>inb4 "not a real woman" practically speaking there isn't any difference for me >inb4 "muh mental illness" it is an illness and transition is the best known treatment at the momen >inb4 "muh axe wound" it passes perfectly fine and works like every other vag I interacted with
Yeah lemme doubt that. Personally I would recommend the Coach Gun, reliable and cheap !
William Gomez
Being on here is a leftover habit from my teenage years not everyone on here is a miserable fuck, sorry fren :(
Connor Murphy
No problem fren, I might be miserable as you say but in the end I got a family and friends supporting me. So remember this when the moment comes: you will die alone and hopefully the afterlife will be even worse than what you endured.
Why have you not sought out real mental health treatments instead of deciding you hate yourself so much that the only way to "fix" it is to mutilate your body that your daddies defective X chromosome created? Therefore making an XY when paired with your mothers?
Leo Ortiz
>Why have you not sought out real mental health treatments I did for 8 years >Therefore making an XY last time I checked i was XXY but glad you know basic biology
Jonathan Brown
Remove yourself from the Earth, you're not welcome here
Chase Allen
meanwhile in reality chances are you'd be my beta orbiter thinking me cis Sorry but I can't take that serious
Luke Gutierrez
There is no proof that transition helps. The suicide rate stays the same and you're down a lot of money after it. Live your life how you want but I had to correct that falsehood. Gokd luck.
David Phillips
>The suicide rate stays the same and you're down a lot of money after it. citation needed The suicide rate is still elevated compared to normies but lower compared to non transitioners last time I checked
The the suicide rates compared to the CIS population are still much higher as a % per 100 people. That's no coincidence.
People who've undergone trauma tend to have that, Personality disorders are generally attributed to that in poor childhood development and many people who disassociate are likely to have multiple disorders.
What I fail to see how reinforcing that belief aids a person instead of working to fix it, you're proof it doesn't work.
You refer to yourself as Trans, you know full well you're not a woman nor will you ever be a woman, You know biologically you cannot and will not ever be seen with the same value as a born female, you also won't be respected by males peers, You still have to live a lie daily to be accepted.
Chase Gutierrez
Wrong. The best known treatment is starting with therapy. Then escalating to meds, and finally, if it's severe enough to warrant it, surgery.
Joshua Wilson
Who was your surgeon?
Jace Reed
Almost half (48 per cent) of trans people in Britain have attempted suicide at least once; 84 per cent have thought about it. More than half (55 per cent) have been diagnosed with depression at some point. (Trans Mental Health Survey 2012, sample size = 889)
This is taken from Stonewall.
If 50% of the population attempted suicide then it would be defined as an epidemic. But, Trans people? Its seen as being degenerative to begin with so its not shocking at all.
Lincoln Bennett
Not one bit >treatment lowers the rate of suicides >"see it doesn't work" i don't get your logic and now check the numbers pre and post treatment dingus suporn and that's exactly what I did >therapy for years >pills >surgery
Chase Fisher
How long ago did you have srs?
Eli Phillips
trans rights! stay strong. you are valid & awesome.
Zachary Morgan
5 yrs
Owen Reed
Not sure whether you intentionally misquoted to aid your argument or whether you're a bit stupid and that's why you lobbed off your wang.
YOU ARE PROOF BEING TREATED AND HAVING THE SURGERY DOES NOT WORK. YOU STILL REFER TO YOURSELF AS TRANS.
> YOU ARE NOT A WOMAN.
Brandon Carter
Do you have much feeling in your vag? Do you miss having your penis for better pleasure/orgasms
Brayden Walker
not all trans peoples' goal is to pass as cis, retard. and even if they do they still are trans
Samuel Jenkins
Are you Lily?
Charles King
My girlfriend thinks about srs too can you tell me your experience about it? I saw some scary photos of srs vaginas but saw perfectly fine ones as well what's reality?
Caleb Taylor
Precisely. You're not one of the two Genders which reproduction can form. You are sub-human.
Jason Hughes
Whatever thoughts keep you from pulling the trigger
Juan Ward
"Girl"friend.
> Faggot.
Daniel Rogers
will you be my gf, m'op?
Daniel Butler
Genetics suck user too bad the surgery Is the only option for you now. Must suck not being able to be a part or the majority but it's ok as long as your happy. Oh and since this is Cred Forums go kill yourself faggot.
Zachary Cook
I refer to myself as a woman irl but I know that you guys throw autistic fits so why not call myself tranny >feeling yes plenty >better pleasure/orgasms tbqh clitoral/vaginal orgasms are much better yeah getting myself some delicious (you)s you get what you pay for the older you are the more can go wrong
simple as that first you want me to kms now you want me to do things that keep me from kms make up your mind toots
Grayson Green
You're so in denial it's sad. Is what I would be saying if this wasn't obvious bait. No tranny would describe their mutilated genitals as 'perfectly fine and functional' that's not a real thing. That technology doesn't exist, rofl.
Christian Morris
I thought that was you. How have things been?
Nathaniel Miller
Refer to yourself as whatever the hell you like, it doesn't make it true
> I'm now the president of the world.
I don't feel any different, Just by saying it doesn't change anything, I'm still a male.
Hunter Rivera
nah already have a gf sorry you do what you gotta do to not kill yourself tbqh >lubricates >passes >self cleans >can easily take stuff up there I don't see any practical difference between my genitals and that of my gf except for not bleeding out of them every month doing pretty good currently apprentice as a stone mason but in the process of switching to be an EMT >but I know that you guys throw autistic fits so why not call myself tranny
Jack Hernandez
Hell yeah. Glad to hear you're doing well. Are you still living where you used to?
David Rodriguez
How would you know? You don't have a clitoris or a vagina.
John Sullivan
You clearly don't grasp that you're not a tranny. You're a mutilated male. Tranny's don't exist. If they did they'd be born naturally in the womb. Intersex is the closest thing to "Trans" you'll ever find and that's a bonafide medical condition where you're born with both sets of non-functional genitals.
Adam Ramirez
>You don't have a clitoris or a vagina. actually I have both and I'm quite fond of them Me too ^-^ Yeah, since my mother died I own the house so why not live there
Angel Wood
Sorry dude, that does not "pass" .. Either people are being nice so they don't hurt your feelings or they've never seen vaginas before.
That does not pass because by looking at it I can tell it's not a vagina. What more do you want us to say?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I wouldn't fuck it. I'm just saying I can tell at first glance.
William Thomas
Its free to get srs in Sweden though also she is 26 is that too late?
Jeremiah Adams
actually you have neither
Daniel Reed
42% you slug
Cooper Rivera
but m'lady, i'm muscular, strong, physically powerful, resilient, and I can lift heavy things.
Camden Sanders
Oh shit. Last time I talked to you she was still alive. How long ago did she die. Also didnt you file some suit against your dad or something?
Leo Butler
why didnt you keep the cock?
Adrian Myers
no idea about swedish surgeons so look into them with her >26 too lat nah was more speaking of 40+ >when did she die 2, almost 3 years ago >suit against dad yeah, won it obvs because my penis made me feel uncomfortable and dysphoric so can I weird why does my obgyn call them that
Nathan Stewart
I assume they used a tiny bit of the head of ur penis to make a fake clit. There is no way that has better feeling, just from the massive loss of surface area and therefore nerve endings
Liam Moore
Ok ok we gonna do that thanks for replies
Joshua Scott
you dont have both sorry :'( as much as you want it to be true it isnt :( You just have a chopped penis
Shit. It's been a while then if she's been dead for 2 or 3 years. Grats on winning the suit. Christ. Time really flies.
Grayson Powell
what does dysphoria feel like? I'd like to understand
Jordan James
>I refer to myself as a woman irl >but I know that you guys throw autistic fits so why not call myself tranny
While I would probably not throw autistic fits IRL (not that we are ever going to meet face to face), I'd certainly prefer to know the truth TBH.
IMO the more normally others would react, the more normal it would be for trannies (as well as the rest of people) themselves.
Good luck!
Grayson Morris
being trans isn't a gender in itself lmao. you can't seriously be this retarded, right?
Michael Williams
>so why not call myself tranny to not normalize transphobia?
Leo Brown
The sad the lies humans will tell themselves to get through life. Oh sad gross fake vagina tranny what will you do when you're 40 and disgusting? >inb4 an hero
Cooper Butler
>Tranny's Nice education faglord.
Dylan Richardson
>practically speaking there isn't any difference for me Go do the only thing women were biologically (sexually speaking) intended to do and get pregnant, then come back to this thread.
Jacob Howard
Trans literally refers to "Trans-Gendered" That means you're creating a subclass of gender when there are only two biological outcomes, that's not retarded because I refuse to buy into your Fantasy its called scientific proof.
Tyler Perry
i'm definitely the only 1fit individual on this board. You're so strong eh, m'lady? What's your half marathon personal record? Mine is 1:21:14 ...yeah, sorry hun , hey HUN, SORRY but YOU ARE NOT MORE PHYSICALLY FIT THAN I.
You're obgyn calls it that because they would get fired for discrimination if they called it anything else because it would disturb your fantasy world
Jacob Scott
you're misinterpreting the latin "trans-" prefix. it doesn't mean you switch from one gender to "the opposite" - it means you don't identify witht the gender you were assigned at birth (probably based on your external sex characteristics/genitals). nonbinary people can be considered trans as well
Cameron Gray
Did u vote for Trump?
Blake Moore
not OP but imagine waking up with big tits one day and no leg/body hair, your clothes rubbing against you in all the wrong ways and making your body look foreign, etc.
Leo Myers
I mean do what you want with the first two things. Not gonna agree but you do you. However I don't get the cutting off your dick part and I can't get over that part of this mental illness. Your surgeon might be good and he might make it even look close enough to a vagina, but it will never be a vagina. It doesn't have the same nerves, amount of them or the same structure as a vagina. It really is just a mutilated dick pushed inside. Furthermore you can't have kids aside from adoption, you need to dilate often which is another thing pointing to it being just a wound. I am sorry to tell you but you are not a woman. I guess ignorance is bliss for you though. It just seems like you didn't think this through enough. Anyway good luck with your life I guess. Just don't try so desperately, like 90% of trannies, to make people think you are a woman and people won't have a problem with you
Elijah Smith
>That means you're creating a subclass of gender when there are only two biological outcomes This... isn't right? Why don't you do some reading so you're not so misinformed? The term transgender has nothing to do with a male/female gender binary. Google is free, user.
Ryder Martin
You bleed, so you can't breed, you'll never be a real woman. Crack on with life as you want it, but don't blag yourself or anyone else, you are a MTF tranny, which is fine, but you ain't no chick because you were born with a dick.
Jason Nguyen
So because I don't buy into the fallacy that someone is transgendered my education is moot? No. You're literally reinforcing fantasy for the sake of not hurting someone's feelings. That's morally reprehensible
Brandon Harris
ok. I'm male. But I think if I was born female i'd have been ok with that too It's hard for me to understand I'm not against trans. Ive been with them before and liked it
Jose Jackson
>I don't get the cutting off your dick part imagine if every time you saw or remembered it existed it felt like a parasite, something foreign that shouldn't be there there, maybe now you understand more >It really is just a mutilated dick pushed inside. it's like you don't know how biology works and what a clitoris literally is >you didn't think this through enough what's "enough" in your eyes, and why does this person care what the fuck you think? go blog somewhere else >90% citation needed. bet you haven't met more than a couple in real life, if that, shitstain redneck
Benjamin Hall
>I don't buy into the fallacy that someone is transgendered what the fuck else would they be? they literally don't identify with the gender they were assigned at birth. that IS being trans. you trying to debate the dictionary here or something?
and it's "transgender," not "transgendered," dimwit.
Gabriel Green
>But I think if I was born female i'd have been ok with that too you think so, but it's hard to know. your brain would be different. everyone has different conceptions of their own gender though, and i bet a lot of guys would disagree with you there, and can only ever see themselves as a guy. that's cool too! imagine growing up and then going through the "wrong" puberty so your body starts to feel foreign and disgusting to you. that's sort of what it's like for many trans people around that age i think
Matthew Cruz
How the fuck does it lubricate?
Charles Cook
Why isn't it a mental illness?
Parker Robinson
Dysphoria. Trans means changing from one state to another. A butterfly "TRANSFORMS" a gearbox or "Transmission" TRANSMITS power into kinetic energy, a vehicle TRANSPORTS you from one destination to another.
You are stating falsehoods, Not identifying with something isn't "Trans" That's a mental problem its Dysphoria. There is no such thing as changing your gender. it is IMPOSSIBLE.
Hudson Barnes
Again, I can only presume you're a fucking SJW moron who doesn't understand what Trans means. You cannot change your biological state, Chopping off body parts does NOT change your biological state, it only alleviates your mental state and tells your brain that because you don't see a penis, You're not male. Except your skeleton, muscular structure, natural hormones all tell a different story, why else would you also need lifelong HRT?
Carry on though, I'm enjoying pissing on your worldview.
Adrian Turner
If your body was able to think, it would consider your brain a parasite for trying to convert it into something its not. I don't get why you got so mad about my comment though. I really didn't have any foul intention aside from stating my reasoning. Not a redneck either. I personally met only one tranny in real life and he was a pain in the ass about it. I don't have a lot of chance to meet more because I live nowhere near USA or Thailand. Online most of them as well get mad when I don't want to call them a she. And I said "like 90%" implying that its not from some article, but rather from my own thoughts or experience. >it's like you don't know how biology works and what a clitoris literally is and it seems like you don't know how biology works either
David Campbell
you ignore something basic >you can bundle up the nerve endings thus increasing the amount of nerves per square and keep the feel it was numb the first month or so while the nerves reconnected surreal feel tbh cool :) no problem and good luck :) yeah been a crazy few years how have you been? like an itch you can't scratch or something being stuck on your face and while you see it constantly everyone ignores it/pretends it's normal that combined with a general feeling of "that part doesn't belong to me" I don't see the point in the truth unless we are going to fuck why is it relevant i don't care about transphobia? >40 and disgusting judging from how my life is going atm focus on my job and accept that aging is normal I am a lesbian, please show me all those lesbians crying over not being pregnant >1:21:14 not bad ah the good old "erryone is lying" - strat surely this doesn't make you look like a paranoid lunatic not american but would've voted for him in a heartbeat >nerves all I know is that it's now more sensitive than my penis ever was >structure feels like my exes gf tbqh >pushed inside didn't have that technique >can't have kids i don't want kids >dilate didn't dilate months >points to it being a wound factually wrong, but feel free to explain to me why cis women also have to dilate under certain medical conditions
Jace Ramirez
>it is an illness and transition is the best known treatment at the momen Absolute delusion My mom used to work in a hospital that did sex change surgeries,and she would say that its one of the worst surgeries imaginable,and anyone with 2 braincells rubbing against eachother will see this,too
David Hall
you are actually straight. You were born a man and like woman.
Noah Cooper
>can't breed neither can you toots :^) >born with a dick actually i was born with some weird mix the same way a non mutilated dick lubricates cutfag also surgeon used some mucus from the urethra as linging to give a base for growth of mucus and thus a certain amount of base wetness the lubrication increases when excited due to the glands being rewired and the lubrication of normal penile tissue Not 100% sure about it tho all I know is that when I'm excited I get dripping wet >my mom did back ally penile inversions ergo that's the only way it's done I too saw backally appendix removals Yeah, running gag between me and my gf is that her homophobic dad should be fine with me since it's basically heterosexual
Elijah Rogers
There is a difference. You're just not intelligent and or willfully ignorant. I guess that logic means suicide is the best treatment for depression. No, they don't work anything close to a real vagina. Moron.
Do what you want. Stop forcing others to live by your rules though, we don't want that shit.
Luke Butler
You don't have a clit or pussy, it is just dick. You are still a man. But I respect your right to fuck with your body anyway you want. I also have a question that I really hope you answer honestly. If you go on a date with a man, are you upfront about your transitional ideology? If not, when do you tell them? Thanks.
Ethan Kelly
I'm doing alright. Living with my boyfriend now and things have calmed down on my end. Not being at risk of becoming homeless is dope.
Isaiah Kelly
>didn't have that technique fair enough, I don't know different techniques there are for this >i don't want kids It wasn't the point of you wanting or not to have kids, it was the point of saying that you don't have the organs for it
All I am saying is, it may look like a vagina, but it isn't one. You can be happy with it, I am not saying otherwise, its just that calling it a vagina doesn't make it one
John Ortiz
Not OP, but as long as he says that he is a tranny from the start, it should be fine. If he doesn't he is a piece of shit human being
Jaxon Sanchez
would you agree that trannies with cocks are hotter?
Julian Thomas
Don't you guys see? These threads are supposed to shoot blank triggering images at you, just to see how YOU respond so (((they))) can use it against you later. They know we still have the majority, and that the sjws on every available media are just loud, much louder than the ones with rational mind, but that doesn't mean they outnumber us! They will just use the arguments you make here, to get to know you. They will lead the loud people in the media to turn brainless masses against you, to make you seem like all sanity is lost, to make you give up. Don't let them.
Daniel Powell
aww happy to hear that :) Oh so you confuse vagina with uterus what a lovely expert you are let me put it simply My vulva and vagina bear no practical differences to a natal one All i lacl is a uterus and ovaries
>date with a man depends on the dude and what I want If i just want sex I see no reason to blow my cover If I want more I tell them No since I'm not gay take your pills shizo
Levi Brown
Oh shit my bad, ya I completely agree but the only tranny I knew was a pedo and cheated on a underaged boy with a underage girl and he would lie to both of them about his surgery. When questioned, I became a "transphob" is his words. Such a big mess..
Jacob Fisher
hows that gay if you are a woman? beside, didn't you say you had a gf?
Adrian Cooper
So you're saying you sexually assault men? If they find out that you're trans how do you think they'd feel? He's still stuck his dick inside another man. Whether it was someone with a chopped off cock or not.
Camden Fisher
>depends on the dude and what I want >If i just want sex I see no reason to blow my cover >If I want more I tell them disgusting
>No since I'm not gay So you have a gf, and call yourself a woman but you are not gay? What?
Adam Watson
I think he/she/it has confused itself
Jace Torres
These people are selfish. They only think about themselves. They can only be oppressed not the opresser.
Anthony Jackson
>hows that gay if you are a woman? because penis >beside, didn't you say you had a gf? yes one with a vagina I don't care tbqh when someone asks I tell them that I'm a lesbian when I like someone I tell them I'm heterosexual for the memes
Ayden Taylor
Inb4 sexual assault on men is a "meme"
Matthew Harris
>Oh so you confuse vagina with uterus what a lovely expert you are let me put it simply My vulva and vagina bear no practical differences to a natal one All i lacl is a uterus and ovaries
I wasn't confusing them at all, those were two separate things. And no, your vulva does bare the differences. I like the way you get stuck up on one part of the comment and get everything else associated to the same exact point. Even you are implying its unnatural by calling the normal one natural
Dominic King
Thanks for being honest.
Xavier Jones
post pics
Cooper Hughes
the more I read your posts the more I am getting a worse impression of you. You can live in your fantasy world, just don't make others fall into it without telling them.
Grayson Taylor
I have yet to find a man who complained about sex with me tbf tho I don't have sex with men anymore any actual points besides semantics of "normal" and "natural"? of what?
Guys, you all are literally arguing with a man who cut off his duck to try and pretend to be a woman. Think about that. How fucked you have to be. Do you all really think arguing with this level of mental illness is productive? They're too far gone and no amount of reason will make them think otherwise. it's wasted effort. Remember, literally removing your dick to be a women. Oy vey.
Aaron Watson
ok nvm, you don't need to tell them, its obvious you are a man
Ayden Allen
So because you don't care it doesn't count? I wonder how all the women who get raped by men would feel if their rapists said they don't care to be quite honest. How child abuse victims would feel if they were told their abusers didn't care because they only wanted gratification for themselves.
You're a sexual predator nothing more. You should genuinely kill yourself because to be that much of a narcissist that you'd go to the extremes to convince everyone around you that you're female just so you can sexually assault is abhorrent
Michael Hill
of you
Christopher Wood
Could I see your tits?
Carson Hughes
>These people are selfish >These people are selfish >These people are selfish >These people are selfish
>These people are selfish >These people are selfish >These people are selfish >These people are selfish
Duno cut penis > get a thing for replacement, that has to be called vagina, otherwise muh phobia.
Has a girl around who it fucks with, but also seduces man for fun and don't tell he "was"/"is" a dude, just to get his pleasure hits and dump them?
You are right. I dunno why I fall into these threads. It just makes me sad to see people mutilating themselves that I feel the need to ask them why
Eli Brooks
At least they can't reproduce.
Connor Bell
it's not my fault if you actively want to fuck me it takes two to tangle thanks :) already posted it >rapists and abusers care in what world do you live? >you are the same no, I simply don't mind if people want to fuck me so badly they don't even care to remember my name sure >but also seduces man for fun not while I'm in a relationship ya doofus
I see I defs wouldnt complain about that your cute
Jack Jones
Would not be upset, and would love to see more
Andrew Wood
Most abusers form relationships with their targets before attacking, Rapists pick anyone, You're a culmination of both, You rape them and if you want it to go further you come clean so it's not on your Conscience
Kys Filth
Elijah Miller
Uhm no If I want more I tell them before anything happens If we both just want quick meaningless sex there is no point in telling them
There is a point in telling them. You are genetically a male. Just because you don't see it or think its relevant doesn't make it a moot point. It is sexual assault.
Jeremiah Ramirez
thats pretty amazing you done good
Cooper Hall
>being this delusional
Nicholas Young
>You are genetically a male actually I am genetically a fuckup XXY and all >if i just greentext it makes sense
Ryder Nguyen
Does not detract from the fact you are tricking unwitting males into sleeping with you and not disclosing you are not female.
Aiden Cox
supposedly it's obvious that I am not female so how exactly do I trick them?
Luis Foster
Not OP, but genuinely curious. Why would it matter whether your one night stand was biologically female? What are the negative consequences to you?
Lincoln Morris
it wouldnt matter Its kind of hot anyway She looks good
Joseph White
Trans: “Dr. I know it sounds strange, but i feel like a wom-“ Dr.: “CHOP YOUR COCK OFF”
David Gomez
Same ones if you were to have a one night stand with a dog where it's disguised as a human and then you finding out later you just fucked a dog. Obviously this is an exaggerated unreal example but OP is nitpicky so I need to add this
Austin Bell
Why wouldn't it matter to you? You're having someone flirt with you and engaging with them in sexual activities, Unknowingly this person was born a male and you're fulfilling their fantasy of tricking men into sticking their dick into another man. Would you like to unknowingly sleep with a dude?
Why would it only tell people it wanted a relationship with? Its no different.
Matthew Foster
Hey i know it’s Cred Forums and we’re all supposed to pretend to be pieces of shit to fit in but fuck that.
You a strong and amazing person and i am so proud of you for ignoring all that shit and being so strong and confident in who you truly are. You’re fucking awesome and congratulations on living your best life. Go show the world who you are and kick some ass.
Jace Turner
More like "Ok go see a shrink and do what he tells you" Aww thanks user
Joseph Rodriguez
Good goy!
Dylan Thomas
Nice try OP, congratulating yourself on sexually assaulting men.
Levi Adams
You'll kill yourself eventually, you know that right?
Carson Wright
...
Camden Gomez
Nah Never felt less suicidal tbqh
Logan Williams
good stay that way
Connor Smith
Can we see more of your post op?
Asking for a friend
John Gonzalez
Keep lying and telling yourself that you delusional frankenstein. Nobody will ever see you as a person or individual.
Levi Allen
gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8
Austin Russell
If I had a one night stand with a woman that years down the line I learned was actually a dog, I would be more impressed than anything honestly.
>Why wouldn't it matter to you? Because I can't know someones entire history and background. What if it turned out later on your gf was born in Russia, so this was a Russian that tricked you into fucking her by living in the USA? I'm having a really hard time imagining why the gender someone was born with is that important to you. I feel like you are worried you "become" gay if you have sex with a biological man. Is this correct?
>Why would it only tell people it wanted a relationship with? I don't know OP's motivation, but I can imagine fertility being an important factor. Also, entering into a relationship means disclosing more information about your history, so it naturally follows that it becomes part of the conversation.
>Why have you not sought out real mental health treatments instead It's posts like these that always make me realize that transphobes have no idea what the process is for people to transition. I swear they think it's someone going to a pharmacy screeching "gib hormones" or something equally retarded.
Benjamin Lewis
>I swear they think it's someone going to a pharmacy screeching "gib hormones" or something equally retarded. Tbf some countries work that way Thankfully mine requires 3 different shrinks to diagnose you independently
Carson Miller
which are more annoying, transphobes or trans admirers?
Luke Wilson
>he believes the Cred Forums statistics Mate, give one google search of "why trans suicide rate" and you'll get at least several handfuls of articles with sourced studies proving your dumb suicide stat either wrong, or, with several studies citing social rejection and isolation as the main cause. Hell, the suicide rate for trannies with supportive environments is nearly the same as cis people.
Grayson Davis
>Tbf some countries work that way Gonna wanna know which countries those are for... Research purposes user. >Thankfully mine requires 3 different shrinks to diagnose you independently It's 2 here in my state. Currently at my first, though due to the cost I may have to put that on pause.
Jose Butler
>which countries Informed consent in the US iirc >2 here Doable >put on pause Sorry to hear
Mason Powell
>If i just want sex I see no reason to blow my cover Wow what the fuck? This is what's wrong with you fucking subhumans. This is why people want you dead
Brayden Russell
Transphobes, it goes back to the type of schooling I had, I can't deal with people who don't want to learn or understand something - it makes me think of this one kid who threw a fit in Algebra 2 because, "I thought I was done with math, why should I learn this?!" If by admirers you mean the type of people who say "you're so brave, etc" they're equally retarded but trying to be nice at least? If by admirers, you mean Chasers who fetishize trans people, they're only really annoying in certain context and much easier to manage an interaction with than a transphobe.
Mason White
Not OP, but I asked before (). I don't understand why the thought of sleeping with someone born male triggers so much anger. Especially in the context of them looking, feeling and being fully perceived by you as a woman.
Nolan Brown
Iirc, it has something to do with a """traditional""" view on sex as being something "sacred".
Kevin Evans
OP, before today, I didn't know mtf vaginas could come out this clean. I believed they all looked like gross flesh wounds constantly seeping blood plasma and all that, I'm sure you've seen those kinds of pics. Thank you for enlightening me.
I'm very much so a chaser for pre-op and traps, but I think I can add one more category of beautiful people to my list :)
Luke Allen
Because they aren't really female you retard. What's wrong with you people? Perception and reality are two different things. And what that thing is doing is deceptive. You tell the fucking person jesus christ. I would want to know im fucking a born female not some mentally ill man who pretends to be female only because technology artificially allows it.
Lucas Walker
Curious, what about cais xy females? I know those pictures and damn are they retarded You get what you pay and when you are old it's more likely to turn out shitty Pretty much like any surgery You wouldn't be surprised if the Brazilian concrete mix looks shit but somehow people fail to apply the same logic to srs
Logan Campbell
>Because they aren't really female you retard. I'm not debating this. My question is why you become so angry about the idea of having had sex with a biological male that you /perceived/ fully as a biological female.
>I would want to know im fucking a born female not some mentally ill man who pretends to be female only because technology artificially allows it. Yes and my question is: why? What triggers this anger in you?
Mason Diaz
you probably killed your mother with your boneheaded shenanigans. all your mom wanted was a son to love and you said nah, im not your son, lemme go cut my dick off. are you happy knowing youre the cause of your moms death? selfish millenial
Dominic Ortiz
My mother actually helped me pay for my srs and was happy to have a daughter Sorry to burst your bubble
Blake Hill
Because the person is not a biological female and should tell me that. Because now i know that person had a dick there and was a man. The thought of fucking someone who was a man and just had his dick removed and replaced disgusts me. The only reason i perceive them as female is because i don't know the truth. Its like fucking a woman who then shapeshifts into here true form as a man. Do you not see a problem here? I like my women natural.
Charles Torres
Trannies here gg/3MC5H4
Ryder Adams
So it's to do with it being "unnatural"? You are disgusted by the idea that the person you are having sex with has a male genome, even though you have no way of perceiving or interacting with said genome. I'm curious what about this is disgusting to you, is it the "unnaturalness"? And if so, could you explain what you mean by that.
Camden Moore
what's that?
Jeremiah Reyes
>what about cais xy females i have roughly the same opinion since they're genetically male if i understand correctly it essentially the fact that the person was male that disgusts me. the person was a male up till transition. i dont see that person as actually female. for the entirety of history youre either male or female(excluding genetic defects). now you have the technology to pretend that your female by removing sex organs and whatnot, but you werent born one thats why its unatural.
Jaxon Jackson
So is a cais XY female raping you if she herself doesn't know about her condition?
Bentley Morgan
it is an illness and transition is the best known treatment at the momen
>47% suicide rate >treatment some fix why dont you guys just buy a rope instead
Camden Cruz
>47% attempted suicide rate >lower after treatment seemingly the treatment works better than other alternatives if it actively reduces the attempts of suicides
Christopher King
or to give you a better example the average suicide rate is 11 per 100.000 yet cancer patients have a suicide rate of 28 per 100.000 by your logic chemo as a treatment obviously doesn't work because they just end up killing themselves
Landon Rogers
it probably wasnt willing and did it just to quell your constant insistance that youre a "girl" it killed your mother every step of the way but she kept putting on a happy face not for you but to fool everyone else that she was okay with this
Landon Edwards
Obviously you have no clue about my mother I hope your mother lives a long and happy life she's proud of you after all, r-right?
Jason Powell
lol
Brayden Perez
You seem pretty happy with your life right now which is cool. If only half of trannies kill themselves well you have a 50/50 chance which is better than cancer. How do you think this will play out in the future, when you get old and stop getting attention from people that want something different. When you realize you didnt have kids and are alone in your 50's and everyone thinks your some weirdo with no dick. Dont get me wrong i wish you the best future but id start thinking of a longterm plan fro happiness. Maybe you have one and thats all cool.
Stop comparing chemo suicides to the suicides of people who WILLINGLY mutilate themselves and kill themselves after you stupid mentally ill 1% of the population doublenigger
Thomas Lee
of course not. we both dont know.
Ryan Baker
Join the 40%, faggot
Logan Martinez
Stop comparing trans suicides to the suicides of people who WILLINGLY poison themselves after you stupid cellular mutation nigger
sorry reality doesn't care about your delusions maybe do what you suggest so freely, study and learn, maybe then you can form an argument that holds up so at that point you don't care how would you feel if she told you later after finding out and how would you distinguish this from her lying and only telling you later?
Daniel Harris
spread?
Joshua Butler
i know shed rather die than deal with an abomination of an offspring. I doubt my moms proud of me. she definitely more proud of my sister but at least im not some mentally defected idiot that thinks mutilation of their genitals is the answer to all their problems.
Ian Moore
see >answer to all their problems. uhm I never thought that it was only an answer to my dysphoria problems nothing more nothing less
whoever thinks srs will magically fix all your issues is retarded and shouldn't get the surgery
Brayden Wilson
no, you thought it would be all your problems. you thought by fixing your dysphoria you wouldnt feel so bummed out all the time, toud be more chipper, people would accept you more, that youd have more friends, that your life would be better. the only thing you did was solidify the fact that youre a fuckin freak.
Aaron Foster
Cancer doesn't just affect cigarette smokers you stupid doublenigger. Not surprising considering you'd need to be thick as a brick to pay someone to cut your junk off.
Noah Williams
she lies if she knew about it all along and fucks me without telling me. if she only learnt later on and tells me then thats no ones fault really. i'd still be upset either way but anger is only directed for the former.
Christopher Bell
No >wouldn't feel so bummed out all the time I wonder if dysphoria was to blame >toud be more chipper what? >people would accept you more lol are you retarded? >that youd have more friends no, I did however make more friends but that's no thanks to srs or hrt >that your life would be better. well, yes, your life is better if you aren't anchored down by helth issues ya dingus lol I'll never understand your logic but you do you >twice as likely to commit suicide compared to normies >"i-it's not the same you meanie because both are health issues" cute user
Mason Wood
can you tell me why my logic is so hard to understand then?
Brody Robinson
you know how in movies theres the caricature presentation of a dude in drag? thats how most people see you, regardless of how well you pass. the ones praising you are just as fucked up mentally as you are. dont think just because youre in an echo chamber that everything is roses.
Luke Jenkins
dont you have to go dilate or something? Make sure you light some incense first, ymor youll fill your house with the stench of shit
Jace Myers
sure because I don't get mad over fucking someone who I preceived as a girl, acted like a girl,etc. just because at one point they weren't a girl.
Like would you get mad if someone didn't tell you they weren't mutilated as a baby? like "how dare you not tell me you had foreskin" >thats how most people see you and i'm thankful for it makes passing much easier No, don't have to dilate anymore and it smells like every other vag but thanks for the concearn :)
Joshua Watson
at least its reassuring to know most arent as mentally deluded as them, dont know how long that will last however
Levi Bailey
>concern your kind are the least of my concerns.
William Mitchell
theyll all end up swinging from the rafters eventually
Ryder Clark
and yet you've read enough Cred Forumsack tier bs and think you know how a vagina works cute
Isaiah Cook
Umm, you are aware of the fact that so far the OP gives off an air of a sane, content person, and that the part of a "mentally fucked up" is played by posts similar to yours, right?
Matthew Martin
>Like would you get mad if someone didn't tell you they weren't mutilated as a baby? like "how dare you not tell me you had foreskin" this is retard logic and i hope you know it
the fact of the matter is the person is not actually a girl and was never a girl. if i am a straight male of course i'll get fucking mad you dunce.
Owen Ortiz
no sane content person would mutilate their bodies just because they dont want to accept the fact that their male or female
Logan Bennett
ive never set foot in Cred Forums but nice try. i dont need them to tell me how fucking retarded you are. also, i should know a vagina works considering i helped create two kids. your kind are the ones that dont understand female anatomy.
Logan Ross
I don't understand why but you do you fren a sane content person would seek treatment for an affliction the fact that you call part of the treatment "mutilation" changes nothing about it
Sebastian Diaz
> sane, content and yet they had to mutilate their body to be content. that doesnt sound very sane to me
Tyler Sanders
Lol. >best known treatment Then why do the suicide rates remain comparable? >passes just as well Fucking hell, not a chance in hell your disgusting man pussy passes for a pussy. I have yet to see a single picture of a post op bussy that looks anything remotely like a vagina, they’re fucking freaky. Fuck off tranman.
Luis Mitchell
OP can't inb4
Levi Hall
more like a sane or content person would accept the reality that they're male or female.
Colton Fisher
Your shit is bleeding in this very photo, but it’s “not a wound” right? >inb4 “that’s bassically a period transphobe”
Ryder Peterson
the only two pictures provided. obviously HE doesnt wanna show a full on view cuz its a fuckin mess down there
Cool I've eaten my fair share of pussies so I'm fairly certain about the differences between mine and them of my partners and to give you a hint, the difference worth noting is that mine is a bit smoother on the inside and doesn't bleed >Then why do the suicide rates remain comparable? it is lower compared to people without treatment why does the rate of suicides by cancer patients remain 100% higher than that of normal people if they get treatment hint: the issues caused by the illness aren't magically resolved because you fixed the illness >vag Look through the thread love if you want to see my vag where is it bleeding? really makes ya think
Justin Hernandez
>I don't understand why cause youre retarded. simple. anyone who does that to themselves can be inferred to as such its not rocket science
Logan Hill
>it passes perfectly fine
The user of the term "passes" is an implicit acknowledgement that you know you're not a real woman, and you're just trying your best to fake it. You may "pass" for a real woman, but at your core, you know you'll never be one. You know you're just pretending, and hoping that everyone else pretends with you. A surgically crafted structure that's cosmetically similar to a vagina isn't the same as an actual vagina.
Gavin Sullivan
you make it seem like a bleeding vagina ever stopped me from doing anything. you dont know anything if you think that just having an opening makes you female. where your uterus? your ovaries, fallopian tubes, cervix? nice try you brain dead faggot
Mason Campbell
>bleeding vagina ever stopped me from doing anything. mein neger >rest and how exactly are ovaries, a uterus and so on relevant to me given that I am happy to not have periods and don't want children? like if you want children sure go for a cis women but as a lesbian I am quite happy I don't have to worry about bloody sex more than once per month
Carter Adams
full nude shot?
Christian Smith
lol check out this reject pretending it can ever be happy
Nathan Cox
don't have one at hand atm sorry fren sorry for being happy
cis people can go their whole lives not having kids WITHOUT having to mutilate themselves.
William Martinez
lol that shoulder width
Lucas Peterson
It is your white privilege that you have embraced that has allowed you to mutilate your penis and get away with passing as a female, and it is your mental illness that has you living contently as a female with a mutilated penis knowing full well that what makes a woman a woman is two x chromosomes and not a genital.
David Thomas
yeah and?
Julian Clark
no mutilation needed is what. youre trying to justify your decisions and im pointing out the flawed argument
>that what makes a woman a woman is two x chromosomes guess I'm a real woman then by your standards neat yeah like em tbqh your entire argument is based on it being a mutilation rather than a needed part of treatment so maybe you should take your concearns to an actual doctor rather than me because by your logic I am a victim of mutilation due to what doctors and psychiatrists told me >running gag between me and my gf is that her homophobic dad should be fine with me since it's basically heterosexual be original
Christopher King
>I am a victim of mutilation due to what doctors and psychiatrists told me yes. but they say those things because they have too unfortunately
Wyatt Gutierrez
you cant be a victim if you gave your consent. youre just easily manipulated.
Jaxon Edwards
Cool don't forget to take your shizo medication otherwise (((they))) will use their sattelite against you again so by asking 3 different psychiatrists for independent diagnoses I was easily manipulated?
Ryder Lewis
yes
Joshua Myers
they obviously saw a sucker and told you what you wanted to hear.
Brandon Williams
>imagine cutting your dick off because you want to be female
Alexander Thompson
doesn't sound one bit laughable surely you are a very competent doctor with a bunch of degrees and not just some armchair expert
Landon Barnes
im sure they felt sorry for you deep down
Connor Reed
>unchangeable male hands
Leo Miller
i wonder how people in the past with your mental issue had to cope? maybe they just accepted the reality.
Connor Cook
fuck i wish i had an armchair. all i got is some lousy chair i stole from work. i dont need to be a phd holder to know that docs and psychs will say whatever they need to say to make a quick buck, especially from gullible faggots like you.
Christopher Campbell
Suicide, crossdressing and lots of coping I like my hands tbqh Quite helpful for my work tbqh
Tyler Brooks
also good for tying a noose, tbqh
Gabriel Roberts
lol imagine that you have to cope with the fact that you were born male, it sounds ridiculous
Henry Davis
I suppose, do you need one?
Luke Thompson
I love how b will salivate for hours over girlcock but the second someone posts anything remotely related to post-surgery they're up in arms having a spazz attack.
No question for you OP, just thought I'd stop in and say I hope your day is going well!
why do you post here? what do you hope to accomplish? getting shit on by cishets gets old after awhile
Owen Phillips
if i cut my dick off and stitch a vagina in its place am i a woman?
Tyler Turner
>why do you post here? Bored >what do you hope to accomplish? To give people a more nuanced view of srs mostly
Brayden Torres
good luck providing any nuance on this site, the character limit encourages meme responses and discourages nuance i might have missed it if you mentioned, but which surgical method? penile inversion? (if so, im surprised it self-lubricates) im about to enter month 3 of hrt woohoo
Julian Sanchez
suporns technique (chonburi flap or whatever he calls it now)
Adam Ramirez
You look good enough to body down hardcore. Wish I could be with someone like you.
Dylan Flores
Kill yourselves.
Kayden Allen
are you telling me ill have to wait 14 years for trump to do something about the fucking queens .............................
how incapable are you of breeding, beyond just the fornication?
Wyatt Wood
Shhhhhh let it play pretend
Matthew Rivera
Damn.. you’re lesbian huh? That’s a shame. But I am glad that you’re happy though. Ignore the triggered users.
Leo Baker
Any hole is a goal
Leo Russell
I've seen vagina that ain't a vagina the lips and labia give it away
Isaac White
Y'know after reading this thread OP and seeing you say you'd fuck a guy and not tell him shit I see why people hate you fucks so much thats disgusting, if this is my reaction knowing what you are the guy has a right to know or maybe you just know he wont fuck you otherwise you cunt
Christopher Stewart
If you mean how likely I am to produce offspring not very likely If you mean how my sexlife was pre and post transition pretty good lol aww sorry fren ^^ >the labia and labia give it away cool cry me a river trip haver
Dominic Morris
How long is it since your srs?
Christian King
Why are you so desperate posting something like this on Cred Forums? If your life is perfect, then post anywhere else.
About your SRS. Tell me, can you change the chromosones you inherently have, or if my science is off, at least, can what has been given to you, i.e (XX or XY or whatever fuckup you have), can those change? If they can't, then you can't change your gender.
At least accept that, people would respect you way more.
And no, we don't at all get triggered about the fact that you call yourself female, or something silly like that. Most of us care about you guys, and we don't want to see others mutilate themselves. Some of us are religious, some just want to help you. There are, of course, also trolls, but nobody cares about them.
Live your life, but don't lie to yourself or anyone else. That's pathetic.
>cuts own dick off >is a "lesbian" I'm so confused.
Gabriel Garcia
5 years >posts on Cred Forums so you must be desperate try bored >If they can't, then you can't change your gender. you can't change your sex, but your gender (presentation) damn straight you can >Most of us care about you guys, and we don't want to see others mutilate themselves. the first step would be to accept that it's a needed treatment rather than a "mutilation" if you have a better treatment feel free to suggest it, I'm sure plenty of trannies would be thankful that they don't have to blow money on surgeries
call me heterosexual man for all I care
Jose Baker
The terms of sex / gender is merely confusion. The root cause is simply that there's males, and females. Because this world wants to confuse others, doesn't mean I will.
You can't change your sex, but you can change your outerly expression. Sure. Then... don't pretend you're a female, simply. Just because you clothe as one doesn't mean you are.
Also, bored is a lie. You just want attention :p.
Justin Scott
>doesn't make you one well what do you suggest I call myself because whenever I call myself male people look at me like I'm retarded while they refer to me as female 24/7 >just want attention (you)s are delicious ^^
Ayden Powell
>cites suicide rate >continues to bully trans I wonder why that rate is so high
Robert Walker
You should only call yourself what you really are, a male. Everything else is a lie. You can't physically fix yourself now. So you're fucked. What you can do is (I R L) be around people that don't feed delusions. However, you fucked your self up physically. That can never change. And I am sorry to see that on you.
I wish you luck in life. :).
Luis Gonzalez
When do the suicidal thoughts come in?
Jose Parker
Can you explain to me why such an inconsequential problem as not liking that you were born male would require treatment? Why should such a problem even be given the time of day?
Carter Allen
greentext your life. age, when did you realize, how did you tackle this etc.
heil hitler dubs checked.
Lucas Thompson
And that's a good thing.
Isaiah Garcia
>inconsequential I mean, would you say anorexia is inconsequential? It's a matter of not being able to comfortably interact with society, which is in itself debilitating due to social interaction being important for the systems in place and for us as a species. Neither are inconsequential.
Isaiah Cox
Waste of time user these people practically live and surround themselves with delusions. Whether its people or their own thoughts it how they cope.
Lucas Myers
You're the only SJW in this whole thread, fagg.
Christopher Clark
>transition >treatment
>axe wound >passes
God damn your mental deficencies go far beyond dysmorphia clearly
Easton Jenkins
>Both of these people probably believe in the concept of "Alpha Males"
Nathaniel Morales
>This person probably believes in the concept of changing your gender
Wait, youre ok with ppl calling you a "tranny"???? Thats new lol
Dylan Jenkins
See this is what I dont understand how can you compare anorexia to simply not liking the fact that you are a man? I dont think I can ever get it. You are a man genetically and physically that's it, why is that so hard to accept? Why do you need to make such a simple fact into this overblown problem? Why was so hard to accept that you are a man with all the evidence in front of you?
Michael James
haven't been around in a while because, from what we currently know, it manifests in severe mental problems which negatively impact your everyday life and make you not functioning in a way usable for society >call yourself male I would but people think I'm mentally deficient or FTM whenever I say that >be 8 >always feel off >not sure why >be 11 >puberty starts >confused cause voice gets deeper >other changes make me mentally more messed up >confused >scared >no clue what is wrong with me >therapy >15ish >find out about trannies >weird.avi >18 >still feeling off >pray to god that I am not a tranny >therapist >hope he diagnoses something else >youTrans.png >shit >go to two more people for diagnose >also "youTrans.png" >fml >transition >happy with my body for the first time in my life >wtf >research the best srs surgeon >convince my family with a ton of research, my diagnoses and some other stuff to support srs >get srs shortly before i turn 20 >finally feel complete >actually manage to get my life on a funcioning trejectory they can call me whatever they want tbqh at the end of the day I'm happy with my body so who cares
Carson Hall
OP do you have Klinefelter Syndrome?
David Nelson
God bless you for not being offended like other sensitive tranny pussies that probably use tumblr
Jonathan Morales
supposedly yes but frankly I never noticed any meaningful differences and would have never noticed it if I wasn't tested
Christopher Turner
If they're alpha and beta male wolves why cant their be the same in human society? The alpha wolf leads the pack, there are examples of this throughout society today
Luke Myers
I am infamous in the local lgbt scene for openly supporting trump and regularly pissing off "nonbinary" retards
Ryan Torres
Post feet pics preferably soles.
Juan Perry
Lol have you never been to sex ed growing up? The fuck is there to be confused about?
Carter Wright
Wouldn't be surprised if you hadn't have noticed it considering it's symptoms can easily have been misplaced as just "puberty works in weird ways".
Daniel Ramirez
Real question: why does the concept of "nonbinary" exist?? Like, you cant be nothing! Or youre a woman, or youre a man! Ffs
Jeremiah Watson
Not the original person, but there are only xx or xy chromosomes normally, not xxy unless you have Klinefelter Syndrome, a genetic disorder. Tri-Chromosomes are a genetic defect and doesn't make you a tranny. I don't have any problem with you choosing to live this way, but don't bring hard science into it if you don't want to debate it on the internet.
>transition is the best known treatment at the momen the suicide rates tend to disagree with you
Thomas Brown
thanks for the insight. i must say, you seem like the most grounded and rational tranny i've ever encountered. happy to hear you're coming along. another question: do you know if you have a chromosomal aberration?
whoa, you are confusing a whole lotta things here, bud. also: learn to properly read things you reply to.
Oliver Lopez
>not understanding the fact you can be born either a man or woman can lead to severe mental problems Are trannies all brainlets? How does one simple fact escalate that much?
Juan Murphy
Let me ask you something, how long ago did you get your "treatment"?
Joseph Kelly
your inability to spell correctly underscores your meager intellect and nicely reflects your flawed arguments. go play rocket league or something.
Juan Harris
Lmao ok, whats wrong with rocket league tho
Josiah Nelson
what do you mean? yeah tbqh no clue every single one i've met so far fell into one of two cats >FtMs coping that they aren't really trans >attention whores my dude I am well aware that I have a disorder >the suicide rates tend to disagree with you actually the suicide rates agree with my point and disagree with yours hence the decline in suicide attempts post hrt and srs you're welcome >do you know if you have a chromosomal aberration? XXY but as stated before if I wasn't tested I'd have never suspected it thanks ^^ brain development is complex and can be influenced by sporradic hormonal imbalances causing your brain to develop different from what your chromosomes define thus causing a conflict between brain and body at least according to the current state of research hrt, 6 years ago srs, 5 years ago
Cooper Evans
You're still riding the high of your surgery give it time, i imagine you got the treatment less than 10 years ago, eventually the day will come where you realize what a mistake it was, but at that point there's no turning back. I'm sure you will look at my post and think "lol no i'm so happy, i'll never regret this, never never never" while smiling smugly to yourself and felling "proud" but when the high wares off, when you're old and childless, unable to bear or impregnate, unable to "pass" looking at yourself in the mirror wondering why you made such a stupid choice, suicide will likely cross your mind as it has many, maybe you'll take the plunge maybe you won't, but you will live the rest of your life in regret, reply with what ever you want, but remember how you feel now so when you come to your senses you realize just how insane it was
Brayden Cook
>10 years Let me guess in 5 years you'll tell me "wait till you're 15 years post op"?
Cooper Collins
How old were you when you knew?
Jason Hill
See Started out as feeling off when I was 8ish
Josiah Morgan
>brain development is complex and can be influenced by sporradic hormonal imbalances causing your brain to develop different from what your chromosomes define thus causing a conflict between brain and body I can see that confusing you as a kid but as you grow up it's not that hard to open a bio book to understand what you really are.