Can someone explain the flying saucer in season 2?

There was a big UFO craze in the 70's.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_Johnson_incident

Damn I really thought that Ted Danson was a secret ufologist when the daughter discovered all the weird shit at his place

Anything could have interrupted Bear in that scene, if one of the cops had shot him nobody would have complained. It could have been Hanzee or Lou's father in law, the UFO was unnecessary.

It's about the "this is a true story" meme. Everyone knows it's bullshit so they had fun with it.

This is my only complaint for season 2. Was there just to confuse people, I still don't understand why it was included. At least they were making a point with the UFO.

Was there any meaning to his whole bit about inventing a new sign language at the end? Was it relevant?

I think we can all agree that season 1 was stronger.

Lester and Malvo alone were better than all of s2

I like to think he was bullshitting about the language, and was genuinely looking into UFOs. It means nothing though, so take what you will from it.

When will next season take place already? Between movie and season 1?

no

wrong

cmon, I enjoyed season 2 no doubt, but following Lester was more fun than following Ed and Peggy (I fucking hate Peggy).

Malvo was also much more enjoyable than Mike Milligan

S2 was clumsy, episode 1 was poorly directed and out of tone: set in the 70's with shaky shoulder held cam and fast cutting editing?
Also not a big fan of the split screens.
Still it was better than most tv shows

Peggy is the best girl.

How can you possibly like Peggy?

Did anyone else feel bad for the gepharts? It was sad to see an entire family and it's legacy btfo for corporate crime. It was like a small business getting destroyed by walmart.

the dutch family were tight af

satan trips.

then the nignog gets corporated too.

full circle.

I think the fish rain in S1 was tied into the biblical thread that ran throughout that whole season and probably had something to do with God's whacky brand of justice, smiting first borns and whatnot.

The Aliens in S2 are a bit harder to pin down but I think the thread they were supposed to represent was the growing disillusionment in government competence that permeated the decade. Ufology is all about conspiracy theorists that think the government is lying to them or even out to get them in some way. Ultimately it ends up just being the setup to Lou's arc though, which is that he's facing down increasing loneliness both professionally and personally.

why would you not like peggy?

She is loving and caring. Just a little bit confused.
Also based perfomance by Dunst.

Because Fargo is actually Coen Brothers: The Series, it constantly references most of their other movies and the UFO is a reference to The Man Who Wasn't There.

meta justifications dont apply

There's no other reason for it.

S2 tries to hard to be clever. It backfires a lot.

Modern times, after season 1, I believe.

Milligan tried too hard with all the quotes and 3deep shit too

Yeah. I also thought the intros were a bit too much in S2. And the music choice. It just felt like it was too aware of Fargo being the quirky, dark humour, meta show and chose to play it up as much as possible. They should've stuck to the tone S1 had, even that was way less subtle than the film.

Really curious on what s3 will be.

Also, it'll have MEW

I wish we could have one in a close future with minor domestic technological advances like in Back to the Future 2, no space/time/dimentionnal travel shit

Fargo is at its worst when it's playing "dude lets be Coens, lmao".

It's a high quality crime drama show but as soon as they lean into the Coen shit it feels like affected aping.

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I'll probably check it out too, but I'm not as interested as I was after S1.
I just don't understand what the cause of the tonal shift was.
Did someone leave and get replaced?
The directors were different but the writer and producer were the same, and shows change directors all the time.
It's a bit puzzling to me.

i never really thought this through but the first thing that popped into my head at the time is that the ufo is the audience. notice how there are subtle hints through the season about he ufos watching everything, but it's only during scenes of extreme violence that they show themselves (the diner and the motel massacres). it's as if during these tense life-and-death struggles they can't keep themselves away, like tv watchers leaning forward in their seats, and so they end up poking through the clouds and disrupting the very events they observe.

I like this explanation.

But they somewhat explained that w a freak tornado over a nearby lake, right?

Literally what? I dropped season 2 pretty early and this sounds retarded as fuck.

its a meme you dip

The entire show is literally ripping off as many aspects of the Coen brothers aesthetic, themes, and movies without bringing anything unique to the table and demonstrating a fundamental lack of understanding about their movies.

you must have dropped it very early then because there was a flying saucer like halfway through the first episode

>It's a high quality
No. All quality is derived from aping the coens.

apart from resolving an irresolvable situation, of course.

is there a coen brothers movie where a psychotic housewife justifies murderous violence with self-help psychobabble? because i liked that part a lot.

First episode saucer can be chalked up to just about anything and is irrelevant to the narrative.

9th episode saucer is a literal deus ex machina and basically shatters any illusion of there being an actual narrative.

Dunst's character is a genderswapped, dumbed down anton chigurh.

first episode saucer is blatantly a ufo and it sets the entire plot in motion because the kid is hit by dunst's car while staring at the ufo lights. it's the exact same device, merely less explicit.

lol why not a genderswapped darth vader in a wig

set in 2009

ewan mcgregor playing twins, one successful, one not.

because the coens didn't write star wars

...Could be okay

the kid was also extremely stupid, high as fuck, had just murdered several people, etc. The UFO wasn't absolutely necessary to have him wander into the road and get hit by a car.

The UFO was absolutely necessary to keep the cop alive.

I enjoy mcgregor so should be good.

plus mew hot af

Mew?

>The UFO was absolutely necessary to keep the cop alive.

what the fuck are you talking about

>Mew?

MEW.

s1 is arguably as good as 2 but it has worse production value

s2 is a masterpiece in every aspect

That is an awesome idea for a death scene.

It was an actual saucer? I just remember a light or something.

Guess I'm never finishing that season because that sounds retarded.

I thought it was that he was playing an older, handsome successful brother and a fat, aging younger brother.
>older parking lot developer
>younger corrupt parole officer

That last part's beautiful.

you couldn't see the saucer but it was pretty blatant alien abduction imagery

dunst's character is obviously the cat from inside llewyn davis

The fish rain had an explanation and there have been such occurences in real life before.

THE UFO WAS TOTAL BULLSHIT. Would have been the best show of the year if not for that, I hope he realized that doing that pretty much killed all chances of winning any emmys.

i hope it airs in parallel with the david simon show where james franco plays twin porn moguls

>babby's first magical realism
open a book for once you mongoloids

They did the ufo and the raining fish thing because of the "this is a true story" gimmick that started with the movie. The guy who did the tv show said he would add some crazy stuff like that so if felt more like a crazy old true story that you couldn't make up because no one would believe them.

A trash literary device for trash writers.

The fish thing is actually possible and ever heard of meat rain?

>I fucking hate Peggy

How do you have such incredibly shitty taste?

When the Coen fags can't think of a reason for something to happen
>Queue random UFO causing said incident
It's really dumb and lazy writing

>The one Gerhardt son wouldn't even have died if it wasn't for the sudden UFO bullshit
It seemed like there was some semi-supernatural stuff going on with him too though in the opposite direction. I remember him being shot with high-caliber rounds multiple times in vital organs but continuing to fight like some kind of superhuman

And ufos are actually possible thats why they were in the story. Its crazy far fetched but could happen, which made it feel more like a "true story"

Allow me to introduce to you the greatest novel ever written. I would love to debate with you its merits and how magical realism relates to them, but I seriously doubt you've ever read it.

>mexican name

lol

If you hadn't said that as a joke, I would have assumed that would have been in a Coen bros. movie already

I took it as face value. A lonely man doing his best to move past the woman he loved and lived with for decades.

These sorts of things are not at all irregular, and it gave great depth to an already fantastic character.

I'm just happy he lived. I don't know if I could have forgiven the showrunners had he not.

Incredible performance by her. I haven't seen the OJ thing so I can't compare, but I find it hard to believe the winner gave one better.

I don't know why, but I cannot feel any lust for MEW. I like her acting, and think she's beautiful, but it's just not there.

I kinda just want to cook her breakfast.

Pleb.

She looks like her head is doing a 180. Like its normal position is looking from the back. Anyone catch my drift?

Or he ripped off the biblical event of animals falling from the sky from Magnolia like he ripped off the Man Who Wasn't There with the UFOs because he's a no talent hack who completely failed to understand the movie he titled the whole thing after.

when a writer wants something to happen he just writes that it happened. it's a travesty. i can't believe these lazy cunts get paid for literally imagining things

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... in the 9th episode a UFO saves one of the characters from being murdered.

Magnolia wasn't coens though.

And the goal of storytelling is to make people forget, for a while, that its just a story.

So when you pull bullshit like "and then our hero's plot armor summoned a UFO to save him," that illusion is completely broken.

that is an incredibly boring an pointless goal. any storyteller that tells you the aim of fiction is to pretend fiction isn't fiction has disappeared completely up his own ass.

suspension of disbelief is your job. all your cynical fantasies of "writer laziness" ruin fiction for you. you've failed to comprehend a straightforward tv show and it's your own fault. nobody broke anything.

and in the first episode it causes a character to be killed. so what? in both cases a major plot development occurs because someone is distracted by an ufo and i don't understand why one would be fine and one wouldn't.

i've missed this ;_;

Uhg. I didn't get it. BOOORRRINNNGGG

I watched Narcos too

That's not magical realism m8.

The flying saucers are meant to represent the jews. Lou didn't want to come off as antisemitic so he just referred to (((them))) as aliens.

I'm a bit of a literary pleb, how readable is this? The more reputable novels I've read have been Nineteen Eighty-Four and Slaughterhouse 5 and I enjoyed those.

people will try to come up with some deep meaning.
noah hawley himself said aomething like "there were a lot of UFO sightings in the 70's so i think it made sense"
that's it.
he wanted it in his show.
It's also just another Coen Brothers reference he put in there to suck them off. (the man who wasnt there)
Fargo is literally just a fanfiction for the movie the the Coens gave the greenlight.
but that doesnt mean i dont love it.

>show set to come back in the spring
>only either 5,6, or 7 months to go until comfy Fargo Livethreads.
;_:

this

It's just there. Essentially it's a nod to the tropes of the original film

they're both equally great in their own ways

>he thinks aliens havent shown up in real life before

It's also worth noting that Fargo, and other Coen Brothers movies, deals deeply with absurdism.

In Fargo, both the movie and series, we see good old fashioned small town americans deal with immense senseless violence and chaos, and we watch them struggle to understand and make sense of it all. Think of the last scene in the film when the ladycop is driving the criminal away and is asking him what was the point of all of the violence, and if it was worth a bit of money. These types of characters cant seem to wrap their heads around the violence, so it all seems absurd to them.
The UFO is the ultimate absurd element in the show and could be meant to represent that feeling of not fully grasping the insanity of the entire situation going on. Only a character like Peggy who has fully embraced the violent absurd nature of everything can look at the UFO and say "yeah this makes sense whatever" and go on like nothing happened, because she is already lost and deep in the absurdity.

or its just random shit idk