Boxers use the excuse that Toney was old when he fought in MMA

mma fighters have no chance in boxing either

2 completely different sports

That was a fluke. Tim Sylvia stood right in front of him (suicide against a boxer). I have proof:
Ray Mercer lost to a guy who was an internet street fighter
youtube.com/watch?v=DahOLe5z3Ek

MMA fans reference the Couture Toney fight like it means anything. Toney was an old fat fuck looking for a pay check

Was originally scheduled as a boxing match. They agreed to keep the fight standing and only punch, Sylvia kicked him to start the fight which is why Mercer got pissed

The biggest actual boxing upset over MMA is Danny Lafever vs Benji Raddach. Lafever was a nobody boxer who beat Raddach who was actually a pretty decent fighter and one of the best ones at his weight at the time outside the UFC

why do people lose all sense of logic when having this discussion. I have never not even once heard boxers are saying they can go into mma without learning the techniques and do well. Tons of boxers have made the switch to mma and learned bjj/wresting

Boxing isnt a sport its glorified ballet

But the point of MMA initially was to test styles. MMA itself is no style. Top fighters train 3 arts to fight MMA: Usually BJJ, Wrestling and some form of striking like boxing/muay thai/kickboxing even karate

who cares

so Usain Bolt would lose in a decathlon against a decathlete, we al know who the greater talent is

I mean ray mercer wasn't an incredible boxer but tim sylvia was a world champion soooo...

that's your opinion man

that might have been the original intention, but as the sport evolves, people train what's most effective to be successful

Ray Mercer was a world champion. And you want to talk about Toney not giving a fuck and being out of shape, Sylvia was basically obese then and already gone from the UFC, didn't care and again the rules were originally boxing only

Yes, the decathlon athlete because he's better in every athletic related discipline, yet for some reason the one dimensional meme gets applauded

it was sylvias sport, it was not james toney's sport, how ignorant can you be

boxing world championships are far less meaningful than a ufc one, there are vacant boxing titles non stop and there are like 50 of them in each weight class, make a better argument

But how can the guy who needs more restriction to fight be a better fighter than a guy who fights closer to reality in an 1 vs 1 situation?

>Ray Mercer was a world champion

WBO was not a legit belt then

The UFC wasn't the biggest promotion when Sylvia was champion of the UFC. The best heavyweights were in PRIDE:
Fedor, Nogueira, Cro cop

Also you guys keep conveniently ignoring that mercer lost to a literal bum
youtube.com/watch?v=DahOLe5z3Ek

Obese sylvia just stood in front of him like a moron

>it was sylvias sport
Do you know how to read, retard? The fight was originally supposed to be a boxing match, the commission made it an MMA fight, then they agreed to box only in the fight

>boxing world titles mean less
Yet Mercer was still a champion, the WBO heavyweight champ after knocking out Tommy Morrison, and if you want to nitpick then the UFC's heavyweight division at the time was second to Pride's heavyweight division. Sylvia was maybe the 5th best heavyweight at best at that time.

>make a better argument
Its completely fine. You're a retard that can't read and doesn't like his frilly narratives about boxers being actual fighters ruined

I don't give a shit

Why are MMA fans so insecure?

40 year old geriatric retired Floyd stopped mcgregor for the first time in 6 years lmao

so ken shamrock is garbage then?

Why do boxing fans get so insecure that their fighters would get pummeled by middle school aged wrestlers? Cuck fetish?

>amateur goes 10 rounds with one of the greatest boxers of all time

Nice """"sport""""

I don't think anyone cares mate. MMA seems to be struggling atm, maybe you should focus on improving your sport instead of shitting on others?

I saw a kick thrown and attempted ground and pound. I don't care what it was supposed to be, IT WAS an mma match.

>knocking out MMA "fighters" left and right
>knocks out the MMA featherweight "GOAT" in 13 seconds
>can't even make Floyd flinch with his punches

Floyd carried Conor btw

>40 years old
>significantly smaller
>not a hard puncher

still walked through connor's best shots and put made him quit connor would not last seconds with boxers of similar size such as ggg, canelo or errol spence

Nigger do you literally not know how to read? I'll even repost it to drive it through your fat head

>as originally scheduled as a boxing match. They agreed to keep the fight standing and only punch, Sylvia kicked him to start the fight which is why Mercer got pissed

Are you just mad because the context literally deprives you of any satisfaction?

>muh tv ratings
The lowest rated UFC on Fox show did equal to or better than any PBC on Fox show did, ever

>literally his first boxing match ever

>still manages to go 10 rounds with one of the greatest of all time

Now I know why they call it a boxing match, and not a fight. What a pathetic """"sport"""

>h-he wasn't even trying
Sad!

Kimbo fought Mercer in June 23, 2007
First pro fight in November 10, 2007
He fought shamrock in June 19, 2015

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>verbal agreement to stand and box (not part of the rules)
>threw a kick

sounds like he lied and still got slept

Imagine a basketball player putting 3 goals past a hockey goalie

Now imagine hockey fans being impressed the goalie only let in 3

That's Mayweather-McGregor

Why did Fox lowball the new contract then? Oh, because UFC no longer has any big draws. Even McGregor probably won't fight again since he made more money in one boxing match than the entirety of his UFC career.

>the specialist beat the generalist in the specialist's game.
No shit

I'll post it again

>Was originally scheduled as a boxing match. They agreed to keep the fight standing and only punch, Sylvia kicked him to start the fight which is why Mercer got pissed

Mayweather trains only his hands. Conor has to train everything: kicks, knees, elbows, punches, takedown defense, ground game(a world on its own)

first person to stop connor in a fight was a 40 year old past his prime who was much smaller and never known as a power puncher

Because the recent ratings are low? Do you expect PBC to get a good deal or something? Cord cutting is happening to every sport. I'm not saying the UFC is in some boom or something but to imply its dying is as silly to say boxing is dying

What are you talking about? Conor had been stopped before in MMA by Duffy, Sitemkov and Nate Diaz

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>"""verbal""""agreement to """"box""""
>threw a kick

>James "Lights Out!" Toney

What did he mean by this?

Im sorry that wasn't a fight, that was a boxing match between the greatest of all time in the sport vs an amateur who does more coke than cardio. I'd be utterly humiliated if Floyd came into MMA and even lasted a minute against Conor. Apparently a bum in boxing going half an hour against an all time great is the norm

Did Sylvia try to wrestler with him or did he just stand there like a fat fuck in front of Mercer?

Look at Kimbo vs Mercer and Toney vs Randy
youtube.com/watch?v=DahOLe5z3Ek

Yes, that's why Mercer got pissed, it was nonetheless supposed to be boxing strictly, that doesn't mean they were actually fighting as if it was an MMA fight

But sure, Ray Mercer is an excellent grappler evident by getting choked by Kimbo

Do you just enjoy your narrative getting put on pooicide watch?

If conor went against someone like GGG or Canelo he would've been starched in 30 seconds

Yes, the reserve would probably happen in an MMA fight

Cannor wouldn't have survived two rounds with Canelo lol.

>i-i-i-if

Conor went 10 rounds with the greatest of all time in boxing. That's embarrassing even for your faux-sport

hmmm went 10 rounds with Floyd, sure styles make fights but floyd is the GOAT and conor lasted pretty long

i think you overestimate how much of a sport boxing really is

its more like a video game

a faux sport that's still more popular and lucrative than your white-trash pub brawl sport will ever be.

>9 seconds
he threw a kick and had basically no time to do anything else so we will never know, but he already broke the verbal agreement by throwing the kick

Except it's not the goat in his prime you clown. Are you trolling or that retarded? Prime mayweather would've ripped his head off in live tv. It's like beating up a 60 year old Muhammad Ali and saying you beat the goat

>we wuz lukrative n sheet

cringing for you

I know there's alot of spergs here, but I'm more convinced everyone is fucking around right. I mean you cant be that dumb.

he comes from a sport where you get hit in the head a lot what is your point, all he did by lasting 10 rounds is take more brain damage, what a legend

I never said prime, doesn't even matter, he's still in fantastic shape and conor effortlessly went 10 rounds.

Again just imagine some drunk tard off the street putting up 30 on Jordan, basketball fans would be livid.

Then again basketball is a sport so they have standards

>sport literally only survives due to hype jobs and meme fighters like rousey, lesnar, slice etc, and your only stay fighter keeps getting banned for doping

lmao'ing @ you

Im not repeating it again, if you have issues with your narrative being shattered that an MMA fighter actually lost a quasi-boxing match thats on you

>all these fools talking big like they are in anyway professional in anything other than being soy sucking neets

joe rogan here ama

except conor can actually take a punch as this was the first time he was ever stopped and he comes from a boxing background in the first place, your drunk tard comparison doesn't exactly make sense

>sport only survives due to hype jobs and meme fighters

Sounds like every sport

>the greatest of all time in this discipline took almost the maximum alloted time to defeat his untrained opponent, how impressive!!!

Being in fantastic shape at 40 years of age coming off a 4 year retirement is different than being right in the prime if your career. This holds especially true in the lower weight classes where there is a bigger emphasis on speed as opposed to power. Conor didn't effortlessly make 10 rounds when he missed virtually every significant shot he threw and nearly died the round prior to the TKO.

9 seconds, sorry your ground humper never got his chance to lay on top of another man

And the drunk tard played ball in high school, he must be totally near Jordan's level!!!

>comes from a boxing background
No he doesn't, he comes from a karate-taekwondo background and won some amateur title in boxing when he was 18. Does every amateur suddenly have a shot of going 10 rounds with Floyd because they fought in Golden Gloves?

I hear the UFC is trying to bring Lesnar in again? Fucking hell, the desperation lmao

Literally never said prime. Lebron could take 10 years off from basketball and it'd be an absolute joke if some junior college shitter kept a 5 point margin with him until the last two minutes

The answer to this thread is pretty straightforward. Yoel is a rare genetic freak, that also happens to be on PEDS.

>multiple division world champion striker
>high school ball

yeah man I totally see the similarity

>he says as boxing brought in some coked up drunk mick to go 10 rounds with their GOAT

smdh

I know right? Otherwise it would've ended up just like this! But the quasi-boxing match prevented that :(

That's a bad example because
A) they're different sports
B) Conor didn't put Floyd in any trouble at any point of the fight. So saying "5 point margin" is misleading because the fight was one sided.

>greatest boxer of all time against a guy whose boxing experience is some third tier amateur tournament when he was 18

Seems pretty apt, but yeah dude in every other sport you'd see Tom Brady going toe to toe with the best

>different sports
Like boxing and MMA?

Conor went 10 rounds with Floyd. TEN ROUNDS. Against an amateur. AMATEUR.

Toney was washed up. He's incredibly punch drunk from sparring everyday instead of doing roadwork.

did kimbo get ray to the ground before he got his first punch off? oh what's that, he didn't? I guess all your """"point"""" proves is that kimbo has a better chin than sylvia

conor never had a chance at winning

You would be too if your favorite sport is essentially WWE lite

You realise all of Slice's opponents were paid to lose?

Still funny how the UFC gave him every chance possible because they needed the viewership tho

My point is that boxing isn't a sport and they get floored by 12 year old wrestlers. Quasi boxing matches dont really prove anything

And still went 10 rounds. I get that boxing isn't a sport so these comparisons about nobodies in other sports coming and dominating doesn't sound so far off. But it's very embarrassing

>i-it was fixed!!!!

Yeah im sure ray mercer is a wrestling and jiu jitsu ace

Kimbo got two fights in the UFC and was then let go, i would hardly call that every chance

Obviously a boxer is extremely unlikely to beat an MMA fighter. Any and every martial artist is unlikely to because MMA practitioners are well rounded. However you can't deny the effectiveness of boxing, a sizeable portion of fights in the UFC are dictated by someone's ability to box. The vast majority of KO's come from traditional boxing techniques. It's really effective and the way mcgregor has been able to clown all of his opponents with just amateur boxing experience is evidence of that. We've never even had a truly high level boxer in their prime do MMA.

wasnt even competitive conor's head was a speed bag

because the money is dog shit compared to boxing

Conor has MMA distancing, MMA set ups, grappling ability, and a variety of kicks. He's not winning fights just because of pure boxing ability.

It's too much of a learning curve for in prime boxers because they don't have the slightest grappling background or any ability to deal with any kicks

Impressive. Only took the pro boxing legend 8 rounds to actually achieve that against the novice.

It's common knowledge mate. Why do you think the company collapsed soon after he lost to Petruzelli (who even admitted he was told taking a dive would be worth his while). I don't know how any real MMA fan could think Slice was a legit fighter lmao,

He isnt a legit fighter. Neither is Ray Mercer. Why do you think a non-fighter untrained in fighting lost to another non-fighter that has trained in it is so absurd?

Of course MMA uses boxing but they have boxing adapted to MMA. It's a totally different game when people can kick you on your thighs and your head and also knee you if you duck. They have to change stances and also they have to get used to people faking take downs. Many talented strikers become useless on the feet because of the threat of the takedown. A wrestler takedown a guy once and then he becomes tentative on the feet so the wrestler starting feinting and even connects on the striker. It gives the impression the wrestler is a better striker. We've seen this thousands of times in MMA

boxers don't make the switch because of the money primarily, not because it's 'too hard'. if any of these mma clowns could compete in boxing they would, it beats being a borderline slave jester, it's far more difficult to transition from mma to boxing than vice versa, mma fighters generally have a strong base and are sufficient in the other aspects, having elite boxing skills would help any mma fighter, but why would a boxer learn how to become sufficient in grappling when they can just make more money from 1 fight than the majority of ufc fighters make in their entire career.

Lmao like boxing to basketball is as similar as boxing to MMA. You're a clown. Conor going 10 rounds with Floyd is due to a mix of factors. Floyd is not a prolific finisher, he is old, coming off a retirement, and employs a defensive style. Ontop of all this I think Floyd wasn't planning on steamrolling Conor in the first round. Would've been anticlimactic, and IIRC he even stated he would finish him in a particular round with the the intention of letting the fight draw out. Also I would imagine Floyd didn't want to take any unnecessary chances.

Lastly, can you use your chimp brain for a moment? Think of the narrative you're trying to believe. "Uh Conor lasted 10 rounds with the goat so clearly boxers aren't that skilled! See guys? MMA fighters aren't that far off!!"

This is essentially what you want to believe right?

The problem with this retarded belief is that if Conor was to fight even an average ranked boxer- let alone Savages like Canelo or GGG, he would get mauled quickly. Do you see how that works? Or do you actually think Conor could last 1-2 rounds with either of them?

...

THIS. Why move from boxing to MMA when you can make so much from boxing? The only boxers who even consider going into MMA are ones who can't compete in boxing anymore

Why are boxing fans so insecure about this? I never said anything about money not being a factor. Regardless its too steep a learning curve for someone who has trained in one very specific and limited discipline for a long time

Dont act like boxing outside the top isnt complete dogshit pay, its why some actually transition to mma because the dogshit pay there is actually better than boxing

I find grappling specialists age so much better, they have a really good economy of movement

It doesn't matter how you compare it. I know in real sports this stuff doesn't happen but Conor is amateur level in boxing and still went 10 rounds with Floyd. You can come up with all the excuses you want. Just don't be a brainlet retard like and actually being proud of a legend taking 30 minutes to beat an amateur. In real sports, that's pitiful lmao

Floyd is a defensive boxer with glass hands. It was also an exhibition match and it's highly likely floyd drew out the fight so people got their money's worth

Do you really think conor would last 10 rounds with an actual puncher?

I've heard the story of MMA guys who went from no experience to contenders in 5 years or less many times, such as nnganou, costas, JDS, mitrione I have never heard of a top of the food chain boxer who didn't dedicate their entire lives

MMA is a shitshow of mediocre fighters, which is why you're hard pressed to fight a dominant fighter without multiple Ls on their record

The problem with that is we don't have a big enough database to make those conclusions. The striking ability in the UFC is laughably low, and because Dana doesn't give shit about his fighters it might unfortunately stay that way for a bit. And because of that, making statements like

"oh well X striker couldn't handle x grappler because in the UFC event I saw long ago this one guy..."

When the pay for MMA gets higher, we will begin to see more truly elite boxers and kickboxers right in there prime coming in. When that happens it will be very telling.

I think the best examples of a truly elite striker in MMA now are Israel Adensaya and Gohkan saki. Wonderboy and till have meme resumes so I don't count them.

I'm talking about kickboxing champions here. Are you going to tell me that kickboxers don't know how to strike?

imagine anthony joshua or deontay wilder in mma with their athletic prowess, dear god

Floyd is one of the greatest boxers of all time. Conor is a coked up amateur. It'd be a joke if the old fart at your local gym couldn't put away a 26 year old who just started training in less than 5
Boxing isn't a sport I get it, but if you want to be taken seriously you need to up the standards

Guys who trained in MMA from when they started and grew into the sport, not in the prime guys already learned and trying to figure new shit out

>muh anecdotes
Mitrione is a can, I have no idea who "costas" is, Ngannou got absolutely starched in his first actual challenge in an incredibly shallow division.

Hopkins and Joshua didn't start boxing until they were 20, so much for "dedicated their entire lives"

You can find examples of this in every sport, especially in young sports like MMA

It doesn't mean you'd ever see Lomachenko last a minute against TJ Dillashaw let alone 4 rounds

Boxing is already taken seriously. MMA is still struggling for mainstream relevance and acceptance, especially without memes like Rousey to attract the casuals.

That's because they don't pad the first 30 fights of their career with cabbies like Conor and the fact its MIXED MARTIAL ARTS

MANY martial arts

We've seen that happen multiple times with kickboxers, its a pretty mixed bag but all trained grappling early in their lives

I'm sorry that you're clueless about fighting, I mean it's painfully obvious to any fight fan you're a cazzie. Why don't you answer my question? How many rounds is Conor surviving with GGG or Canelo. The reason you have yet to directly address that is because you'd rather focus on old glass handed retired Floyd who carried him. Probably because you know Conor would accumulate a lifetimes worth of CTE if he fought even an averaged ranked fighter.

Which kickboxing champions? Econoreem? He's considered one of the most overrated kickboxers within kickboxing communities.

>It doesn't mean you'd ever see Lomachenko last a minute against TJ Dillashaw let alone 4 rounds
???????? who said he would, we also know what would happen if TJ fought Lomanchenko in a boxing match

as for
>Floyd is one of the greatest boxers of all time. Conor is a coked up amateur. It'd be a joke if the old fart at your local gym couldn't put away a 26 year old who just started training in less than 5
Boxing isn't a sport I get it, but if you want to be taken seriously you need to up the standards

Floyd won convincingly, if you're trying to hang on to some kind of moral victory that conor laster 10 rounds that's cute, I'm happy you found something to latch onto. Also I'm pretty sure the over under was 9 and a half rounds, so the result was not even remotely surprising.

Who's more elite than Semmy Schilt in kickboxing? He lost to fedor and nogueira in PRIDE.
Look at the size of the motherfucker

wheres the yt stream REEEEE

Also Cro cop 2012 K-1 World Grand Prix Champion
He was elite with a mean sprawl but never beat the two best Nogueira and Fedor.

THE DOLLAR......

THE POWER....

Im really sorry despite over a hundred years of rich history in the “””””sport””””” absolute amateurs can still walk into it and hang with the greatest

>doesn’t count!!
Overeem is a good example anyways. Schilt was a can, Badr quit after one fight (loss), Saki is 1-1 against cans, Adesanya is doing well but still only fought cans. List goes on

>who said he would
No one. Because mma is actually semblant to a sport unlike boxing where nobodies hang with the best

I didn't know getting punched in the head was an amateur sport, Conor seemed pretty good at it when he fought Mayweather though.

I haven't seen that fight actually, how did it play out? I haven't seen the nogueira fight either but he lost to submission nogueira which doesn't even sound bad. Either way, while there have been a few striking talents, that haven't come en masse like grapplers have. The UFC is littered with Olympic wrestlers, judokas, world class sambo champions, BJJ world champions, division 1 wrestlers, black belts, etc. MMA attracts literally the greatest grapplers on Earth. The reason is because these grapplers have nowhere to go really. A boxer or Kickboxer makes enough that they don't need to make the transition. I think it would be far more interesting with a bigger number to work with.

Lol not answering the question, you just made it clear to everyone you're either trolling or a sperg.

You know the objective of boxing is to win, right?

>yfw mayweather killed MMA by making their biggest star too rich to fight again

These are the same autists that actually thought Conor had a chance, then when Floyd carried him 10 rounds and beat the piss out of him, they clung onto "T-T-Ten Rounds with the goat!!!"

>how did it play out
highlights of the fight:
youtube.com/watch?v=o0EvC5LbcAk
the other fight:
youtube.com/watch?v=iAbVoRJ4Sq8

Lol you got me there!!! Im sure itll erase the legacy the goat boxer took 10 rounds to take care of a no one

>Jordan may have only won by 5 against Lavar Ball, but at least he won!!!

I can understand why in a joke nonsport like boxing this is something to be proud of but real sports something like that would be embarrassing. Like if a 1 seed doesn’t obliterate the 16 seed in college its a joke

Why is boxing different? Its also a joke

Yeah I guess, apparently getting submitted in MMA is somehow more embarrassing than getting punched in the face hundreds of times while you miss 80% of your own punches against a guy who is mostly walking straight towards you

Conor did get obliterated.

Lol kickboxers make shit either. Theyve had numerous elite ones go to mma, Most flop

Really? Going 10 rounds seems to indicate otherwise

Why do i even bother? You watch a non-sport and will never understand the comparisons

That's exactly how I thought they would go. We need to see a high level striker make the transition correctly. I think if they really glued everything together they would put in work. Because shilt couldn't do it doesn't mean Israel or others can't.

Getting outclassed for as long as he did was infinitely more embarrassing for conor than getting knocked out in the first round would have been imo. If anything getting hit and not being able to hit his target for as long as it happened proved that boxing is legit af.

Wow thats an interesting perspective. Nonethless it just validates the fact boxing is a non-sport with laughable standards

>We need to see a high level striker make the transition correctly.
We've already seen it. his name is Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic

youtube.com/watch?v=AgsHcZ0-T9M

let me know when mma makes it into the olympics.

Name this "numerous" amount, also high level boxers in their prime have yet to make the transition. And they certainly don't come in the number that grapplers do, it's not even a comparison.

Wrestling - Kyle Snyder taking less than 20 seconds to pin Anthony Joshua: Embarrassing

Jiu Jitsu - Gordon Ryan taking less than 30 seconds to choke out Chris Eubank: Embarrassing

MMA - Conor taking less than a minute to demolish Canelo: Embarrassing

Boxing - Floyd taking 10 rounds to slog by a pikey: Boxing is back, we did it reddit xD

Let me know in what other sport the greatest of all time struggles to beat an amateur

And cro cop is a legend, it should happen more often.

*more than

Lmao

Conor knocked out the goat mma fighter in 13 seconds and couldn't even move floyd. None of those other things would happen. If you give any of those boxers grappling/ kicking equal to conor's boxing skills they win all those fights handily.

Every time you refer to Floyd instead of answering how Conor would've done against Canelo and GGG(who are nowhere near goat discussion) it cements how much in denial you really are.

Aldo isnt even the GOAT in his weight class

>floyd
Oh you mean in boxing where he went 10 rounds with him? Impressive for mma, sad for boxing

>if you make a boxer an elite mma fighter they beat conor
brilliant analysis lad

At this point the little sperg is just gonna repeat the same 10 rounds meme without actually engaging in conversation.

Context is very important. MMA fighters have strengths and weaknesses. Aldo isn't a striker. He is a BJJ fighter with a out-of-this-world takedown defense and some striking talent but Conor was superior to him in the striking department. Aldo tried to strike with him going full aggressive early.

MMA fights are like that game paper-rock-scissors. Styles make fights in MMA

Why am I obliged to answer your question? Why can’t you explain to me why it’s acceptable even by non-sport standards like boxing the GOAT nicks by some nobody? Jordan SHOULD cream Lavar Ball 1v1. Federer SHOULD beat my collegiate level cousin in tennis. Messi SHOULD score past my semi pro goalie level in boxing

Floyd SHOULDNT take 10 rounds to beat a drunk tomato can but DID

Oops I forgot to say. Aldo is considered by some the GOAT (featherweight) of his division but not the overall GOAT

>Aldo isnt even the GOAT in his weight class

He was considered the goat at the time, nice short term memory. Revisionist history at it's finest.

>nice revisionism
Theres no revisionism. You just didnt clarify “at that time”’ no worries bro, you made a mistake. Doesn’t make you dumb, being a cuckxing fan does

I remember after the mendes fight leading up to the conor fight all I head was "goat" "goat" "goat" "goat" by mma fighters and analysts I get that in sports you are only as good as your most recent results but let's not pretend that stuff didn't happen.

Because ultimately, we are trying to find the gap between MMA fighters and boxers. We're using Floyd as a mark for boxing skill, but it's a very misleading mark. It's a misleading mark because of the factors me and other people have stated throughout this thread. Incase your pea brain missed it the factors are: age, retirement, style, damage he's taken throughout his career (glass hands), etc. The most important factor being that Floyd probably carried him for the show, as starching Conor in the first round after people payed 100 dollars would've been a disaster.

This is why I ask the Canelo or GGG question. They are both a great standard because they represent the highest levels of the sport in their prime. You know this which is why you absolutely refuse to answer it. If you did answer you would confirm what everyone here already knows. I'm sure you know to, which is why you're so adamant on ducking it. Which also is why I think you're clowning.

Maybe the p4p discussion but usually the discussion was between Fedor, Jon Jones and Anderson Silva

The gap is clear. Boxers suck at fighting, their only claim to fame is a quasi boxing match and a fight where their GOAT slogged 10 rounds against an amateur. You just cant handle it and thats why youre seething red

You're making me laugh, and I don't even man that in a condescending way. Like everything you say is so bad its YouTube comment section tier lol. It is unfortunate I'll never know if you're trolling or that dumb, but this is Cred Forums so I'll probably go with trolling.

youtube.com/watch?v=EorJNC_vmDY

Awesome bro

Im totally sure itll only go 9 rounds next time now that floyd knows how to fight amateurs

Really wishing for McGregor/Mayweather 2. Get Conor back in the ring with him again and he'll knock his fucking block off, fucking malteaser cunt. Instead of these bent fights with buftie melts.

Another one
youtube.com/watch?v=zQ7bbmjtAB0

what the hell would you define a sport as then?

This is better, one of the weakest boxers in a weak era a fat alcoholic did basic boxing and beat a kickboxer, Kickboxing died that day and that's why it only watched by Dutch and Arabs in run down halls
youtube.com/watch?v=YvqmTmDoDFs

Why weren't others able to replicate his success? Not only that... they look silly. If they at least looked decent but they look fucking silly. For each boxer success there are 2 failures in embarrassing manners.
youtube.com/watch?v=EXkcYul1LRo

10 seconds in and he throws a leg kick, clearly not a boxer.

btw botha has 4 wins and 12 losses in kickboxing

It does not matter, this is a fat basic boxer coming into a sport he knows nothing about and beating two legends. Kickboxing is a joke

It says his wins were by injury. Man, look at that record lmao

that's even worse, their weak ass bodies feel apart, Botha even managed to put one of them on his arse lol.

Conor doesn't even have a boxer's stance, it's more like Tae Kwon Do

Boxing is really good though, and combining it with muay thai creates a very good, well rounded striker

Okay retard. It's not just that Tony was old. He was 10 years removed form his prime. James Toney in his prime fought at Middleweight. lbs. He isn't a heavyweight no matter what shows up on the scale when he fatass steps on it. If you want to compare Yoel to any boxer than Compare him to Wladimir Klitschko.

Discount Canelo discount Khan'd discount GGG.

Of course, boxers usually don't have a background in gay ground hugging.

I'm a huge conor nuthugger but GGG, even now probably past his prime, and certainly Canelo now mauls him in 1 round

Prime GGG takes his head clean off

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Wilder

>But the point of MMA initially was to test styles.
No.

How old are you? 15?

sure dude, an idiot that wanted to butt fuck the black guy because he was too afraid to look like an idiot "boxing"

>tony was natty
wew lad

The original intention of the UFC was to make BJJ look good and every other fighting style bad in comparison. It was a Gracie JJ promo event.

No, it was to demonstrate BJJ looking good and every other fighting style bad to the world.
They where already doing it locally by having open challenges in Brazil long before UFC 1.

And mma fighters would have to train boxing to find success in boxing. What a dumb pointless thread.

Mma fans are literal numales. They know nothing of fighting, watched one UFC ppv and feel the need to voice their useless opinion on both sports