love story you see everywhere.
>No you didn't
Do you not know how to mak a counterargument? Sorry to burst your bubble, but spouting "WRONG" at everything you disagree without offering any further discussion only works if you're in a hot debate in national TV and already have the followers to support you. It doesn't work here on Cred Forums, you're just being a butthurt snob weaboo.
>That's correct. But it doesn't mean I have my own definition.
Ok, Mr. Enlightened faggot. No one cares, and I'mm not playing the pedantic bullshit game again with you. It seems it turns you on.
>Yes I can
No you can't.
>Patema Inverted. Are you that deep in denial?
What denial? You started talking about some weeaboo movie that you never even named.
>Again, no counterargument explaining why it isn't generic.
There's nothing that needs explaining. It's obvious that there are not many movies with Patema's premise.
>Do you not know how to mak a counterargument?
You didn't prove me wrong.
>Ok, Mr. Enlightened faggot. No one cares
If you don't care then what are you doing here?
Pure samuraikino.
>entry level anime
I want Cred Forums to leave.
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Entry level doesn't mean bad.
Literally everyone but Cred Forums and the mod that starts with R does
You hyped for the new Patlabor movie?
Something only a Cred Forumsedditor would say.
>No you can't
Yes I can. And I explained why, and you replied with nothing of value to prove me wrong.
>What denial? You started talking about some weeaboo movie that you never even named.
I was talking from the beginning about Patema Inverted, and I did name it. Is your reading comprehension really that bad or am I falling for bait?
>You didn't prove me wrong
Yes I did. It's your job to explain why I'm not proving you wrong.
>If you don't care then what are you doing here?
I said no one cares about your bullshit pedantic definition of the word. And I'm shutting your bullshit down and proving you wrong. You can't seriously have such a terrible reading comprehension.
If it ends up being good I will be so fucking happy
What's your opinion on the second movie? I think Oshii had some great visual directing with the scene in which the JSDF wander around Japan, and the tunnel scene was great. The unjust war scene had some neat ideas, but I think that the movie could have expanded upon them a little bit more.
It's something someone who actually likes anime would say.
>Yes I can.
No you can't.
>I was talking from the beginning about Patema Inverted, and I did name it. Is your reading comprehension really that bad or am I falling for bait?
Patema is a Japanese movie.
>Yes I did.
No you didn't.
>I said no one cares about your bullshit pedantic definition of the word.
It's just the actual definition of the word. Which nobody uses.
>And I'm shutting your bullshit down and proving you wrong.
You haven't done any such thing.
Rurouni Kenshin - Samurai X
Yeah this.
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>movies that ape a trashy cartoon manage to make it more authentic too
Holy shit. Anime truly is the low IQ medium
TWBB is pleb dogshit though
>It's something someone who only watches entry level anime would say
fix'd
>No you can't.
Repeating the same shit won't get you anywhere, fedoraman.
>Patema is a Japanese movie
enjoyed by weaboos like you
>It's just the actual definition of the word. Which nobody uses.
No it's not. I linked the actual definition, which I used, correctly.
>You haven't done any such thing
Yes I have. I think I may be just wasting my time by replying to a person so far on the spectrum.
Studio Ghibli isn't entry level anime. It's just a different type of japanese animation that can be enjoyed by everyone, including normies and betas.
I don't watch only entry level anime.
>enjoyed by weaboos like you
I'm not a weeaboo, and what does this have to do with what I said?
>No it's not. I linked the actual definition
The actual definition you linked to is the definition that I am talking about, and also the definition that you are not using.
>Yes I have.
No you haven't.
>an anime thread that turned into two retards arguing with each other
Such a surprise.
t. tasteless plebeian
How am I a tasteless plebeian?
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Movies:
Tale of the Princess Kaguya
Macross Plus: Movie Edition
Escaflowne: The Movie
Patlabor: The Movie
Patlabor 2
Dirty Pair: Project Eden
Time of Eve
OVA:
Kite
Cobra the Animation
Bubblegum Crisis
Dirty Pair
Otaku no Video
Series:
Noir
Patlabor TV series
Yamato 2199
Space Adventure Cobra
Kino's Journey
Heat Guy J
The Vision of Escaflowne
Ergo Proxy
Dirty Pair
Space Cobra
When They Cry
>Pleb Dandy
Found the Cred Forums kiddy
Just because Cred Forums likes it doesn't mean it's bad, Steven kun.
>it's an 'Cred Forums thinks their gook toons have depth' episode
please enlighten me to the patrician genius of monster musume and umaru
Some of them have depth, some of them don't. It also depends on what definition of depth you are using.
>I'm not a weeaboo
Yes you are.
>The actual definition you linked to is the definition that I am talking about, and also the definition that you are not using.
You haven't talked about any definition. I have. Correctly.
>No you haven't.
yes I have. Go fuck yourself.
>Yes you are.
You are either lying or don't know what the word means.
>You haven't talked about any definition. I have. Correctly.
But you don't actually use the definition.
>yes I have.
No you haven't.
>You are either lying or don't know what the word means.
You are either in denial or don't know what the word means.
>But you don't actually use the definition.
Yes I do.
>No you haven't.
Claro que sÃ. Jódete.
Do I have to type in another language for you to understand?
>You are either in denial or don't know what the word means.
I know what it means, and there's nothing to be in denial of. I'm not a weeaboo.
>Yes I do.
No you don't.
This
Porco Rosso is his most fun and rewatchable film. The dubbed version is far superior too so you dont have to read the whole time
>Macross
>Patlabor
I'll never understand mecha anime, just as I'll never understand the appeal of Star Wars. All I see is "kool robot fighting pew pew pew :D"
But maybe there's something I'm missing, it's hugely popular for a reason I guess.
>yes I can
>no you can't
>yes I can
>yes I did
>no you can't
>no you didn't
>no it's not
>yes I have
>I'm not
>no you haven't
>you are
>yes I have fuk u
>you don't
>yes I have
>yes I do
>no you don't
are you two some kind of shitposting bot script or just autism soulmates
>literature
>all 5 examples are high school essential readings
KEK
One of the guys is an autist that usually replies to every post and then cries that Cred Forums doesn't want him here
I can't believe someone finally agrees with me on this. Everyone says Spirited Away is the best, and I understand it's a great film, but I have so much more great memories about Porco Rosso. And to think its concept was originally going to be used just for an airplane security guide
at first I provided an argument, but I got sick of his effortless bullshit and just played along.
Anything by:
Masaaki Yuasa
Hayao Miyazaki
Mamoru Oshii
Satoshi Kon
Kunihiko Ikuhara
Patlabor isn't about robots fighting. The movies for example have hardly any such scenes. I don't watch a lot of mecha anime but it seems like the robot fights are usually a sideshow, not the point.
I thought Paprika was pretty shit.
any cute cunnies doing cute thing animus?
>being this much of a faggot
Lighten up, bitch.
If you want "cunnies" go watch Western movies and shows.
Yeah, Satoshi's movies are amazing but I just didn't see the point of Paprika. It felt like a meaningless trip about dreams and shit.
It's hit or miss with people. I think its because a lot just get lost with the story which is done on purpose. Still looks amazing though and has a ton of imagination.
wtf this is illegal in my cuntry u knob -____-*
>implying you could make highschool students read Ulysses
>Just because it's liked by kids who only watch entry level shit doesn't mean it's bad
Can you explain rationally what makes an anime bad just because the "wrong" people like it in the West?
Go by directors.
Satoshi Kon, Hayao Miyazaki, Isao Takahata (and Ghibli in general), Katsuhiro Otomo, Mamoru Oshii, Makoto Shinkai, Hiroyuki Okiura, Mamoru Hosoda.
You can also check some movies from Rintaro or Osamu Dezaki, although normally they are based on a tv series. Some TV series have awesome movies that you don't need to watch the series for (of course, it's better if you do, but not necessary), for instance Cowboy Bebop. Some movies were summaries of the whole series, Galaxy Express comes to mind. Arcadia of my Youth is another great movie; movies in general based on Leiji Matsumoto's creations were excellent, at least up to the 80s.
I recently watched The Great Adventure of Horus, Prince of the Sun and I loved it.
... Uh, yes, that's what I mean. That's like saying Kubrick movies are shit just because some normies like them now.
Don't forget Keiichi Hara. Watch Colorful if you haven't. Also watched Horus recently, it was so much better than I expected. Really fun watch.
also, watch Chie the Brat and Pom Poko (both by Takahata) if you haven't. Obscure and underrated gems.
As someone else said, Patlabor isn't about it.
Macross is about it. And kool robot fighting pew pew pew is actually the appeal of the genre.
>Patlabor 2
>mecha pew pew
There's literally a single scene with the mechs, discounting the training sequence at the start
>5 hours for this off-topic trash
Are you happy now, /qa/ professional victim?
General consensus before murricans polluted Occident's fanbase was that his best is Nausicaa.
Nah, Space Dandy is geared towards the lowest common denominator, so think capeshit or the Fast and Furious movies.
what's it about then? sorry for my ignorance, I know next to nothing about Patlabor
How is it geared towards the lowest common denominator? And do you realize that lowest common denominator does not necessarily have a negative meaning?
"Lowest common denominator" has become just another cliche that people bring out when they can't come up with any real arguments.
Hey OP, just in case you're still here, I just want to recommend Tatami Galaxy. Its not a film, but its only 11 episodes and it goes by quick. People say its a meme show but its interesting enough to warrant watching it. Stay cool.
I watched a few episodes and I liked it. I liked Samurai Champloo much more though. And I don't know a single person who likes capeshit or Fast and Furious that also likes Space Dandy.
Space Dandy is a show genetically engineered to appeal to imdbspawn Cred Forumsedditors with no sense of sophistication who laud meme dialog, which supports upvote groupthink mentality and meme acting with a good show pandering reddit tier post-capeshit "entertainment" sensibilities and a meme aesthetic. This is a garbage at best and is rightfully deemed as pleb trash every time it gets brought up.
How about you just watch the movies.
I've seen:
Summer Wars
Wolf Children
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time
The Children Who Chase Lost Voices
5 Centimeters Per Second
The Garden of Words
Colorful
Princess Mononoke
A Letter to Momo
Spirited Away
Howl's Moving Castle
Castle in the Sky
Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
My Neighbor Totoro
Kiki's Delivery Service
The Wind Rises
Ponyo
My Neighbors the Yamadas
Grave of the Fireflies
Porco Rosso
Arriety
From Up On Poppy Hill
The Cat Returns
The Boy and the Beast
The Tales of Earthsea
When Marnie Was There
The Place Promised in our Early Days
Pom Poko
Paprika
Tokyo Godfathers
Origin: Spirits of the Past
Whisper of the Heart
any recommendations? I enjoy those with nice visuals but I don't mind sci-fi or spiritual/supernatural stuff.
>tfw I'm not a big anime viewer but now that I've listed the films, I've seen more than I thought I had.
Kihachiro Kawamoto
I can't defend Space Dandy because I haven't watched it much, but the "Cred Forums likes it so it's bad" argument is bullshit.
If you're above 20 and enjoy its puerile humor, then you've got problems.
>lowest common denominator does not necessarily have a negative meaning
Something only a pleb would say.
Watch actual film
>not a big anime viewer
>has seen nearly every Ghibli film
Jin-Roh: Wolf Brigade is pretty lit. Same goes with anything made by Oshii. And watch Perfect Blue too, which I thought you would have seen considering you've seen Kon's other films
Pasta, but there's truth to it.
Millenium Actres, Perfect Blue, Cagliostro, Summer Days with Coo, Horus, Chie the Brat
>The films in this chart are intended to be enjoyed by watchers of a sufficient cinematic IQ
It's basically about police officers solving crimes and crisis situations with or without mecha, while dealing with politics and red tape.
Space Dandy is an omnibus show made by many different people. Many episodes aren't even humorous, or not particularly so.
>Something only a pleb would say.
Something someone capable of rational thinking would say.
I know a lot of people who love Ghibli but hate anime. That's why I consider Ghibli its own genre instead of entry level anime
alright, I'll check it out then, sounds interesting enough
>implying I don't
>implying the true patrician doesn't appreciate any film both live action or otherwise
the Ghibli films are the easiest to find as they are more "mainstream" so to speak, and I'm not familiar with directors or what to look for. Usually, I will be at a place like Amoeba Music browsing movies and if I see an anime film that seems interesting, I do a google search for quick reviews before buying. So far, I've had a lot of good luck watching good anime films.
>I know a lot of people who love Ghibli but hate anime.
Beginning with Miyazaki himself.
There is non-Ghibli anime that is similar to Ghibli. People are just comparing Ghibli against something like Dragonball or some stereotype of anime they have in their heads.
Protip: Patlabor started with a series of OVAs, and was followed by two movies. The OVAs probably aren't required viewing. The TV series is a completely separate continuity and was followed by a second set of OVAs. The third movie is a spin-off that doesn't have much to do with the series.
>>implying I don't
What did you think of Maesta and Innocence of Memories? Both are patrician live action film and based on your post you should have seen them so lay it on me, big boy
Spirited Away is his most imaginary I'd say but the plot is weak and leaves you hanging with more questions than answers.
Nausicaa is my #4 favorite
I go
1. Porco Rosso
2. Princess Mononoke
3. Spirited Away
4. Nausicaa
5. Kiki's Delivery Service
6. Castle of Cagliostro
7. Castle in the Sky
8. Wind Rises
9. Ponyo
10 My Neighbor Totoro
11. Howl's Moving Castle
Space Dandy is the most artistic TV anime of the decade pleb
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I agree, but I still find that an odd statement considering how so many Miyazaki films are filled with a bunch of weird stuff (pig flying a plane, tons of yokai, or Ponyo). But they're accessible so maybe that's why.
>There is non-Ghibli anime that is similar to Ghibli
but they're a very small amount.
>People are just comparing Ghibli against something like Dragonball or some stereotype of anime they have in their heads.
But stereotypes exist for a reason. I can easily find anime similar to Dragon Ball, wouldn't say the same about Ghibli.
kek, watching some obscure film from some literally who director doesn't automatically give the film patrician cred
I don't know if Nausicaa if his best work or not, but I love Kiki too much. I don't care if it's inferior to others. My favorites are:
1. Kiki
2. Nausicaa
3. Chihiro
4. Porco Rosso
5. Totoro
6. Laputa
7. Cagliostro
8. Mononoke
I won't even rank Howl, I think it's way too weak compared to the others. And I still didn't watch Ponyo and Wind Rises.
do you like everything related to Patlabor? Is everything worth watching, even if they don't require an order, or just the movies?
>But stereotypes exist for a reason.
Doesn't mean it's a good reason. Nearly everything people believe about anime is untrue.
Neither of those are obscure and the director of the latter isn't a "literally who"
This is extremely strange considering you referred to yourself as a true patrician. Am I to believe you're actually not what you say and just another Cred Forums kiddie from Cred Forums?
>comparing a tv series thats been running for 20 years to films
I understand that the Japanese call both tv shows and movies "anime" if they're animated, but come on
Everything except WXIII (movie 3) is good and worth watching.
eh, are there anime or some ghibli like movies I haven't heard about yet? Because from my knowledge they're pretty scarce, so I find myself agreeing with what people believe about anime lots of times.
>Space Dandy is a comedy
>this is what Cred Forums actually believes
The thing with anime is that most of it is shit they come with to fill a slot in the TV schedule. Formulaic crap (nowadays usually moe) where quality isn't the concern. But isn't that the same for tv series? In fact, how many actually good tv series would we have nowadays if it wasn't for HBO and Netflix?
I don't think there's anything that should be skipped, except maybe for the third movie. It's a pretty good movie but hardly related to Patlabor. It's optional.
howl is a chore to sit through. ponyo is his most kid friendly movie. wind rises is ok but long and oscar bait
I don't understand the point of this. If its saying your hobby is for people of low IQ, then switching hobbies won't change your IQ, so you might as well just stick with what your at.
The robots can tie into the story. I think the original gundam is a good example of it being used well. At first the protagonist is a dumb kid who relies on the gundams power to do well. Then over time he becomes a better pilot and improves to the point where he is fighting mecha that outstrip the gundam in power. The gundam in this case allows for a scaling of the characters growth, growing up from a boy who relies on having the strongest tool, to a trained soldier who makes the best use of his tool.
Furthermore, mecha are just cool. They symbolise humanities growth. In these universes, humanity has grown so powerful that it can make moving metal gods in its own image.
There's varity in how mecha appeals to different people too. For example, in VOTOMS the mecha are cool because they're numerous and disposable. The director of that show talked about this in an interview, stating that he was ibspired by how much surplus millitary stuff was left over in Japan like jeeps. The disposable nature of thr mecha in VOTOMS lends itself to an atmosphere in which nothing is safe, or sacred. It's very dirty and oily. On the other side of the spectrum, you have mecha that act like super heroes. Evas are cool because they're mysterious and one of a kind. They're like walking gods. The fact that there's only three of them can create some tense situations in which the characters have to make do with limited capabilties when one is damaged.
Of course there's also the fact that they make good toys.
In terms of viewing order, there's 2 timelines (going by the back of the Bluray cases)
Movie Timeline:
Original OVA series -> Patlabor The Movie -> WXIII: Patlabor 3 -> Patlabor 2
Television Timeline:
Television Series -> The New Files
Can someone describe what "Ghibli-like" is? Cause its been thrown around in this thread a lot and I don't know what its supposed to mean
People who say Ghibli-like probably just mean Miyazaki-like since Takahata's films are very different
whimsy instead of sexborgs and exploding concrete
I personally mean "Miyazaki or Takahata-like".
Mai Mai Miracle, Flying Witch, Wolf Children, A Letter to Momo, Oblivion Island, Children Who Chase Lost Voices, Amanchu, Yokohama Shopping Log, Gingitsune, Kamichu, Non Non Biyori and Tamayura are some anime that more or less remind me of Ghibli (some much more than others, e.g. Flying Witch is really obviously inspired by Ghibli).
>anime is only sexborgs and exploding concrete
a lot of the time, yea. reason why people still see the medium being for boys and manchildren. if everyday people saw Tokyo Godfathers that would change.
The reasons why people have certain perceptions about anime have very little to do with what kind of anime exists.
That's what most shounen is about. In mecha the robots are used for character growth. In martial arts anime it's going to be the refinement of their techniques and learning new things. Same in sports, it's more often than not that the main character gets to the sport by chance (Touch, Slam Dunk, Hajime no Ippo) and through practice he learns to understand and love the sport he plays more, and it even becomes a tool that improves his social life.
The pilot of a robot usually finds his place in society and hones his skills throughout the run of the series. It gives him a reason to be, same as others find it in sports, art, science, any other discipline or craft. A way to socialize and to be of use to society. But anyone who doesn't understand that about mecha anime doesn't understand what shounen anime is about at all.
it seems to me the loudest voices in the anime community appreciate fine storytelling like naruto and DBZ, run around hotel ballrooms in pink wigs, and collect plastic figurines.
Or its a large community of insufferable faggots who collect figurines and only watch slice-of-life romance shows
Maybe people shouldn't be using fans or perceived fans as a proxy for evaluating whatever it is that they are fans of.
If I took the anime community seriously I don't think I would even watch anime.
Basically this. Having the kid fall into the cockpit forces responsibility upon them and forces them to grow.
Robots also give directors an excuse to talk about war and conflict. It's easier to sell a war drama as an animation to the executives if you include some flashy robots to sell as toys. For example, Dougram could work as a war story about guerillas hiding out in the bush. But it's harder to sell that to Sunrise execs so they include robots to sell it to kids. There are some episodes in which the robot fights only last a few minutes because the director wanted to talk about the settings economics or politics.
Originally Mobile Suit Gundam wasn't going to have mecha at all, only power armour. However Tomino was told that the aforementioned armour had to be at least 15 meters tall or the show wouldn't get made.
I'm just saying that I find it unsurprising that normal people would think anime is stupid after seeing the kind of shit that happens at anime conventions
Anime pros don't deal with "executives" like their counterparts in America do, and most mecha anime these days is late night anime.
Gundam's great success had nothing to do with toys, it was the model kits and the series itself (as a story) that made it a success.
Most of them are kids going through a phase. Many of them eventually diverge and, even though they might still watch a shitty anime or two, stop being active in the community.
But honestly, what do we expect kids tastes to be about? Kids usually like shitty music, watch teenage drama tv crap, of course that they'll like the worst anime has to offer. It's only natural they won't go for Ghibli or Kon or whoever else you might think about, they'll watch whatever is trendy inside their niche and that's about it.
Dragon Ball Z Kai
DBZ is as entry level as it gets but it doesn't stop it from being kino. You can progress to the superior shonen Yu Yu Hakusho once you're finished
Gundam would never have been made in the first place if it wasn't for toys though.
You are correct about its success though
Flip Flappers is pure kino
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>Gundam would never have been made in the first place if it wasn't for toys though.
That was the model back then, but Gundam changed it.
It's weird, if nothing else. The first episode doesn't tell you anything about what it's about or what's going on.
>hipster/pretentious books&plays
>high IQ
>fucking sports not being at the very bottom
This should be bait, but some faggot from /lit/ probably made this image to stroke his own ego.