New Adam Curtis Documentary, HyperNormalization

It's up!
bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04b183c/adam-curtis-hypernormalisation

trailer:
youtu.be/AUiqaFIONPQ

Anyone got a megaupload for non-Bongs? I think youtube-dl works on BBC iplayer.

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zooqle.com/bbc-adam-curtis-hypernormalisation-webrip-x264-mctv-vfr7t.html
tomscott.com/infinite-adam-curtis/
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>Curtis Vs SJWs

BASED AS FUCK

>Adam Curtis
I love it already. I don't keep up with this stuff and I'm glad when you bring it to my attention

torrent when

Someone rip and torrent this shit asap. I aint no FUCKIN' BONG

CALLING ALL BRITBONGS!
Use this tool to rip the video!
rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/

If you're running Linux, it should be in your distro's official repos.

In for waiting for some bong to rip it

Where would I upload it to? I can't into torrenting

mega

uhh those files just open a cmd window then disappear. I can't do anything complex, I've had half a bottle of whisky.

[Adam Curtis' voice] But this was a fantasy.....

In reality...

youtube.com/watch?v=x1bX3F7uTrg

Curtis is just a Youtube video-essayist with a BBC budget.

>[Brian Eno Intensifies]

Bumping this thread for a stream. I've been waiting for this

Just finished it and it is absolutely brilliant

Yea sure and all of the BBC's film archive ...what are you dense?

fuck, I was thinking about Bitter Lake a couple days ago, and I really hoped that he'd make some new stuff. Didn't know about that, today feels like christmas

You aren't following me, dear. No matter.

You don't make much sense dear...

Extremely excited to watch this as soon as a non-bong upload is available. I'm going to get comfy like pic related.

if I wasn't going out tonight, I'd be setting up a VPN to download this.

Use Beebs on Chrome

While this parody is funny there is an offputting sense of butthurt throughout the video.

i'll summarise it for you.

literally everything in the world in random order. Ergo Trump

I'll give it a shot later tonight. Thanks user for the tip user.

Holy moly I did not know about this. Thank you user!

no problemo . enjoy

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enjoy m8

fake

I kinda feel bad for Gadaffi now. He just wanted to feel important

Holy shit I need this, damn. WHEN????

Use the iplayer download app, its easy to set up, please

his Edward Bernays docu made me think

The Loving Trap is a parody for people who can't see past Adam Curtis' storytelling skills, instead they feel duped by them. Believing their own partial understanding of the documentary series to be the truth behind the author's exposition, they see conspiracies everywhere in his work. It's really ironic considering that AC's docs usually portray people who develop and act upon half truths on the nature of society and power finally being proven tragicomically mistaken by the course of history that their ideas helped inspire.
That and the big bold Helvetica in all-caps-typed-intertitles that its detractors somehow miss to understand or see.

why should i watch this

not trolling

Anybody else reminded of Pynchon? Feels like half this stuff could be straight outta Bleeding Edge

Doesn't work for me

Nice, thx.

I'll definitely get into Pynchon now.

because adam curtis is one of the best documentary makers of all time

I just finished watching it, anyone else?

I would like to discuss it, but as a britbong who could view it with ease, I'm worried that I'll end up missing all the threads, etc. relating to this as others are prob only just managing to get their hands on it now.

ACIDF pls go

Lads...

The parody was designed to identify the stupid. The averagely dull would simply not get it, the deeply dim would think it was a piece of real critique, and the spectacularly boneheaded would actually write a comment of complaint.

some curtis to keep you entertained until torrent
youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM

>3 hours long

lol who has time for this

youtube.com/watch?v=_Eh7_cyBs28

I have tried everything to watch it, different vpns, that beebs extension everyone seems to be embracing, nothing works.
Just hit I have one and thats it, they dont ask for a serial number or anything else
Why boneheaded tho? Adam Curtis' ideas should be widely explored with real challenging critique, that kind of shit just inhibits discussion.

How didn't know about this? Thanks OP, gonna watch this tomorrow.

Beebs works if you have the ability to refresh the page a few times and be patient for once in your miserable existence.

Finished it. Pretty good, better than Bitter Lake in that it didn't have really long stretches with nothing being said and random footage of dancing Arabs. Just overweight American girls, this time.

That said, it didn't really have much new to say, felt like Bitter Lake and Century of the Self mixed together, kind of. With the internet mixed in.
Really entertaining though. I think I need to go and think about it more before I have anything interesting to say.

bitter lake was really dule for such an interesting subject

Yeah, Bitter Lake felt like an experiment.

Like I say, there's no long gaps in this one, it's relentless, it bombards you with information the entire time til you feel like your head's gonna explode.

This is more like a normal Adam Curtis show, just stretched to 3 hours long.

Was what he was saying about the internet "true"?

He made it sound as if those with power turned cyber space into a place where your ideals are reflected back onto you. But surely its just human nature more than anything to seek out like minded people on social media, etc. to create your own version of a safe space.

oh joy anti trump propoganda

Im watching it right now.

lmao, at picrelated. Americans are the most disgusting people

In what way is it anti-Trump?

America is the vehicle through which Satan enters the world, and the eternal anglo is his midwife

It definitely is on Facebook, it makes sense that a site would turn into your own personal hugbox so you stick around and click ads more. Youtube does this as well. If you watch one political vid on youtube your suggestion box will be full of identical ones.

Twitter is more difficult, you see everything there but a lot of people just block what they don't want to see.

what is it even about? Racist americans?

>expecting anything else
Curtis is a run of the mill BBC shitlib

please rip it for us?

It's about how the real world has become too complex to understand/predict/influence. As such, politicians cannot solve real-world issues. Instead they construct simplistic narratives which offer equally simplistic, voter-pleasing answers. The problem arises when real-world policy is being constructed to solve fictional problems.

I liked it but the ending was a total let down

It felt like 2.5 hours of buildup but the actual stuff about Putin/Trump/Brexit/Syria felt completely tacked on at the end. I think it needed another two hours and at least another year so that we can see how this stuff plays out. Really disappointing that he didn't go into anything to do with Ukraine, the refugees or the Eurozone crisis.

You can tell that the stuff that's there is stuff he's been talking about a lot, the parts about the computer systems are on his blog and the Putin stuff was already in the Charlie Brooker yearly wipes. I think in the end the enormity of what he was trying to convey, that the world has essentially become too vastly complicated and interconnected for individuals and politicians to truly influence and control, has overwhelmed him.

Its fucking annoyinbg tho, every 5 minutes needs a refresh, its shit.

Curtis spent most of his earlier docs shitting on the Clinton Administration and the New Labour Party under Blair.

It was a self-defeating premise. You can't create a documentary that explains that the world can't be explained. Any satisfying ending would've become unsatisfying the moment you thought about it.

Thank you for a summary free of politics and agenda. Are you sure you know where you are? The current internet is not a place for thoughtful, fact-based statements.

I kinda felt like that too, I get the feeling that maybe he wasn't able to create a unifying ending, and so used Trump and Brexit as a "See, this is what happens when people are confused and fed bullshit all the time" ending.

The other option would have been just to end somewhere, and that would have been perhaps more of a let down.

He's a self announced neocon

it's been on PTP for over an hour now

You think he would make a doc explaining how the UK, 99% white in 1945, became a rapefest for muds by the 21st century?
He's just an old leftist.

uh, no he isn't.

>It's up!

Torrent when?

From what I understand, not really. It's about how Trump lies to the public and people know he's lying but don't care.

It's a pro-Hillary piece.

passthepopcorn? fucking private trackerfags. someone put this shit on mega or piratebay.

>People often accuse me of being a lefty. That's complete rubbish. If you look at The Century of the Self, what I'm arguing is something very close to a neoconservative position because I'm saying that, with the rise of individualism, you tend to get the corrosion of the other idea of social bonds and communal networks, because everyone is on their own. Well, that's what the neoconservatives argue, domestically. [...] If you ask me what my politics are, I'm very much a creature of my time. I don't really have any. I change my mind over different issues, but I am much more fond of a libertarian view. I have a more libertarian tendency [...] What's astonishing in our time is how the Left here has completely failed to come up with any alternatives, and I think you may well see a lefty libertarianism emerging because people will be much more sympathetic to it, or just a libertarianism, and out of that will come ideas. And I don't mean "localism"


>He believes the Western world is haunted by the past, with no vision for the future, and that it has become pessimistic and backward-looking.

...

Also, if he's still alive in 20 years, we'll get a documentary on the Russo/American nuclear war and how good, innocent people were duped by da system in to supporting Clinton.

He's switched from Helvetica to Arial for this new one.

He drew comparisons with the failure of the 60s leftists movements and todays leftist movements. Hillary wasn't mentioned at all and Trump was only mentioned in the context of a political theory.

lmao was about to post ..thank you .

Seems like a very narrow subject, but I could see him making a doc about the mass migration into europe and how it happened and the terrible effect it has had on everything. That is, without making it sound like a Cred Forums tier documentary

>It's about how Trump lies to the public and people know he's lying but don't care.
It's more about how every politicians lies, and everyone knows it, but no one knows how to deal with that fact and can't imagine a future where it isn't happening.

Interesting.

Judging from his past work, the trailer and one of the clips I thought we were going to get;

>Trump is a result of the system built by the establishment being used against it

He's generally into unforeseen consequences and "fool-proof" systems spinning out of control.

Oh well, torrent when...

I could see it happening just the question of when.

>I could see him making a doc about the mass migration into europe and how it happened and the terrible effect it has had on everything

No, because
>the terrible effect it has had on everything
would be the end of his career and damage him socially. He does multimedia events with Massive Attack ffs.

Its good. It uses a few of his blog posts (the assad/syrian ones and gaddafi one) and it also uses bits from his Massive Attack film which sadly hasnt surfaced online. I think the russian punk footage is used in his Massive Attack film thing.

>but I could see him making a doc about the mass migration into europe and how it happened and the terrible effect it has had on everything.
I can see Slavoj Zizek making this one day.
But in the end he'll still support it anyway or some shit.

>It's about how Clinton lies to the public and people know he's lying but don't care.
FTFY

This.

1. He most likely believes that mass migration and open borders is a great thing.

2. He would never work again with BBC or even establishment private funding.

But mostly number 1.

>Trent Reznor track plays
which docs do this?

Bitter Lake has this in it a lot
youtube.com/watch?v=MN6sfJ1qFQg

>
It shows that what has happened is that all of us in the West - not just the politicians and the journalists and the experts, but we ourselves - have retreated into a simplified, and often completely fake version of the world. But because it is all around us we accept it as normal.

Wait a minute I thought BBC was blue pill dealer

fucking based
most underrated TDS song

Maybe you have a point. I might give it another 5-10 years when the effects really start to show rather than now where everyone has a fake smile plastered on their face. Even now I start to see the people who welcome these migrants in wince with disgust every time a news story appears of a "migrant rape/murder", but they still continue to keep the narrative alive.

In my opinion, as cliche as it sounds, Curtis has always been against "the power" in general. The type of corrupting power that abuses the people and transcends political parties.

>Seems like a very narrow subject
It's THE subject, with enormous ramifications. No more Newtons or Turings after population replacement.

All watched over by machines of loving grace is his best piece

cool use of a This Mortal Coil / Emmylou Harris song in the trailer.

Anyone who agrees with Cred Forums and masturbates over dumb politics pushing documentaries needs to get their anus checked imho

>hurr politics in confusing and Im scared of being proven wrong, so I will take a normal fag middle ground none position and say everyone is dumb and act superior!

kill yourself

>Adam Curtis is Cred Forums

fuck off yank

I'd have liked if he mentioned how SJWs kind of moved in on occupy (most of his footage has them doing "jazz hands" for example) though I guess it doesn't really have relevance to the overall narrative.

SJWs are just an embodiment of the parasitic individualism that runs through the thing. (Not a collectivist, I just want to distinguish between some kind of "good" individualism, and the kind that serves only to weaken for vanity purposes, particularly common on the left since it maintains a facade of collectivism while fundamentally being very me-me-me.)

I feel more bad for him now that I'm looking at him as a strange pawn.

I've always had a strange empathy for dictators who get overthrown and hurt badly. I think it's because as a boy raised on Age of Empires, I used to fantasise about being such a leader, and not yet having developed a complex political philosophy the most appealing system for me was an explicit "I say it, you do it" dictatorship instead of some avant-garde Putin theatre machine.

I mean what was he supposed to do other than fight back? Flee?

Never said that. I was talking about the thread

Like this post right here.

I'm actually in university, currently being brainwashed by evil cultural Marxist liberal (lol) lies. Honestly isn't that bad.

You're the wussy for not being able to handle people who disagree with you on the television board.

Makes it feel like you're pushing an agenda

He was actually in a relatively strong position until the west intervened. He lost control of the east but if we hadn't started the air strikes he would have probably fought to a stalemate.

If he could angle it right, a jaunty little bit about how mass immigration for political reasons backfired on New Labour would be quite funny.

But really, overall, immigration is just a symptom and not a root problem. Consider that even before Blair, England was less than 90% white.

Occupy was doomed to fail in the first place. The only way change can occur these days is through terrorism. That's why its so popular.

There was some libyan poster on Cred Forums months ago that really said some insightful things about Libya and how it became what it is today. Gaddafi tried to stand up to the West and perished because of it. I wish I saved that thread.

W-we had to do that, he was giving his troops viagra to rape his enemies into submission!!

If you were wondering who the man and woman who got tied up and shot at the beginning were, it was Nicolae Ceaușescu and his wife.

That says he's a Libertarian, though, not a neocon. It says he was arguing something like a neoconservative position, but that he considers himself as something closer to libertarian.

Though (being a sort of vaguely social democratic guy who wishes that the Conservatives had won Britain's 1974 election for complex reasons that would hopefully have lead to a less globalized world) I'm quite fond of the neoconservative "noble lie" kind of idea and vision for religion in that way. I wouldn't personally advocate it.

>The only way change can occur these days is through terrorism
I don't agree. Actually with regard to many movements, a strategy I've been quite fond of envisioning is to take up terrorist actions in the name of a cause you hate, because then you discredit it in the eyes of the general public.

I would say however that change feels like it must be chaotic, and as such I'm also becoming increasingly drawn to harbingers of chaos come what may. On an impractical level, I was drawn to Brexit and Trump simply because they aren't the option that happens when EVERYTHING IS GOING ACCORDING TO PLAN, even if on another level I'm seriously fucking terrified that we've got Theresa "Snooper's Charter" May at the helm of the UK instead of call-me-dave.

Hopefully we'll just smash shit up and then we can build something on the ruins.

I am the same. I was really enticed with Brexit and Trump just on the pure basis of its SOMETHING different. With Trump though, the dream started wearing thin. I see a Trump victory as a new age of even greater Neo-cons than before. I've seen this "USA/Russia" partnership shit before with Bush and Putin. It was just fake smiles and friendly handshaking at world events. Same with Yeltsin and Clinton.

He peddles the 'Tutsis were invented by Belgians to divide and conquer' bs in that.
But in reality...
blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/08/tutsi-differ-genetically-from-the-hutu/#.WAQmUeUrLIU

He didn't say there were invented he said that the Belgians purposefully played them off against each other, which they did.

>The only way change can occur these days is through terrorism
Change doesn't happen because people aren't desperate enough to want it.

The West is gradually being pushed towards desperation though, the economy is going fairly well with low unemployment(apart from Greece and a few other countries) but the UK still voted for Brexit, Trump will get 40%+ (though he'll probably lose) & extremist parties are gaining throughout Europe.

Once the next recession hits in ~5 years and unemployment starts rising again, the 'extreme change' options are going to be getting massive support. It'll only take one to create a domino effect where each extreme election result/referendums/protests trigger further economic instability, leading to depressed growth and even greater extremism in other nations.

>staaaaaaanding rooom only
>boat full of standing refugees tips
oh my i should not be laughing but i am oh dear oh me oh my oh no.

So no MEGA or torrent link yet?

I have faith user will deliver

People want it. They just don't have any gripping vision of what it is.

One fascinating minor detail for me is the Scottish referendum on independence. Even though it failed, it took it from a fringe idea into something that still dominates Scotland's politics, just because it actually had a (hilariously wooly) positive vision and message that it could actually set out and say "Look, we're going to create a new country, and it's going to be nice" instead of peddling the standard managerial bullshit that came from New Labour's Scottish office.

In the end the Scots backed down. Now, you can argue whether or not that was a good thing but it's ultimately irrelevant to the interesting part of it - the swing of ~15% of Scots who, when offered something beyond the Lab/Con blur, jumped at it, and the consequentially higher turnout in all Scottish elections since.

(There's also the rise of the SNP, co-opting managerial politics while also using it towards a semi-radical goal of breaking off Scotland, albeit without any vision for the future despite a wooly "More scandinavian, nicer" kind of thing, which is interesting since in this case it's essentially a revolution to have a revolution, as the party is such a big tent.)

if I was in the UK...

>I'm seriously fucking terrified that we've got Theresa "Snooper's Charter" May at the helm of the UK instead of call-me-dave.

Our political situation is completely fucked, anything less than a perfect Brexit deal is either going to fuck the economy so bad Corbyn might win the next election, or is so soft on immigration that the Tory right and UKIP cry betrayal and they end up winning.

I'm inclined to hard Brexit with Scottish Independence myself. Mostly because it's the coolest of the options available.

(Much though Corbyn being PM sounds fun, it also goes into "Time-Travelling USSR from the 1970s finally re-appears and starts dashing over the Fulda gap, forcing the UK to rejoin the EU and become part of the EU army or else have to singlehandedly defend itself from Russia." tier fantasy)

Brexit fucked the SNP. If they want to join the EU they have to take the Euro and become Porridge Greece.

I have it from a private tracker but my upload is like 100kbps so I can't upload it to mega. sorry lads

They only have to sign a notional commitment to the Euro. I don't want to get into a massive thing about the technical nuances of Scottish independence because they're less globally interesting than the success in increasing the popularity of the idea and the SNP (as even in 2016, they actually gained FPTP votes - they lost seats because they leaked to the Greens on second votes, which is an insane thing for a 3rd term government to do), but "you have to take the Euro" is one of the more annoying memes.

To join the Euro you have to have been in ERM2 for a few years. ERM2 membership is voluntary (and even if forced, Scotland and the UK both fail to meet the convergence criteria) so Scotland can opt out of the Euro by not joining ERM2, which is what Sweden does.

Can't tell if I'm actually smart and informed, or if Curtis's films just make everyone who engages in Wikipedia binges feel smart, and that's why he's quite popular in a niche-ish crowd.

My takeaway from this was, as he went through "all" that's happened in just the span of a few decades, look how people thought they were making the "right" choices in the moment, but it can potentially lead to royal fuck ups. Like looking back in retrospect (and in this case watching the doc.), the whole Gaddafi ordeal looks like a fucking disastrous idea, I mean look at what it (indirectly) lead to. But this was the "smart" choice, the one that the 'muricans could unknowing sneak past the general public.

And history is just gonna repeat itself. What the Russians are doing with their up-in-the-air approach will eventually all fall down in one way or another, along with Trump, etc.

I thought the suicide bombing aspect of this was pretty interesting. "We" (the West) cause it, really, but have tried to cover it up and just paint 'em as the bad guys who are just doing it for the sake of being evil.

what was with that weird part on acid and the internet

BUMP FOR MEGAUPLOAD

Torrent is up lads, seems to work fine
zooqle.com/bbc-adam-curtis-hypernormalisation-webrip-x264-mctv-vfr7t.html

guys this is my first time watching adam curtis, is it normal to get tinfoil hat vibes from this

It's kind of his style, but you should have that feeling placated by the fact he's a BBC journalist.
It's not a great entry into his work, as his earlier works (being made for television) manage to have a more authoritative air to them and be somewhat more succinct (though this is no bitter lake in that regard)

He's not a tinfoil hat though. In some cases it's probably better to remember his job is essentially to "really make you think" instead of to actually relay facts like a big boring fact machine, and as such what he actually does is cut facts up to tell you stories that really make you think, instead of for example educate you about the nuances of Syrian foreign policy. He knows if you want detail about Syrian foreign policy, you'll look it up. You might even find his blog, where he writes about the series of events that put Assad in power, starting with a US backed coup where one guy went on record as saying the coup was the dumbest idea he'd ever heard and would lead to untold disaster... and was fired for his trouble.

the same torrent is on tpb. however, it isn't HD.

You're basically just clueless if Adam Curtis gives you "tinfoil" vibes. Learn some real fucking history, everything he describes in his videos is historical fact, undisputed by scholars. You can factcheck his claims on google if you want.

Godbless you

It even has subtitles!!! So good, great rip

OH SHIT

SJWS ON SUICIDE WATCH

anybody have a UK vpn i can borrow to stream this since user will not deliver like the little he is?

>... and was fired for his trouble.
that last bit. So good can't wait to watch this stuff.

use tunnelbear, worked for me

I didn't expect it to discuss the inspiration of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. I wonder what /vg/ would think.

what the fuck is this? this girl isn't wearing any clothes??

Thanks Chris Morris

Before the war, John Major had a secret tryst with Harry Houdini, which had serious repercussions for every man, woman and child.
tomscott.com/infinite-adam-curtis/

>can get the general gist of what this site should be doing and think it'd greatly amuse me
>Even after getting privacybadger to allow all the soundcloud shite and allowing all scripts, there's still no audio
REEEEEEEEEEEE

bunp

HD torrent
thepiratebay.org/torrent/16056290/Adam.Curtis.HyperNormalisation.2016.WEB.h264-ROFL

Curtis doesn't lie but he does construct narratives, omit, and present his opinion as fact. He's by no means an objective historian and his version of history isn't the mainstream one. I love his docs for the craft but you always have to carefully check what he claims before taking it as fact.

Best quality MEGA upload!
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What he said about the Stugarsky brothers being dissidents isn't even true.
Nor is 'roadside picnic' a metaphor on soviet society.
It is a great book though.

>He made it sound as if those with power turned cyber space into a place where your ideals are reflected back onto you. But surely its just human nature more than anything to seek out like minded people on social media, etc. to create your own version of a safe space.
How would you be able to tell whether or not that's true though? When have huge numbers of people ever used an internet that wasn't completely dominated by corporations and governments? Sure we accept that as normal and come up with rationalizations for it but that doesn't actually make these things normal or makes the rationalizations true, we're just speculating because we have no alternate scenario without these massive institutions dominating the internet for it's entire history, we just don't know.

I was thinking the exact same thing, she lies so much it's fucking insane. Trump was quoting the FBI more or less word for word at the last debate when he was slamming her on the emails and her whole response was just "that's all lies!". Even though everything he said had already been stated by the guy in charge of the investigation that had exonerated her, it was still somehow lies because it made her look bad. Somehow.

Jesus christ

This and a new BotW, there's too much shit to watch today.

Is it as good as Bitter Lake? That shit was unsettling. It's about as close to a horror as I think a documentary can be.

>""""""documentary""""""
LUL

The general gist I've been getting is that it's better than Bitter Lake, though more because it's better made, not just a better message.

cool post user, I like it

>mainstream documentary stealing conspiracy theory kino style

it just aint right

>When have huge numbers of people ever used an internet that wasn't completely dominated by corporations and governments?

From the 90's up to the 2000's.

As an oldfag, I can't tell you how radically different the internet of 2016 feels from the internet of 1996.

It's off putting. It feels like TV now. There's an element of it being part of IRL, not as some distinct "other".

This has always been Curtis's aesthetic but.

>rare old footage montage intensifies
>eerie music intensifies
>calm rational voice intensifies
>his opinion is now fact

it aint his starts playing

Is this a virus?

So it's worth a watch?

>documentary about subjectivity
gee

I'm guessing the people saying it's about SJWs are lying.

In the run up to release, the denizens of Cred Forums fervently believed that Hypernormalization would be the final death blow to the social justice movement.

But this was a fantasy

>*Burial starts playing*

Is it just me that likes Curtis docs because of the way they're produced? I think it's really effective. Kind of dreamlike.

Also, for Yanks, it's spelled "HyperNormalisation".

Curtis has literally been making docs with this style since the early 90s, fuck off yank

>HyperNormalisation"
>s
stopped reading there

>People want it. They just don't have any gripping vision of what it is

Bingo.

Kek

I haven't seen it yet, but I do know that Curtis hates the idea of citizen journalism and the idea that plebs can use the internet to create non mainstream media. That alone makes me weary of his documentaries.

They are fun history lessons, and do make some interesting links, but anyone who takes them as gospel is missing the point of it all, which is critical thinking.

>new BotW

What?

There's a new best of the worst.

...New around these parts?

He must hate all news media now, since even the upper echelons have been reduced to glorified blogging.

At the end of every machines of loving grace

>looking for narrative where there aren't any
>looking for meaning in things that obviously are just independent events that have no bearing on one another

I hope you goys don't treat Curtis as anything other than entertainment.

what the fuck is that

Masterpiece

Okay, what was the point of this video? Instil despair at the direction society is headed? Show the vapidity of everyday life in contrast to the complexity of global politics? Make the viewer feel uneasy that they're watching a lewd video of underage girls? Why did it warrant the honour of closing the film?

Just finished watching.
Don't want to sound like a know-it-all, but I wasn't really mind-blown by anything - the Lybia-Syria thing was really shocking though. Like a real political theatre.

Maybe it's because I'm a Cred Forumstard, but the fact you shouldn't take anything at face value in politics, doesn't suprise me at all anymore. Just like the fact that there's always a bigger picture behind any world event.

He wanted the Cred Forums audience

Goosebumps intensify

>the Lybia-Syria thing was really shocking though. Like a real political theatre

>the fact you shouldn't take anything at face value in politics, doesn't suprise me at all anymore. Just like the fact that there's always a bigger picture behind any world event

I just wish there was a way of communicating this stuff. When you're talking politics, you've got to get your ideas across in a 10-second soundbite that also obeys social norms and doesn't make you sound like a pretentious conspiracy nut. The next time people think it's a good idea to remove [insert dictator here] because he's a bad guy, I can't just tell them it's 12-dimensional political theatre and ask them to watch a 3-hour documentary.

Yeah got to the cyberspace bit and turned it off, this is trash and I'm starting to think he's parodying himself

Yeah, I see what you mean.
I was still surprised at the growth of suicide bombing, the Libya-Syria clusterfuck and Russia deliberately confusing the rest of the world.

Though I guess I shouldn't be surprised at all at the last one.

Which would be fitting, because HyperNormalisation was more than the death blow to internet lefties. It was recognising that they were dead and buried and irrelevant right from the start. All those self-righteous social media rants existed in a bubble, and simply served to drum up ad revenue for corporations who in turn reinforced the bubble. Meanwhile the world outside fell apart.

>pic related

>Russia deliberately confusing the rest of the world

I swear I saw that clip about Russia's political theater years ago on Brooker's Screenwipe.

Corbyns post war social democracy is exactly what we needed after 2008 instead of braindead scapegoating of foreigners and the disabled which makes no substantive economic difference to the public finances whereas tax evasion and corporate welfare is a pot of money ten times bigger

>instead of braindead scapegoating of foreigners and the disabled

Who exactly is doing this?

>Corbyns post war social democracy is exactly what we needed after 2008

Yes, what we needed was Chancellor John "I am in the business of abolishing capitalism" McDonnell to sort the economy out lmao

Corbyn and chums mainstreaming of antisemitism is doing the far rights work for them.
British NazBol Republic when?

It miss
>"Mrs. Thatcher"

>"The romantic idea of the past..."


>"Technocrats"

Thanks to bring this OP. I am a huge Adam Curtis fan

>Thanks for bring this

>Cred Forums meets /x/: the movie

fuck off??

Are you trolling? 8 years of 'hurr scroungers hurr migrants' look at the cost proportions of each aspect in the national accounting reports. What do you think caused 2008, Gordon Brown lel? Enjoy your tory debt
Look at the empirical evidence, 75% antisem from the far right, do you realise there is empirical evidence the press is pro tory?
Wheres your empirical evidence you gullible Murdoch reading scumbags?

It did feel reminiscent of all watched over BMoLG too...

Not gon lie, at 3 hours, I'd forgotten the beginning by then end. At least his 3x1hr series had breif recaps.

Am I in the tin foil hat brigade? I think he didn't really say anything which isn't already widely accepted, but just presented it all in one go...

>Look at the empirical evidence, 75% antisem from the far right
citation pls
>Murdoch reading
lolno
Read this book nigger

this. Anything edgy i watch in incognito now, and just keep my main account for mindless shit. otherwise it just channels you into an echo chamber.
Youtube suggestions are great when it comes to looking at little italian men making intricate replica engines, or Big Clive taking apart a plug socket, but not for news...

didnt this guy hang himself after watching stroszek ? hows he still making movies lmao

You're thinking of Iggy Pop

Ian was his brother

Just finshed it. Why wasn't there a track listing for all the songs he used? Heard like ten of them that I need to know the name of.

>Who exactly is doing this?

do you even live in the UK? Not to get all Stewart lee, but the Daily Mail is one of the most read papers in the country.

Honestly if anyone knows where I can find the names of all the song he used that would be greatly appreciated. Can't find it on BBCs website or on wikipedia.

>Wanting to find original sources for anything Adam Curtis has used
>don't have access to BBC'S archive vaults

GOOD LUCK

the world hasn't become too complex, the people who lead the countries(and the people who decide who leads) have just become too retarded

WHY DON'T THEY PUT THE SONG THEY USED IN THE FUCKING END CREDITS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Only song I found was Suicide- Dream Baby Dream

just b urself

best way is to download shazam app and use it when you hear it

eventually someone will post a tracklist but that way will be quick.. 4u

Isn't shazam a sex position? Anyway I guess I'll download it and watch trough the entire documentary again.

>What do you think caused 2008, Gordon Brown lel? Enjoy your tory debt

The left (Labour in the UK) are the side who push for spending increases. This fucks the Tories over when they get into power as slashing NHS spending is electoral suicide. Yes, Gordon Brown is partly responsible, mainly for what he did as Chancellor.

It's not really conspiracy theory style anyway (though it comes close to that as conspiracy theorists have also had to hack up archive footage), it's more a sort of movie-collage from history.

Also he's being doing this since at least the 90s (haven't been able to find his 80s documentary on the Iranian revolution to see if it's the same) so it's not like he nicked it from JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEAL BEAMS videos.

Doesn't that amount to the same thing? Or are you implying we'd be able to sort everything out if only (You) were in power?

>I do know that Curtis hates the idea of citizen journalism and the idea that plebs can use the internet to create non mainstream media
Interested in a source. Not disagreeing, but I don't remember him every saying anything like that.

He's not creating a narrative because there is a narrative. He's creating a narrative because we are by nature narrative creatures.

We're already provided with narratives, it's just that they're shit and don't make any sense. ("Assad is literally Hitler, but ISIS is like Saddam-HuHitler so we've got to help Assad by bombing ISIS, but we've still eventually got to get rid of Assad to help the moderate rebels, who are basically the good guy from "The Great Dictator", so that Syria can become a free democratic republic like Liby--aaaaaah.") which is confusing, disorienting and dis-empowering.

Curtis then creates a more coherent narrative as to how this situation came about. He takes stories like very dry financial reform of the USA and UK and makes them into interesting tales of corporate raiders, because then you can actually keep your eyes open instead of focusing on the boring nuances of high-yield-bond regulations. In this way, you can start to think about the world and how things came to be while recognizing that the established narrative is a lie, and in fact anyone can create any narrative they want to explain events by grabbing a bunch of facts and slotting them together.

At least that's my view of it. Curtis's narrative serves to teach you that narratives aren't real, while doing so in a narrative style because otherwise you'd fall asleep.

There is a song at around 41:50 that has harp in it followed by silence then a flute. If anyone know the name of it I'll suck your dick

He showed it twice with different music. I think my idea is that when first shown, they are a group. They're a group of dancing children, but later when the music changes they become 3 isolated individuals.

Curtis did a blogpost on how changing the music can utterly change your interpretation of a video before (Indeed, I believe it was the footage of the man in the suit and the woman dancing which looped about 10 times) with that very example - one song and they're happy and together, another and they are utterly alone in one another's arms.

Throw in the fact the isolated lonliness with the illusion of companionship has infected even children and something something, it's a not-very-nice effect like the creepy Prozac kid (which honestly filled me with horror and made me very glad I dropped SSRI meme pills like a barrel bomb)

"narratives arent real"

well they are, it's just that they're usually lacking and biased.

Yes and no.

We did need something of the left, so to speak. Something that economically demonstrated that we are a society and not a group of rational individual robots, and that society can break through the terror of being an individual and show that actually, help is available. (i.e. the opposite of Thatcher's "There is no such thing as society, there are individuals and there are families..." since the latter part is actually the more horrifying one, demonstrating a goal to sever the link between individuals and society and foster selfishness - the poor are starving, but i'm a precarious middle class person who'll lose their house if interest rates go up so i can't afford to care)

Corbyn on the other hand really is incompetent. The Labour party lacks anyone who isn't either incompetent, or a Conservative minus the charm of genuine conservatism. You can't just have a message or a vague idea (and Corbyn definitely lacks a coherent forward-thinking idea for the country) you also need a good leader to get it through.

One of the things Curtis (lol nearly typed Corbyn) was the utter failure of the left to seize this opportunity and set things right. Labour got lost, disoriented, Gordon Brown SAVED THE WORLD, SAVED THE BANKS but he lost the Labour party. I wonder where we'd be if Lab+Lib+SNP+Plaid+Green+SDLP had voted through proportional representation and called a new election, as presuming a similar result Lib-Lab would be just over 50% of the vote.

is that where i remembered it from!!!!!!!!!!!! i knew i had heard the theory before...

>of the left

>of the left

This is not the BBC thread you are looking for.

WTF I hate normality now

This is a narrative, and it is a meme one.

For example the famously "overspending" 1979 Labour government left office with either a tiny deficit or a small surplus. They got meme'd hard by global economic circumstances (stagflation rooted in the saudi oil price fuckery and USA's economic woes), miscalculated the nation's finances (iirc bad data, not bad mathematics) and went to the IMF for a loan on that basis which later turned out to be an unnecessary humiliation. Then Thatcher came along on the back of the winter of discontent and in her first term many events beyond her control conspired to her aid:
North sea oil started to flow
Argentina invaded the Falklands (She was at her polling nadir before this, behind both Labour and the SDP)
Saudi Arabia's stranglehold on oil weakened as a result of everyone trying to find alternatives to their cuntery.

Labour's problem is that it is perpetually unlucky, not that it spends too much. National finances don't work in such a simplistic manner and the Conservative portrayal of them as something akin to a household budget where a surplus is the normal state of affairs just demonstrates how effective their control of the narrative is. First Labour (rightly) disputed it, then they accepted it and said they'd get a surplus too, but refused to accept they spent too much. Madness.

Yeah, me too, let's all buy ipads and coca cola and wait for this to all blow over.

This man is a retard

One commentator said "This man was a retard" while speaking about the films of your narrator

BUT THAT DID NOT MATTER

Because he was a nobody, and the forces of HyperNormality would soon sweep him away into a bubble where he would be trapped for all eternity with the nude corpse of Miss Thatcher, at the whim of a middle aged man in a BBC editing room. From that day forward, the anonymous commentator would no longer be focused on making petty criticisms on imageboards, but on revenge.

BUT THAT DID NOT MATTER

Because he was trapped. Forever. By forces beyond his control. In an area of the internet the size of Syria, he was all alone. The Net Utopians could never have predicted that one film director had so much power, but one man thought differently.

ADAM CURTIS

"THE REPLY" BY ADAM CURTIS
DIRECTED BY ADAM CURTIS
WRITTEN BY ADAM CURTIS
MANAGED BY ADAM CURTIS
CONCEPT BY ADAM CURTIS
TEXT BY ADAM CURTIS
COFFEE MADE BY LUCY KELSALL
COFFE CONSUMED BY ADAM CURTIS

>tfw not in the leet trackers where Curtis films are available
can anyone invite me to nongarbage tracker if i post ratioproofs

First 5 min
>NYC bankrupt because of nig gibsmedats
>Curtis can't or won't join the dots

dropped

>niggers are to blame!
exactly the kind of inane simplistic thinking the doc analyzes
ironic really

weak, emotional, manchildren with low testosterone who are creative types and not much else like Adam Curtis are not people you should respect.

>No more Newtons or Turings after population replacement.
Couldn't you have said the same thing when the Roman Empire abandoned England?

>hehe you peons, reality is far more complex than what YOU think, fortunately I'm capable of TRULY understanding what is going on

pssshhht wake up sheeple

>because of nig gibsmedats
No, because of white flight and banks deciding to assert power.
The problem wasn't excess spending, but a lack of revenue.

You really think social welfare programs spend enough to bankrupt the largest city in the country on their own?

No, but I really think there would be no budget deficit without blacks and hispanics.
Why?
Because it's true.

The white flight was caused by a nig crime explosion i.e. street level gibs

Well if we're defining everything as gibs, then yeah, living in HyperGibs is a result of the gibs from the cybergibs interacting with attentiongibs while the politigibsians gib bombs to libya to help their population accept the gibs.

But it's about as useful as replacing every verb with "fuck"

White flight was caused by suburban expansion and economic growth following WW2

>>NYC bankrupt because of nig gibsmedats
You are a simpleton.

Not really, the cultural/eugenic growth of Britain & N Europe took 1000 yrs of feudal politcal economy to achieve. See pic related for details.
They are being replaced by 1st cousin marrying muds living on welfare.

How about directing your anger to the biggest gibmes...you know the companies like Walmart who play their workers so low, that they get food stamps...they are literally being subsidised by the state..or all those bansk that got billions in bailouts...or the corporations that get cushy contracts from the government.

You're getting worked on a huge scale.

Companies are the worst nigs.

If all the blacks said they'd move to Africa people would celebrate not having to pay for gibs or the negative social effects of having lots of poor people around. If all the Companies said they'd move to Africa, we'd start cutting taxes and offering them public subsidy begging them to stay. Pathetic.

Fuck off leftypol

>leftypol

>you know the companies like Walmart who play their workers so low, that they get food stamps

Is US even a first world country?

Hardly. I agree with him and I'm an outright fascist.

Companies like that do not help the state or the nation, they hinder it for their own gain. The nation-state is the key organizing unit of mankind, and companies that seek to weaken it for their own gain should be brought to heel.

Fuck off Cred Forums

It's funny how in America capitalism of today means monopolies, poverty and barely any competition.

What went wrong?

I knew leftypol were here the fucking cockraoches

>Companies are the worst nigs.
That why I have a gun - in case Monsanto tries to break in my house.

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>Average leftypol browser

What the fuck triggered you? Fucking hell

Thta's the natural endstate of Capitalism, Ulness the government enacts anti-trust laws or similar regulations.

People fell for the deregulation meme in the truest of senses, assigning moral force and utopianism to an idea in the least pragmatic of ways.

I kind of want to give a nuanced overview of regulation as a matter of public policy (for example helping to foster the development of a national airline network and establish safety standards, before moving into perhaps excessive commercial regulation until the 70s, then de-regulation eventually leading to the low-cost airlines that let almost anyone fly today.) but it'd be very long winded.

Essentially I'd just say that hating regulations for being regulations instead of hating their practical effects is stupid, as is leaving the free market entirely unregulated (because people don't have perfect information, and information becomes a commodity, and essentially over time it just builds up into monopoly and stagnation.)

While government does have a role in this (refusing to let the banks collapse because it would lead to utter chaos, for example) ultimately had they properly regulated banks in the first place, the issue wouldn't have arisen. People seeking simple solutions to complex public policy questions fucked it all up.

Perhaps as a silly analogy, a river flows naturally. We can divert that river to other things if we want, or figure out it's flow and sail on it, but it's utter insanity to assign moral force to the flow of the river and say "Ah yes, let's not interfere. Sure, it floods our town every so often, but let's just leave it alone." without some serious evidence that interfering poses a risk (which interfering with real world rivers often does, but for the purposes of example let us assume this river won't, because it's a river of liquid gold at water temperatures, okay?)

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fuck yes adam curtis kino

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btw

>Perhaps as a silly analogy, a river flows naturally
Wittgenstein does not approve of this user

have to say even though it's a joke comic i'm annoyed by the conflation of socialism and social democracy
what they're describing as socialism is social deomcracy. socialism promises to worker control of the means of production yada yada yada not just hand out nice things on taxpayer money.

2h46min
jesus christ, there's footy on later you know

>2h46min doc

>the rip here is fucking 900mb

uhh
uhhh

high quality rip when

the fuck you need a documentary in hd for faggot

Because I don't want low resolution pixel garbage?

...

almost all of the footage is from archives or the internet and thus already not HD.

Holy fuck thank you user

That's the 50 fps bloat version. All iPlayer encodes automatically get a 50 fps version. Not really more that 3GB of extra bloat here since none of the clips used was originally more than 25 fps.

Anyway, cool documentary.

I hope it has better audio at least

this rip is completely fine, don't know what these quality whores are bitching about

a lot of people confuse capitalism with markets. they are somewhat duals of each other:

markets: you sell a commodity for money which is exchanged for different commodities (C-M-C)

capitalism: you take money, convert it a commodity which is sold for more money. (M-C-M)

financial capitalism: you throw money in, get money out, no commodities to slow you down: (M-M)

That is a really dire picture bong friend, what is your opinion on Democratise Europe Movement (DiEM helmed by varoufakis and other great thinkers)?

>content to sit in muh living room watching fiction other people've cooked up
>watch a few motherfuckers in a documentary causing miserable lives and deaths with a few decisions
wew lad

Roadside Picnic has a lot more subtext than you realise.

What are some similar documentary makers like Adam? I really love this .

It's not necessarily pro-Hilary to point out that trump is a fucking liar though user

>arab spring revolution creates a vacuum
>muslims fill it

there is no god, I'll never understand how this shitstorm happened

>[
ARab Spring Rev. was probably orchestreated by US intentionally to fuck over the territory desu

whatever started it, it gave birth to motherfucking Isis in Europe, so maybe the orchestrators could do a little magic to counteract this fucking shit

Orchestrated no, but once it started they jumped right in and dropped all the leaders they used to support.

What are some similar documentary makers like Adam? I really loved this doc.

Just him. Have you seen Bitter Lake?

nah

have you seen zeitgeist??

He's a man who's watching static and making plotines out of shimmering grey pixels, but he has a great taste in music and digs up funny bits of archive film so I will always watch.

>He's a man who's watching static and making plotines out of shimmering grey pixels
>I'm going to say something without giving any reasons

Worth a watch?

Depends on what sort of things you like to watch really.

just got done with bitter lake. any chance of someone putting this on jewtube soon?

I need a webm of that pre-2001 disaster movie compilation
Literally kino

Well, best I can do is post the track that accompanied it.

youtube.com/watch?v=XyvhTIOJeJ4

If the doc doesn't dedicate at least as much time to the lies (not to mention gross incompetence) of the other candidate, then it is biased.

If I'm rightly remembering The Power of Nightmares, I thought Curtis was against US intervention in the Middle East, so why is he going after the more isolationist candidate, instead of the one who's pushing to escalate the conflict in Syria?

Close enough

He doesn't go after Trump at all.

Watch it before getting triggered please.

>It's a pro-Hillary piece.

you'd have to be really fucking deluded to watch that and think it was in any way pro establishment politics

What's this even about? I couldn't really tell from the trailer.

>It's about how Trump lies to the public and people know he's lying but don't care.

We live in a time of great uncertainty and confusion. Events keep happening that seem inexplicable and out of control. Donald Trump, Brexit, the War in Syria, the endless migrant crisis, random bomb attacks. And those who are supposed to be in power are paralysed - they have no idea what to do.

This film is the epic story of how we got to this strange place. It explains not only why these chaotic events are happening - but also why we, and our politicians, cannot understand them.

It shows that what has happened is that all of us in the West - not just the politicians and the journalists and the experts, but we ourselves - have retreated into a simplified, and often completely fake version of the world. But because it is all around us we accept it as normal.

But there is another world outside. Forces that politicians tried to forget and bury forty years ago - that then festered and mutated - but which are now turning on us with a vengeful fury. Piercing though the wall of our fake world.

no

>Events keep happening that seem inexplicable and out of control. Donald Trump, Brexit, the War in Syria, the endless migrant crisis, random bomb attacks

what about these events are inexplicable or out of control? they are all 100% explainable

are they, go solve all this shit then

It's so depressing when people watch his stuff and they assume that he's against whatever they're for, left or right.

If anything he paints Trump as an intelligent guy on a personal level, there's almost no mention of his 'politics' beyond his part in the whole post-truth aspect of modern life.

Well you watched it, what parts did you disagree with?

>they are all 100% explainable
This is what I was thinking. They are actually easily explainable. Trump/Brexit are both nationalist phenomenon that were bound to happen after 50 years of over-bureaucratizing and federalizing. Syria and the surrounding areas have been in perpetual war for 1500 years and the "random" bomb attacks aren't even near random.

and also in the middle of them

and at the beginnings

and pretty much throughout

not that a warm place and right where it belongs aren't great but y'know

what needs to be solved exactly

>the "random" bomb attacks aren't even near random.
as a Belgian they feel pretty random, as in unpredictable, and scary ffs

muslim extremist attacks in europe you stupid shit

I mean not to downplay it but more people died in the last day from getting heart disease from obesity than have over the last year in europe from terror attacks

Ok, but I'm not gonna get heart disease picking up my parents from fucking brussels airport a few times a year

follow the reply chain you dingus

someone was talking about these things being mysteries that are unexplainable, which is obviously not true. not talking about solutions here

sir yes sir

>people arguing about the content of a documentary they haven't watched based on some advertising blurb for it they saw posted in the thread

Things are far worse than Curtis could ever know.

but to answer your question it is obvious that if we expunge the muslims from our lands then we wont have any more attacks

ITT: We construct our own Adam Curtis monologue.

Cred Forums: Orders of Magnitude

one in five muslims in Belgium have sympathy for ISIS according to a survey, that's pretty fucking bad

I agree but seems unlikely

doesn't matter, just use a proxy and press i have a license, works fine for me

spot on

Source Code.

NOTHING MADE SENSE AND FUCK THAT ENDING WAS RETARDED

Watching right now. As always the soundtrack is always on point.

youtube.com/watch?v=yoZCDNqmFqs
>tfw he breaks out the old glam era Eno stuff

>*plane footage*
>This is a story about a person of rather large proportions, and even larger ambitions...

CIA thought that he could control Bane, but this was a fantasy

If your police were allowed to profile, then the Brussels bombing would have never happened. LE knew that the Brussels bombing was going to happen, but thanks to local politicians, they were not allowed to do their jobs.

>"He pursued these ambitions, even at the cost of his own life, nevermind others. His first victim: *cue in Real Human Bean* Wilson, Bill Wilson"

>centred white helvetica
Meanwhile in Afghanistan
youtu.be/RsF0BoJSeqA?t=47