/gg/ Guitar and Bass General

Dual Single Coil Strat Without a Pickup Selector Switch Edition

How do I start learning guitar?
>justinguitar.com
Suggested Practice Routine:
>i.imgur.com/yfgsTaq.png
Guitar chords and inversions
>chordbook.com/guitar-chords/
String tension calculator (D'Addario-based):
>stringtensionpro.com/
Music theory:
>musictheory.net/lessons
Hal Leonard's Bass Method:
>mediafire.com/file/sayviwqxfcxfjon/
Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
>mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
>mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
>mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar
Advancing Guitarist - Mick Goodrick
>mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8
Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
>mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg
Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
>mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22
Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
>mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb
Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
>mediafire.com/download/07o65qdh5in1nsq
>mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd
The Beginner's Guide to Jazz Guitar:
>jazzguitar.be/ebooks/The_Beginners_Guide_To_Jazz_Guitar.pdf
Blues Guitar Lessons:
>learnandmaster.com/resources/Spotlight_Blues_Guitar_LessonBook.pdf

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first for compressors

THEY ARE TOO BIG TO FAIL

ONLY A GIBSON™ IS GOOD ENOUGH

You're the one that doesn't under what the word "sustain" actually means while defending his magical meme pedal.

dubs confirm. compressors increase sustain

>THEY ARE TOO BIG TO FAIL
another kike its going to own gibson mark my words.

>destroying your tone

Dont forget to add an equalizer pedal and a noise gate, too.

nah son. youre strawmanning now, sustain doesnt equal vibration, so quit pushing it. we're not talking about how long the string vibrates, we're talking about the amount of signal the pickups are able to receive and send through to the amp.

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Yep, just like how Sam is the best guitarist itt because he played an Ace Frehley solo.

>destroying your tone
then pick hard or are you wristlet?

Oh, so the compressor increases the magnetic pull of the pickup. Check this idiot out.

Noise gates do not alter tone. Noise gates deactivate when the signal passes a threshold, so basically they deactivate when you hit a note and only gate noise when no note is ringing. Equalizers improve tone if used correctly.

>playing without a noise suppressor
>not using an equalizer
this thread is full of squier shilling tonewood amateurs

>cherrypicking and twisting words
youre totally out of things to say arent you? its about the signal

Compressors do not increase physical string sustain but they increase audible sustain. They can create infinite sustain in conjunction with vibrato. You can have infinite sustain with vibrato without a compressor as well, but, in the absence of feedback, the sustained signal will generally be quieter than the note right after you picked it. However, with a compressor the sustained vibrato will be just as loud as the initial note.

>/gg/ still doesnt know what compressors, noise gates, and suppressors do

its just jcum and sam avoiding their bans, all they do is shitpost, ignore them

Post good Gibsons as a salute.

How much is that shit?

This LP needs to be pickguard-free to expose the entire f-hole.

There's no 1 or 1,5W amp on his channel, weakest one is 2W

>using this many words to prove you're an idiot
Jcmfag manages to do that more effectively with many less words

You mean using your nonsensical argument against you? I have one thing to say, compressors do not increase sustain, it os physically impossible for something in your signal chain to cause your strings to vibrate longer.

way too much even price dropped

You can remove it. It looks glorious, sadly they copied it from The Heritage.

what exactly do you want? a 1 or 5 watt amp? i thought you wanted something small. sorry for trying to help, ill let sam and jcum fill the thread with shitposts now

Ad hominem is not an argument.

They only know how to stack reverbs

>i dont understand what's being talked about so ill just use insults to try to prove im not an idiot
we see through the facade you cunt. compressors work whether you like it or not. youd know that if you ever played one

you are talkin to the punheteiro aka sam tho

1. I didnt write 5, i wrote 1,5.
you said that channel had 1,5W amps. (you wrote 1 1/2)
This is the only amp below 3W on that channel youtube.com/watch?v=AOO7WOaObmo

Just like everything you've said up to this point. Also, I called you an retard(justly) after pointing out the flaw in your argument. Now who's cherry picking?

this guy dumbs it down enough for you thirdworlders. explain the audible difference in sustain when he hits the pedal if its a placebo
youtube.com/watch?v=iAu-Mm7Croo

>good Gibsons
The only good Gibson is actually an Agile

last time i try to help some ungrateful faggot here. i said he had free schematics, i didnt remember the wattage of his amps. if this is sam literally kys

I like your Agile, user. The binding is really nice.

I like him, but he looks like an overboiled sausage with a face painted on before boiling it.

Not only the binding, but the ramen smell is really good too. You can buy it for the same price too.

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An audible difference in sustain is not the same as more sustain.

kek true. bet you love pete thorn then.
youtube.com/watch?v=wJ8UMHODKuU

Nice
Why are you so stupid? Why? How?

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Ad hominem, strawmanning, etc.

Technically, the string is always vibrating.

I don't mind him. He looks like a nice guy, but he has been overblown as a player.

Can I metal on a stock telecaster? Asking because I haven't got the amp to test.

if you have a good noise suppressor

I don't see why not, teles sound like shit and metal guitar tones are always shit.

i dont watch his videos to hear him noodle, he has good info. besides, hes better than this guy

Give me a dope chord progression to work off of /gg/

technically yes due to slow metal like led zeppelin or raw hendrix with his fuzzes

better off using virtual guitarist vst for this :^)

This, but it'll kill your sustain so you better get a compressor as well.

>i dont know how to use suppressors right
they dont suck tone or kill sustain if you know what the hell youre doing

>reverse tele stock
vomit

id kill myself if i was crosseyed like that props to him for not

You said 1.5W here
3w is still too loud to crank at home.

hes a meme and so are his guitars. who else who give fellow memers like rob scallon a sig model

>knowing what your doing allows you to change the laws of the universe

youtu.be/gSNFDDvSnoQ

i know theres a surgery to fix it but its supposed to be extremely painful. anyway, hes a cool guy

quit being a cunt, i found the video for you and youre still complaining, not to mention i said i couldnt remember

jcum, we know compressors and suppressors are beyond youre comprehension. stick to posting your shitty stack and gay fat strat

your fault for talking to punheteiros.

3W doesnt work dude. You're getting mad for no reason.

I'm not the beaner, Sam. Are you ban evading again?

>living in a favela made of corrugated tin roofing and sharing a wall with a family of 30
lmaoing at your life senpatchi

put your trips back on and quit avoiding your bans

How's that any different than LA?

actually im not jcm just another anti-sam we will make him quit /gg/.

i wouldnt know, ive never been to commiefornia

but muh tone succ

You're put in charge Gibson, how do you save them?

Jokes on you I'll never quit

only people who don't understand how to use it get that, same type of people who think compressors are "magical memes"

He has no self esteem nor brain. There is no point on trolling, humiliating or discussing with him, besides the fun, obviously.

immediately pull this from production

yeah i know. You are the Yuifag, ikr you are helpin´punheteiro.

For me, it's
>stop 'innovating'
>reduce line to standards, customs and juniors
Sorted. Pay me.

I have both

Improve "workforce"

fire the guy who thought this was a good idea

>sam and jcum team up to fight the logic and compressors
these threads just get better and better

>fire
A bullet into his head hopefully, what the fuck are they doing?

no idea. i mean it could MAYBE be cool if they used different color schemes but fuckin a those things are just abominations, just like

no need the current owners should lost gibbi so another kike buy it.
wonder whats going to be of these current owners work at mcdonals or burguer king?

>logic
This isn't /prod/

Wait for cabinfag. That's like the three stooges on crack.

That's post is more atrocious than

Yeah, I'd start an ad campaign showing blue collar looking old white dudes making their guitars. I don't know what they were thinking with the nigger ladies and overall direction of the company.

Works for fender

its a joke, i know kikes losing a few mill dollars is no biggie.

Jcum is talking to fellow posters. I havent said a word on this compressors discussion. I know enough about how compressors work.

At least he knows he's shit and doesn't spam his shitty gear or vocaroos through the entire thread

I don't know what you said, but I know it's wrong.

I've tried to defend you before and even tried helping you find shit for a diy amp but constant complaining across 2 threads crossed the line man. You get ragged on constantly here and now I see why

Exactly, he's like Shemp.

what did you do for me? posted complicated 10w amps when i asked for something i can build with no experience and that is weak enough that i can crank at home?

thoughts on prs se 277 baritones?
They aren't too expensive, would probably be fun and unique experience, wouldnt wanna buy another HH guitar that will fill too similar.
are baritones a meme guys?

Wait, I got lost here. Who said this?

Opinions on Guild guitars? Thinking of getting one, but have no music stores nearby that have them.

Frog related

Made in China, but very good. I would go for a Yamaha instead.

care to explain? reviews and videos online praise it and it sounds nice, I won't get to try it in a store any time soon, whats wrong with them?

nice repeating patterns


is true there was a prsfag who never shut the fuck bout it?

Yamahas are made in China too, though. I thought Guild might be better since it is solid wood top, back, and sides, and it's got bone nut and saddle, which is pretty neat.

>is it true that roman constantly shitposts in /gg/
yes

>i want something to crank
>but it can't be loud
This is exactly the shit I'm talking about

Does /gg/ like IV iv

Go for any guitar you can afford with all solid woods. I thought that the Yamahas were made in Japan, at least the ones around that price, like the LL16 Are, bu you are right, they are made in China.

Jcum

Is there anything more autistic than calling out Anonymous shitposters as known namefags? It ensures that even without a name/trip that they get the attention they crave. Cred Forums does the same shit its pure autism

>you can't want stuff
THEN GO FUCK YOURSELF
i can't get the EL34 on my alien to saturate at home thats why i want a 1W amp

Cool man, thank you. I didn't know if solid woods were a meme or not.

Posted yesterday but here’s my babies

no one?

what is the surname of roman i'm gonna search him on facebook

You can't call me autistic that's a hate crime

and now you know?

>Sustain is not sustain
What did he mean by this?

Dear Lord, he is more stupid than I thought.
Just in case, are you in Europe?
Nice to see you kept the acoustic in there. The Strat still looking fine af.

Has already been doxxed

>tfw rember musiciansfriend catalogs with mim strats for $369
Am I really that old? Has the us dollar inflated so much?

I am too so it's ok
ramen sounds like a guitar shitter so let him die and /gg/ will be one step closer to being great again

>iv
im more mark I myself

>solidbody guitars are a meme
Jesus this place is a true cancer

I remember Bajas being released and being £380/90, they're £770 now. WEW.

Thanks man ;)
It’s an American pro. Has the “narrow tall” frets.
They feel amazing, and it’s totally different from the normal jumbos

Nice artcore
They increased all their prices, which is why some pajeets here think squiers are on par with MIM

what happened to my tube preamp? why now it souns so thin and quiet?
vocaroo.com/i/s08qcXag3Bb2

MIJ > MIA > Squier CV > MIM

You're literally too stupid to build an amp.

wtf
>They increased all their prices
why?

thats why im asking

>0.3 rupees have been deposited into your account

i am not and i have no doubt about it.

Supply and demand. They know people will pay for it

>why?
Same reason why they raised the price on squiers by a hundred dollars a couple of years ago.

Gabriel

mainly because they know they can get away with it and the goyim will stil pay

fml

i have a Guild, the headstock broke off. It has all the structural problems of a les paul gibson headstock, but it's twice as big and weighs like 10 pounds by itself. It sounds pretty good though

What is the second chord here youtube.com/watch?v=Sb4kCFweIqo

J

Why don't you sleep around with more men so you can buy one?

Has memeing you dumbass. Prs are great guitars.

The color looks amazing. Fender is really doing a good job.
Grabigel, not Gabriel.

I really want to build a 1w tube amp myself

yeah I got that, I'm just hoping that anyone here has legit opinions on baritones, specifically the prs se 277

keep blowing oldman then.

they are though. the only way to make them sound good is to take the pickups off

No

is he from Pennisvalnia

I am not in Europe

Nobody is talking about solidbody guitars

Like dracula

E major, work on your ear training lad

I didn't know two coconuts with a string were 1w.

who are the good guys in the guitar biz then?

>I am not in Europe
Then go for the solid wood guitar you can afford. Try to check different shapes, I like OO and OM, but that's up to you.

guys tell me what to do :(

The Japs.

Used gear sellers

Japanese used gear sellers. Whoa, damn.

idk kys?

Cool, thanks. I probably want a dreadnought or larger though. I once had a jumbo and it fit me perfectly

Your tube died.

swapped it with other one. nothing changed

Then you need to take it to a technician, unless you have a voltmeter at home.

If you have ever played a guitar other than this, you are a low-test soyboy

Tone is in your fingers, I've been playing with two dead tubes and 11 year old strings, I sound fantastic.

prove or gtfo

Does she come with the guitar?

god damn that thing is flamboyant, can you imagine playing that live and not feeling embarassed

Good cheap acoustic 6 string for me to learn how to play? I’m thinking around $200 max

Yamaha FG800

play electric or bust.

thanks lad
how do i do that

Guitar is dead, buy a gold chain and start a rap career.

why youd be embarassed of flamboyant stuff

hey gg i need your help. i have almost no money and want to start playing guitar. where do i start? there is a pawn shop with solid guitars and hollow guitars in my town. which guitars are better to start with? also what kind of sheet music is best to start learning guitar with?

>buy a gold chain and start a rap career
i love this site

>Says the gay prostitute
Of course.

i like metal/punk, the more expensive my instrument looks the more i dislike it

learn crazy frog as your first song

its just a jelly /prod/ie they are homeless atm.

they need a roman to keep their general alive tho.

This is what butthurt dadrockers actually believe, hip hop is the number 1 genre of all times that changed music forever.

>also what kind of sheet music
kek we dont use sheet, we use tabs. dont you know all guitarists are just brainlet musicians

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Can someone explain this general to me? Hardly any guitar related discussions and a bunch of assholes arguing over some tripfaggotry. What gives? Why is it like this?

Posted this in the last thread. Looking to add a Firebird V to my collection. Which production years would I get the best quality for price? Excluding vintage 60's originals, of course.

Welcome to Cred Forums.

>Gibshit
Get whatever the Nips are making.

Lets say I want to learn either guitar/bass to make Vapourwave, what style of music has the good learning resources and is a similar style technically.

Just learn to use a daw.

Get out

vaporwave is just japanese pop or just rock.

How would you make vaporwave with a guitar? Do you mean shoegaze?

its shit like tangerine dream but made in japan then later 10 years later the vaporwavers just multy layer it.

>tfw reading this thread

write a generic jpop song then slow it down

wala its vaporwave

Did you listen to the vocaroo clips?

i know right

oh i see /prod/ now have a thread
will monitor you guys hope it have some autistic shit to laught at.

Anyone remember that retard that said that having a pickup too close to your bridge will mess with your intonation.

Yes if it gets too close -to the strings not to the bridge, you understood it wrong- the magnets start to pull them out of tune

its worse most of the shit they can just read the manual

only rare earth do this though

>jesus it never ends
>it just works its way inside
>if the pain goes on....
>....I'M NOT GONNA MAKE IT

I do, good times. Remember the retard who said he was doing some academic readings on Liszt, but it was Jcum? Remember when he was a slavic looking french descendant american? Remember the pre-Madonna? These threads have gave me so much.

I would consider it but I’m in a college dorm setup for the next 9 months or so, going to be moving around a lot too

No, hes was saying intonation. That's why I refered to him as a retard.

what?

It's the same thing

What, don't you have a phone or a computer? Amps are outdated trash that only brainlets buy these days because "muh olden days".

Hell, you can do a lot of your practice unplugged, and you won't be pissing off the neighbours as much.

"Pre-madonna" had me in tears. Do you like guitar?

Just a soyboy, ignore him.

>madonna
i lost that one

But pickup poles being too close to the strings does fuck with the intonation. Takes literally 5 minutes to see for yourself.

I love guitars. Here you have one.
The store who takes these pictures is amazing, but they only sale left handed guitars.

the shit guitarists believe. smdh

"No"

How quieter a 3W tube amp is than a 10W one?

Drummers aren't musicians.

that's a fact.

modest is hottest niggan

if your argument is only held up by the ad hom argument you are an actual retard

comfy af youtube.com/watch?v=bxtCqs2WFZE

Idk bro this would be my first guitar, I’m in airforce dorms so the space constraints are a bit more strict than college

robrobinette.com/Bassman_Micro.htm

In case anyone cares, I just ordered this Guild. I'm pretty pumped.

Congrats, enjoy it.

Holland 1945 cover when?

Thanks :)

>2 to 4 watts
can one crank that at an apartment?

As soon as I get the guitar. Wednesday

Just make sure your guitar can stay in tune and is properly intonated. Buy a guitar that feels comfortable to play, and try different guitars before buying one.

Fuck. I want an Elite Telecaster since it has a compound radius neck but it has a god damn belly contour which I don't want. Does a Telecaster with a compound radius exist else where? Or should I just stick to my Jackson?

>which guitars are better to start with
Assuming you’re speaking of hollow vs solid body, keep in mind that solid-bodies tend to be cheaper and thinner. But as I said, just find a guitar that you feel comfortable with.
Don’t worry too much about muh sustain and muh tonewoods for now.
What type of music are you interested in playing?

Warmoth

no

that's my need

And you'll pay more than an MIA tele

You're not going to be able to crank anything in an apartment. Even a Katana on .5 watt setting would be too loud.

Not necessarily

What you need to do it get off here and get your life together sam

Maybe not more than an elite but definitely more than a MIM

why you dont do that

Crap. .5watt? How loud, though?
But 70% volume already gets some saturation; is that doable?

MIM yeah, but you didn't say that.

Real loud. Get a solid state. You don't have to crank those to sound good.

I dont have to crank my alien to sound good. But powertube saturation sounds different and is cool

>the nitpicking faggot returns
You can easily get a warmth build that costs more than any MIA

The bodies alone run like 5-$600

You can, yes.

Depends on the options

I don't usually post on this board but I figured it was the best place to ask this question.

I'm looking to get a decent mid-range guitar around the 600 dollar range. Upgrading from my current guitars, an epiphone les paul junior and a squier bullet strat. I want to get as good a sound as I can possible get out of a 600 dollar guitar. Something more in line with a gibson les paul that can handle high gain. Also something that is good for lead. What would you recommend that gives me the best sound quality within my price range range?

Let's see, if you were to get an elite Tele build from warmoth, how much would it cost?

There are bodies up for sell roght now below $300.

Used HH American Strat

Yeah for that price they'll be unifinished
Look into ESP and Ibanez

Give me a minute and we'll see

There's a completely finished jazzmaster for $290. Try again.

buy a blakhart its in your price range
ebay.to/2HoqiHf

Kek now find a neck that cheap on their site

>tfw still no Super Distortion original from the 70s

>7 string
Name 1 (one) good guitarist that uses a 7 (seven) string

Agile Al-3100mcc or al-3200mcc
Literally no better guitar/specs for the price

The first listed is $157.

793.44 for the body (custom built, black)
220.00 for the neck (in stock)

i know you are mad coz the chugachuga players put this beautiful intrument in the memelist
but placing a high c on the bottom string is pretty legit if you want to transpose some ear piercing solos.

That's also all the hardware except the tuners, nut and string trees...so tack on another 150 or so.

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That aint too bad at all.

If you shop for in stock bodies, it's even cheaper.

Oh, I know. I'm

Billy Gibbons is known for that

used Gibson les paul studio

thats what the other guitarist my band does, plays a 7 with one above the high E with that one a .10 and the high E a .11

decent pickups will be at least $200. add another couple hundred for the rest of the hardware

Billy gibbons uses a 7 gauge string, not a 7 string guitar.

Pickups were included (SD Five-Two set), and did you even read? All hardware except tuners, string trees and nut included in that price.

thats right

Could anyone tell me what the low chord running through almost this entire song is? I am pretty new to guitar. I thought it was maybe the top few strings of a muted g but then tried singing to it and it sounds shite.

youtu.be/3-Q2ThMeVMg

>$50 tuners
>$300 string trees
>$1000 ivory nut
checkmate

I think i found my little amp scheme
youtube.com/watch?v=GnCRv-u-dQ4

If you're an idiot

I picked up a Jackson Pro Series Soloist for like $500 not long ago. Shit retails for $1300 and it's a really great guitar for high gain. They aren't really the most fancy but they play real well and have good pickups/trem.

cute

Ace is still rocking. I can't wait for his 2018 album.
youtube.com/watch?v=B_dpyw23wHE

Nobody? I realised I can’t completely replicate it as I only have a twelve string to hand (probably should have realised sooner), still interested though.

Damn John Petrucci's daughter is talented, if you know what I mean

youtube.com/watch?v=KoI9BWbesVg

Holy shite that looks fragile.

Amazing, you can even tell she’s talented with no audio.

meh
damn he is just awful, his singing and his playing are straight trash man

thats what i said
I'm thinking of building mine on some old radio wood case

How do you know that's his daughter?

rondo music

it's in the title idiot

Shape is retarded but I think the neck and headstock look cool as fuck.

The piano is playing the vocal notes. What a hack

First stop the bleeding: make sure every guitar that goes out the door is solid in every way.
Second, invest in Kramer. Metal is still solid and Floyd-equipped guitars are coming back. Get them worthy of their nameplate (fully shielded, real Floyd, high quality pickups, great construction) and then get them into the hands of great player and on the racks of stores.
Invest in Baldwin pianos. They have been a nonexistent presence since acquisition. Make a push to get them back into schools, colleges and churches.
Ditto for Slingerland, Tobias and Steinberger. Do what made them great in the first place, develop their endorser programs, innovate and get them into stores.
Epiphone is solid. I wouldn’t change much there.
As for the flagship brand:
Expand the line of SGs, Gibson’s top-selling electric guitars since their introduction. Rename the current SG Special the Studio, and reintroduce an SG Special equipped with P90s.
Use modern coatings to make finishing (by far the most expensive step in the whole process) faster, cheaper and more uniform. Keep the nitro for the super top end, but add poly and other things for downmarket options. Also, integrate more CNC construction into the process-there is no reason standard production model guitars have to cost $4000, even for Les Pauls. Do what you can to economize while keeping quality up and pass the savings along to the consumer.

Finally, as CEO my main job is to be salesman #1 for Gibson. I’d work the retailers, try to get and keep all of those sub-brands in their stores, do my best to stay responsive to retailer and consumer concerns, and keep the pressure on my operations people to get their outbound quality up.

Two people can't share the same name?

the electric virgin grandpa
the chad acoustic

lol tl;dr

Virgin acoustic
>kills every good party

Chad electric
>infinite tones

Just get a Fender 5F1 Champ kit, put a super-inefficient speaker in it, and wire it up.
Speaker efficiency matters most of all for final volume. Average speaker loudness is 90db@1W1M, so look for something that’s around 80. That way the 5F1 Champ’s 3w gets you 85db, which is about as loud as a blender.
Come on man. You’ve got to think about this kind of stuff if you’re going to build an amp for close quarters electric guitar.

>yamawho
>blender
>ibenhad
Perhaps if Gibson didn’t have dim-witted teenagers create their advertisements it might help.

it's still significantly louder than 0.5W

Does anyone here have a Gibby scale HH guitar? I need the measurements between the pup rings.

yes i have a les paul

SG and les paul have different pickup placements

I need a 335 preferably, but I think a LP will do.

just wait for someone with a 335 to appear then

It's his wife's youtube account

personal best

what you doin

NEW THREAD

checking all these digits like a boss

why did you get a (you) for my post

what the fuck is going on here

You didn't know you were you all along? Right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing?

>Schizophrenia

;^)

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