I’m an NRA member

Brayden Barnes
Brayden Barnes

I’m an NRA member. What’s the solution leftists?

There are millions of ARs and AKs in the United States.You can ban them but you can’t remove them from society because a holy shitload of people own these guns. You bitch, whine and scream at Trump to “do something” but you have no idea what “something” is. What the fuck is your solution? Do you want the US to turn into communist China and have the government confiscate all of these types of guns? Do you know the shitstorm that would happen if they did that?

Don’t bitch about solutions and live in the real world for once

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youtu.be/fdTucUya9YE
politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/nra-guns-second-amendment-106856?o=1
theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1823016659
politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/nra-guns-second-amendment-106856
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
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google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/07/14/europe/acid-attacks-london-numbers-trnd/index.html

Jackson Powell
Jackson Powell

Even then, the whole argument against mass shootings is fuckin retarded, 1.5% of gun violence in the United States comes from mass shootings, so why are we so obsessed with it?

Chase Taylor
Chase Taylor

How many people need to die before the government finally makes drugs illegal?
Oh wait....

Julian Green
Julian Green

Exactly, The left will cry for 17 kids that got killed but not over MILLIONS of veterans who are homeless and in need for help. They should "do something" about that.

Landon Harris
Landon Harris

They should “do something” about the fucking mass shootings in big cities where little kids get shot through the walls of their fucking houses and drive-by gang shootings instead of menstuating about a few psychos that the FBI didn’t do their job to stop

Ethan Hughes
Ethan Hughes

You sound like a whiney little bitch.

Cry some more you big baby.

Jace Gomez
Jace Gomez

Way to give a perfect example of how prohibition doesn't work, be it for drugs or guns

Carson Moore
Carson Moore

"I don't want it in schools, or near children. Keep the traffic in the dark neighborhoods, they are animals anyways so let them lose their souls"

Easton Rogers
Easton Rogers

No I sound like a rational human fucking being. Liberals literally live in a fucking fairy tale world. Completely incapable of logic or rationality

Jaxon Miller
Jaxon Miller

A bigger black market for guns will actually cause more street violence.

Nathan Scott
Nathan Scott

Wah wah wah. You sound like the illogical child.

Sounds like you need a diaper change you big baby.

Joseph Gomez
Joseph Gomez

Thunderdome.

No, I'm fucking serious. You want a deadly weapon? Kill for it. Put every fucking gun owner in a fucking arena, unlimited ammo restocks, last one alive gets to keep his gun license.

Gavin Rogers
Gavin Rogers

be me
just hanging out in the warehouse after being manufactured
finally getting shipped to retailer
get put on display for potential purchasers
mfw.gif someone actually decides to buy me!
owner takes me home
cleans me up real, real nice
be so fucking shiny
feelsgoodman.jpeg
owner now decides to go and put me to use
be a little nervous
its okay, im made for this
owner now takes control of me
we start heading towards where he wants to go
we then see several people
theyre walking, minding their own business
suddenly, for no reason, my owner kills them, but he uses me to do it
feelsbadman.jpeg
mfw he just drove right into them
mfw the cops arrived and arrested the man
mfw the tow truck came and picked me up to get repaired and eventually resold to a new owner
mfw my previous owner is doing life in prison
mfw no one ever blamed me for the murders
mfw im a car

How come when a car is used to kill, it's the driver's fault, but when a gun is used to kill, it's the gun's fault?

Kevin Ross
Kevin Ross

So, Trump is literally Hitler.. but you want to ban all guns. How will you defend yourselves from his oppressive, nazi regime?

David Morris
David Morris

That is what OP is asking. What is the something that needs to be done?

Brody Russell
Brody Russell

oh aren't you clever.

dumb faggot, they aren't the same.

Landon Brooks
Landon Brooks

Yeah, I'm sure your little small-dick peashooter is gonna work great when a predator drone blows up your house from 30,000 feet with a guided missile smarter than your kids.

Michael Sullivan
Michael Sullivan

That's not an answer to the problem. 0 points to you

Brandon Stewart
Brandon Stewart

I know what you mean. I own an ar and love it. It's fun to shoot and work on. I'm not crazy, have children, and keep it locked up. They know what it is and where it is. I feel horrible for anyone who is at the other end of miss guided killing but gun control is sumoly I can't understand. It truly only makes it harder for honest people to obtain any weapon. Guns are easy to to get in the street. If they ban cash maybe that would help. Just saying.

Bentley Brown
Bentley Brown

being this buttblasted

Cameron Evans
Cameron Evans

Guns are easy to to get in the street.
You ever try to get a gun in the uk?

Liam Carter
Liam Carter

well, the facts speak for themselves.

in states with open carry, crime is down.

the solution is to make illegal gun possession a much more punishable crime.
if you have an illegal gun, that should be the same as planning to kill someone.

its like the war on drugs. spending billions and all the time and resources on catching the few top dawgs who gets replaced in a second, while giving small fines to the users, will never work.

remove the market, not the supplier.

if legal guns are the problem, then attacks with trucks are a bigger problem.

Jace Rivera
Jace Rivera

Agreed

Ryder Martinez
Ryder Martinez

Would you be ok with Swiss style gun laws?

Mandatory military service
have to recertify at the gun range every few years or pay a fine
no ammo at home - have to shot at a range.

In exchange you get to have a fully automatic at home for when the Russians attack.

Thomas Smith
Thomas Smith

0 points

Parker Richardson
Parker Richardson

Enforce the law and keep getting illegal guns out of the hands of criminals or psychos. We can assist that by deporting more illegals and calling in the national guard to ghettos to clean the mother fuckers out

Jayden Ward
Jayden Ward

0 points

Andrew Edwards
Andrew Edwards

Nope. Don't need to. Have you?

Jackson Clark
Jackson Clark

No, because we don't live in the UK. Any more dumb questions?

James Mitchell
James Mitchell

Personally, I'd say raise the legal age for gun ownership to 20.

Kayden Nelson
Kayden Nelson

That's what I'm wondering. INstead of them trying to promote devices to help prevent access to the rooms if they're so worried about a hidden gun with an alarm system on it. I see two ways this can be solved and using both would be an amazing combination

Idea 1
Have devices to hold the doors shut in the event it happens. If the door has to closing system on it (yay yay retardfag here. THe thing that makes the door shut itself) you could have a metal sheath and a pin in each class room. Throw the sheath over it and pin it so the shooter can't get into the classroom.

Idea 2

Each classroom has a hidden gun in a glass, alarmed box. The moment it's broken into it sets off an alarm system throughout the whole school. This would deter the shooter and/or arm every faculty member with a pistol.

But neither of these will ever happen because it's not stripping a right from citizens to own firearms. If you implement gun control now, it will only make it super inconvenient for a law abiding citizen. Hell, there's black market guns right now with what little we have. Stop and think you fucking retards. Solve the fucking problem and stop pushing your shitty agenda.

Carter Nguyen
Carter Nguyen

b-but the government has big scary drones, you hicks will never defeat them!
Pic related

Parker James
Parker James

Military wouldn't do it anyway, not at command level, and definitely not at enlisted.

Evan Green
Evan Green

No because I want a loaded gun at my house to protect myself with

Angel Moore
Angel Moore

I’m fine with that, or 21

Nathan Howard
Nathan Howard

citypaper.com/news/murderink/

See how many guns were "legal"

Andrew Cook
Andrew Cook

Not a leftist, but Obamas idea was to just make ammo freaking expensive and unavailable.

Nathan King
Nathan King

The Aussies saw a gun problem and enforced more scrict laws against owning gun. We could learn something fom them.

Justin Brown
Justin Brown

Hey douchebag, I am a leftist, and I am pro-gun

What you NRA people need to do is stress that the definition of "assault rifle" is based on purely cosmetic features

Also raise age of purchasing semi-auto center-fire rifles to 21

Dominic Lopez
Dominic Lopez

Thats not how asymmetrical warfare works. Otherwise we've been wasting our time in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. Why do we need intelligence and war plans when all you do is use a drone. Why are you not running the military, you are so smart. Youre like a tactical genius.

Henry Green
Henry Green

you forget libretards have no use for facts, figures or logic if they get in way of personal feelings and emotions.

Nicholas Cruz
Nicholas Cruz

in states with open carry, crime is down
States with the most open gun laws have the highest per-capita murder rates
New England states dominate the top 10 safest states.

Nathan Clark
Nathan Clark

fuck off cunt. im on the left and i didn't cry, and i am pro-gun

kys you divisive cunt

Evan Peterson
Evan Peterson

Sorry, I don't understand what your point is, other than that you're either a fucking idiot or a clever piece of russian PHP script.

Evan Reed
Evan Reed

we have you name and address from the background check, expect us

Asher Nguyen
Asher Nguyen

I’m OP and I agree with you on raising the age. You can buy a shotgun at 18 but a handgun at 21, I guarantee you a shotgun or an AR can do a HELL of a lot more shit than a little 9mm and I never understood that law. Plus an 18 year old is still a kid

See? We agree on something!

William Ross
William Ross

No it wasn’t Obama. It was all of you retards stocking up while at the same time the government was replenishing low stocks for the military and law enforcement.

James Cooper
James Cooper

who is this?

I'm so confused

Jack Morgan
Jack Morgan

Literally just do exactly what our government did in Australia, it's called a buyback amnesty.
If you fat retards can't even just copy someone else's methods you truly are retarded.
We introduced gun control and haven't had a single massacre in two decades, you fat plebs just can't handle being told what to do because you all a bunch of overweight self absorbed retards. Literally no other country in the planet likes you. Move to Mars or something

Christopher Ramirez
Christopher Ramirez

You can ban them

You got yourself a deal.

Jaxon Young
Jaxon Young

”you’re a Russian shill!”

James Myers
James Myers

I never said "shill".

I said "bot".

Might wanna work on that Regex, Sirgey.

Tyler Howard
Tyler Howard

Okay but there are a ton of things that are banned or outlawed in the world that still exist. Like murder, rape, child molestation, drugs, it goes on and on. By that logic should we just get rid of the law altogether and then the world can be a big free for all? Some people would immediately answer yes to that both because they really think that would be a good idea and because they do not want to be caught online thinking outside of the box they created for themselves. But once things start happening to them or their family then maybe they would think different. It is confusing as all hell. They ban toy guns at school, costume guns at anime conventions and other cosplay get togethers, pretty much all replica guns are demonized, but the ones that actually are used to murder someone are protected. Look, I love guns too. A lot actually. But I think humans are way more important than my hurt feelings if they are banned or at least regulated properly.

There. That's my opinion. This post is public, so I am allowed to give my opinion on it publicly.

Nathan Lewis
Nathan Lewis

We already do that. Nearly 3 million gun sales have been denied to unsafe purchasers.

Brayden Thomas
Brayden Thomas

A bunch of illiterate sandniggers in the middle east have held their own for 40 years with only AKs and sandals. Your argument has failed. Try again. "Muh military weapons" meme fails every time.

Liam Rodriguez
Liam Rodriguez

They bought like a gazillion rounds of ammo all at once, which triggered ammo hoarding. I think it was deliberate, not just something that happened by chance. Shelves were empty.

Asher Edwards
Asher Edwards

So you're saying the US millitary sucks and could be beaten by Cletus, Billy-Bob, and Bobby-Jim?

Brandon Roberts
Brandon Roberts

Liberalism is a mental illness. Look what happened with gays. First they get the ability to get married since they complained for so long about it, now they want mentally ill trannies crossdressing and going into the same restroom as your wife and daughters. That is why we can't fold to their bullshit when it comes to guns. Give them an inch and they take a mile. Fuck lefties, they're communist scum as far as I'm concerned.

Austin Anderson
Austin Anderson

Then why don't we raise the age of adulthood to 21 while we're at it?

Grayson Evans
Grayson Evans

”you’re a Russian bot!”

Robert Sullivan
Robert Sullivan

It's already happened (see: Vietnam)

Ian Turner
Ian Turner

There is nothing anyone can do about it. All these kids screaming at Trump to do something, there is nothing that can be done.

Julian King
Julian King

not that poster, but once you start calling people Russian as your argument you've pretty much lost. It doesn't matter if you said shill or bot, you still said russian, and that makes you gay. and lame. and wrong.

Easton Richardson
Easton Richardson

If you just thought through what you’re saying more than a few steps you would realize how retarded it is.

Ian Baker
Ian Baker

Sorry. All lives have meaning.
We do not get to pick and choose whose life means more. The veterans are important, and those children who didn't even get to begin living their lives matter. The problem really is less with guns and more with how we humans treat eachother and our lives like trash, especially when we come across someone who doesn't have the same opinion as us and we're not able to handle it.

Sebastian Perez
Sebastian Perez

I'm in the NRA as well, and I'm tired of having to explain this.

Guns are not the problem in shootings, it's the people involved. If there weren't a second person, there would be nobody to shoot, so it would make the situation moot. Even if the shooter were to shoot himself, there may not even be a gun involved. The vast majority of shootings do not even involve guns. The most famous of recent shootings in Las Vegas, most of the guns found in the hotel room weren't even used in the shooting.

Again: Most guns found in the shooter's hotel room in Vegas were not even used in the incident. It was like they were innocent bystanders. Does that mean they should be banned just because they were there? If you think so you are just crazy. Even the bump stocks that were made so famous in that case, those are usually sold by reputable merchants who own small businesses. But here's the best part: Bump stocks are sold almost exclusively without guns. Without guns! It is just as crazy to assume a bump stock could be used in a shooting without a gun.

People should just wake up and see the facts: Most shootings do not even involve guns.

Kevin Wood
Kevin Wood

Better, but I don't really get how the picture matches up with what I said. Unless you're posting selfies again.

Nolan Gomez
Nolan Gomez

Look, I think it's pretty widely agreed upon that the rate of school shootings in america is unacceptable. What that means is having a *completely open* conversation about what would such shootings in the future. So lets have just that. I'll back whatever law it takes to stop this.

So how does a school shooting happen? A mentally ill child gains access to a firearm capable of killing many in a short frame of time, and then uses it to do so. So here's where we could intervene (add if you think of something):

a) Prevent mental illness: "it's a mental health probelm"
b) Remove access to such a firearm: "it's a gun control problem"
c) Make it impossible for a heavily armed, mentally ill person to kill people: "it's a security problem"

I don't have a definite answer. But lets have the conversation

Aaron Bell
Aaron Bell

No-fly list for you, then.

Ryder Nguyen
Ryder Nguyen

everytime they talk this shit sales go off the chart

Noah Torres
Noah Torres

Well, maybe start with a gun buyback program. If the government offered an absurd $75k for *each* AR-15, people would be fighting to get to the front of the line.

Everybody has a price. It's just time to negotiate it.

Lincoln Carter
Lincoln Carter

i only said semi-auto user; an 18yo can use a bolt action rifle for 3 years and then get an AR

Any 18-20 year old who can afford an AR is almost certainly living with mommy and therefore not really an adult anyway

Ayden James
Ayden James

"NRA Members think US Military sucks".

I like that headline.

Asher Hall
Asher Hall

The vast majority of shootings do not even involve guns

Easton Ross
Easton Ross

How am i gonna be old enough to be drafted, but bot old enough to use a rifle shithead

Owen Gonzalez
Owen Gonzalez

I live in Mexico. Our gun laws make it hard to obtain legal weapons for home defense, even though it is possible and a right. But it it's still practically impossible.

Even then, shooting a home intruder is dangerous and is likely to wind up with you in jail.

Add to this that gun violence and crime is huge, thanks to a thriving black market and the defenselessness of the general population.

I'm a recent father.

I WISH we had your gun laws.

Robert Fisher
Robert Fisher

being this misinformed and yet still trying to argue about the topic

Sebastian Evans
Sebastian Evans

Several mass shootings after Port Arthur but you penal colonists seem to prefer arson murders.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia

Angel Rivera
Angel Rivera

I heard the Russians Hacked your Tinder

Tyler Williams
Tyler Williams

As a teacher in an extremely liberal California town, I can tell you that I wouldn't trust most of my co-workers with a weapon, and our maintenance staff would be incapable of ensuring that those alarms and locks were functioning anyway.

Anthony Stewart
Anthony Stewart

You don't see how buying up more ammo than usual might nake it scarce?

Christopher Richardson
Christopher Richardson

thats honestly a retarded argument. no one has been drafted in your life time. And no one will be.

Evan Nelson
Evan Nelson

Not much to talk about. There’s the rights of Americans that should be universal rights and there’s the world the left wants to make. These two are incompatible

Gavin Turner
Gavin Turner

Why is always about the guns? Why not about the loss of innocent fucking life? I don't think guns should be taken away from Americans (UK Here). Please think of the bigger picture. What if it was your kids, or nieces/nephews.
dont ban guns
The problem is that guns are so widespread it's not hard to get hold of them anymore.

There is no solution.

Dylan Kelly
Dylan Kelly

Did the UK ever have 300 million guns before they banned them?

Does the UK share a massive unprotected land border with a third world cartel ridden shithole like mexico?

Blake Hughes
Blake Hughes

No an 18 yr old is not a kid. They are adults. They are just not as responsible as the generation before them wasn't as responsible as the previous either. It's a societal problem. Kids are coddled more than ever and are closed off from reality. If it were mandatory to join the military for a minimum of 2 yrs upon graduating high. I bet they would grow up real fucking fast.

Kevin Morris
Kevin Morris

Raise the military age to 21

Carter Gomez
Carter Gomez

What happens after it’s scarce?

Robert Perry
Robert Perry

Does the UK share a massive unprotected land border with a third world cartel ridden shithole like mexico?

I mean, the french....

Matthew Nguyen
Matthew Nguyen

Americans will never sell their guns back to the gov like that. Myself included.

Jace Long
Jace Long

link?

Bentley Torres
Bentley Torres

The reason that you have to be 21 to won a handgun is because they are used overwhelmingly over rifles in crimes.

That said, it isn;t logical that you can't buy a 9mm glock with a 7 round mag at 18 but you can buy a 7.62 AK with a 100 round drum mag.

Luis Diaz
Luis Diaz

Look, I don't think you read what I said. No sane person is asking for the ban of all weapons in the united states. Australia isn't like that, America shouldn't be like that. What people are asking for is a way to make schools safe again. That's the only conversation I'm trying to have.

Eli Myers
Eli Myers

www.google.com

Easton Wood
Easton Wood

Its not an argument of whether it will or wont happen. But, the idea that im old ebough to fight and die but, not old enough to buy a beer or own a handgun. Meathead

Caleb Brown
Caleb Brown

We have the guns, you don't tell us where to move, we tell you :)

Ethan Flores
Ethan Flores

Who fucking cares, we're all cattle for the rich anyway.

Sebastian Hall
Sebastian Hall

Do you think Obama sat down one day and decided to buy all of the ammunition?

The process was normal and part of the mormal buying cycle. But the NRA managed to trick all the rubes into thinking there was a shortage.

Jackson Foster
Jackson Foster

It's bait, this whole thread is bait. Why do you think all those pictures and arguments without sources are being posted? It's just a bunch of circle jerking for both sides that delays having to find a solution

Wyatt Parker
Wyatt Parker

More guns

Sebastian Turner
Sebastian Turner

Did australia have 300 million guns?

Did they have guns in their constitution and the sentence 'Shall not be infringed?"

Also, if you hate us so much just ignore us, it's not like we're exporting our mass shootings to you.

Parker Ramirez
Parker Ramirez

So if you live alone and are a responsible 19 y/o, you can’t protect your residence like your 22 y/o neighbor?

Henry Turner
Henry Turner

Not sure where you're going with that. I'm from VT and we have basically zero gun laws. Also, most likely the safest state.

Mason Watson
Mason Watson

Dont be. Arm up and fight back. Assmunch

Lincoln Perez
Lincoln Perez

It's almost as if there's a country that benefits from us having stupid arguments instead of substantive policy debate.

Thomas Smith
Thomas Smith

Oh fuck off with your reductionist argument. The solution obviously isn't to ban guns for the reasons even your retarded ass managed to point out.
I'd rather talk about increasing school subsidies and mental health programs instead of wasting money trying to "take yer' guns!", but I do live in the real world and I know you'd never be open to that sort of discussion either.

tl;dr tiggered.

Hudson Cox
Hudson Cox

Use tax money we all pay to hire contractors to protect schools. Cops have otger things to do, hire private firms with special types of security clearances to protect schools. We all pay taxes and some of it should go to that

Henry Morris
Henry Morris

Kek, true. I agree with you. A 18-20 yr old city kid has no use for an AR or Ak.

Tyler Foster
Tyler Foster

Seems like a good solution, right?

But it's politically untouchable. It's too gun control for the right, not enough for the left

Grayson Watson
Grayson Watson

This is an idiot that knows nothing of war or the holocaust.

Guns don't defend against bombs you faggot, they defend against a round up.
And the second the U.S. Starts using drones against its own people, half the military will leave, and Weapons will come flooding into the country by Americas enemies to support a civil war.

You could put Adolfo Hitler or Joseph Stalin in the White House, and they would never subjugate the American people.

The point is that an American holocaust is impossible.

Henry Richardson
Henry Richardson

They'd be happy just to make it so that lawful gun owners will be hugely inconvenienced with more paperwork of some kind when they go to buy a gun, which will do nothing to stop these psychopaths from continuing to be psychopaths. And honestly that's all libs want. They want to punish people who don't shit their pants at the sight of guns.

Easton Parker
Easton Parker

Actually VT's beaten out by MA and CT, if I recall the list correctly.

Also,t here's like three people in vermont outside of the Mallet's Bay area, so it's not really a good state to hold up as an example of anything.

Jacob Parker
Jacob Parker

Make legal adult 21 then. You know I’m right

Ryan Lewis
Ryan Lewis

What part of "shall not be infringed" did you asshples not understand?

Jack Nelson
Jack Nelson

Our military is the best in the world, and no military on earth, including ours, can outright defeat a nationwide insurgency.

Militaries are made to fight militiaries. there's a limit as to what a military is physically capable of.

We were spread desperately thin trying to control iraq and Afghanistan, and that landmass together is only like 1/4th of the US.

Camden Anderson
Camden Anderson

Nah. The Millitary will just Ender's Game the soldiers until it's too late.

Nathaniel Gonzalez
Nathaniel Gonzalez

There was an armed policeman on the scene at the time of the shooting. He didn't even see the shooter. It would be a damn big cost, and even if it worked, some school shootings are carried out by teachers. The higher the number of guns in a school, the higher the number of accidents.

Plus, I don't want my kids feeling like they're headed into a war zone every day. Granted, if that's what it takes, but still. I'm skeptical it'd work.

Joseph Ortiz
Joseph Ortiz

It's too gun control for the right, not enough for the left
quit acting like gun rights is a left vs right issue, it isnt. im left and im pro gun. several righties are ok with raising the age to 21.

iow, this is an actual compromise that makes nearly everyone happy except for 18 year old faggots that no one cares about anyway

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Nathaniel Wilson

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Robert Roberts
Robert Roberts

Only 1.5% of shootings are due to mass shootings

Thats pretty fuckin bad

Kevin Cox
Kevin Cox

We would go absolutely bankrupt.

And the government considers the reciever to be the regulated firearm. You can get cheap AR recievers for 30 bucks a pop.

hell, if you have am aatuer metal working shop in your garage you can machine AR recievers yourself easily.

I could go out and buy 10 AR recievers for 400 dollars and then go turn them each in for thousands?

Wyatt Thomas
Wyatt Thomas

We were spread desperately thin trying to control iraq and Afghanistan, and that landmass together is only like 1/4th of the US.

Actually, as much of a near-straw liberal as I am, the real answer there is that we didn't commit. Had we actually made the at-home sacrifices we should've, including not passing an unprecidented tax cut, we could've rolled through in a few years.

Samuel Moore
Samuel Moore

hartford and springfield are extremely high up in the country for homicide rate. no way im buying that ma or ct are safer than vt

Bentley Price
Bentley Price

All Im saying is why not have a permenant system in place with the private sector to fund mandatory security 24/7?

Noah Hall
Noah Hall

Thats retarded. Drugs are there to distort your reality, guns only kill. They have literally no other function

Ryder Ward
Ryder Ward

Just saying, I live on 130 acres and have wild pigs ruining my walnut orchard. So I should turn in my AR (perfect pig gun) because I live alone and not 21?

Ryder Perez
Ryder Perez

Negative.

headline would be: People who know what they're talking about, including former military, know that even the greatest military on earth can;t defeat nationwide insurgencies.

Nicholas Rogers
Nicholas Rogers

We all want schools to be safe. The thing of it is, that the gun free school zone act has been law since 1994. That's 24 yrs of a signed document that does not prevent an armed person from entering a school.

Tyler Baker
Tyler Baker

I know more than a few perfectly sane gay people who hate the fact that they're automatically grouped together with those fucking mental case trannies

Michael Hill
Michael Hill

They're only high reletive to reletively peaceful Boston and Providence.

Nolan Barnes
Nolan Barnes

uit acting like gun rights is a left vs right issue

It is though, at least for the people in charge. The politicians, both side, love this stuff. They love issues. Neither side has the desire to do anything about them. And the issues with no actual solution, i.e. fake issues like mass shootings being a problem or man-made climate change, are the best. They like these issues because it gets the plebs riled up. It divides us up into voting blocs which is beneficial to them.

Nathaniel Wilson
Nathaniel Wilson

Be afraid bro. Just a few more big mass shootings & the government will come door to door to take your guns. The dumbass majority will support it too. Part of the Globalists plan all along.

Andrew Brown
Andrew Brown

This is the dumbest goddamn thing i've read all day.

Sebastian Barnes
Sebastian Barnes

No, use your dads gun. I shot plenty of skunks getting in the trash can with my dads 12 gauge when I was 14 or 15, its called old fashioned common sense and non-shitty parenting

John Allen
John Allen

Wait and see

Caleb Johnson
Caleb Johnson

Less niggers in new england
that is all

Jack Turner
Jack Turner

Haven't you retards been saying that since Sandy Hook?

John Diaz
John Diaz

How many percent of murders?
There are mIre murders than people who are fatally shot

Jaxon Brown
Jaxon Brown

politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/nra-guns-second-amendment-106856?o=1

"Many are startled to learn that the U.S. Supreme Court didn’t rule that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual’s right to own a gun until 2008, when District of Columbia v. Heller struck down the capital’s law effectively banning handguns in the home. In fact, every other time the court had ruled previously, it had ruled otherwise."

Leo Taylor
Leo Taylor

Have you BEEN to Dorchester? Boston has black people, we just put them in a pen as far away from the Back Bay as possible.

Aiden Ward
Aiden Ward

<---Don't ban guns till Orange Pedo-
Incestuous Racist Fat fuck gets shot
in his fucking head, along with all little
white racists, time is now. minorities
carry your guns, when you see little
white racist, approach and shoot him
in the head. no mercy...

Landon Parker
Landon Parker

Republicans are the ones constantly voting to take away veteran's benefits.
The GOP doesn't give one fraction of a fuck about vets.

Eli Mitchell
Eli Mitchell

there is no solution. That's why this has been going for decades now.

The country is literally split in half. Until one side is a small enough minority to just be trampled over and forced to concede, there will never be a solution.

Ethan Hughes
Ethan Hughes

Then should we lower the legal age to buy a handgun to 18?

Landon Sullivan
Landon Sullivan

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Tyler Wright
Tyler Wright

on Cred Forums
censors dick

Jason Gray
Jason Gray

How many people continue to die from drugs because there illegal
Oh wait......

Isaiah Martinez
Isaiah Martinez

I'm so glad you're mad. I'm even gladder than you're going to be mad for 7 more years. This is so fucking great.

Jonathan Smith
Jonathan Smith

My point is drones are not the be all and end all of combat. They did not render small arms obsolete. They have a specific use but small arms are still 1000 times more useful. The threat of drones means nothing.

Thomas Evans
Thomas Evans

What do you mean by pretty fucking bad? Like 1.5% is a big number?

Chase Martin
Chase Martin

80% of so called democrats are actually right-wingers. obama and clinton are both right-wingers

bernie sanders, an ACTUAL leftist, was pro-gun rights.

Hudson Smith
Hudson Smith

I live in CA. It is a felony to use another’s gun, even a relatives. And pigs at 100 yards.... that’s not shot gun range. They run fast, no time for a bolt action. Nothing to do with my parents.

Caleb Sanders
Caleb Sanders

You're right. They'd get PTSD by just the thought of it, let alone it being installed

Ian Turner
Ian Turner

U R gay, n00b

Jose Wood
Jose Wood

put up a fence, homo

Cameron Perez
Cameron Perez

Idiocy
a single school marshal with a room full of camera monitors would be enough to deter/thwart school massacres. They put sky marshals on planes, why not in schools.
The kid could get a few students maybe before facing a trained lawman who will have already seen him on camera and will have the upper hand. The students would never have to see the marshal day to day. He'd just be in the marshal office, which students wouldn't need to know the exact location of in the administration building.
Way better solution than having armed guards that will just be picked off first.

Chase Cox
Chase Cox

Bernie was a fucking sellout who'd suck anyone's dick for attention, democrats, republicans, greens.

Fuck Burnie, and fuck his shitty fanboy army.

Tyler Green
Tyler Green

Hell yeah

David Stewart
David Stewart

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Robert Lewis
Robert Lewis

Nope. Keep that shit. Most of the people that own ARs are perfect for pigs, coyotes, catamounts. Most leftists think that every AR owner is a gun nut waiting to loose their shit.

Jack Taylor
Jack Taylor

But they are. They're both tools used to do something. They're both capable of being used as killing tools.

Thomas Jenkins
Thomas Jenkins

That was the stupidest post ever. You must work for the NRA.

Xavier Ward
Xavier Ward

that's the way i found it on B months ago

Obviously it's a shame shield

Blake Edwards
Blake Edwards

Terrified about terrorism and Muslim immigrants
74 Americans die each year from terrorism (if you don't include 9/11, which was a one time thing, it's actually about 1 per year)
11000 gun homicides in the USA each year
No problem
Republicans and right wing cucks are fucking retarded.

Isaac Foster
Isaac Foster

someone sold my phone

Ayden Walker
Ayden Walker

Bernie was a fucking sellout
nah, if youre referring to him supporting hillary after the democratic convention, he explicitly said thats what he would do very early in his campaign

Elijah Howard
Elijah Howard

Interesting that you're so upset about people suggesting Russian influence on this board. Not shills in general, but specifically Russian.

Everyone needs to be aware that Cred Forums is absolutely a target. This person might be one of them, or just a useful idiot they have infected with their propaganda. The only way to counter it: when discussing social or political issues on here, always keep in the back of your mind "would it be in the Russian regime's interest for me to think xyz?"

Adam Long
Adam Long

Well California is just fucked in general. An illegal shot a girl desd and got off the hook by psychopathic leftists in the jury so that state is pretty much done anyway

Aaron Butler
Aaron Butler

No one is going door to door taking guns. That is the literal reason the 2nd amendment was written.

Adam Nelson
Adam Nelson

Then you better up the minimum age for military service to the same. Otherwise you're a dipshit.

Jayden Jones
Jayden Jones

No, I'm referring to him conviniently starting to caucus with the dems after he starts running for president. If he had real balls he would've run as an actual independant.

Anthony Jones
Anthony Jones

i said no only idiots do that

Samuel Long
Samuel Long

Elementary school teacher here, and this is pretty much the most common sense answer to the problem. And the problem, which most people seem to be unable to correctly identify, is that society seems to be producing an increased number of psychopaths who want to murder as many defenseless people as possible, which is why they choose places like movie theaters and schools. Most schools already operate in constant lockdown as far as exterior doors go. At my school you have to be buzzed in by the secretary after you state your business to the camera. All of the high schools and middle schools in my district have high walls or fences, and the entrance to the campuses have a security booth. What needs to happen next is the building needs to have a small security staff. After 8 when the students are in, anyone entering the building needs to go through a metal detector. This is how city and county courthouses have been since 2001. It's time for schools to be the same way.

Benjamin Brown
Benjamin Brown

theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1823016659

Nathaniel Gomez
Nathaniel Gomez

Oh my fucking god. The left ARE the people crying about homeless veterans. They're not the ones "reforming" the va

Carter Wright
Carter Wright

Then up the minimum age of military service the same.

Jayden Thompson
Jayden Thompson

Look at how mad you are.

You must be absolutely crushed in our current political structure.

Get used to it.

Grayson Reed
Grayson Reed

I agree.

Dylan Gonzalez
Dylan Gonzalez

splotch

Jace Torres
Jace Torres

splotch

Kevin Allen
Kevin Allen

look how hard you took the copypasta bait you fucking retard

Landon Gray
Landon Gray

Will you quit spewing out numbers like that please. 62% of those 11000 are suicides. 2nd leading cause of gun deaths are one spouse killing another.

Wyatt Ortiz
Wyatt Ortiz

Crying, but not doing anything about it.

Camden Evans
Camden Evans

pretty sure he caucused with democrats for many years

Alexander Gomez
Alexander Gomez

We're not terrified of islamic terror, we're trying to get YOU guys scared of islamic terror so we can deport all the muslims and keep the country tilted in our favor as to serve us politically and so we retain our majority population.

it makes sense you dumb shit.

Chase Carter
Chase Carter

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David Martin
David Martin

тнaпкs

Samuel Morales
Samuel Morales

If it's simply bait then why are you so hostile? Shouldn't you be laughing?

naw, because you're pissed off.

Daniel Harris
Daniel Harris

Ironiic shitposting is still shitposting.

Zachary Ross
Zachary Ross

i don't know. it's a mystery.

Levi Perez
Levi Perez

Why don't all the people who want strict gun laws just move to CA? Problem solved. The Republicans have no problem with libs moving there. It would be paradise for you.

Zachary Anderson
Zachary Anderson

Sensible laws banning further sale of such weapons or mandatory training and a test to acquire a license to own said weapons.

b-b-but the ones already out there
Yeah, can't do much. You can stop it from getting worse.

Wanting sensible laws on guns does not mean take your guns any more than requiring you to show you can drive a car and have insurance means people want to take your cars

Kayden Gomez
Kayden Gomez

What is your solution? So far, the contribution of the NRA and the right has been to shut down every solution that was brought by the table, which makes it sound like you stand by all these deaths.

Aaron Sullivan
Aaron Sullivan

Because usually a mass shooting is against completely innocent people, whereas other types of gun confrontations can usually be avoided if you stay out of street gangs and organized crime.

Jaxson Sanchez
Jaxson Sanchez

probably twice as many school knifings as the US

Gavin Barnes
Gavin Barnes

BUT WHATABOUT

Zachary Butler
Zachary Butler

See you are just making yourself seem stupid.

Gun ownership is over 42% of households in America. Even Canada has over 20%.

You would destroy the country with your idiot Aussie fantasies.

Josiah Turner
Josiah Turner

As representatives of gun owners in the US, the NRA has a responsibility to denounce anyone who contributed to irresponsible use of a firearm. Mass shootings put the 2nd Amendment in jeopardy. To that end the NRA should work to consol the grieving and offer apologies for society's failure to keep irresponsible gun owners from abusing their rights. The NRA does nothing but make excuses.

Adrian Morgan
Adrian Morgan

like you said these guns are out there. so were at a point where we cannot go back and that is not going to change for a long time. the problem is complex and ingrained in our society and connects to multiple issues but we are not so far gone that we cant make changes to how things work because right now this is allowed to happen by the system and our society. i think if it continues people will find that eventually the root issue doesnt come down to weapons but the people themselves and how people are regulated.

Joseph Sanders
Joseph Sanders

This is not the UK. The whole reason we fought the revolutionary war was to sever ourselves from tyranny. Or does that even matter to you?

Dominic Davis
Dominic Davis

you can’t remove them from society
it's been done countless times in numerous countries. when are you going to get it into your thick skull that IT'S BEEN DONE!!!!

Noah Nelson
Noah Nelson

Why don't we legalize all drugs then and see how many more people die of OD or end up in the streets after buying heroin and crack over the counter, moron? :^)

It's like you guys can't accept that something has an effect unless the effect is completely perfect. It's so intellectually dishonest.

Murder is illegal and murders happen. Should we legalize murder so that we stop criminalizing the law abiding murders who only murder for good reasons? What about terrorism? Some terrorism can be good, right? Let's just abolish all laws, crouton.

Logan Jenkins
Logan Jenkins

The US is a pretty tyrannical country and rates low in most freedoms. The point of the revolutionary war was not to get guns and the fastest firing gun at the time was about 2 per minutes and they were small round balls.

Compare that to a gun that can make a mans head explode like a melon and fire a shot a second

Chase Phillips
Chase Phillips

Mass shooters are democrats though

Jose Baker
Jose Baker

I'm about as far right libertarian as one can be but there are actually 2 very simple solutions OP that would mostly end the problem.
(1) Allow a private industry to take over backhround checks because the FBI and ATF are grossly incompetent
used to work at firearms counter in outdoor sports store
run background check on a guy wanting to buy a rifle
cleared
sell rifle
guy comes back about 5 months later to buy a shotgun
"fill out this form sir"
"i gotta do this again?"
"yes sir. any time a firearm goes from my hand to yours"
"you ever have anybody lie on these?"
"sure. the background check usually catches them. if the ATF audits us and checks forms and finds you lied on this form you could be charged with fraud"
"oh. well shit. better mark this yes this time"
marks yes to being charged with domestic violence
tells me it for getting drunk and beating his ex wife years ago
"sorry sir. if you've marked yes to a history of violent crime i have to deny you purchase"
customer throws a goddamn fit and tells me he'll never be back.
The FBI cleared him on a previous purchase abd shouldn't have. The entire background check system is run by a handful of disgruntled incompetent FBI agents shoved in a closet somewhere. Just about any private organization would handle it better.
(2) Change the definiton of mentally deficient
having a perscription for anitdepressants or bipolar medication doesnt deny you purchase
having a perscription for barbitruates or opiates doesnt disqualify you while a perscriptio for medicianl marijuana does
I'm all for gun rights but there are A LOT of looney motherfuckers getting guns that shouldnt be getting guns. The whole goddamn system needs a major reform and it should begin with taking power and authority away from the FBI and ATF to enforce gun laws and run background checks. They fuck up every goddamn thing and if they don't get their shit together they're going to ruin it for everybody.

Brayden Allen
Brayden Allen

Yeah, most people go through that training when they're young. It's called hunters safety.

Chase Davis
Chase Davis

Excuses are for people who did something wrong. The NRA did nothing wrong

Nicholas Sanchez
Nicholas Sanchez

Why don't we legalize all drugs
agreed. until then, i am going to protect my stash with my guns

Cooper Murphy
Cooper Murphy

Citing Canada as an example
Has sweeping gun control policies that are being effectively enforced
Citizens are still allowed to own guns for self defense if they go through the proper procedures
Has had something like 3 mass shootings in the past 30 years
Feels good to be a "fucking leaf". You burgercunts will never know what it's like to be able to get out of your house and not fear getting shot down by a maniac.

Jacob Nguyen
Jacob Nguyen

warning from over seas about the plan

Anthony Powell
Anthony Powell

Yea in Nazi Germany. Go fuck yourself

Isaac Morris
Isaac Morris

the plan

Jackson Johnson
Jackson Johnson

Damn. This is the "law abiding gun owner" the NRA keeps talking about: A drug addict willing to shoot down innocent government officials just for doing their job.

No wonder the US is so fucked up.

Andrew Hill
Andrew Hill

Do you think taking ARs away will stop the shootings. Do you know what someone can do with a 22 rifle and a bunch of ammo? When that happens are you going to ban those as well? Maybe we should just go back to duels with flintlock pistols.

Asher Walker
Asher Walker

always leads back to the democrats

Ethan Cox
Ethan Cox

I'm about as far right libertarian as one can
thanks for letting me know so early so i could ignore everything else you said. you probably said something really fucking retarded too, like privatize background checks

Christopher Morales
Christopher Morales

lmao

Carter Bell
Carter Bell

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Henry Scott
Henry Scott

probably
you make a wild assumption based on your personal bias, and now you believe it to be a fact. how about proving it with some statistics? like some statistics that proves that uk's knife violence is on par or greater than usa's knife+gun violence? you have to prove that knives simply replace guns, instead of lowering the death count.

i bet you can't do it.

Christian Hill
Christian Hill

politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/nra-guns-second-amendment-106856

Mason Mitchell
Mason Mitchell

9

Joseph Myers
Joseph Myers

hitler loosened the gun laws. fact check your /pol/ memes.

Matthew Robinson
Matthew Robinson

A drug addict
nope. i use modest amounts only on the weekend. this is a victimless crime, and i am a fully productive member of society. leave me the fuck alone, or risk me violently defending my life and LIBERTY

Jose Taylor
Jose Taylor

and have the government confiscate all of these types of guns?

bingo!

Connor Allen
Connor Allen

You have to draw the line somewhere. I know banning ARs won't prevent all mass shootings but it's retarded not to try and see if it won't reduce their amount considering they're completely overkill as self-defense weapons. Mass shooters probably want to use assault rifles because it's a lot more "sexy" and it's a lot safer for them as well if they can take down all their potential enemies in one sweeping pull of the trigger.

Jaxon Turner
Jaxon Turner

The government has ur name and address when u buy a gun unless it’s a private sale at a gun show or something. They can come to ur house and take it. But I’m sure a lot of police officials would be killed going to Jim’s house to take away his ar15 with his 90 shot magazine

Carter Ross
Carter Ross

splotchTime stamps or it didn't happen.

Luke Garcia
Luke Garcia

face it britains knife homicides are double the US. And when you only look at homicides by white people, the US is safer than britain

Eli Cruz
Eli Cruz

1. You're breaking the law. Therefore you are overstepping your liberty.
2. You are willing to kill just for your drugs. That means you not only have a serious drug problem, regardless of how functional you are with it, but also that you're a dangerous psychopath.

I can't believe I have to actually make that point.

I hope you're on a watchlist you bloodthirsty fuckwit.

Zachary Sanchez
Zachary Sanchez

go

Aaron Campbell
Aaron Campbell

Do you know what the Puckle Gun is? Look it up. It was invented a half century before our independence. Futhermore, do you think our founding fathers didn't realize weapon technology was going to increase in the future?

Anthony King
Anthony King

Which is not a requirement.

Christopher Russell
Christopher Russell

no other function
Drugs exist to remove your headaches, prevent you from having pain, help treat cancer and the AIDS you got by taking it up the ass from the black community.

Guns exist to hunt, shoot for sport (an olympic sport mind you), and yes, defend yourselves and other people.

Some people choose to make drugs which have distortional properties, like meth, cocaine, heroin, etc. Some people choose to make guns designed to kill, like military-issue rifles, etc.

But don't EVER think that they have just one purpose.

Adrian Bennett
Adrian Bennett

Whose running? Watch him trickle down-river

Blake Wilson
Blake Wilson

"lol"

Cameron Barnes
Cameron Barnes

lol

Ryan Rogers
Ryan Rogers

they're completely overkill as self-defense weapons
Name one thing that makes them overkill

one sweeping pull of the trigger.
oh, are you one of those retards that thinks ARs are full auto? gtfo

Cameron Martinez
Cameron Martinez

keep sucking that government cock user

James Bell
James Bell

whats so funny?

Easton Bennett
Easton Bennett

Once again, this is the United States, not Canada. Canada is pretty much France for north america. Go eat some poutine

Thomas Smith
Thomas Smith

1. You're breaking the law. Therefore you are overstepping your liberty.
liberating slaves was at one point "breaking the law"
enforcing unjust laws is TYRANNY
guns are explicitly a protected right for the purpose of FIGHTING TYRANNY

Blake Bailey
Blake Bailey

whats so runny?

Noah Jenkins
Noah Jenkins

Solution:
No more police, no more bureaucracy, it's as archaic as kings and queens, every adult 13+ is to be armed, everyone is responsible for justice, real equality, no centralization of power.

Sebastian Scott
Sebastian Scott

Government buy back. $350 or average price and turn in to police stations for a period of 1 year. Afterwards and possession is illegal and mandatory jail time of 20 years.

Easton Cook
Easton Cook

I kind of expected to get to get that detail wrong but I didn't expect for someone to be stupid enough to think it matters.

Semi-automatic is overkill.

Gavin Kelly
Gavin Kelly

The NRA is funded by Russia. Ergo you're a traitor, and should be shot.

Joshua Allen
Joshua Allen

Except a truck hauls things. Anything more offensive than a hunting rifle or hunting shotgun is made with the express purpose of inflicting harm on another human.

Also, why does nobody ever mention Canada as a good model of gun legislation? It's literally ours but better (like most things Canadian).
tiered weapons
need to pass increasingly stringent safety and background checks to own higher tiered weapons
absolutely banned weapons are the same as ours plus a few sensible additions
their government is actually allowed to study gun violence, unlike America
dramatically less firearm deaths by any kind of firearm, of any kind of death, per 100,000 than USA

And I'm a gun owner, I live in a neighborhood where I want to have defense for my family, but there's a line between "this is defense" and "this is an unnecessary amount of firepower."

Nathan Smith
Nathan Smith

What government officials are you talking about?

Eli Richardson
Eli Richardson

No you're not entitled to decide that a law is tyranny if it only serves your personal interests to do so. That's not how laws work. What you're doing it being a felon and threatening to kill people who will try to stop you from committing a felony. You are a dangerous maniac and I would feel no qualm about seeing you getting taken away for 25 years. Because you deserve it. It's never gonna be any other way. Deal with it.

Luis Flores
Luis Flores

I plan on buying a several semi automatic rifles when I turn 18 in 2 months. All this gun ban stuff is creeping me out. Oppression starts from a unarmed civilian population

Zachary Perry
Zachary Perry

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Caleb Edwards
Caleb Edwards

There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to personal safety and the safety of your family.

Isaac Bailey
Isaac Bailey

Day 2 of my anarcho capitalist utopia:
The white supremacists have formed an autocratic government and have instated armed checkpoints at every street corner.
Tomorrow, I will be executed for watching anime porn instead of breeding with a white woman, as I am allegedly weakening the human race.
Still worth it tho because we told those liberal government tyrants off.

Andrew Cooper
Andrew Cooper

wriggle thems deadies for a puppetshoe

Sebastian Walker
Sebastian Walker

Except nobody with a brain has been advocating or has ever advocated for gun bans, you underage shit. That's a lie the NRA tells to rile its base. Even Obama never once said "let's take all the guns."

Jacob White
Jacob White

We could learn how to live with more home invasions and car jackers, yeah.

Ayden Sanders
Ayden Sanders

I don't want to ban firearms. Only the extreme left wants that. I just want a society that doesn't encourage, allow, or radicalize young men to kill others.

I think in our society, and especially on the right, there are a lot of people who fetishize firearms to an unhealthy degree. People who think any change in the way things happen in America is a personal attack and a war against the constitution. People who believe that all liberals are out to "take muh guns away". Stop doing that, and realize we are all people with different ideas about how we can all contibute to exist together. We won't always agree on how, but that doesnt mean we hate America.

As for gun control itself, there is no simple solution, but mandatory weapon training as a requirement for purchase would be a good step forward, and would contribute to the Ready and Standing Militia concept that many Firearm-Enthusiasts insist is the spirit behind the 2nd amendment.

Tyler Russell
Tyler Russell

Murder rates per 100,000

USA 94th. 4.88
UK 183rd. 0.92

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Samuel Price
Samuel Price

Then the same could be said of laws that are meant to ensure my personal safety and the safety of my family.

Oh but that self-entitling logic doesn't work when it's against your political agenda, does it?

Nathaniel Gomez
Nathaniel Gomez

90 shot magazine? What hole did you just crawl out of

Levi Gonzalez
Levi Gonzalez

william cooper

Parker Sullivan
Parker Sullivan

the solution is:
change the contiturion (make another amendment)
require psychological testing
apply for background check
pay for both
if u pass, u get the gun license
any1, who has guns is required to have it
any1 caught without it, but with guns goes to prison
assumption of innocence - police doesnt do raids, just in case citizens have guns. Ppl can report eachother - snitch on rednecks. If u r an upstanding citizen, u get the license to legitimize your guns

Daniel Turner
Daniel Turner

Semi-automatic is overkill.
lolwut. for a self defense weapon anything less than semi-auto is pretty fucking weak, you stupid faggot

Kevin Rogers
Kevin Rogers

More like whoever says this line gets whacked

Luis Allen
Luis Allen

There is at the point that it's not effective self defense. Any firearm expert will tell you a handgun is more than enough to deter an attacker.

Owen Roberts
Owen Roberts

semi-automatic is overkill
so... pretty much every gun? that's why the lefts arguments are so quickly dismissed and ignored. you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

Christopher Hernandez
Christopher Hernandez

How are you people taking his comment seriously? Some of you people just wait for the moment you can let all your rage out. Grow a pair you pussy.

Ryder Bailey
Ryder Bailey

How is it constitutional to forbid people with mental disorders to own firearms for their self defense?

You have to use a solution that applies to everyone, not just the citizens you decide aren't trustworthy. Otherwise you're in a much more legally brittle terrain.

William James
William James

I meant to say, this quoted post above me is intentional bullshit miss-information intended to kill the bad dies

French-fry? I'm hingry...

Jace Jackson
Jace Jackson

another assertion without any evidence. am i supposed to take your word for it based on face value? because your face doesn't hold that much currency.

where's your evidence?

Nolan Lee
Nolan Lee

a person, who does not hurt anyone, who does not infringe on another persons liberty, is a "felon"

But a person, who for literally no reason, violently stops a person from a relaxing thing he does after a work week, and will kill him if he resists, is A-OK

its pretty obvious youre a fascist

Levi Bell
Levi Bell

just a shame knife and acid attacks are now through the roof isn't it.

Zachary Harris
Zachary Harris

if i cherry pick i get the results i want

Carson Brown
Carson Brown

you do know that one of the most popular hunting rifles on the market is an AR-15 right? It's especially popular for predator hunting like pumas and coyote. it's a lightweight platform that won't break your back to carry while hiking for miles through the woods and because it's so modular you can use one rifle for anything from hunting rabbits and squirrels to hunting bear.

Nicholas Allen
Nicholas Allen

Nice Godfather reference.

Oliver Wilson
Oliver Wilson

evidence?

Zachary Anderson
Zachary Anderson

duuuh ban on all powerful guns/ammo =/= gun ban

Matthew Rivera
Matthew Rivera

it's a mental health problem
no people with mental health problems should get to own guns
You can only pick one.

Jordan Richardson
Jordan Richardson

gun license

Haha! Foreign faggot.

Austin Powell
Austin Powell

I didn't write the law. I'm just saying you're not entitled to break it, then kill the people whose job is to enforce it.

I don't care that you're on drugs. What I think is disgusting is that you think it's morally justifiable to kill police officers for trying to arrest you for it. You chose to do drugs and it's their job to arrest you for it. They don't deserve to pay with their lives for your shitty choices.

You're acting like the world revolves around your navel.

Sebastian Watson
Sebastian Watson

if no1 has a right to have a gun, its not unconstitutional.
If they have mental disorders, it means they cant be trusted to have them.
How can u call yourself moral, if your country isnt giving away guns to retards and crazies, so they can protect themselves?
u dont atack them. How can u make it constitutional to let every1 have guns to attack crazy retards?

Chase Gray
Chase Gray

No, but if you want to learn how to use a firearm safely, take the class. Think of it like sex ed. You know you want to fuck some pussy, but when they show you all the shit that can go wrong. You change your mind real quick on the safety of it.

Aiden Long
Aiden Long

So what you're telling me, is that a handgun is meant solely to inflict harm? It can't ever be used for sport (it is) or even for simple fun (it is)? That anything other than pump or bolt action firearms, is just meant to kill? Well shit, I better just go kill some people then, get my money's worth, if that's all they're good for.

Oh and by the way, I can hit and kill someone with a truck a hell of a lot easier than attempting to shoot someone.

Logan Phillips
Logan Phillips

ALOT more people are crazy than you think. Like WAAAAY more people than you think are crazy. Can't use pyscological proefficiency tests.

Jason Bennett
Jason Bennett

People with mental health problems should be able to get treatment without paying out the ass for it. Now we would be talking about a real solution.

David Evans
David Evans

Yes, they were aware things would change in the future, user

That is why they made the constitutional ammendable instead of a document that can't ever be changed.

Do you 100% believe that the founding fathers intended you to own an uzi?

Blake Reed
Blake Reed

no mentally feeble people can own guns???

well... that just about disqualifies the entire army and police force in one swing!

Brandon Peterson
Brandon Peterson

The solution is limiting legal production of rounds not commonly used for hunting.

Charles Morales
Charles Morales

Agreed, 110%, but people who haven't received treatment shouldn't be allowed firearms at all.

Wyatt Bailey
Wyatt Bailey

also: we dont assume evert1 is a guilty criminal and therefore every1 needs gun for self defence
whats pepper spray

Levi Nelson
Levi Nelson

What laws are you talking about? Can I have an example? You seem a little tense their bud. Breathe or you're going pass out.

Aiden Miller
Aiden Miller

no national health care is the ameican dream

Zachary Howard
Zachary Howard

Retards and crazies
I would bet 50% of people here have a history of depression, anxiety, hyperactivity or have for some reason been on psychotrope medication for at least a part of their life.

Psychiatric problems are commonplace. Where do we draw the line?

Henry Thompson
Henry Thompson

feel free to pick from these and dozens of others....

mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/world/europe/britain-uk-knife-violence.html

google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/07/14/europe/acid-attacks-london-numbers-trnd/index.html

Ethan Thomas
Ethan Thomas

As a direct comparison, do more people die from these "through the roof" acid and knife attacks?
Or is it guns?
Now you made the point so how about you go and get the statistics and show the rest of the class.

John King
John King

at the 50%, apparently
I wouldnt trust u with a gun, or those 50% of sick fucks

Sebastian Campbell
Sebastian Campbell

I mean I should feel entitled to push for sweeping gun control and/or bans if I believe that will make me and my family safer.

That would be the tyranny of safety over liberty, right?

Well right now we have the opposite: The tyranny of self-appointed defenders of liberty over the safety of the average citizen.

Jose Wood
Jose Wood

Honestly. They should change the age to purchase guns. Less school shootings. 18 is pretty young if you can’t buy cigarettes where I’m from till your 19. Can’t drink till your 21 and can’t rent a car till your 25. Why not make the age to buy and own a weapon 25

Tyler Stewart
Tyler Stewart

No. If you do that they won't seek treatment. You're stigmatising mental illness. It won't help

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