Mad at the pens edition
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Mad at the pens edition
Nhl.com for news
karlsson to canes for a 3rd
fuck the oilers
>canes fleeced
they deserve better
>120 per game for lower bowl
>still half empty coming from 2 cups
im not mad at the pens, im mad at their shit tier fans that cant even bother to go fill their back to back stanley cup winning teams arena
w-we're just poor!
Come join me on /cric/
How mad is it going to make you when the seats are still empty after a threepeat?
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>Lindholm is kill
Pittsburghers care about football and that's it I feel like. I don't think they even care about the pirates despite being historically relevant
Well, I'm not from qcc so I'm good.
RIP Lars' Son's face
He looks more like a Boris than an Evgeni
LOL
Pierre knows an announcer with a long stick from time to time
With 80 million people Germany should be a much better hockey nation than they currently are.
So should UK...
We invented Ice Hockey but we didnt fucking adopt it because shitty football was more popular.
Their jerseys are kino
>yell "basketball"
>get ejected for racism
top wew
cnn.com
>Selanne x3
That's terrible. Too bad things don't seem to be improving too much in terms of popularity of hockey over there.
>Smith Pelly
>NHL star
Stop lying, CNN
Lmaoing hard at Washitton and Trannyston
Actually I see the odd few NHL fans here.
But it might help if the games were not on at like 3am our time.
Only west coast games. East xoast should be on at 11-12pm
They only care about divegrass
Drunk beligerants cant skate
perma banned too
>rags
blackcocks fans btfo
chiredit YAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSS
about to end it all lads
imagine....
why? tell me senpai
do it faggot
take kippers with you pls
he's an edmountmen fan
which is still too late for most people who have to work and shit
for western team fans like me or uk bro games are at 3-4 am most times
not enough quality memes lately
Get ready POOBURGH
its possible to rewatch games with lazyman
I'll take her anywhere she wants
I'm a hasb fan, which is as bad this year
I understand all of them except the green orangutan
>her
Is someone going to link me kippers nudes?
First I heard of this meme
all /hoc/ memes are fucking garbage so I don't know what to tell ya
no one knows
the thing that kippers is, then
pic related
plz create quality memes binlan
Stop posting cp
Post hat
pretty sure it's an small asian dudes ass who lives in vancouver, nothing to get excited about. and it's literally just that ass pic
...
At least we're not /cric/
this,
chink porn is immoral and unethical
Johnson ded? looks bad
the pic is also like 6+ years old now. who knows if father time has been kind or not.
i was about to type "its an abstract kind of braaap" but its already the filename, fuck
LET'S GO DE-VOLS
avs dmen dying left and right
wew lad
wew
I got banned for braaaap posting about 2 months ago, now I only write it in filenames
for me, it's adding rice to chicken tortilla soup and eating it with tortilla chips
>remember when pulju was cool
no?
oilers effect
>fort bragg
well at least it has an appropriate name
>coincidentally right around the same time he started playing in edmonton
>BUST
Good. You deserve your ban
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delete this immediately
ok
>gif
>mackinnon has the most ppg starting at this arbitrary date
this
trust the finn
also, is Wood suspended? oh shit, just heard, he is
den glider in
>mfw janitors are bulju weebs
based
>since ducshit has left
>arbitrary day
Duchene trade is less arbitary date than anything besides the start of the season
did the bulju post get JANNIED?
>that oilers autism rage fit on the bench
Kek
>lolirado assalanche
I hope McDavid gets ass cancer.
In less than 5 years McDavid is going to be playing for a real team and competing for the stanley cup.
you can delete your own posts, friends
100% pure autismo from our fellow jannies
that's why i asked, friend
Lanklets BTFO
see
is this b8
How can one man be so great?
IM GOING TO SPREAD YOUR BREAD WITH MY CREAM CHEESE
Thanks friend appreciate it
who /lit/ here?
>mfw I realised I'm literally retarded
I pity the foo who's not watching Devils Canes right now
I'm /his/. is that close enough?
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pulju w da gwg in 5 minutes
i havent read a book completely in a long time. i always skip sections.
wouldn't been the first time though janny took the fun away
so many wasted canes chances right now
ohh im lit friendo
Blood Meridian atm friend
DUDE
>crapalanche
just fold this fucking team already
I'm too lazy to read much these days though I enjoy it a lot
>lolirado
>/his/
my nigga
>oilers winning
>less chance of dahlin
this is good
wheres that brit who said he had 5 grand on avs to win?
BLACKED
L
A
C
K
E
D
KEK
what a retard
based bratt winning the penalties
I understand. Currently I am reading the collected works of Poe.
i can't stay focused on a book long enough to read for an hour. it must be add or autism
Who are the bad guys in the league?
Best Mikko pls put the nose lickin homo and the autistic pizzaface he sexually abuses back in the bin
WHERE'S MY CONFETTI?
ofcourse, dont wanna be a brainlet
whoever is in charge of music at the can is fucking dogshit
WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHO'S A BASED ROOKIE?
NICONICONICONI
...
*blocks your path*
mikään henkilökohtainen poika
>Who are the bad guys in the league?
for me, it's Chara and Lucic
canucks fan?
>no personal boy
Lmao nice Mongolian language you have there
>pingkinnon
does mango count? :^)
Panthers road unis are underrated
canucks fans only hate marchand, kadri, and messier desu
the car badge looks better than the leaping cat desu
>messier
y?
their new jerseys are sick, the old cats logo is shit and too cartoony
How many do the Penguins win by today, lads? I hate idiots who exaggerate, so I'm keeping it realistic: Pens 12 BlowJobs 0.
>lolirado assalanche
what a shit team
It's a long reason but basically he is an entitled shithead.
he's a dirty jew
>messier is unironically the best player to ever be on the cantpucks
wew
wtf I love ho-sang now
HAHAHAHAHAHA
/f/ /wp/ /e/ reporting
are we watching the canes?
>it's another avs only lose at home to shit teams episode
Kill me
yes we are
oh no
we're patiently waiting for the pens to btfo the teds
all his career totals came from edmonton and new york tho. he really shat the bed when he played in vancouver.
>lose at home to the Oilers and coyotes
lmao'ing at your life
based
...
I am
bless you and checked
cbj pitt
>""tripping"" call against canes
finest refpuck here lads
not ready to take a midafternoon nap atm
>2 shit teams with no fans
no thanks
Don't forget the sabres
I swear this team keeps coming up with new ways to disappoint me
to be fair the avs lost 2 dmen, one being first pair
still garbage game in the third there
hello plz join our server because we have no good posters and we need more finns
finns and norwegians welcome
homosexuals are not
that means u cancucks
discord.gg
hasb fan
I hope EJ is alright
dw bro, I'm a snes fan I know the disappointment
REKT
>having a discord account in current year +3
canes building looking more and more full
>discord
>homosexuals not welcome
so nobody is allowed?
Poopoopeepeejarvi
hello what are we watching?
Devils Canes
>he didn't just wake up from his nap in time for the only worthwhile game today
canes/playing rocket league
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Pongs BJs for some Torts autistic rage
Are there literally no rangers fans at Cred Forums?
aren't they pretty much giving tickets away for free?
>rags
>pittsburgh only has 3 pro teams
>columbus only has 2
holy lel what shitholes
they heard "rebuild" and became islanders fans.
bullied out, what do you expect
it's a game with the Devils so they came to watch the porn unfolding
>rags
is that why 36 chambers and DGI left?
>The Ohio State Buckeyes
jealous
Reminder that Avs are still in a wildcard race whilst Oilels have no chance at the playoffs.
no they are plastic casual (you) hunters that dont care about hokkei.
what do they have to do with pro teams
>oilers losing
thats good
>oilers getting dahlin and ruining him
thats bad
/hoc/ should be unironically cheering for the oilels to win enough for them to get out of the dahlin bowl, but not enough to make it to the playoffs
>Football in the fall
>Hockey in winter/spring
>Baseball in spring /summer
Pittsburgh would be fucking based if the Pirates just tried to compete.
we had a really prominent one in the form of Smuk Anok but as said
Sadly got bullied out
The Avs need a stronger blueline for sure. They can't rely on Barrie and Johnson for everything
There should be an NBA team in Pittsburgh desu. Maybe move the 76er's there.
So basically, it's bad thing to be drafted as nr 1 as you will always go to the worst team in the league?
>losing to basement dwellers
>Bullying the Avs
For what purpose?
it is if you're the revolving door of young talent that goes to shit like the oilels
The draft lottery has been a thing since 2015 or so
Have you identified your required number of cars, street signs, and apartment buildings today /hoc/?
I also don’t care Columbus is a much nicer city than shitholesburgh
so? they werent even the worst overall team when they won the lottery 2 times. last year all 3 top picks were won by teams that had less than 10% chance.
theres not enough niggers to support an apehoop team
red pill me on the oilers, what exactly are they doing wrong to suck all the time?
Columbus is a shithole full of homeless people
Depends, if you get drafted to a wasteland like Edmonton, Buffalo or Arizona yeah you're career is going start troubled. Other teams only need a few good picks to be competitive again
no, because I’m a CHAD phoneposter who has bought a pass which lets me post on LTE
>30% black
That's Seattle
Barrie is shit at defense and it baffles me why he gets paired with Girard sometimes.
He's the only "big" name on the avs I wouldn't mind seeing traded.
they tried to follow a 2012 LA kings model and build a tough physical team by adding cavemen like lucic and kassian, but the NHL is now a speedgame and their cavemen are being left behind.
>draft 1st overall wingers for 5 years
>fail to get defensemen to put behind them
>subpar goaltending (tbf that could be a defense issue)
Fuck Pittsburgh the most polluted city in America
do people actually live in ohio?
is this a pupper or doggo
Yes and it’s comfy as fuck
yeah, mostly just refugees of pennsyltucky i would think
yes, comfy
I'm walking distance from the rink
Define "live"
go pongs!
are you the bong guy?
Out of all NHL-cities which one is the nicest one to visit?
Thinking about going to an NHL-gmae next year
...
...
Yes
he has more secondary assists than you can dream of
>flat
looks like shit desu
I like the new logo a lot, but I feel there is a clear lack of navy blue on the uniforms.
go watch the golden knights. there is lots to do in vegas. probably wont be too expensive.
Can I just say that having a front porch on your house is the comfiest thing. Imagine just sitting out there on a summer day with some iced tea playing checkers with your son. Based Americana.
Even then Girard almost game up a goal today.
At this point I'm hoping Makar pans out and maybe we get a good d-man from the draft.
The irony of trading Barrie is Sakic ruined the trade market and now no one will want to buy him.
I live by a ravine
This
It’s pretty great
For me, it's smoked gouda and ham
For me it's smoked cheddar and fennel salami
Do you have one for the Calgary Flames?
What are leafposts always incredibly gay or completely assblasted?
what a nice house? what state do you live in?
>like the new logo
t. numale MLS fan
The FL Panthers literally had the best sportscat logo in the US and they threw it away for a pussycat shit MLS logo.
>Fartsmell and Gooninsky on the same line
>Never been to a final
Makes you think.
>checkers
what is it like having single digit iq?
>mad
>at a BOARDGAME
...
that's a big yard
>literally had the best sportscat logo in the US
lmfao no, it looked like a generic 90s video game piece
Ohio
for u
>jackies
>poop jackets
Lmao this cuck in here actually thinks the penguins won't shit on his team ahahahahahahahahahah
>cuck
>mad
>at logos
...
TEUVO TEUVO TEUVO
damn ruckus
I have family there as well
what's the name, Columbus
*3peats
The old Panthers logo looks like it has killed and is ready to kill more. The new logo cat looks like it’s slightly peeved that it’s good hasn’t been put out yet. What’s your favorite soylent flavor?
SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
fucking finally, thank god canes
>New Jersey defense
>tfw team isn’t playing
>instead it’s matinee tomorrow
>against the mild
Man, fuck this. And /myteam/ lost in 4CC
Goddamn right I’m mad they ruined an absolutely based logo for a piece of shit.
>wearing goalie skates
DROPPED
Well im a goalie
Cleveland
Lmao, we stole their franchise and kept their name too
>mad
>at logos
calm down la, go drink your soy
>THE CLEAVE
OHHH HA
HAHAHAHAAA
BRUH
But goaltending is the thinking man's position
I thought I was the only one, my initial thought when I saw the logo was that this is some MLS teams logo
liked the old one more, new one isn't too bad though
THIS GUY HAS AT LEAST 3 D-U-I's xDDDD
I liked the old logo too, but I don't see how the new one is for soyboys. It was modeled after the 101st Airborne Division of the Army.
of course Girard isn't perfect either but I think he has more upside overall than Barrie.
Fuck I think even Bigras could still turn out a better offensive dman.
I think avs are actually quite packed at D prospect wise at the moment. Timmins comin in probably next season. They need goalies and wingers. Maybe a guy like McDonagh for a short term to help out Girard.
youtube.com
In how many bings and bongs is the banters@jets game?
not him but west side is comfy
Goaltending is the position for crazy people
>is retarded
>is mad at logos despite not knowing anything about it
wew
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I've never been in that part. Everything I've seen is shit
Cleave bro, who's >your team
Imagine living more than an hour away from an ocean.
Crazy is good, no?
Bluejackets
Fuck shitsburgh
Ducks should rebrand
Imagine living near an ocean that's too cold to swim in
>living on the lefty coasts
>pens fans only jumped on the wagon when they got good
i'm shocked
Imagine not living close to snowy, comfy mountains
>rags
imagine not living on a large, freshwater lake
>Seattle
>1 hour from comfy mountains
>1:15 from comfy ocean
It really is the best city
ALSO
>POOO JACKETS
>it was 2-0
>cuckjackets
Enjoy the threepeat ted
KILLING MYSELF
what the fuck is Vatanen doing? WHAT?
hey bro
*psh*
don't make me feel so hard man
that's the thing i literally miss the most since I moved to vienna
getting up early, dad drives you up to the mountains so you can snowboard all day
fuck we're getting buttblasted already
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Montreal
imagine living in the rust belt
Goaltending is for lanklets who can't take a hit
imagine using the passive aggressive leafcuck imagine meme unironically
...
canes building gettin loud, can't wait for them to retake loudest arena in the league
Imagine not being able to drive to Finland on one tank of gas
who is this qt?
It's happening, boys.
ummmmmm sasha grey
Post hockey QTs
hitomi tanaka
>Tfw stockey Manlet goaler
Considering ending it all lads
GO JACKETS
a scholar and a great philosopher of our time
>Russian Goaltending
Laughing SO HARD at Ted from Akron
you first
Tie Domi
BREADMAN DELIVERS
...
you're just trailing by 2 goals and it's the first period, relax
THE BREAD MAN COMETH
APOLOGIZE
>most dangerous lead
HAPPENING
NOT SO FAST POOBURGH
Im sorry based reddit man
Who are the top five reddit players?
>POOOOOOOO JACKIES
Bobrovsky in fine playoff form
GET BOB OUT OF THERE
>Lets go Pens chant in Columbus
Why do the Poo Jackets have such shit fans?
Is Bobrovsky a bigger bust than Price?
>allowing two Sheahan goals
wtf Bobby
Sergei "Lundquist" Bobrovsky
>P3NGU1NS
GET UP DEVILS, GET UP!
>4 shots
>3 goals
What did they mean by this?
>4SOG
>3G
this guys elite?
>the movie was okay, but the book was much better
BOBROVSKY YOU'RE OFF THE FORCE
Leaving this earth
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESA
S
WHAT A BEAUT
WHAT
A
BEAUT
PAVEL ZACHARIN
Why would you save a thumbnail you numbnut
>Bob makes a save
COMEBACK HAPPENING
>the shanty town of poolumbus
see you, space cow
nice goal by the devils
Pens are gonna 3peat and eliminate the caps in round 2 again aren't they
>direct linking cnn
archive.is
Also how the fuck is basketball a racial taunt when it was invented by a white person and said in fucking Chicago of all places which fucking loves basketball and shooting each other? Is this nigger serious?
Just like pottery
Has a team ever had a winning record yet a large negative goal differential.
Like they win alot by 1 but when they do lose its like 5-1
thanks brazbro
Whats the name of the hurricanes color commentator? He sounds manly af.
>Pens are gonna 3peat
no
>eliminate the caps in round 2 again aren't they
probably
black science man
I applaud your veracity
what a terrible change by poolumbus
HOW DO WE SAVE TED FROM AKRON
RIP ted
I've been on /hoc/ for years now and saw memes rise and fall but I unironically don't understand the Ted from Akron meme.
Somebody please explain
>can't wrestle the kessel
Make geamthreads you faggots stop shitting up the general
hi Ted
>tf
>tp
playoffs last year, some tripfag was called Ted from Akron and he was a duffus
pretty sure he's gone, there are a few other jackeis fans tho
Nice proxy Ted
who are you to tell us what to do?
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>crosby crying
wow why are reddithawks fans racist as FUCK
thanks a lot friendo
Someone at least make a grease containment Devils thread
because they are surrounded by the worst behaved darkies in the country
>crying about Crosby crying
isn’t grease getting evicted lel
They don’t fall it chiraq because it’s in the desert.
Other dude is lying there was no tripfag name ted. ted is just synonymous with your typical yokel fan on here from ohio who lives in a rustbelt town and roots for the blue jackets
Hi newfriend
is there a holiday tomorrow in america or why are there afternoon games?
t. proxy ted
hello rebdit
T H R E E
P
E
A
T
t. Ted projecting
>tf
>tp
Did cleave bro leave after his team was down 2 goals?
not yet is seems
or he already is and broke into an internet-cafe for the night
ted from akron here ama
will bob have a better sv than .8
>you will never have a qt wife that is super proud of your NHL career
just kill me now
>proud of a cupless career
I wont even have a QT wife, or any wife.
T. Kissless virgin
he'll be pulled during this intermission
>t. new fan
He won in 2000 and 2003
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>you'll never have a qt wife that supports you through your nhl career
>you'll never take her to the game to watch your sons first nhl game
JUST
U
S
T
Get a hooker
>meet qt on dating website
>really start to hit it off
>tells me she had a son with a sandnigger
FUCK
Too broke. Im also a neet
NEETs btfo
>rags
like i care
For me it's the Sharks.
>average leaf issues
t. lives in toronto
that’s a fat monkee
Just brushed my teeth and immedietly after drank a redbull forgetting that i just brushed my teeth. Shit was nasty.
>7-4
>rags
>redbull
>at 7
John Forslund & Tripp Tracy for broadcast
Chuck Kaiton for radio
>energy drinks
Just woke up
>7
Nigga it's only 4 on the best coast
based NEETbro, have no worries
T. Drinks 2 coffees loaded with milk and sugar
wow why are you guys so mean
Shut the fuck up atleast I pay my debts
>no laffs game thread
was just trying to lift up your spirits
Only one coffee, two milks, two sugars. The breakfast drink of champions.
There's a holiday in Canada tomorrow, not sure about burgers
>can't handle banter.
comfy is just a code word for boring desu
who let the sharks redditor in
Can someone explain why basket ball? And why someone would get booted for saying it?
>every team is reddit
Comfy free (You)s from autists
ADIDAS ALTERNATE / 3RD JERSEYS FUCKING WHEN?
all tripniggers are reddit
Doesn't make the team reddit
>basketball is waycist
Basketball-americans like to play basketball.
Apparently thats racist.
what's reddit?
is it that hacker the news always talks about?
idiot, I said the poster, who is a sharks fan is a redditor not the team
imagine if they said "SCHOOL SHOOTING SCHOOL SHOOTING" to somebody
>regular season gamethreads
*t
t. fan of a shit team with no fans
Adidas please
Ah so because he's black?
So what just words. Get the fuck over it you cock sucking nigger faggot.
It's happened so much it kind of lost all it's impact. Kind of like Boeser styling on people.
good jersey to be honest
Do you have any proof that i post on this reddit site?
based toilet shorks guy, are you here?
its washington's birthday tomorrow
>tfw just want black alternate back
Dundon pls make it happen
sZAR
Uhm, I'm gonna have to ask you NOT to reply to Kippers that way.
>desperate (You)-starved tripnigger thinks I’ll reply to him
yeah nah this isn’t reddit
>poolumbus getting shrekt 4-1
he didn't even drink it
where's ted?
Torts fighting in the hallway when?
Solid orange looked better IMO
I know he pussied out and spit it back out
source for newfags
youtube.com
he ended it all after jumbo went down
based Adam
based Keith
Canes Black's are sick brah
I resprlectfully refuse again they're just words and was making a point, you Mongolian blowjob machine
Agreed also see
Too boring desu, like it's better than the duck foot but I personally like the black in
reminder that energy drinks may do irreversible damage to your heart and should avoid drinking it. shits just a tiny can of 20 cups of sugar anyway, its dumb
fuck that let's see it on ice
You ready for Hillary's massive cock Finland?
Just drink zipfizz or an equivalent tbdesu
B12 is awsome
>threadly reminder that the NHL should bring back the glowpuck in 4k
Who cares, what's my heart ever done for me anyway
I don’t get it, it’s not like they called him a nigger or anything. If fans told a white nba player to go back to hockey no one would care
Minnesotas 3rd jersey is the best looking jersey. Prove me wrong.
>reddit humor
>NHL should bring back the glowpuck
>go to Chicago
>get absolutely EXPOSED
>"Waaahhhh they were racist!"
Jesus christ capitals
lol your mom gay
It was pretty clear what they were implying though
I do agree some people are too sensitive/uses every opportunity they get to create unneccesary drama, but this is a little tasteless; the Hawks have a black player too ffs
They should. I'm sure the technology has advanced to the point it would actually work properly this time.
Not pump enough blood to your brain
fucking shit
they let their guards down for jsut a second
oh well, you'll get one point Canes
Put the logo instead of words and you're right
NOT SO FAST GREASE
I think we all agree they should bring back the glow puck for at least when it's along the near boards and you literally cannot see it.
JEFF "FUCKING YOUR BITCH" SKINNER
>caring about the Bettman cup
>bring back meme puck
get fucked if you can't follow the play without arrows pointing where the puck is
Why do you need to see it if you know it's there
Mad old niggers
shit taste casual fan kys
What the fuck is this reddit gif?
Go reddit-space somewhere else.
Can't we all just get along?
It's 2018. There's no need for racism to exist in this day and age.
fuck off
Why is /hoc/ so obsessed with reddit?
is 27 old now?
i don't know i picked it off google sometime ago, why do you know it's from reddit, you seem to know a lot about this place
post selfie
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I've been traded to the Canes in NHL18 lads
About to fire it up with Skinner and Staal
what do you mean?
>implying
but they still didn't say anything racist though the only ones who are racist are the ones thinking it's racist.
dumb chink
the Canes DJ really likes Ozzy
why do you have number 91?
I'm born in ´91
DJ Masta Illz is unironically the weakest link of this organization
bring back Ric Flair WOOOOOOS and pick a real goal song for the love of fuck
ban this r*dditor please
Penguins look unstoppable right now. If they grab a legit 3C this might be the easiest cakewalk to a Cup for a team in the cap era.
Aho is very good
>scandinavian posters
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
TAYLOR
"VAL"HALL"A"
FUCK YES
FUCK YES
FUCK
YES
E
S
Mentally, your just being an old salty fucker. Just the same as grandpa that complains kids don't put in resumes in person any more.
for me, it's homemade banana bread
>trips of annoying
fugg
>Ward
goddamn, this is why the canes can't have nice things, goaltending is pure shit for them
Also you're full of shit if you're trying to tell me you never ever never lose the puck from time to time
>Skinner-Ryan-Hanifin
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PETERS YOU FUCKING IMBECILE
Fuck the penguins
Fuck the threepeat
Gonna end it all lads
...
at his age he plays impressively.
k
why do you have 21 pics of big buff
*sevenpeat
NEW n' shit
ok,i undestand, i am against it as i don't want it to be imposed on the broadcasts for the sake of getting casual fans to watch more hockey. If it is introduced as an extra add-on you can choose to watch the game with i don't really care.
>you're full of shit if you're trying to tell me you never ever never lose the puck from time to time
obviously i don't see the puck all the time as it leaves the screen from time to time, but if you have a good understanding of the dynamics of hockey you can spot the puck as soon as it comes back on screen
It's probably for the best
*brings yr cup to da desert*
Made an assload of scallops and pasta with thai peanut sauce, you fags jelly? Yee you jelly
>PEANUT SAUCE
FUCK OFF AND DIE LEAF PEANUT SAUCE IS NASTY
>being this peasant
Enjoy your hot pockets and pizza pops or whatever you poor neckbeards eat
Same here but it's be nice plus I like the red tail on a shot