ITT: industry plants

not really tho I would like to be adopted by some finnish nerd

White women can't be industry plants

>Below 3/5 average on every release on rym
Trash

>albozerg
>white

off yourself

Albanians aren't white.

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>Albanian
>White
Ahahah

das good white ppl are cucks

Are you sayin' she some sort of thot n shit?

Shqip bitch sucks cock when?

like last vweek dude u missed it

not that I disagree that she's trash but

>rym scoes having any cred
off yourself

t. triggered poltards

>dua lip-a
did mark e. smith give her this nickname after she sucked him off?

*sucks you off*
nothing personal kid

They look pretty white to me

the ones on the sides are clearly gypsoids. the two middle ones are hard to discern due to lighting but I would presume they are too

Do people II'm guessing Americans) really think having slightly tanned skin or not completely pale white skin somehow stop you from being white? I've got family from Turkey all of which identify as being "white" but look similar to dua lipa in terms of skin colour and hair. I guess it just comes down to what people perceive as white in different cultures.

>Turkey
>white
my sides

>gypsoids
Off yourself, fuck people from Cred Forums are dumb.

literally everyone hates albanians dude

>He thinks Turkey is one homologous race
Your American is showing

>roach
>white

holy shit

The European bit of Turkey is definitely white because for the most part it's just assimilated Bulgarians.

>bulgarians
>white
please stop

>15 million assimilated bulgars in istanbul

i dont think so, beton

Stop being such a fucking moron

LOZENGRAD IS ETHNIC BULGARIAN CLAY

>this thread

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Find me a single rym score that proves it otherwise.

Most singles and EP's have disappointing scores because RYM focuses too much on albums.

>ywn suck that delicous tongue of hers

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Legit i've been too Turkey about 7 times and Turkish women are ridiculously hot, it gets more conservative the further east.

damn she's cute

For each Anzujaamu they have like 10 butiful melikes.

I would say Justine Frischman but it's not the 90's anymore.

can wejust get more pics of her pls

slutty and cute is the best combo

>we want the instagram thot demographic

Every alb*nian should be hanged from a tree.

>he doesn't like thots

What will Cred Forums do when it realizes the SS categorized turks and albanians as Aryan and not turbofolk shitters

the SS also had ukrainian and russian units yet generalplan ost is still a thing

its almost like in times of war manpower is more important than ideology

really gets the noggin joggin

But at the same time Hitler preferred Islam.

>During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic conquest of Gaul and was now convinced that "the world would be Mohammedan today" if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours,[207] while also suggesting to Speer that "ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[207] Hitler said that the Germans would have become heirs to "a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and in subjugating all nations to that faith. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the German temperament."[208]

I always forget that literal nazis are on this board, it's weird to think nazis or those with similar ideology exist.

You get used to daily death threats from nazis. It's normal here.

>literal nazis
Faggot socialists are everywhere now days.

yeah i can make random numbers up too

Im Albanian and whiter than all you polmutts

the only time you've seen a white person is when you picked their pockets you subhuman

show your skin I show mine nigger

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>th(o)at
>hot

t. goatfucker

t. virgen

you're going to die alone

where the fuck did that come from lmao

So besides this blatant thot, does Albania have any actually good music up their sleeves?

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What?

serb masterrace

>gypsoids
You have got to be kidding me

*loses kosovo like a little bitch*

>smartest in europe, thus smartest in the whole world
music for this feel?

>gypsoid

Gypsoid
Level 4
Machine type
ATK: 800
DEF: 1700

FLIP: Steal one card from the opponent's hand and one Level 4 or under monster card on the opponent's side of the field. If the opponent regains control of either card, this monster is destroyed.

some mongolian throat singing, pekka

>Machine type
*beast warrior

DELET THIS

i want to make her kiss my dick and deepthroat it

What's Albania's opinion on Do-A-Leap-A?

yas queen slay
i just like fapping to her sometimes

I fucking hate the dumb open-mouth thing they tell models and therefore other actress/singer types to do.

It always, always looks unnatural, and when it is poorly executed like in this photo, it makes her look completely stupid and ridiculous. It goes from "Good looking woman" to "Good looking woman degraded/made worse by her stupid attempt at forced sexy 'pouting' which is a bitchy and unattractive behavior to begin with".

>thus smartest in the whole world

You're not from Asia, sorry.

>Gypsoids
Fuck, Cred Forums just keep trying to make up new races.

>literal Turkish people
>muh "are they white"?
LMFAO no.

White means Northern Europe and the UK, nothing more.

God I love her face and lips. Every time I see her I just want to place my cock on them. If only she had a bigger ass. She'd be a 10

White means caucasian, but nice try Cred Forumstard.

she has small tits but her ass is ok

Turks aren't Caucasian, so it's weird to call them white. They're simply Turkic/Mongoloid.

stupid bitch.
fuckin slut...

He actually is.

Finland isn't located in Asia.

PROTIP: They all are.

Every single fucking one. There hasn't been a legit artist in a hundred years.

Well, until now.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

why are so mean?

For some reason i find her lips really disgusting

You said that you're the smartest and i agreed, it's just that you're from asia. The picture explains it.

The average IQ is, by definition, 100

>northern europeans
>white

I >:(
I feel her sexuality is a power move.

>people
>white

>[W]hy should the Palatine Boors be suffered to swarm into our Settlements, and by herding together establish their Language and Manners to the Exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

>Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.
- Benjamin Franklin

Can you get anymore wrong and uneducated, You motherfuckers wouldn't classify someone like Orlando Bloom, Russel Brand or PJ Harvey as white despite being ethically British.

albaniggers should be physically removed from existence, dupa zhopa included.

Benjo is a moron.

>British
>posts a jew

if this isn't a bait picture, i've lost faith in humanity if someone made this seriously thinking they were correct.

how new are you

He's not jewish you moron dark hair isn't exclusive to Jewish people.

careful with that edge eugene

>dupa zhopa
idk why but this couple of words is so funny to read. lmaoing like a madman now.

Have the more up to date version.

What's wrong about it? In theory, it should all be true.

both are swear worlds in slavic

i know. it means "ass", does it?

bloom is a jew, but then again brits recently reconstructed ancien briton aka cheddar man and he was a nigger.

Apparently something like 5% of Americans are sympathetic towards nazism, which amounts to 15 million people in total.

If you wouldn't do her, you're not into women. Her music is great pop stuff, by the way. She's not an industry plant.

Nah she is, Mommy and Dada bought her everything she needed to be successful. From simple shit like lessons, to modeling placements, recording contracts, etc. She's lucky she's hot, other than that though, her music manages to follow the repeated process of bubble pop that exist following Ariana Grande, Selena Gomez, and also most recently Camila. Nothing unique or worthwhile, she will be successful for the next 10 years and dropped off at 30 just like the others, the way god intended the pop life cycle.

>he was a nigger
He wasn't he had dark skin, Straight Hair and light eyes, this was during very early human migration. You make it sound like he was sub-saharan or something.

Even if he has somepart jewish lineage whether it be ethnically or just religiously, it doesn't stop him from being British or white.

How's that being an industry plant, though? Having your family help you out is one thing, and it's also normal, having everything handed out to you on a silver platter is another, which she didn't have. She rose to fame because people like her stuff.

Man Cred Forums and their retardation really came out the woodwork in this thread. Is this what happens when you post an Albanian or something?

>if you dont like albanian subhumans you must be from Cred Forums

>caring about singles
fucking retard

you can post charli poo in loo for same effect. but she is already too old and unattractive, so dua is new "ethnic"&plastic industry trash.

Have you not seen the politics in this thread you moron?

Man i like Cred Forums but when i come here i want to get away from all that shit. Like the world is fucked we get it, i just wanna discuss music.

What is it about americans and getting triggered on behalf of other nations/people?

>Which she didn't have
Please explain to me how she surfaced a Vevo video with no previous career entries and got over 2,000,000 plays in a day. If you can successfully do that, she is not planted. She's hot, but the viral appeal is not there.

And it is being a plant because she was bought into these things. If you don't see the obvious money pit surrounding this artist, you're blind as shit. And there's nothing wrong with being plant provided the music is good, but when it's not and your come up is trying to look organic, your authenticity absolutely needs to be questioned. Most these artist need to be in fact, a lot of them are completely void of a talented supplement.

Whoever focuses and gets bothered by people identifying as white or whether or not they're true enough white or whatever really must have nothing better to do. It's just sad too see at this point.

How am I triggered i don't get how you're inferring that. Also not American lol.

>music

this is not music thread. It is thread about some instagram whore who will be instantly forgotten when the first wrinkles show up on her face or another younger bimbo show up. Mu never ever discussed even a single song of Dua. Also It is retarded to like pol they are all 56 % (basically dua lipa genetically).

She's not a plant because she was signed with Warner and never pretended to be 'indie'. The British music industry saw potential in her and Be the One became a hit. If she's a 'plant' so is virtually every grime act

Plant =/= puppet

Ethnic banter has existed in european countries for years and centuries. Then you come over whining bawww Cred Forums this Cred Forums that like the brainwashed puppy that you are same time as most americans wake up from their slumber.

First off, whether her music is good or not is up to each individual's personal subjective opinion on it. Secondly, how can you begin to imply she's devoid of a "talented supplement"? She's got a naturally gifted voice, and you're the one who's blind if you can't see that. Lastly, no amount of your "slick" angry tongue-bashing will ever change that. She's viral at the moment and there's nothing you can do about it.s
Rage on.

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This thread is about industry plants, but like everything some dickhead mentions something political and it turns to Cred Forums. Also Cred Forums has the best memes, if its retarded to like the dankest and best memes. Then I'm retarded.

>naturally gifted voice
Yeah, because that's difficult to find right? She literally is the same artist as Selena and Ariana. You know what all of them have in common? They all would look great naked. That's the only reason you know about any of them. But it's fine, she'll make a fine meat sock in the future. But let's not kid ourselves, her music is no further above the bar than the lowest common denominator of your local Smoke On The Water covering teenage rock band.

You must be off your trolley. I have no idea where your getting any of this? Like i browse bantz and pol, i just want Cred Forums to be Cred Forums you know where people actually talk about music? Like holy shit dude you actually want every board to be the same? Really??

It's popular music and designed to sell retard. No popular music is above that bar anyway

as an american i can say that we have this uber sensitive culture where everyone is on edge and ready to be offended because of how awkward it is to live in a multi racial society.

dua has ugly feet tho. if i cant get a nut on her feet then shes trash

i just want you to stop screaming Cred Forums every time someone says he doesnt like a group of people

>Durr it's popular so it can't be above the bar
Nah, it can be, just not this. I advise you take your retarded self with your generalized 13 year old opinion and leave.

You're truly delusional if you think she's in any way an actual industry plant. I'm not just saying that, how can you not see that pop(ular) music will follow the pop(ular) music formula? It doesn't mean it's better or worse than other more or less known genres with more or less exposure, it's just a genre of its own, and it happens to be the one that gets the most exposure and fans. Not every pop artist is an industry plant, and quit the borderling misoginy, pal.
>They all would look great naked
Anything against women flaunting their sex appeal?!

Man I'll do what the fuck i want faggot. If you actually go through this thread you'll see it turned into Cred Forums for a few pages. Like I've been here a lot longer than you candyass, you think I'm offended or someshit? You must be retarded.

Hey man, your pol is showing

Above what bar? What's some popular music that is 'above the bar' in your opinion?

that's literally Cred Forums lol
No he's right, as much as you like it pop music is by definition inferior to several other variants in the same medium. Ofc you can have good pop music but speaking from a musical medium point of view it will always be subpar compared to true artistic expression that belog to other musical genres.

>ugghhhh I can't prove to him that she's not an industry plant or the money trail doesn't exist... ughhh... this sucks, because she doesn't have a following before she became known. I know! I'll say Muh soggy knee!!!!

What's your tumblr? I'd love to see the faggy shit you post. Also what ad agency do you work for that is trying to viral this garbage on Cred Forums of all places?

>Then you come over whining bawww Cred Forums this Cred Forums that like the brainwashed puppy that you are same time as most americans wake up from their slumber.

What did he mean by this?

Get ready, he's gonna post some generic ultra vapid p4k approved pop music

it means you should go back to

>Pop music is by definition inferior to several other variants

Disgusting. This is the equivolent of Dream Theater being the best metal argument. Cease it at once, you're speaking to objectively about the medium and acting like you are correct when you are in fact not.

What are you on about? Have you given ANY proof whatsoever about this "money trail" you keep constantly referring to? Right, you have not. Thought so. You're the one making the bullshit claims, so the burden of proof is for you to carry.

DUDE CAPITALIST SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS LMAO

What's up with all these bitches that sound exactly like Rihanna? Like seriously first Camila and now this literal who, fucking hell

Haha yes because if you're not a trailer park racist piece of shit saying NIGGER online you must visit twitter and tumblr, I get it, user.

No seriously, what did he mean by this?

Except she sounds NOTHING like Rihanna.

Frankly both trailer rednecks and oversensitive soygoys deserve to be genocided.

But user, I did. You're the one failing to prove to me the one I posted about, which was, prove to me how it was possible for her, without any previous career entries, how she ended up with a number 1 trending entry on Youtube in just 1 day? If you can explain that one to me, I will drop the whole thing, but quite literally, that is fucking impossible without money.

Goddamn I hate Americans so fucking much.

No dream theater is absolute shit. It seems like you're mixing up artistic perception, which is indeed subjective, and art itself which has an objective system of "ratings" define by its own subgenre, context and aesthetics. Modern pop music main aim is to sell, it has no artistic aim whatsoever. Again, a few artists have managed over the years to push pop music out of it's own pool of misery but they're so fucking few that's absolutely negligible when speaking about the whole genre.

Merica rules, deal with it.

Waifu bait is the lowest form of viral marketing.

Careful with those edgy buzzwords and statements.

>soygoys

Haha le (((Juice))) am I right guys? I bet you call people mean words like "gay" at your high school.

Are you deaf by any chance? Literally the same voice, inflection and delivery.

>pretending to not be from pol

I'll spin it around for you then: HOW does money help in getting views?! Are you one of those who think those websites selling YouTube views and subscribers are actually real? LMAO.
Here's another pic for you, you hater.

>merrica whines
Fixed.

No.

Worst fucking thing to happen to this planet. Hope it gets sunk into the fucking ocean. An absolute melting pot of shit.

@78169754
Not even worth the (you)ing, reddit spacer.

Subtle capitalism glorification through self-consciousness is the lowest step on the ladder of misery and modern pop music doesn't go above that. Literally sitcom-tier nihilism.

Just thought i'd give my two cents, in europe she'd be considered white. What is it with American and "muh whiteness and if i have slightly dark hair or slightly tanned skin i'm not white" where does this mentality even come from?

Disgusting, you're now doing genre comparison, which is not only meaningless, but also objectively the lowest form of musical argument. Any product can be made to sell. A lot of products are originally even made articially and then prepared to be sold. You sound pretentious and arrogant, you must be a /classical/ poster.

Haha

I get it

This means (((le plebbit!)))

I showed him

praise kek user

>implying that's an opinion

did you get cock blocked by an Albanian or something?

>albanians
>considered white
>europeans identifying anyone as "white"

you've never been to europe or you're sheltered as fuck

It's not. It's a WRONG opinion.

Do you think your shitty popular music which is cheap plastic crap with a 5 year cycle of being sold and forgotten as a trend to end up in bargain bins or the cupboard in the same vein as Dupa Lipa is remotely comparable to classical music? Just admit you're a pig and a philistine

Its the most powerful nation. With the best cars the hottest women, 2 whole coastlines high growth. One of the greatest leaders of all time, greatest history. America is like the Roman empire but in our times. I sorry uropoors but its simple facts and you can't argue against.

White Americans are weak and insecure as shit as their country is getting more blacked by the day so they can't help but talk absolute bullshit.

White means Caucasian and nothing else.

In Europe people identify themselves by country instead of race. A concept completely alien to a culturless mutts, I know.

I am European you idiot

yeah, so you're sheltered as fuck

learn to read

It's like I'm on Cred Forums circa 2012

Are you retarded?
Here let me explain it to you.

>Artist gets ready to make debut
>Artist company that mommy and daddy bought her into have access to a huge network of influencers, models, artist, etc.
>Company uses mommy and daddy money to buy influencer post, model co-signs, etc.
>Artist does this so they can look organic, that way when views do come in, it's not questionable
>Company partners with Vevo for artist debut
>Vevo is heavily linked with Youtube, they are known for inflating views on favorable videos
>Company pays for and sets up all these things in order to make artist seem like they're not planted and merely another talent, even sometimes going as far as to falsify stories of origins
>Artist then goes viral because of money, and not organic natural growth through genuine discovery
>Artist is a plant because they put all their seeds in everyone elses pockets to manufacture their come up

Now answer the question, what ad agency do you work for?

Pale Waves
>completely generic sound
>quirky image
>suddenly everywhere despite having nothing unique to offer and no album out yet

I'm not a /classical/poster but you implying it sounds like you're simply absolutely afraid of any kind of logical and critical thinking. That inferiority complex is showing, at this point I could as well imply that you're some sort of pop music bedroom producer. Anyway, I'm not comparing genres at all, I'm taking everything in its context and I judge music for what it is: art. And among all the variation of this medium pop music is literally the equivalent of superhero movies: overproduced garbage that holds no artistic value at all and it's sole purpose it sell. Now feel free to reply as if this is a matter of opinions, meanwhile it's not.

>my great-great grandpa is dutch and my great-great grandma is polish
>100% european blood
doesn't work that way jimbo

room for 2 is a good song
maybe it's a grill thing

youtube.com/watch?v=cDAHXorVQbc

I've know several Albanians in my time and it never crossed my mind whether or not they were "true white" or whatever, they were just white to me.

Pale Waves triggers me quite a lot. Literally exploitiong a whole subculture aesthetic just to sell to the goth thot on instagram demographic.

This. Saying you're "white" is mostly an Amerimutt thing to say. There's no such thing as a "white" or "European" culture. We actually understand that cultures aren't homogeneous, especially not over a whole fucking continent. Go to a primarily Orthodox, Catholic, atheist and Protestant European country and you'll see four vastly different cultures and peoples.

I'm literally from Europe you reatard

What part of Europe are u from m8

I cant help but imagine you’re a self hating American because this just isn’t true. People identify as both, just because you’re from a specific country doesn’t mean you also can’t identify as white. Go back to pol dipshit

What did you expect from an undercover Cred Forums thread? God I wish anyone who posts on Cred Forums would get his ip blocked from posting on any other board.

>197 posts
>39 posters

She had access to a record label because she was from Sylvia Young and was a model and she built up a fanbase on Youtube doing acoustic covers. The same as Adele from the BRIT School and tons of British female fads, not dissimilar to Whitney Houston (also a model), Phyllis Hyman or other female singers

Her parents were Kosovar refugees. This isn't like Clairo whose father owns Converse, who can't sing at all and is still treated as a 'serious artist' on Cred Forums lmao

and you're clearly mongoloid

Except she had her own 100% independent stuff uploaded to YouTube BEFORE her Vevo "debut" even came into the picture while she was in Kosovo, before even moving to London. Sources: thefader.com/2015/12/09/dua-lipa-gen-f-interview
bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03br1k6
Now answer the question, are YOU retarded? Inform yourself before you make random baseless claims, and BACK YOUR SHIT UP, you fucking casual.

Americans and the alt rightards seem to think Europe is one homogeneous culture and not many different varying. Americans in general are ignorant and uneducated. Alt rightards think they're woke but just know the surface level bullshit.

Heybman those were good times. Ain't the same since deflate gate, I'm still mad aboutnthat desu.

>Kosovo

Yeah, she moved to Kosovo with her family in 2008. What about it? You're ignorant as fuck.

Only the greats are remembered from the classical era, not the fodder. The same way it's been for all forms of popular mediums. It's only popular to shit on recent forms because there is so much fodder such as Dua Lipa. You are the one that lacks culture, if you are truly someone that post in /classical/, CLT would be disgusted with your behavior.

You're contradicting yourself here, you are implying that art needs to host logical and critical thinking, which could be for some an antithesis for art. You seem to think your viewpoint is superior, without providing proper evidence as to why it should be other than more low end talking points. Your argument is no different from Coke vs Pepsi. Your viewpoint however is weak, it reeks of pretention in the most tasteless manner. You seem to have forgot along the line that we have evolved past the point of consistency with critical thinking in order to make a proper art form pleasurable. It could be argued for you that clanking rocks at a certain degree is preferable to another, but you forget that you're still looking at rocks clanking together. For all these reasons mentioned, you are a fool. Commit suicide you pseudo-intellect, Beethoven is ashamed of your pathetic attempt to criticize music with technical fortitude only to forget the most basic aspects of even listening to it.

England however my dads French

Pretty much. They also think Europeans join in as one because of a "common enemy" or some bullshit. You know what I'm talking about. It's (((le Juice))) and Muslims and globalisation, obviously. Even though Muslims kill each other daily but whatever. I find it hilarious that alt-right faggots think they're on some woke shit when they're just as brainwashed as the mainstream meteor, only in the other direction.

>People identify as both
In contrast to american mongrels, sure.

Haha I get it because it's not le real country right? Fuck mudslimes xD

What part of England are u from m8

KOSOVO JE SRBIJA

Ah I see, you're just a retarded post-modernist. You could have said that from the get-go. Feel free to go back to your precious waifu pop music now.

Nah. It's country first, then European. The only people in Europe who use "white" to describe themselves are mostly bone-headed neo-Nazis.

Both the alt-right and the neo-left ultimately support the same concept of capitalist globalization they're two sides of the same coin. Throw it in the dustbin™

>Haha I get it because it's not le real country right?
It really isn't.

Based. Post more. You are the cure that is saving nu-Cred Forums

>you're just a retarded post-modernist

Found the meme man Peterson fan.

ITT: hurr durrr white
>>>/fuckyou/

This, I'm English not white.

>CLT
Please fuck off with that retard name and lurk some more before acting like you know any shit about /classical/. Keep pretending pop music aint just a shallow attempt at hiding lack of artistic virtue and values.

It's a partially recognised state. It's going to be sooner or later. Fuck Serbia.

Ahhh and just like that, the argument you had made beautifully crumbles. I hope you've been enjoying your stay on Cred Forums, but your visa has been cancelled early, on your way back to Cred Forums, be sure to pick up a souvenir, I recommend a gun from /k/ to shoot yourself with, or a car from /o/ to drive off a cliff. Either is fine.

Found the Cred Forumstard who instantly links Peterson to Post-Modernism.

kek

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I never understood this comment. Using Reddit as an insult is just odd. Cred Forums is literally the same shit.

Literally just a buffer state to keep the Balkans from chimping out again.

Been here since 2009, my dude. Feel free to keep pushing your "muh pop music is as valuable as other subgenre in the same medium!!!" bullshit, everybody is entitled to their own opinions except pop music being absolutely one of the lowest steps in musical artistic expression is a literal fact.

This thread NEEDS more Q U E E N posting.

Oh dear, it seems you are the one that needs to lurk more. It's a shame to see someone so obsessed with sniffing their own farts they forgot the flowers. So filthy. Enjoy your false sense of elitism from your rubbish ability to properly analyze different mediums of music on a more advanced level than through the microscopic lense of /classical/ posters.

Literally just Albanians trying to get the fuck away from Serbians.

>Cred Forums is literally the same shit
rare example of an alt-normie in natural habitat

Well i mean i am half Pakistani and a 1/4 Jamaican on my Mum's side. And my English grandad is half irish. But i think my point still stands...

It's very odd that the actual ledditor is telling me to go back. Pathetic.

Rollin'

the face of a 60 year old babushka

Someone post le 56% meymey hehe xD

On a macroscopic level pop music is 99% trash, you can shout and stomp your feet on the ground as much as you want but this won't change. Does this mean you can't enjoy it? Sure it doesn't but please don't pretend it's not true. And again, your inferiority complex is once again showing, chill.

Your special boys club is not special. Nice buzzwords by the way.

Of course English is not a race, it's an ethnicity.

You keep using the word fact and artistic expression together, and I don't think you understand why that's wrong. I wouldn't expect you to expand outside much when you're hiding in the Cred Forums bubble of false elitism

lol a mutt

Lads??

Cred Forums abandoning elitism will be the final nail that will turn this place into a poptimist hugbox. Only then will it truly be no different than reddit,

>Art college babby thinks that in art there are no rules and everything is beautiful and genius in it's own context
I guess this is what happens when everyone gets a trophy.

you're not english ahmed

go back

This thread is so botched, Cred Forums is so retarded i've seen some trying to make Olive Skin a race.

Man i hate the elitism, but i hate poptamists more.

What interesting is that same Macroscopic lens can be applied to 99% of music as a whole. Even your beloved classical. As previously mentioned, you only know of the popular classical music, the true greats, not of the terrible violinist, singers, and otherwise. You seem to be the one stomping your feet, and just can't stand that a genre you disagree with could possibly be on the level your imagining. It's okay, one of these days you'll realize even Chopin wrote terrible music.

What are you on about? She's got model looks. She is a model, in fact.

As an eastern European, when I see a rare black person my first assumption is that he's either British or French. Arabs are more passable since they're similar to gypsies which here are plenty.

3 posters from Cred Forums all at once, truly disgusting. It's a shame that you've all managed to develop such startling echo chambers in your heads. Perhaps one day you'll be able to have proper discussion about the medium on an elevated level with people who disagree with your view points, both factually and opinion wise.

If Cred Forums is the chemo that will keep this board safe from poptimist plebs then I fully embrace Cred Forums.

Dude I swear to god you're either retarded or incapable of understanding what you're reading. On a macroscopic scale your beloved pop music is literal shit, that's the fucking point. And why the fuck do you keep bringing up classical, I don't fucking care about classical, let alone orchestral music at all. Take the musical medium as it is and your best of best in pop will ALWAYS be literal trash with no artistic value compared to the rest. Fuck off with your poptimism.

If you haven't rated dua lipa album 5/5 on rym and 100 on metacritic you are racist and misogynist. She is the most talented musician since Philip Glass or Lady Gaga (PBUH).

#MewTwo

can the poltards just fucking leave

Haha oh man, it just keeps getting more pathetic. It just has to be shit, don't it? You're not even making an argument anymore, you're just saying shit at this point. yikes.

pop is the slop fed to the masses

get over it retard

can poptimist post-modernists leave

How's Cred Forums? You're literally implying that art has no rules and therefore anything counts as art which is the most retarded argument anyone could ever make. Art has rules just like any artistic current or subgenre has it's own context and aesthetics. Stop trying to dodge any argument by shouting CLASSICAL ELITISM POL
And btw, you still haven't answered to

Can just redditors leave so we could just discuss obscure music like in good old day instead of top 40 hiphop and pop?

Same shit is with tv, since redditors took over there weren't a single thread about movies made before 2010...

Have you made ANY argument so far aside from I DON'T THINK SOOOOO and MUH ELITISM!!!!

It's funny actually, because I also hate the climate of pop music today, but more so I hate the absolute disgusting elitism you Cred Forums posters think you have because you believe you have some truly hidden knowledge that the public isn't aware of. Obsessed with flagrant shit eating, saving the un-endangered white race, unable to think for yourselves, only thinking for everyone else.

This

Cred Forums and Cred Forums were pretty nice places around 2010-2012 then a massive wave of redditors hit em and shit started going down hill. Cred Forums constantly b8ing is just the final nail in the coffin

Lad your being super divisive. Why you gotta hate people that think different than you. Thats bigotry yo.
>yikes
Bk 2 reddit and tumblr

can the fucking children who only care about top 40 pop and meme rap just fucking leave

>disliking a vapid shallow talentless hack means you're Cred Forums
impressive mental gymnastics, lemme just go rate all her releases 0.5 on RYM to trigger you a bit more, brainlet.

born in le right generation xD

I only listen to REAL music. Kanye West, FKA Twigs, Kendrick Lamar, Beyonce, Earl Sweatshirt, Flying Lotus, The Weeknd, DOOM, Drake, Beyonce, Deangelo, the list goes on
*white person sees a cracker* white person "same" tb h. literally same. literally me every day of my life bae. um, good job white people.
I follow pop culture.
I watch the grammys. I watch the VMAs. I love live tweeting about both
I listen to both mainstream music AND indie! I'm a new breed of cultured
I love tweeting about the NBA. Did you all see the NBA All Star game? Check out this meme of a NBA star! he be like
Beyonce be like
Jay-Z be like
Nicki Minaj be like
KENDRICKS NEW SINGLE JUST DROPPED FUCK.
Yeezy season approaching
Check out this meme I made, it references Drake and a new movie that just came out
Bae. Keep calm and smoke a blunt. Emojis. I embrace memes and trends. But post-ironically.
Ironic 90s nostalgia t-shirts bae
um white people fucked up again. like, good job everyone. great job society. baka desu
WOW. I want my girlfriend to hear Deangelos voice while we have sex.
People of Colour >>>> White People. boohoo white people, youre life is sooo tough. redirect to Cred Forums
pitchfork.com, stereogum, tumblr, instagram, jezebel, nba.com, grantland, I'm in the know
I ALSO LISTEN TO SWANS THO. IM CULTURED THO.
I EMBRACE THIS GENERATION!!!
#readyforhillary #orblackcanidate #stopwhitepeople #tbhcrew

clairo the ultimate shill.

>you believe you have some truly hidden knowledge that the public isn't aware of
>unironically thinking that dua lipa's target audience has some sort of actual taste in music
ahahahaha holy shiiiiiit

You poltards make the sjws appealing. atleast they don't bitch about whether or not a Jewish person can be white or whether or not someone with tanned or olived skin can be considered white.

>unable to think for yourselves, only thinking for everyone else.
Hello mr. Peterson, dry your tears and put on some bomb ass Dua Lipa.

I have to make arguments for natural logical thoughts that should occur in your brain? I was unaware, I just assumed people knew not to talk from their asses like they're unequivocally more enlightened in the field of art.

What is to be considered art has no rules, you are correct, however what is to be considered in the process of making said art, there are rules. Composition of a piece =/= a piece being considered art. If a man walks 10,000 miles to fart into a megaphone, is it considered the greatest fart in a megaphone because he walked 10,000 miles? Or is it just another fart? Some could argue the 10,000 miles was necessary, others could say it was pointless and just another a fart.

It's interesting that I'm also being claimed to dodge arguments, when it multiple post now I have dispelled your objective group think logic. As for providing you with examples, this is an argument over a subjective medium. Not only that, I would have reason to believe because of your aggressive tendencies through your post that you are incapable of being unbias towards any examples I would post, only seeking to further the argument and post more bait.

man I hate this kind of shitposting and generalization but this is literally what killed this board

>It's funny actually, because I also hate the climate of pop music today
Do you lack reading comprehension or...? I know it's typical of a Cred Forums poster, but even during a passionate argument you are unable to steer away from such bait filled post.

>As for providing you with examples, this is an argument over a subjective medium
DUDE

RELATIVISM

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Man it's really that bad look at this fag

sympathetic towards something does not mean they are that thing
all this means is that 15 million americans have been redpilled to some extent

t. I'm an individualist

You say nothing with son many words. You a politican

Yes Cred Forums poster. Unlike facts and statistics that you can measure, like how many teenagers are on Cred Forums to determine that the board is full of underage kids, you can't measure subjective taste in any regard. This might be a foreign concept to you, but it is true.

Steering away from my arguments I presented you? Filth.

>He still hasn't replied to
Can you tipping your fucking pop-tinted fedora for a second and finally answer to that question?

Ahh the classic, "I don't understand what you just posted because my small brain doesn't understand anything more than jews are evil" argument. While I do enjoy it, this is not the place user.

Dude nobody fucking cares about your subjective taste, do you think Michelangelo and Leonardo are considered the greatest artists ever from a purely subjective point of view? Holy shit how fucking dense are you.

It is really sad when you tried to build something nice without nazism, gore or cp and second after redditors overflood your stuff with an appendage of viral marketers, focus groups, politic agitators, etc.

>As for providing you with examples, this is an argument over a subjective medium. Not only that, I would have reason to believe because of your aggressive tendencies through your post that you are incapable of being unbias towards any examples I would post, only seeking to further the argument and post more bait.

This is 3rd time I've had to scold you on reading comprehension, I am going to ask you to attend a reading and comprehension class when you are finished browsing the internet today. It's obviously necessary in your case.

You can't measure taste subjectively yet Dua Lipa or some teenagers playing Led Zep is 'below the bar' and 'fodder'? How the fuck does that work?

>le subjective anti-elitist scolding people for being too elitist is an incredibly arrogant elitist himself

really makes you think

go listen to some more top 40 sewage runoff you chimp

You keep throwing the term "greatest ever", but consistently use old vessels to derive that meaning and standard. Are you incapable of determining for yourself what you consider greatest ever? As much as people are declaring me the redditor, it seems you share much more tendencies with the group think posters of that website than most examples on Cred Forums. What boards do you browse?

BUZZFEEDS 6 QUESTIONS EUROPEANS HAVE FOR AMERICANS

>"UHHH why do you think Europe is all one country"
>"Like why do you think we are all from the same culture"
>"Like why do you think you can't be white and have dark hair and dark eyes"
>"Why do you think all Italians look like they're from Sicily?"
>"Why're you so obsessed with what European countries are white?"
>"UHHH you realise you can be Jewish and white right?"

>N/A

>Finally confirming he's just evading
Ahahahah holy shit how fucking pathetic, being so entitled to your own shit opinions yet your insecurity complex and paranoid tendencies stop you from posting what you consider actually "good" pop music. Pick a Trip so I can filter you forever, shithead.

>LOOK AT ME I'M AN INDIVIDUAL!!!! WHICH ALSO MEANS I MUST BE CONTRARIAN ALL THE TIMES XDDD

You seem to just believe everything is subject. Am i right? I mean come the fuck on.

BY FAR the most cancerous thread I've had the deep displeasure of reading in years.

Hope you all suffer painful and slow deaths.

This

This is a case of using words in a completely inappropriate manner and having absolutely no idea how to state the question they're trying to ask. The fact that you we're able to trail back so far to try to even begin to ask this question, without even proper context into what information you are providing, I have no clue what you are saying. You accompanied it with a picture of pickle rick, which leads me to believe you are also mentally deficient. Seek education.

>He provided reason and rationality as to why he won't post things I will deliberately hate in order to steer the conversation further in my direction by using my subjective taste, he must be pathetic

No, user. It is you who is pathetic. The one who is incapable of truly seeking wise information for themselves, and consistently projecting their absolutely intolerable world view upon this board.

racist

Not me tho I'm cool.

I only browse Cred Forums, Cred Forums has no artistic interest and any other board is filled with Cred Forumstards or retards like you. Also what makes you think I don't simply agree with the general consensus over Leonardo and Michelangelo? Being an individualist doesn't mean being a massive contrarian towards everything.

Not the user youre arguing with, but that was an embarrassing retort. Stop posting please.

The classic all caps XD post. I assume this is you admitting defeat, as you've devolved to the lowest form of shit posting. It's time for breakfast, you have a big day ahead of you.

>ITT: Cred Forumstards and a redditor who thinks pop music holds any artistic value worth mentioning

>industry plants

Oh look, another one of the zillion angles you try throwing out that don't stick.

It's really fun watching your desperation and mental illness set in.

Man can i just say, completely unrelated to the argument. Wether you are right or wrong. You must be one of the most insufferable cunts out there, I pity anyone who has to be around you. I mean i bet you don't even enjoy being you.

by far the best thread on mu this year.

All shallow shit acts should be left without moderation on Cred Forums so all discussions would end into Cred Forums+/r9k/+Cred Forums bravado. Maybe that would drive normies and their pop music away.

every hip hop thread should end into black crime stat sheets
every pop idol thread should end into women hate and slut shame
every politically aware indie act should end in pictures of goatse

>breakfast
>it's 7pm
in what kind of backwards shithole do you live?

...

I don't think i can argue against your point.

Reminder that if women disappeared from this planet pop music would cease to exist since it would lose its own raison d'etre: selling.

>not realizing that people live in the best country in the world

>wanna nut on her feet so bad

fuck this cant be true
oh well, that explains why im smarter than most people i know here
cuz im pretty fucking stupid

THIS

Being an individualist has nothing to do with this argument though. Is the concept of subjectivity, the questionable authenticity of true objectivity in art, and the forces which can be unified only on composition and not through deliverance that difficult to accept? It's excellent that you believe Leonardo and Michelangelo are stunning musicians, as they certainly are. They should not be held as the general reflection for all standards of patrician clearance in many forms of music. Do you really want everyone to be a Michelangelo? Is it really impossible to hail someone subjectively to you as better than Michelangelo? It's interesting how we can go from such rapid variance in so many forms of music, from context to application, and just derive one solid form of objectivity, when everything that surrounds just art existing, is beyond what is in your objective reach.

>Breakfast
Aussie?

what makes you say that?

I'm actually very popular and have a lot of friends in many circles.

I know, brother. We can do it side by side.

I don't think that changes my point one bit.

>Is it really impossible to hail someone subjectively to you as better than Michelangelo?
No it's not as long as it doesn't get stated as a fact an not as an opinion.
>It's interesting how we can go from such rapid variance in so many forms of music, from context to application, and just derive one solid form of objectivity, when everything that surrounds just art existing, is beyond what is in your objective reach.
You're overcomplicating pop music, really.

>I'm actually very popular and have a lot of friends in many circles.

Now I'm confused. Your first statement sounds exactly like all of mine. It really seems like you truly agree with me, you just don't want to agree with pop music. Which is fine, as long as you are willing to compromise with subjectivity on pop music, which even I genuinely agree with your disagreeing towards it.

for comparison

This

and people blame poltards that Cred Forums went to shit...

lets get to it then

these are current top threads on 4 and 8 chans Cred Forums boards.

Dua Lipa more like Dick sUckin LIPSA

mutat e mutit
your avarage industry plant
you forgot to wish happy birthday yesterday
10 years

just post more pics :(

im gonna suck on those toes like some fine teets

She looks like an Italian shit and therefore probably a gypsy not a real Albanian.

nope
the closest to good ive heard was dren abazi, wasnt bad

I just read up on clairo and it's wild lmao
she's an actual 'industry plant' – not dua

Looks like the amerilard SJW mod has finally waken up and deleted all the TRIGGER WARNING posts while keeping all the other bait ITT safe and sound hehehehehe.

I listened to them because I thought “oh this looks like cool gothy post punk or something” but it’s just The 1975 but even worse

Her father is also a singer so she had the doors open in music industry

Also her mother is hot

gypsies/10

wuz poppin shqiptar?